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What was NY to do before Rudy?

Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:11 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC/NJ's Matthew Berger and NBC's Lauren Appelbaum
Giuliani
introduced his third ad for the New Hampshire market in a week Wednesday. The new 30-second spot focuses on New York City's transformation from before Giuliani's mayoral stint to after, and uses George Will's proclamation that Giuliani led a successful conservative government. 

During the first part of the ad -- "The world's 17th largest economy. Swimming in red ink. Record crime. Runaway taxes. A million on welfare. That was New York" -- pictures of despair in New York City are shown in rapid fire succession. The announcer then says "Until Rudy," and the mood changes -- with cheerful music and pictures more pleasing to the eye.

The terminology in the ad, entitled "Challenges," is telling: "In America's most liberal city, Rudy delivered. And he can do it again, in a place called Washington, D.C." It is almost mocking the politics of the city Giuliani ran for eight years, but could be very well-received among the Yankees-haters in the Boston market.

What the ad doesn't do is implicitly mention 9/11. While New York imagery is everywhere, this ad doesn't feature Giuliani speaking, or talking about being "tested" or dealing with crises. Most voters will equate those buzzwords with the terrorist attacks, even as Giuliani talks about cutting crime and welfare rolls.

Here's the script:
CHALLENGES (TV: 30)
ANNCR: "The world's 17th largest economy. Swimming in red ink. Record crime. Runaway taxes. A million on welfare. That was New York. Until Rudy. He cut taxes 9 billion. Welfare 60 percent. Crime in half. The most successful conservative turnaround in 50 years. In America's most liberal city, Rudy delivered. And he can do it again, in a place called Washington, D.C."

GIULIANI: "I'm Rudy Giuliani, and I approved this message."

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Rudy 9/11 and mayor. Wow !  What a resume. I'am impressed.
Meanwhile, Romney is building up his lead in the race as a new South Carolina poll has him tied for first; but his lead is also very fragile as it all depends on Iowa, and the latest Washington Post poll out this morning has Huckabee gaining on Romney rapidly. Link to both polls: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2007/11/primary-polls-romney-moves-into-south.html
Rudy the revisionist!  While it is true that in the years preceding Rudy's mayoralship...NYC had seen better days.  BUT when he took his oath of office in 1993, crime was already starting to head down [and continued much further thanks to Bill Clinton's COPS law], the national economy was already on the up-take having suffered Bush I's recession,  NYC cleaned itself up with the help of the Disney-ification of Times Square, and the last budget from the outgoing Dinkins administration gave Rudy a surplus for his first year.  Fast forward 8 years, and Rudy leaves the city with a defecit; MTA subway fares doubled; people hate Rudy's hard-handed style of governing; Rudy's fix's included arresting jay-walkers, he so called clean the streets by shipping the homeless to other cities or arresting them based on an arcane very old law that made it a crime to be homeless, he ignited racial unrest when he stood by white cops that killed or mamed innocent black men even when it was obvious there was wrongdoing [Abner Louima!], he incredulously placed the city's office of emergency management in 7 World Trade Center even though the WTC was already bombed in 1993 because he owed someone a political favor, he knew about the radio communication problems between NYPD and FDNY but ignored it [had he not done so there would be much less dead first responders on 9-11], its much easier to keep taxes down or not raise taxes in NYC because of the huge business tax base [so his tax credentials are disingenuous] and he's just plain ugly!
After you see the picture in drag of rudy I think he would make a great first lady president,so I guess its fair to say our first female president will come from NY
Rudy built New York City himself.  He bought it from the Dutch and built all the skyscrapers by hand while with a bum leg.
WHAT WAS NY TO DO BEFORE RUDY? Be like New Orleans, or any other ruined city where democrats have been in power too long? Not that I'm a Rudy fan, but I'd "settle" for him over any democrat which is a sad place to be.
OMG!  How Rudy saved NY?  You gotta love the American propaganda machine.  Ask the fire fighters what they think of Rudy.   Personally I think he personifies sleezy politics.  We need truth in politics and our press and LIBERTY in our streets.  Go Ron Paul!!!!!!!
Yeah Dave, Democrats steered a hurricane toward New Orleans just so they could frame Republicans for refusing to make repairs.  Crime went down while Rudy was Mayor of NYC, but not as much as in the company at large.  So by extension of the logic in the ad does that mean Rudy gets blamed for being a drag on the decline in crime rates?
Has our country really become this dumb?  Supposedly, we are tired of crooked politics and the GWB Club cronyism.  And this joke is the party frontrunner.  Can't we just elect him president of 9-11 instead?  
They named an airport after the guy,the former mayor and another former mayor Ed Koch well liked by republicans .Americas problem is your to busy rushing into tommorow that you never remember yesterday,I mean you celebrate thanksgiving the day after halloween and and now you buy and soon open Christmas presents in November SLOW DOWN LOOK AT THE PAST LEARN FROM IT .
Dave - sorry you have set your standards so low.  After living in a state that had Don Sundquist (you know - george called him "sunny"), republican governor I would have thought you would understand how low republican standards are these days.  I remember Don, so I would never, ever vote for a republican.  Maybe you should do some reading up on him to help get you back on track?
guiliani.  is amobsterand a failed human being.are we to endure joe mCcarthy once more ? a man reveals much of his characterby humility,loyalty,and honestygive us guiliani and you give us george bush only worse.
"Swimming in red ink" should be the mantra of the Republican Party.  Under GW Bush and the Republicans, that's exactly where the U.S. is today.  They were handed a surplus and poof!  Talk about a government where REPUBLICANS have been in power too long!  This crowd is not only corrupt but they've drained the Treasury and continue to do so through their unquestioning support of Bush's wars-without-end. Their idea of fiscal responsibility is demanding repayment of signing bonuses given to veterans because those same veterans were  wounded and couldn't complete their tours of duty. What a disgusting, shameless crowd.
People dont settle for want a be bully we had that for 8 yrs rudy's is just a touch smarter better lier than bush

The full read

I find it hard to understand why the american voters are so easy to fool. Its my opinion the top tier candidates in both partys souldnt be there.

On the republican side with  Giuliani and Romney,. America better watch there [six] with these two guys.
Giuliani:  Is nobody without 9/11 he stereotypes everything that comes out of his mouth. Giuliani is a fixed idea or iamge of himself.
Romney:  is a micro manager. just a better looking Bush
Thompson: A good VP.
Huckabee: just another Carter

On the democrats side with Hillary and Obama,. We are being flank by all the democrats on this health care issue. Blind side with oversimplification.
Hillary:  I have my doubts we already have the first women speaker of the house in history. Her first 100 hours turn out to be a one way ticket to a nothing show.          
Obama:  This guys is real scary talk about FAUTY LOGIC this man is a Harvard gratuate with a law degree I wouldnt let this guy handle a parking ticket for me.
Edwards:  All I see is Dan Quayle just go away to Mr Edwards.
Biden:  Is the best choice for a  the democrats. At lease he understands policy.
   
I don't think the American people or the media  fully understand this country is at war. This war is as real as real can get. A war started by a sitting United States President. In 2006 the Democrats took claim there party will end the war. The debate moderated by Tim Russert asked the question " Will you have the troops out by 2013?". Hillary, Obama and Edwards replied with the answer "NO". This reponse will continue the  body bags coming home intill 2013 and beyond. This war is a great big castle with four towers at each corner tower 1 is Iran  2 is Syria  3 is Pakistan  4 is Jordan and Saudi Arabia. The strategy was to put our military right smack in the middle of two court yards without secure borders the same dumb move has done in Vietnam. I guess we just have to face the fact america cant secure borders.    

Its been said about President Truman.
"As President, Truman made some of the most crucial decisiions in history".

The next Commander - in - Chief  takes office on January 20th, 2009. He/ she will have to handle this Middle East nightmare that President Bush has initally started. The new President will have to find a new edge to Foreign Policy. The right touch of Dipolmacy will be key.

Senator John McCain is the only candidate on record that can bring this nation back to the center .He is the only one that can strategically top Mr. Truman's decision-making. He is the only candidate to resolve and unite this nation without a big boom.
Mark Bradley elgin il
Man, PT Barnum said it all,  " There's a sucker born every minute"... I don't feel like going throuth that litany of Giuliani's lies concerning the 9-11  debacle. He has lied so much about the time he says he spent there.. There is a web started up by the Fire Chief of that City who was there through it all. I don't know what George Will thinks about it all, but go there if you want the straight scoop... Check his history as Prosecutor and the people he tried to railroad to make a name for himself.  Check the people he dragged off the stock market floor that day, and played Gestapo with them, flak jackets and all, only to have the cases dropped for lack of evidence. I think all the candidates are in for a surprise this time... I think we have a more informed electorate who refuses to vote the party line. We voted for Bush because we thought that Gore would be the worst choice, not because we wanted Bush... Who knows how Gore would have been.  After the latest news of how Bush etal with Rove, sent his press secretary out to tell all those lies, I cannot understand why there isn't a groundswell for his impeachment... The Dems don't want that of course , because it plays into their whipping bloc leading up to the election.... Now we find Oprah cozying up to Obama.  Now you know she would have been backing Clinton if Obama wasn't Black, regarless of what she may say... So, I'm afraid we are in for one terrible year next year, and for 4 more afterwards, no matter who gets in.
Rudy knew the answer was, 'Until Clinton'. But you know them Republicans. He flip-flopped(Bill didn't need it as much as he did), and stuck his own name in there.
Rudy911 the red nosed republican...the wife cheating, friend picking liar from NYC...next
Senator John McCain is the only candidate on record that can bring this nation back to the center .He is the only one that can strategically top Mr. Truman's decision-making. He is the only candidate to resolve and unite this nation without a big boom.
Mark Bradley elgin il
mark elgin il (Sent Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:26 PM)
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Are you kidding? This, about the same guy who sange "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran."  He's already thinking of different ways he can hit the nuke button the second he's sworn in if elected.  In fact, he'll probabl have someone install a remote nuke button at the inaugural podium and press it as soon as the Chief Justice finishes the oath!
The main fact is no matter how good a rudy talks or obama talks its all echo. the part most people forget is that talk get blown away once there in office its called gottha. this echo needs the senate and congress to approve this echo for four years. America needs to wake up and vote for the person that doesnt have a echo who really cares about this country. This man stuck to his guns on the war the surge is working we will win. he already knows how to handle iran without another war

John McCain is the answer for this country on jan.20th 2009
Rudy, the empty headed Bush III; It is a mystery to me what the media see in this stupid moron...he thinks that by using scare tactics and sacrificing more lives and trillions of dollars for Israel he can easily be elected as president. Think again!! America is changing..we want CHANGE....no more zionists dragging America down the drain...
but I'd "settle" for him over any democrat which is a sad place to be.

Dave, Tn

Dave,

It's because you don't know "Rudy" you know the perception, and you don't know Joe Biden. It was the Biden crime bill, which later became known as the Clinton crime bill, but it was Joe's legislation all along. Joe Biden's more concerned with getting things accomplished that getting the credit. The crime bill provided federal funding for 100,000 cops nation wide, NYC received 7,000 new cops paid for with federal funds. And guess what more cops on the street and crime went down, just like Joe said it would.

While Rudy put the emergency command center in the WTC, despite it being attacked in 1993, and failed to  get working radios for the fire fighters resulting in firefighters dying, because they didn't get the message to abort the rescue attempts and get out of the building immediately.

Senator Biden is the only one running for President in either party, who was warning that our country was ignoring the greatest threat to our nations security, which he (and the Joint Chiefs) said was likely to come in the hull of a ship into our harbor (because we didn't and still don't have adequate port security), the belly of  a plane, or in a vial in a backpack in a major US city. Senator Biden didn't just warn against this threat on 9/10/01 before the National Press Club in DC, but he had been sounding this warning publicly on the floor of the Senate and in public speeches since 1999!
The same Rudy who wanted to ignore the City charter barring him from a third term as mayor because of 9/11.
Be careful, as president, Rudy would do every thing in his power to circumvent the Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, because of 9/11.
Rudy is no hero of 9/11, just ask the NYFD what they think of him.  He knew of the terrible communication equipment those firefighters had when they went to the WTC.  He is another diaster waiting to happen if he should get the GOP nomination and then win the election.
Ron Paul '08
These comments show once again that Democrats are complete morons.
As a long time resident of NYC and the mother of two FDNY members who were actually at ground zero (unlike  King Rudi) a few facts that King Rudi conveniently forgets.  
Fact 1)  A booming Wall street contributed to NYC's coffers. It had nothing to do with Rudi
Fact 2) Disneyfication of Times Square helped revitalize the area combined with increased tourist travel.  It had nothing to do with Rudi
Fact 3)  This city has a large government that was shamelessly abused by Rudi and stuck out his mayorship because of dedication to the people of NY  not out of any loyalty to the mayor.
Fact 4)  Rudi attempted a power grab after 9/11 to extend his term (do you really want this for the US?)
Fact 5)  Rudi and his cohorts did a wonderful job of decimating NYC's dwindling middle class by encouraging developers to develop housing for the mega-rich and taking the attitude of "screw the middle class"  (read fire fighters, cops, teachers).
Fact 6)  As Assistant federal attorney--he LOST most of his cases because of his arrogance and lack of knowledge about the law--the cases were over turned on appeal based on legal mistakes made by him and his office.
Believe me and most of the people of the city are glad to be rid of him and don't want him back
I want to remind everyone who doesn't live in NYC that Rudy's approval ratimg in NY on 9/10 was 32% (kinda like Bush's now).  The reduction of crime he's so proud of touting was due in most part to the extra police Bill Clinton helped put on our streets and Police Commissioner Bratton’s (NOT KERIK) use of them.  My property taxes went up every year of his administration, but I’ve received a rebate every year since Bloomberg took over.  The NYC Bd of Ed was in a shambles and despite pleadings from parents & city leaders, was totally ignored by Rudy for his entire 8 years.  Standards, scores, facilities and teachers have increased every year since Mike Bloomberg took office and my children are doing better the last 6 years than the previous two at private schools.
Think carefully America before you anoint St. Rudy and you should really listen closer to those of use who lived with him for 8 years and were not sorry to see him go.
For the real Rudy - place your comments here at http://rudyg.org Let everone know, not just the few.
Too bad they don't teach students how to use Google in journalism school. Some people who've studied the crime statistics and history of New York think that Rudy's is claiming credit that he doesn't deserve:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2007/11/16/giuliani_kerik/index.html?source=rss&aim=/opinion/conason

http://www.jamaicans.com/articles/primecomments/giulianijamaican.shtml

If it's up to the news media, we're going to get stuck with another 4 years of incompetence and malfeasance when this nasty little man takes over from the nasty little man currently in the Oval Office when he's not out clearing brush in Crawford.

What is even more classically comical is that Americans are so mired in "the process" that they fail to see that the whole election process is a farce.  America's whole mantra is supposed to be a nation for the people governed by the people.  Who are these people running? They most certainly are not like me or any of the people I work or live with.  There was a Russian fellow on "Real Time with Bill Maher" a couple of weeks ago, running for the Russian presidency.  Now he is a fellow that would get my vote.  
mark, interesting that you lump all women together.

Do you assume all the men will be like bush?
Second tier candidates are better than first tier, but they are never allowed to speak in the debates, on either Rep or Dem side.  Huckabee is just another Clinton only Rep, and not as intelligent.  Installed multi million computers two times in capital, couldn't fix, ran around the country and to China rather than running his own state.  Then they had the low class gall to ask good folks in Ark to give them a wedding shower when he left office to help furnish their new home.  Mrs. H registered at Dillards and other places.   This was after they have been married 35 years!! They also took furniture from governor's mansion, said it was a personal gift from 'friends'.  Sound familiar??He talks the talk, but does not walk the walk, and IF he was called to preach, then he needs to go back to that.  We desperately need someone who will bring honor,honesty, and integrity to the White House. And restore our good standing with our previous allies, with whom the present administration has trashed.  As for Rudy, he is New York, that's all. He went toMexico City to help fix their crime problem,lasted about two months.  And we expect these people to be the leader of the free world??  Romney is another "slick Willie", can't wait to get his hands on everything in Wash to veto, he said.  None of them are credible, and certainly not believable.Same for the Dems.  Have ANY of them served in m/s???Duncan Hunter and McCain, who else?  Rudy got deferred as a law student.
Crucial point in our history, and pitiful bunch to choose from.
Listen to Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, Biden, and Bill Richardson,  if anyone will let them speak, they sound honest,and credible, but money and the huge political machines (Clinton for the Dems/Rove for the Rep) destroys reputations and buys the office as we all know.  Does anyone really think that the  mideast leaders would listen to Hillary??  John McCain we know is good, but the younger generation think he is too old.
I vote for no one who does not send his own children to war.
Union Baby- so right!DAVE IS TOO MUCH OF A LOYAL KOOL-AID DRINKER. He conviently ignores recessions under Republican administrations, deficits, weakening dollar, record poverty levels, record foreclosures, massive debt to The Chinese etc. Theirfore, all Republican enablers, like yourself and twin Jerry can continue to bash liberal social programs;however; will be the first to cash in on Social sercurity and Medicare with no questions asked. Can you say two face!
"In America's most liberal city, Rudy delivered."
Most liberal city? Let's not exaggerate.
People like "Dave, Tn" that thinks like this:
"...Be like New Orleans, or any other ruined city where democrats have been in power too long? Not that I'm a Rudy fan, but I'd "settle" for him over any democrat which is a sad place to be..."
are the one responsible for the economical and political crisis the country is facing today and for the inmediate future.
Is incredible that any one can today believe in the REPUBLICANS, and Giulani is one of the worse being a flip-floper, after seen what they have done in the last 7 years of their administration, for many the worst of the USA history!
It is time that people go to vote and rescue our democracy from the hands of people like “Dave of TN”.
What % of NYC's vote will Rudy get in a presidential election?  I bet less than 25% no matter who he faces on the Democratic ticket, even less if it is Hillary.  The only place he will carry is Staten Island.  Rudy wore out his welcome here in a big way... and as soon as the rest of the country gets to know him his candidacy is done!
Oh Please!..You liberal a*sh*les don't have no idea of what you're talking about. Rudy saved New York. Crime was running rampart, Taxes were high, welfare rolls were filled with cheats after the Dinken's administration. Rudy the sheriff cleaned up the streets by putting more cops on patrol, and he almost single handily destroyed the Mafia, he made it safe to walk the streets, cut taxes, cleaned up Times Square, saved the city with a firm hand after 911, and showed that he has the leadership skills needed to be President. A Rudy Guiliani and Fred Thompson ticket is what this country needs right now. Firm Leadership and not someone that when some other country launches an attack on America, they're in the power room putting their face on! Another thing this country doesn't need, is a liberal Democrat getting into office, and giving everything away to the parasites that cheat our Welfare system, have a budget lined with pork, and politicians that will give in and apise these evil country's like Iran, North Korea, China and Russia. No way, this country needs a firm hand like Rudy, more now than ever!
I think mark elgin from il. Hit it right on. I personally like Giuliani. However; I have change my mind somewhat because of Marks note. McCain dose have
the most attributes, including right to life. We really need to get America's morality back.
Hillery, is just to dishonest. Get on line and take
a look at 'the clinton body count' Also whats with
all the clinton's people stealing government documents? There is more there than meets the eye.
The clintons back in office would be a very bad for
all real Americans.
The American people voted for GWB who's only foreign policy experience came from his "Contra's" dad, another idiot. So if they were stupid enough to vote for GWB, then why not the lying and flip flopping Rudy. Rudy pushed they poor into Medicaid not because he cared about them, but because he did not want NYC to pay for the hospital cost. He now wants every to believe he was for health care (BS). Rudy will say anything to get elected. He choose not run against Hillery for senate because the polls showed he had no chance. Thank God for his prostate (excuse). Rudy ran as Liberal (more BS), now all of a sudden, he a conservative. He is want ever it takes to get elected.
For women's right (yea right !),now he load up the supreme court with justices that will overturn Roe V Wade. This man is a joke, but Americans voted for GWB who lied about WMD's has sent this country on a road to econmomic diaster. Has destroyed the middle class and americans by the thousands are going into foreclosure, but GWB is worried about the banks losing money. Health Care coverage is disappearing and not affordable. People must choose between eating and percriptions. Bush vetos children health care because he is afraid that a middle class man might use it. Stupid people of American unite to make the wrong choice again.
I am a republican and I would vote for Hilary Cliton before I would vote for Guliani. I agree with Mark Bradley that John McCain is the only hope for coming out of the problems we have. Aside from all of the 9/11 arogance, Guliani lost my vote when he created a fiasco in his family. Any person who cheats on their spouse and is dumb enough to let me find out about it if they do, doesn't get my vote.
Rudy has all the qualifications. He is a liar, cheats on his wives. Knows nothing about diplomacy. Is ready and waiting to go to war. Knows how to take credit for everything. Surrounds himself with criminals. Makes money off of the poor. Dam it he is the best choice
Frank, Smithtown new York...you obviously lived in a hole during the Rudy years.  Your comment is so off base it lacks any truth to it you fascist rethuglican.
The mayor of Shanksville PA should run.  He has the same resume as Rudy.
Has there been posted ANYWHERE at any time since his announcement, a positive posting from ANYONE who has actually lived in NYC under Rudy's reign?   I don't think so.  All of this buzz and and adoration from the rest of the country who only know this guy from the few soundbites they've seen on tv better wake up fast or the next presidency will make the last one look like 'the good old days' - and it might last longer too.  Remember, this is the same guy who tried to illegally extend his term in office after 9/11 on 'national security' grounds.  W/ all the inroads and erosions the present administration's made on the constitution, it wouldn't take much for king rudi to further twist it any way he wants.
RUDY is a LIAR and a LOSER!
Hey Fred, if Rudy made NYC so great, why do you live in Suffolk?  Maybe cause that's out of Rudy's jurisdiction?  All you probably saw of NYC is the 9-5 daily job.  Didn't have to shop, raise your kids, call the cops, fight the school boards or do anything the rest of us 'city folk' who are pretty pointedly NOT endorsing St. Rudi have lived thru.
Frank [[Taxes were high, welfare rolls were filled with cheats after the Dinken's administration.]]

Read the two articles whose links I posted. It looks like Dinkens was responsible for much of the decrease in the crime rate that Rudy claims total credit for. Dinkin's problem seems to be that he was black. Couldn't let a black guy get any credit, could we?

And let's not forget how much Giuliani helped training the Iraqi police by sending his pal Bernie Kerik there to cash in on the war. Those police Kerik trained helped the Iraqi death squads clean up the country. You don't want to commit the heinous crime of belonging to the wrong religious sect when they're around.
,I have been an independent Voter all my life and here we go again getting the same old promises you gave ous when we elected you and now your doing it again. Promises that will be ignored when the election is over If the playing field as far as money goes was equal i think things would be a lot different, but no the quality of the canadate will be based on the amount of money they have, and the news media will only talk mostly about that person and how great they are......Im not saying they arent good people not just presidential canadates.....As far as the x Mayor of New Yok he would be my last choice and Clinton wouldnt even be considered.  So I hope that Americans will rise up and find the canadate who will represent the people.   I dont care if they are republican, Demorcrat or what ever as long as we get our country back from the greedy who now have the power, to steal the country blind  and to take care of big business and the wealthy, and there pork barrell spending....The Democrats cant seem to find there tails and the republicans have there trunk in your wallet......
I pray Frank from Smithtown is joking with his post. It's amazing when the truth is available to you in so many forms, people continue to chose ignorance. If I didn't know better, I'd assume he was Sean Hannity's parrot spouting of party slogans. Is there anything that "the party" tells you that you won't swallow hook, line, and sinker. Be independent and think.

As for the article, I find it interesting that the murders of 3000 people who did nothing more than go to work that day has turned out to be the best thing to happen to the careers of Guilani and Bush et. al. But then Orwell said it best as he usually did.

"Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind."

And...

"War against a foreign country only happens when the moneyed classes think they are going to profit from it."
Mccain and Obama all the way baby!
,I have been an independent Voter all my life and here we go again getting the same old promises you gave ous when we elected you and now your doing it again. Promises that will be ignored when the election is over If the playing field as far as money goes was equal i think things would be a lot different, but no the quality of the canadate will be based on the amount of money they have, and the news media will only talk mostly about that person and how great they are......Im not saying they arent good people not just presidential canadates.....As far as the x Mayor of New Yok he would be my last choice and Clinton wouldnt even be considered.  So I hope that Americans will rise up and find the canadate who will represent the people.   I dont care if they are republican, Demorcrat or what ever as long as we get our country back from the greedy who now have the power, to steal the country blind  and to take care of big business and the wealthy, and there pork barrell spending....The Democrats cant seem to find there tails and the republicans have there trunk in your wallet......


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