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Obama on Clinton, health care

Posted: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:54 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan
OBAMA WEEKEND CAMPAIGN NOTEBOOK

DUNLAP, IA -- At an event here today, Obama said that Hillary Clinton "didn't have enough confidence in the American people" when she was trying to pass health care in 1993.

Obama frequently criticizes Clinton for trying to pass health care behind closed doors in 1993.  To demonstrate a contrast with her, he often says he'll put the entire process on C-SPAN. This is the first time, though, he has used the word "confidence" to describe Clinton's effort in 1993. He also placed as much blame on Clinton for failure in passing health care reform as he did the health industry.

In Council Bluffs, Obama joked about Thanksgiving in his opening remarks. "Happy Thanksgiving!” he said. “I ate too much!"

Obama appeared in high spirits talking to a crowd of a few hundred at Thomas Jefferson High School. His campaign had the podium labeled with a placard that read: "Affordable Health Care for All," but little was said that was new or deviated from Obama's stump speech. He stressed the importance of Iowa, saying that they had more of an opportunity than anyone else “on this planet” to choose the leader of the free world.

Obama also returned to the issue of drivers’ licenses for illegal immigrants, after a voter asked him about his support for a bill that provided licenses to illegal immigrants in Illinois. Obama turned the issue into one of public safety, saying that he supported the issue because he wanted to protect American citizens.

"When I was in Illinois,” he told the man who asked the question, “I voted for a provision that would require them to get drivers licenses because they were running around without insurance, without paperwork… So if they hit you there was no recourse, so I want to protect you.”

He stressed that he knew that he and voter probably disagreed on the issue, and disputed the notion raised by the man that illegal immigrants were comparable to terrorists.

"First of all, let me tell you we disagree sometimes,” Obama said. “I don't agree that illegal immigrants are like terrorists I don't agree with that. They're breaking the law. Keep in mind terrorists kill us, these people are working packing plants.”

Obama also emphasized his Midwestern roots in approaching the problem. Saying that immigration is turning into "a wedge issue" similar to the way gay marriage was used in the last election, he said that it was important to remember it should be handled in the "common sense way" that Midwesterners like him and the crowd assembled were known for.

"There have been some folks who have said it's not possible to have universal health care coverage unless there is a mandate…,” Obama said. “What I Have said repeatedly is that the reason people don't have health insurance is not because they don't want it, it's because they can't afford it."

That was a veiled reference to the disagreement with Clinton which began at last week’s debate. Obama also stressed the theme that he hit Clinton on last week, after the Clinton campaign attacked Obama on his foreign policy credentials.

"This election is about the judgment and the character of the next president," Obama told the crowd, adding, "We have a bunch of folks like that in Washington, who don't tell the America people what they really believe.”

Obama also switched a word from his stump speech. "I will initiate a new era of "presidential" diplomacy," Obama said. He usually uses the world "personal." The shift might appear small, but it could be argued that it provides more gravitas to his view that the president of the U.S. should speak directly with foreign dictators. This is one of the Obama's favorite issues on the stump and a topic on which he is unabashed in openly voicing his disagreements with Clinton.

Obama also took questions on Israel, the economy and lowering the cost of prescription drugs. He made fun of drug company commercials, saying, "people are running through the fields and you're saying what are these drugs for?" He added, smiling. “There is one drug you know what it does… You know the side effects, it gives you diarrhea."

And in a distinctly PG moment, he added, "You do know what one drug is for... Middle class couples all smiling at each other, looking happy."

Obama also said jokingly as he took questions, "These questions have not been pre-screened or pre-recorded.”

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LOL

Obama, you're so sensible

Obama '08
Happy Thanksgiving, President Obama!
Obama 08
Hillary, the spin meister.  Only dumb dems duped will vote for that conniving you know what.
Some hail from the West side ...
Some from the East side ...

Obama, he hails from the MidWest side!
Burying the lead ALERT!  How long does it take to mention in this story the primary disagreement is over mandates.  It seems that the media is trying to give as little attention to the Clinton mandate as possiblebecause when people really start to think about it, they will be turned off by the idea of forcing people to buy things even if they can't afford them.  HIllary once said that you would have to show proof of health insurance before getting a job.  I don't know about you, but that sounds backwards to me.
As an Obama supporter I think he is being too overt in his statement on character. The election is on "judgment" but "character" is just a bit awkward.

But this might be fine print, Clinton will lose Iowa badly unless Richardson supporters go to her. She is so boring on the stump it's not even close.
****PUT IT LIKE THIS****
Breathing beings, and yes members of the animal kingdom and plants this concern you as well, talk less cognizant "us". Obama makes too much goddamn sense doesn't he? His frankness and honor are unmatched and to borrow from the Great Mike Tyson "impregnable" is his vision, passion, and honesty. The perspective that we as Americans hold which spells fuck the rest of the world will be gone with Obama at the helm. I'm tired of typing and that is simply a tip of whatever you think! Peace.
What is more stupid is the fact that people think ONE MAN MAKES US A POLICY. There is a team and the president lays the agenda. He has a team which makes a policy. Isn't the DICK CHENEY_RUMSFELD experience a teaching lesson for all?. When will Americans stand up to this political BRAINWASH that is being spread by CLINTON MACHINE?. There is no experience like being HEAD OF STATE and you cant get that unless you are one. Rememeber that our current downfall occurred mainly in the second term. SO WHAT DID EXPERIENCE TEACH you?. One has to make the correct judgemet and get it right the first time. AND SURELY HILLARY CLINTON can never testify to the decision she got right.

1) My husband BILL CLINTON never had sexual relations...

2) IRAQ VOTE IS NOT A MISTAKE...IF I KNEW NOW WHAT I KNEW THEN....hahahaha..

3) VOTE TO AUTHORIZE IRANIAN REVOLUTIONARY GUARDS ... well she will make an apology for that after few months.

Gosh.. when will we wake up and when will Democrats ever learn.

I hope we have a straight up person like OBAMA leading the charge.
Requiring drivers training and insurance for all in order to be licensed to drive is only a temporary safety alternative until immigration reform can be instituted by our next president.  In much of Mexico, there are no such driver's training requirements and no speed limits to prepare a driver to drive safely when they come here.  My daughter's car was totalled by an undocumented, unlicensed, uninsured driver, and she was lucky to escape with only minor injuries. She could have been killed, and recieved no monetary compensation. Senator Obama has an extensive immigration reform plan and does not believe in Amnesty!
ha hahah very good!
Its personal presidential diplomacy. He used it at Google gathering. Sounds really good and makes Hillary bite dust.
I think O is feeling good - very good. Lately, he is looking like a winner every day (just 11 pts behind latest national poll which of course has the usual bonus for hrc) ... Well, meantime, madam H & co are making every effort to shout fire in every crowded room they can find. The way I see it, their new tactic to be confrontational at every instance (while accusing O & Edwards of throwing mud) suggests their internal #s are telling them what ordinary folks have known for so long: Obama has the potential of exciting the masses and running with the dems nomination like no other!  
Obama also needs to point out that drivers without drivers licenses are ALSO drivers who haven't had to PASS A DRIVING TEST!!!!

Hello!??

I would like to know that everyone flying down the highway has had to pass a driver's test to be on the road.
This week we will see more shots traded than at all of the race combined... http://www.enewsreference.com
Wow, if only we could have a President with a youthful, smart, and satirical sense of humor for the next several years.  People might not only come to respect the office of the Presidency again, they may even return to taking pride in it.
My heart goes out to Dennis Quaid and his family. And to Kanye West and his family. These are two unfortunate examples of why it is so important to end the Cancer of private for profit health care delivery in America. HR 676 Single Payer Universal Health Care (Medicare For All) is The Way to go. Like all other developed countries did years ago. See sickocure.org

You see, It's not just about the 47 million Americans that have no insurance. Or the 89 million who went without insurance part of the time from 2006-2007. It's about everyone. Private for profit health care delivery is not only highly immoral, and unethical. It is just down right dangerous, and bad medicine. That injures, and kills millions of Americans needlessly. Disgracefully. Shamefully.

These injuries, and deaths should not have happened. We only heard about them because it happened to celebrities. But these tragedies are happening to thousands of Americans every day in this country. But you don't hear about it. These thousands of needless deaths, and injuries of your loved ones are covered up. Under so-called patient confidentiality. Which is just health care industry speak for "don't tell anybody we injured, or killed another one".

See, no one is immune from the Cancer of private for profit health care delivery. Mr. Quaid's children were being cared for at a very renowned hospital. And I am sure Mr. Quaid probably has excellent insurance. And can afford the finest medical care available. But as it turned out. None of that mattered.  Hospitals have always been potentially very dangerous places. But under the pressures of greed, and a rush to profit. All US hospitals have become extremely dangerous, deadly places. Like they were in the 18th century. When hospitals were primarily the place you went to DIE!

I don't know exactly how this tragedy to Mr. Quaid's babies happened. But I imagine it was the same scenario that plays out thousands of times every day across America. Driven by greed, and the profit motive hospitals cut corners as much as they can get away with. This means staff that is over worked. And under staffed. It means hiring the least experienced, and cheapest hospital staff you can get. And pushing out the more experienced safer higher paid staff.

They say the pharmacist stocked the wrong meds. And that the hospitals were warned about this problem months ago. After many other perfectly healthy new born babies were killed by this mistake. I wonder how many thousands of perfectly healthy babies were killed this way across America. And how many thousands are still being killed this way across America.

It should not have mattered what concentration of heparin the pharmacist stocked the medicine cabinets with. Because every one who administers drugs is supposed to have been taught to follow the (7 R's).

a. Right drug,

b. Right patient,

c. Right dose,

d. Right time,

e. Right route,

f. Right reason,

g. Right documentation,

This is just basic practice. A experienced person will check additional things. Before giving a patient a potentially deadly drug.

In anticipation of coming changes in our health care system. Thousands of patients are being killed at a fevered pitch. And millions injured, and poisoned with unnecessary medications, medical procedures, and surgery's. In an orgy of greed, and profiteering a head of proposed changes to our current disgraceful health care system.

HR. 676 Single Payer Universal National Health Care For All (Medicare For All) can fix this disgrace. Until then, I advise you to be careful of taking any recommended medical care at this time without doing your home work. And getting a good independent 2nd, or 3rd opinion. Especially if you have so-called good insurance coverage.

And If you have to receive medical care in, or out of a hospital. Try to have a knowledgeable family member or friend to keep an eye on what they are doing to you.

Good Luck...
The government caused the problem with health care in America by over socializing (with mandates) medicine to the extent it is not completive, and we want to exacerbate the problem? Kids have health care. The needy already have health care. The U.S. is not a socialist state ( see http://tinyurl.com/2znnvl ). No one is entitled to be given a house, car, food or health care, etc. If we want these things, we have to earn them.  The government does not earn money. Perhaps some of us should take a civics class and learn about America.  We all have to labor for what we want.  For those who need help there are the charities and state programs.  We need to fix the health care issue but we cannot fix it unless we know how it is broken.  For the answer, please see http://www.InteliOrg.com/
I served on a Scientific Research Board of Scientists, one of whom served on a committee for President Clinton. At that time, there was almost an agreement to accept alternative health care providers. The American public has been misled by the American Cancer Society and many University Medical Centers about research on Disease and Medicine. Some years back that was mentioned on USA News by a former FDA authority. The issue is that each person makes health choices that affect his/her health. It is his/her responsibility if/when s/he is given the correct data to correlate into personal information. At least Sen. Hillary Clinton is aware of the personal nature as well as the nature of choice of health care. And, she is also aware that it is the responsibility of each citizen to be healthy. That sounds Republican yet Democrats are always demonized for Taxing the People. Well, I see people doing street drugs - illegal and legal - and that is an issue that every family in America needs to wake up to in this country: we have a  health issue based on an overall drug problem. People need to learn about their health not about the chemistry of their drugs. I am all for responsibility of the citizen if the government gets us the correct scientific data.
Clinton was very calculative in her response to the DL issue. Obama is very practical in his response to the DL issue. Not issueing DLs to illegal immigrants wont change the way they live in our community. Asking everyone behind a steering wheel on the road to take a driving test (whether illegal or not) makes sense. A drivers license by its mere name suggests they know how to drive. The use of drivers license as a valid id should not be used as a determination for whether someone is a legal or illegal resident. Putting proper barriers to illegal entry into USA is a better deterant than closing the nose of illegals to prevent them from breathing once they are here. Obama makes a lot of sense. The illegals did not come to USA for a DL. They came here for a better life. The inability of our government to enforce proper checks at our border should not trickle down to prevent anybody from integrating properly in the community out of fear.

Clinton has no vision of how America should be. Obama is a visionary. And Obama will execute his visions in such a way that we will leave an America that our children can be proud of inheriting. Hillary can sit at home and count her pearls and diamonds. Let Obama lead this country.
It is ironic that Obama openly supports giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants in the state of Illinois, and the public or his supporters don't seem to be alarmed about it.
Clinton was criticized heavly for 2 weeks for answering question that somehow favors giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants in the State of New York.
Where are the criticisms of Obama for his support for giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants in Illinois?  

Joseph-Portland
I'm not a Hillary Person but osme of you Dems treat her worse than Republicans....
Senator Obama certainly changed his mind from this summer if he says he does not believe in amnesty now.  As his constituent I both called his office and sent him a letter on this.  He supported 'comprehensive immigration reform', especially the amnesty, as well as Dream Act.  

So perhaps he should tell the voters in Illinois that he voted wrong as the Senator from Illinois on these amnesty bills.


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