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White House on McClellan book

Posted: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:52 AM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Kelly O'Donnell
Today at the off-camera briefing, White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said she has discussed Scott McClellan's forthcoming book with the president, and Perino said President Bush "has not and would not knowingly pass false information." 

In the yet-to-be-published book, McClellan's publisher says the former press secretary claims five White House officials -- including the president and vice president -- were responsible for McClellan passing incorrect information on the CIA leak case. As White House press secretary, McClellan had stated that officials including Karl Rove were not involved in leaking the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson.

Evidence at the Libby trial showed that Rove had discussed war critic Joe Wilson's wife and her CIA employment with two reporters. Ari Fleischer did so as well, according to court testimony.

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What kind of demented moron would equate the outing of a covert agent with a lie about an extra-marital affair?

A Republican, that kind.
I think the only honest comment Bush the Unelected Imbecile ever uttered was:
"Our enemies never stop trying to think of ways to harm our nation or our people, and neither do we."

THAT was honest. Everything else the dimwit says is suspect.
better choose who you call a moron....
moron!
jerry/corpus christi texas (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 12:55 PM)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  JERRY!
You are the king of morons!  Not so good to be king sometimes. Jerry you are the super moron!  You make shrub look like a submoron.
Two words that will keep Bush from ever being impeached: President Cheney.
50% off go sell your soul to the communist china SIGN JERRY UP
Chalk up another truth for Bush he said if anyone in my administration leaked this information I WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM. He did just that he took damned good care of scooter.
Jerry why don't you just type ditto since we all know what you will say in any given situation?
Kenn, the Senate does not vote to impeach. The House votes to Impeach, which is akin to a grand jury voting to indict a criminal defendant. Then, it is in the Senate where the trial to determine whether or not to remove the president based on the allegations contained in the articles of impeachment approved by the House.  

As for the comments regarding Jerry, I wish people would stop giving into his pleas for attention and just ignore him ...
Hillary says that she believes in the 2nd Amendment.  Do you really believe that?  

These people say so many things that make no sense and are outright lies I am surprised that anyone is "outraged" anymore by any lie, misrepresentation, or inconsistency that they hear about coming out of politician's mouths.  

Bill Clinton set the world's record for non-stop lying and was world famous for his weasel talking ways.  Hillary Clinton so good at lying she was called a good pathological liar. She was very lucky she was not indicted for her lying.  She once had to repeat over and over again 50 plus times, I do not recall, I do not recall in order to keep from having to lie.  After 8 years of the good honest folks from Arkansas we are really surprised that George and his crew does not always tell the truth.  

Who really cares about Valerie Plame and her media wh*re of a husband anymore?  If you believed that this file clerk was a real honest-to-goodness CIA agent you were totally duped as the lack of indictments show.
 
PBS.ORG jerry oh ye of little mind,senate did vote on article 1 and 2 of impeachment,lost 1 tied 1.ONCE AGAIN JERRY YOU ARE WRONG,just cause you say it and believe it wont make it real.
Kelly O'Donnell in her typical liberal forgetfullness, forgot to point out the McClellan has come out and said that the President did NOT lie to him and was not aware that Rove and Libby knew about the leak on Valerie Wilson......Valerie's husband as well as Valerie, also has tendencey towards not telling the complete truth
"looked on youtube and googled about thousands of Americans hitting the streets in protest of Bill Clinton being impeached.  Found nothing...... "

youtube was created in 2005 you moron!

And yes people were quite active before and during the clinton impeachment. they were featured on the news holding signs up calling him a rapist. The never ending protests were probably why Bush chose to not allow protesters within a mile radius. Just because you are too clueless to know how to use a computer doesn't mean there was no outrage. It only puts you in the same league as Airheaded Ann Coulter and her Inability to properly use Lexus/Nexus


Sorry to the other PJ. I will find a new board tag.
Oh my God!  Another book by another repuklican liar. I am sick to death of books by the reliarcans of the GOP, God Obsessed Poltergeists!
he would fire whoever was involved liar LIAR,HE MENT HE WOULD PARDON ANYONE CAUGHT
As for the comments regarding Jerry, I wish people would stop giving into his pleas for attention and just ignore him ...
pat huntington ny (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 1:49 PM-------------------------------------------
DITTO!!!
I'm curious; what exactly did GW say that was a lie? Before you call me a moron, or some other name, answer the question. WMDs? If Bush lied, then so did the vast majority of Dems who voted to go to war. Those people are responsible for their own votes. The CIA leak? Check your "facts" about Valerie and who outed her. From what I've seen, most of you just spew forth what you have been spoon-fed from your chosen "news" source and have'nt taken two seconds to research what you "know". There is much speculation about Bush being a liar. But Bill lied on camera and under oath to the entire nation. Face it, you just hate Bush, and this being the case, why would anyone care what you have to say about the man.
I can't believe these rightwing tools comparing Bill and Dubya... it's like Bill punches someone and Dubya shoots them and that's exactly the same. Wake up righties, you people are being play for fools! And you tools that say the GOP and the Dems are "just politicans and they're all the same" are either stupid or GOP plants. The GOP would love if everyone thought that both parties were just as corrupt, but cleary, they are not. The Dems aren't flawless, but they deal with the flaws; unlike the GOP that wants to sweep everything under the rug. They'd rather keep a seat than expose one of their crooked buddies.
I voted for Bush during his second term and voted for Gore during the first election and I should not have voted for Bush for his second term. What I failed to realize was that Bush is not smart enough to be president. I beleive that religion and money should never be in politics. I am not for taking the word God off the money or out of the pledge or any of that nonsense but religion and money should never mix together in anything not just politics. I think we are all in agreement that no matter who is President that we do not expect them to know everything, but we expect them to know enough people who know enough things to keep this country down the right path. In Bush's case the people he knows are all ultra right wing conservative religious nutjobs and zealots who you cannot reason with and the only competant people he knows are from his fathers admin with the excpetion of Cheney. For a President contantly running out of the shadow of his famous and more worldly father he is forcing himself to distance himself from anyone associated with his father and that is a bad way to run a country. You are supposed to take the best at what they do from either party and make the best decisions possible politics should be left at the entrance to the oval office and anyone with valuable points of view should be heard. This President has sealed himself off from reason and surrounded himself with Bible toting rednecks and religious zealots. In eight years we have made it ok to be wrong but reasoned it away with "thats's ok as long as we stick to our guns" logic. As long as we recognze that we are wrong but keep doing it wrong that is good enough for us. The deficit is out of control and soon America will not be in control of it's own future i.e foreign countries buying up all our debt. America is financed by other countries some of them are not our friends. In almost every respect every government agency is worse off than they were at the end of the Clinton Administration. I am not a democrat or a republican. Unless Bloomberg runs as an independant I will be voting for Mickey Mouse on election day.  
Kenn-  The House of Representatives is the only body authorized by the Constitution to impeach the President or the Vice President.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States
Any thread like this, including this one will always contain several entries from the folks on the right bringing up Bill Clinton’s personal life. Clinton did lie about a personal indiscretion and had other personal problems that were in fact wrong and he should not have done that. However, while the right was shouting from the rooftops “Clinton Lied, Clinton Lied”, his lies were at worst embarrassing, and were in no way connected to death, destruction, international conflicts, national security breeches, war profiteering, or other issues much greater than embarrassment. The Bush administration (all of them) has elevated political lies to a whole new level and made deception their specialty, yet the so called liberal media and most other politicians are afraid to expose those deceptions for what they are, LIES. As an aside, Bush did not say that anyone involved in the Plame leak would be fired, he said that there was no place in his administration for anyone who committed a crime. I thought this was a strange statement since when he said it, he had quite a few convicted criminals in his administration. Along these lines, the deception started when he first took office in 2001 and decided to side step the Presidential Records Act. Several members of his administration were involved in improper activity as members of the Reagan administration.  If these records became public in 2001 as they should have under the Presidential Records Act, the public would have known what types of criminals were running the Whitehouse back then.
Can we agree then, jerry ?
It's been 15 years of lies and scandals in the White House

Uhhhhh Sierra?

More like 1992-2000
we agree

2001-2007
The jury is still out.......
"Who really cares about Valerie Plame and her media wh*re of a husband anymore?"

Anyone who gives a damn about truth, decency, and fighting this trumped up WAR ON TERROR. Doesn't include you, I guess.


" She once had to repeat over and over again 50 plus times, I do not recall, I do not recall in order to keep from having to lie. "


When EXACTLY was this? You sure you weren't just watching Gonzalas/ Rumsfeld/ some little blonde nazi from Oral Roberts School of Biblical Law?

ANd how does equating Hillary with Bush-level lies make outing Valery Plame acceptable?

Mad Jay Hawk speak with forked tongue.
If Bush knew about Cheney's and Rove's involvement in the Valerie mess (and at some point he must have), then he lied about what he would to to those involved. A liar is a liar and a lie is a lie.
Jerry from Corus Christi, the House votes on the Articles of Impeachement. If there is a majority in favor of the Articles, the Senate hold the trial and either finds the president guilty of impeachment or acquits.

Read The Final Days by Woodward and Bernstein to get a handle on how this works.
When will the citizens of this great country wake up.
Are we going to sit back and watch a liar, a phony, a con artist and a self appointed dictator bring our country to it,s knees. He proclaimed that he was a vietnam veteran, but never was in a uniform except on the aircraft carrier. He ran and hid or hid his daddy pull strings he along with the 3 times deferred cheny stayed at home and reaped the money.
The bush is the only man in Texas that went bankrupt in the oil business and he is the only president that is bankrupting our country. He stole two elections, the first, Florida and the second Ohio, now they are working on California. PLEASE AMERICA WAKE UP NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE, THE BUSH WILL AND PROBABLY READY TO OUTSOURCE OUR COUNTRY. CHINA IS IN THE WINGS READY TO TAKE OVER, WE HAVE BORROWED EVERYTHING TO PAY FOR HIS IRAQ FOLLY. CHILDREN AND HEALTH CARE BE DAMNED. THAT IS THE MAN WE NOW HAVE IN THE WHITE HOUSE. WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
Well, what can you say. If ALL politicians in this country conducted themselves in a way that honored the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, our country and our society would be way better off. Most politicians are ok for about 2 years then they get greedy and power hungry. Look at Harry Reid, nancy Pilosi and Newt Gingrich. It is amazing how smart they become and how stupid we become when they get used to their new positions.
Let US clean house and senate and restore the people as the main focus of policy. We could:
1. Feed the poor
2. Pay off the debt
3. House the homeless
4. Protect children the elderly
5. Keep everyone safe and secure
Paula Jones in your trailer park Jerry baby?  from your constant posts it's obvious you have no personal life, though that isn't the only clue you give to your non-life in front of a TV.  

I say this because never have you shown any evidence of being attached, romatically involved, etc.  

It's obvious you don't have a clue about Gold Diggers, let alone ambulance chasers, and definitely nothing about trailer trash women (like you).

BTW, Trent Lott resigns!  How many more?  The GOPukes sure thought they were going to rule for years....now they just have to answer the question that should be posed to all GOPew's:  WHAT'S IN YOUR CLOSET
Nancy Pelosi can be emailed at the following address:
http://www.house.gov/pelosi/contact/contact.html

Tell her that Impeachment is either on the table or she is complicit in the crimes of this administration.

So where is the Republican Outrage at these lies and worse coming out of the White House and the Cheney Administration?
The USA Patriot Act, subsection 203b, makes it a felony crime to knowingly pass false information about terrorism.

You americans are the BIGGEST SUCKERS in the world.

Terrified of your own government and police you huddle in your homes around the TV.

Such fools and sucker DESERVE NO FREEDOMS.
"If Bush lied, then so did the vast majority of Dems who voted to go to war. "


So - if you lie to me about a safe falling from a 10-story window, and I move, I'm a liar, too? Because I believed you?

That's what it takes to be a BushCo republican
So where is the Republican Outrage at these lies and worse coming out of the White House and the Cheney Administration?

Still waiting to be proven.....

I doubt the Bush people have a "blue dress" unlike the Clinton people....
In !998 Tom Delay's House approved 2 articles of impeachment; perjury (228-206) and obstruction of justice (221-212). In 199 the GOP-controlled senate acquited him of both charges.  With only 45 votes the the perjury article failed, and the obstuction of justice article only drew a 50/50 vote with a 2/3 majority needed. Consequently he was never removed from office and served his full second term to the end.
Mad Jayhawk says "Who really cares about Valerie Plame and her media wh*re of a husband anymore?  If you believed that this file clerk was a real honest-to-goodness CIA agent you were totally duped as the lack of indictments show."

You my friend are the one who's been duped. Or you're trying to keep others duped. Your misdirection doesn't change the facts. What does Bill or Hillary have to do with Plame-gate? Nothing of course. You think that because no one has been indicted over it, there was no crime? This isn't over and Dubya won't always have the DoJ in his pocket. 2009 is coming fast and the GOP is going to "take a thumpin" again. Then we'll see some accountablity, and Dubya and Darth Cheney can try their "I don't recall" dance at The Hague.

Then when you start your "but Clinton this... Bill that... Hillary this... wah wah wah", I'm going to have to tell you once again... tell it to the hand.

Any religion who teaches living a rightful way such as Christianity considers "lying" a sin....we have so many self-proclaimed Christian politicians in office who are hipocrats starting with President George Bush, his Cabinet Memebers and down, to almost all members of Congress who identify themselves with a particular Christian denomination - yet, they lie and commit numerous questionable ethical practices.  Mr. President, all hopeful presidential candidates, and members of Congress, please stop using our God's name in vain.  Chances are you are already in your way to hell.
It's just sad that Fitzgerald was not able to make the case and prosecute Rove, Libby, and Cheney for treason as they are all so obviously guilty.  Bush who promised to fire anyone involved has completely wiped that statement for his memory.  Pathetic!
""I did not have sex with that woman"
                  Bill Clinton
jerry/corpus christi texas (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 11:21)"

Because oral sex and the outing of a covert CIA asset that was working on counter nuclear proliferation are on the same level...

And even if we stipulate, for the sake of an argument, that those two things are on equal footing (which you'd have to be kool aide drinking Republican to think that they are)... where is the outrage that you had for Clinton?  Why are you not upset when it's your C+ Augustus when you are still foaming at the mouth about Clinton nearly 10 years after the fact?

Remember folks, it's only ok to lie if you are a Republican.
Most Americans and a vast majority of the world know about GB and his administration. Mccllelan was one of them. Why after fired he is trying to play 'honest'? Is this for marketting his book? More money?
If it were not so pathetic, it would be laughable that the same political party that pontificates about morals and values, etc, is the same bunch that breaks at least nine of the ten commandments on a very regular basis!
Google--(the 14 points of Fascism) E-mail/print and send to anybody and everybody.
Who approved CIA Secret prisons, rendition and torture? Who decided that we don't need to comply with the Geneva Convention? Who decided that it was ok to conduct surviellance of Americans without oversight? Who decided that we could take down the submarine picket set up by Clinton to hit bin Laden with a cruise missile if he put his head up? And how come, after 1.5trillion dollars spent, we haven't got a shot off at bin Laden? How come Afghanistan is largely in the hands of the Taliban today after spending all that money? How come Al Qaeda are larger and stronger today and highly prevalent in Iraq when they weren't there at all before the invasion? How come there are up to a million dead Afghani and Iraqi citizens and the President remains unconfronted?
liar,liar, pants on fire.
Bush's claim (via Perino):  He "has not and would not knowingly pass false information."

That statement is a lie. President Bush has knowingly passed on false information.

Bush told us we don't torture. We do.

Bush told us no one could have foreseen using airplanes to attack America. Turns out there was a memo that exposed that possibility.

Bush told us no one could have anticipated the levees breaching in New Orleans. In fact, they were advised of that. Heck, the SF Chronicle had a huge piece on it days before the hurricane hit.

The Bush administration sold the prescription drug benefit as costing only $400 billion when they knew it would cost $551 billion.

Remember when Bush told us those trailers were evidence of bio-weapons labs? Turns out a team told them the contrary days before he said that. Despite evidence to the contrary, Bush continued to make the claim.

So, if this evidence stands then Bush has, in fact, lied. I welcome critical evaluation.
Lee in CA;
The author of the lie is the liar - not the people who believed him and perpetuated the lie. They made the mistake of placing their trust in a source that simply could not be trusted, and made victims of them, as well as the rest of the U.S. population. If someone tell you a safe is descending upon you, look up and learn the truth.
N.C.,  Do you have any doubt that any Republican insider who would be willing to tell the truth about the goings on in the Bush administration, would have one helluva story to tell?
"The lobbyists must be hiring!"

Did Pelosi's and Reid's kids quit?
Jerry...you still have your head up bush's patoot!  Since when does a BJ compare with TREASON?  Only in the minds of a dumb a$$ Republican
Bush and his whole crew are in it for one thing.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.  After that,they don't care.  They don't care about you or me or anyone except the board of directors they have stock in. The country got screwed and we let it happen twice.  This country has morons for an electorate and will believe anything that the pundents spit out. IDIOTS!
Does it matter?  Is he not responsible for his administration?  When he did learn did he do the right thing?

If you ran a company like that you would quickly run it into the ground!  Oh, Bush has done that already a couple times.
1.5trillion spent and not even a shot at bin Laden....
As for the President being a liar that has been very well documented. Further the denial that he even made the statements has also been documented... see the video "Zeitgeist"... it demonstrates the dishonesty of these creeps in their own words...
GTP - "The lobbyists must be hiring! We just lost another U.S. Senator!! ( Trent Lott ) They must realize that Hillary will not put up with the " Republican Bull " when she gets in office!!"

Don't bet on it, she would have to be demanding impeachment and accountability loud and long before she got my vote. No Dem is going to get my vote unless they demand accountability....


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