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Final speaking times

Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:41 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Lauren Appelbaum
Giuliani -- 16:38, during 20 times
Romney -- 13:18, during 19 times
Thompson -- 12:16, during 12 times
McCain -- 11:00, during 12 times
Huckabee -- 10:00, during 11 times
Paul -- 7:43, during 9 times
Hunter -- 5:06, during 7 times
Tancredo -- 3:49, during 7 times

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Dot, Illinois

I said unfair because I have the impression that media influences a lot on which candidate is given the most media time. Also, the more money a candidate has, the more he/she gets advertising time and can affect on the media companies. It's exaggarating to compare American elections to Russian, but there are some similarities
I have heard other folks talk about it, but after visiting a few other sites to confirm for myself, I am now sure. Ron Paul fanatics have conspired to go to any and every political oriented website, and do their best to completely monopolize all discussion.

I hate to lower the level of political discourse any further than where it already is, but....
Ron Paul is a flaming FOOL, and would be the most disastrous President that we could EVER have.

Why?

Well, as my grandpa used to say, "That boy don't believe that pig crap stinks, and that fat meat is greasy!!"

It doesn't matter whether you believe in Isolationism, or Non-Intervention. BOTH OF THEM WON'T WORK.  Ron Paul essentially wants us to stick our heads in the sand, and say, "Uh Uh. We don't have a dog in that fight. Not our business. We are going to just mind our business. You folks go ahead and do whatever you want to do, while we sit here on the sidelines."

Ron Paul is an intelligent man, I will give him that. But when it comes to dealing with REALITY, he doesn't have a clue. Ron Paul should enroll at the Institute of World Politics.  http://www.iwp.edu/about/pageID.90/default.asp

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The Institute’s philosophy proceeds first from a recognition that peace and security are the essential prerequisites for all functions of civil society, and that nothing in our public life – neither domestic governance, commerce, the exercise of civil liberties, nor organized charitable work – is possible without them.

Following from this, the Institute believes that current and future leaders must be educated so as to have deep understanding of the nature of peace. The Institute does not have a utopian view of peace. It recognizes that the achievement of peace requires an understanding of the structure of human communities and how such structure must take into account the realities of human nature – especially the human capacity to commit wrongs against one another. It is for this reason that laws are needed in human affairs, as well as instruments of coercion to enforce those laws. In a culture that has largely abandoned the serious study of tragedy and the human frailties that underlie it – in both history and literature – the Institute teaches that the conduct of statecraft must take these realities of the human condition into account.

However much this realism in assessing the worst side of human nature is necessary for effective efforts to achieve peace, on its own it can produce an excessive focus on the instruments of force while ignoring other tools of statecraft. Thus, a truly realistic view of human behavior must include a proper recognition of the best side of that nature: man’s capacity for truth, justice, and that love of neighbor that transcends the requirements of justice. It is this view that will incline the integrated strategic thinker to incorporate diplomacy and other instruments into national strategy before resorting to coercion.

The Institute recognizes that opposing concepts of human nature and the perfectibility of man also lie at the root of different political philosophies, and that the American system is explicitly based on the concept, articulated by James Madison, that if men were angels there would be no need for government. Implicit in this concept is that men are not about to become angels.

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Lauri Laitinen

Thank you for your response. I agree with both of the points in your post.  Our media seems to want to proclaim certain candidates as the front runners and as such, these candidates are given more attention than some of the others.  I have mentioned this in some of my own posts--the media does need to make an effort to be fairer in the amount of coverage given to all of the candidates.  Sometimes, however, the media gets it wrong--2004's Democratic primary is a good example.

And you are correct that the more money a candidate has, the more ads he/she can buy, the more attention he/she gets, etc.  Money, and the need to raise large amounts for their campaign funds, have become an  overriding concern for our politicians.  Those who don't have wealthy supporters, who can't raise huge amounts of money, are at a real disadvantage in campaigning.  We desperately need campaign financial reform in the country--we talk about it during every campaign, yet it never gets done.

So, in those areas there is some unfairness. But all in all, I would still say that our system is a good one.
Chris H,

Have fun in your police state buddy, when you lose all your freedom in the name of 'terror' -- But I don't think you will. Because when Ron Paul wins we will restore the constitution.

Why don't they ask Dr. Paul if waterboarding is torture, I bet he could give them a one word answer.
The fact that Huckabee is on the same stage as Paul is a joke. Huckabee is nothing but a tax and spend liberal. He reminds me of Gubber, but Gubber had a higher IQ.


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