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Oh-eight (R): Rudy, Judi, the Hamptons

Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:20 AM by Mark Murray
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A new Clemson University South Carolina poll has Romney at 17%, Thompson 15%, Huckabee 13%, Giuliani is at 9%. About 28% say they are still undecided.

In another poll, Romney maintains a 14-point lead in New Hampshire, and Fred Thompson is at a stunning 2%. Here are the numbers: Romney 34%, Giuliani 20%, McCain 13%, Paul 8%, Huckabee 7%, and Thompson 2%.

GIULIANI: The big non-debate news from yesterday came from the Politico. “As New York mayor, Rudy Giuliani billed obscure city agencies for tens of thousands of dollars in security expenses amassed during the time when he was beginning an extramarital relationship with future wife Judith Nathan in the Hamptons, according to previously undisclosed government records.” 

The New York Post's headline: "Rudy's Hidden Love-Nest $$: Billed City 500G for Trips to Judi's.”

The New York Daily News: "It has been known since 2000 that then-Mayor Giuliani used his official, taxpayer-funded NYPD detail to escort him to weekend getaways at Nathan's Southampton condo as early as 1999, well before his marriage to Donna Hanover dissolved the following spring… Coming amid a heated Republican primary battle for President, the gimmickry leaves Giuliani vulnerable to attack on several fronts: his boasts about fiscal stewardship as mayor, and as a fresh reminder of the affair before Nathan became his third wife. The campaign was rocked as news of the bills filled TV screens before the national political press gathered in St. Petersburg, Fla., for last night's GOP debate. A hush fell over the room as Giuliani campaign manager Mike DuHaime and communications chief Katie Levinson turned away from reporters to listen to the cable news chatter.”

USA Today: “Tony Carbonetti, Giuliani's mayoral chief of staff and his top campaign political adviser, said he's asked Joe Lhota, a former city budget director, ex-deputy mayor and a Giuliani campaign adviser, to explain how such accounting practices could have occurred and why security expenses were not billed to the police department. ‘These were all legitimate expenses incurred in protecting the mayor, and his police detail covered him wherever he went, 24/7,’ Carbonetti said in an interview before the debate. ‘You just do what you do, and the police go with you. That's just a fact of life when you're the mayor of New York.’ Giuliani's affair with Nathan, while he was married to second wife Donna Hanover, has become common knowledge.”

More: “But the suggestion, true or not, that he was hiding expenses for liaisons with Nathan in little-known city accounts, could open him up to criticism, remind voters of his three marriages and infidelity and tarnish his good-guy image from the aftermath of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The report surfaced just five weeks before voting begins, and a couple hours before the GOP candidates shared a debate stage. None of Giuliani's rivals raised the issue. Debate moderator, CNN's Anderson Cooper, asked Giuliani about it briefly.”

ROMNEY: Wow, Mike Huckabee has really recalibrated things. In a "Morning Joe" interview on MSNBC this morning, the former governor was asked if not winning Iowa was "devastating," and he said it wasn't and claimed there are "three tickets" out of Iowa -- maybe two tickets out of new Hampshire.  So Romney is trying to dial back expectations but has he led in the polls in both Iowa and New Hampshire too long?

More evidence that Romney is going to be the most attacked candidate? A pro-choice GOP group, Republican Majority for Choice debuts $100,000 worth of attack ads against Romney for flip-flopping on the abortion issue.

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Gigolo is now such an appropriate name for such a despicable low life of a man who would bill New York tax payors thousands of dollars for security while he carry's on an affair with his than mistress. It is like watching an episode of the new show Dirty, Sexy, Money. The only difference is the show is very good and pandering/Gansta Rudy is a vile pig.
Your reported SC polls:

"Romney at 17%, Thompson 15%, Huckabee 13%, Giuliani is at 9%"

Your reported NH polls:

"Romney 34%, Giuliani 20%, McCain 13%, Paul 8%, Huckabee 7%, and Thompson 2%"

So while Huckabee at 7% and Thompson at 2% in NH is worth mentioning, McCain at 11% and Paul at 6% in SC is not worth mentioning?

You wonder why the MSM is accused of bias?

Puzzling to me is the MSMs failure to recognize the ongoing transformation of media from hardcopy newspaper to emedia.  From a marketing perspective, it would make sense to engage, not alienate, your existing consumer base (clearly a Ron Paul demographic).
If it comes down Hillary V Rudy, this will be interesting....

One had an affair while he was still married......
One had a husband who had an affair while he is married.

Guess it will come down to who had the sleazist affair.

The Condo Vs the Cigar.

Merle should have a field day with this.....

Of course the democrats are probably steaming mad this morning.....

They are probably arguing that this should have been held up until the general election.
Where is the outrage from the holier than thou crowd? For years you people have preached and prattled to the rest of us about adhering to your religous moral codes well its time for you to step up to the plate and hold your own accountable first.

Rudy is a cheater and cavorts with terrorists
Fred is a cradle robber
Mitt is part of a cult
Tom wants to build a berlin wall
Ron wants to make america everyman for themselves

Last night's debate was revealing to me. Guliani was good, Huckabee proved viable, Thompson flopped.  Everyone took shots at Romney, he answered well on most.  Still undecided between Romney and Guliani.  
First it was a small six figure amount then it was around 38,000 and now the figure is up to over $500,000.  I am just waiting for the NYPD union to state that this is enough money to pay the salaries of 20 police officers or that at a time where cops and firefighters were struggling the Mayor was spending city money to carry out an affair.
Did anyone notice the disparity of which budgets were stripped so Rudy could hide his affair?  $400K from the public defender budget?  Because those guys have waaaaay too much money at their disposal.  Once a prosecutor always a prosecutor.  I think Rudy liked the sick irony.

Law Suit Idea:  Sue Rudy personally and the City of New York for taking away funds that prevented a defendent from getting an adequate defense.  It's a BS law suit, but there's got to be a low-rent NYC lawyer who wants a little publicity.  Hey, maybe he can score big and get a semi-innocent defendent a new trial.

If you embarrass Rudy enough about this maybe the next guy won't feel free to dip his wick on the public dime.
It was only a matter of time before some dirt was revealed about Rudy and his sleazy affair with Judith.  Wake up Republicans, we don't need someone that willing to be dishonest as president!!  What a looser.  That fact that he used public money to facilitate his affair is ludicrous.  At this point the only decent one for president on the Republican side is McCain.  While I do not agree with him on the war I think he is at least an honorable man.
Ooops.
Rudy is nothing but a lying thug. He is the worst of all the candidates democratic or republican.
"One had an affair while he was still married......
One had a husband who had an affair while he is married."

Jerry, I fail to understand how it matters that the husband had an affair.  It seems to me (one was to blame, obviously the one who had the affair) and one was innocent. (The one cheated on).  I really don't see any comparison.

It comes down to Hillary-vs-Rudy?.....Bah Humbug      It has been said," give them enough rope and they will hang themselves". As things progress and the tongues become more twisted Rudy, Mitt, Fred and Hillary are beginig to self destruct with a little help. And from here the slope gets more slippery.    It is becoming more clear it will be Edwards-vs-Obama with Biden the top VP choice, and Huckabee-vs-McCain with Paul the closing dark horse.                    Sounds reasonable, the pre-race favorites rarely ever win in horse racing either
Any history buffs out there?  I know that Rudy Giuliani, if elected, would not be the first president to have had a mistress at some time in his life.  But my question concerns the First Ladies.  Would Judith Nathan be the first First Lady ever to have been someone’s mistress?
Anyone interested in what Huckabee is really like face to face should try this funny (but it actually happened) column:
http://goupstate.us/index.php/lanefiller/2007/11/02/title_14

STEVE OF MV-WOW, YOU REALLY HIT THE NAIL IN THE HEAD
So much for the hero of 9-11----spending taxpayer money from childrens disability funds?Guess new yorkers pay for all the screwing around their officials do.Kerik was screwing around with Judith Reagan in the apartment that was rented for workers to rest,Rudy had to be escorted to Long Island and the Hamptons to get his nookie.Judith as the first lady?It boggles the mind with all those so called family values and compassion---where did Hanover come into this threesome?I believe that is why Rudy dropped out of the senate race---his affair not his cancer.
I'm glad that the rest of the country is slowly learning what most of us New York City residents already know, Giuliani is no better than the thugs that he paid to run the city. If 9/11 never occurred it would have been straight to political oblivion.  It's amazing how so many Americans are seduced by this carnival huckster. Having also worked at Two World Trade Center, it simply blows my mind that he has made millions profiting from his so-called "security" consulting and speeches.  I guess we are so accustomed to mediocrity that in the absence of leadership from Washington, Guiliani's ability to string together a few coherent sentences after 9/11 rendered him a national hero. The real joke is that he happens to be a closet Democrat just like Mike Bloomberg.  


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