I agree with you, Santa An that the corperate media wants the weakest Democrat to run against the Rep. in the GE.
 The Corperate Media is REPUBLICAN.  
 Check it out.  Who do their "lapdogs" like Hardball's Matthews push...Obama.  What should that tell us?
 Since Matthews viciously attacks Senator Clinton nightly, we know the Republican Corperate Media is afraid of her.
   Obama is a good guy but he'd be hamburger meat in no time in the Republican meat grinder spin machine.
   It's unfair but true.

As a Democrat who watched the debate, it was very informative and interesting.  Debates should show contrasting positions and last nights did.  There seems to be no unity on immigration, the war, torture or taxes even on the republican side.  These issues are the big rocks that Republicans pelt the Democrats with.  

I guess when the get a nominee, the words "glass houses" come to mind.

For me with respect to these candidates, my question concerns foreign policy knowledge and/or experience. With the exception of McCain, are the others well versed in international issues?

(Im sorry to say but i think the debate was terriable and never really addressed the issues concerning the America people... I think the media set it up as a show for 3 of the canadates and ignored the others...Thats why this country is in the the mess we are the media no longer represents  free press views but what the almighty dollars brings in and tries to convince the American people who is the better person.....Keep out of it None of these canadates are what this country really needs

2nd try at getting the truth out...

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Trust no one...
The following sites devote as much time and space to Denis Kucinich and Joe Biden as they do to the big three. Whether you are a dem or republican, liberal, moderate or conservative, your candidate is represented equally at these sites. Forget about Big Media and the MSM, create your own narrative.

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http://www.opensecrets.org/  Opensecrets.org is "Your guide to money in U.S elections."


Just about every poll from every pollster, averaged out, with a link to the source
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/  Is THE source for political junkies, with links to every major political site on the right, left and center.

What the candidates actually have said about the issues.
http://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm This is a Great site! Every candidate on every issue!


How the candidates have voted and their LIberal/Conservative ratings
http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib.htm?o1=lib_composite&o2=asc#vr Has the voting records for all members of congress, and their Liberal/Conservative ratings.

http://votesmart.org/index.htm Here's what they say at the site;
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Van

Although extremely careful to avoid mentioning the name of George W. Bush, the GOP hopefuls save Paul, essentially are continuing to march in lock step with Bush and apparently intend, if elected, to continue all policies, foreign and domestic, of the current discredited and failed Commander-in-Chief.  The GOP will not win the election of November 2008, by handing the electorate the Presidency of George W. Bush who has been rejected by approximately 75% of his Nation. Just avoiding mentioning Bush's name at televised debates is not adequate, the possible nominees have to verbalize how their respective Administrations would differ from the current GOP regime.

"beliving in the shear utter nonesense of the bible completely rules that out. as a baptist minister mr huckabee shoul withdraw from the running."
-- then prehaps we should erase a large protion of America's history including removing Washington and Lincoln from our History books.  Wake up a smell the coffee; what make believe world do you live in?  Understanding and appreciating the Bible, and other religious books for that matter, is a key skill in understadning human kind, history, and being a great leader for USA and the world.

"On a side note, I heard the Clinton's campaign planted another question in the republican debate. The general that ask that question works for the Clinton’s campaign. "

I am expecting Clinton's spin on this.


Bee, I have mentioned many times here that , with all respect, we don't mind you sing songs for Obama, but you better know the words before you sing it, otherwise it doesn't sound good.

Also on the trail today . . . Edwards on Countdown with Keith Olberman. I'm surprised First Read wouldn't plug this, seeing as Keith is a colleague of yours at MSNBC.

A)  The great deflating sound you heard last night were the lungs of liberals who have been seeding Paul's campaign when he said he will not run as a third candidate.  Looks like you kids are just gonna have to try and win one fair and square!

B)  Dems better start fearing Huckabee, and fast.  This guys has a bullet next to his name.

C)  Fred Thompson:  Done.  Finished.  Finute.
D)  Note to Rudy; coming off as a bully will not help you, so cut it out!
E)  Is it just me, or does Romney come of as Kerry lite?
F)  Note to Bill Clinton; dude, shut up, will you?  The reason the right owned DC for the better part of 12 years was because keeping things closed seems to be a real issue with you.
G)  Huckabee vs. Robo-Hillary?  I think she'd get her clock cleaned.

pat huntington ny ....Bee, this is a total fabrication.  And even if it were a planted question, it was clearly appropriate...it was from a retired army general who was gay asking about don't ask don't tell, i.e., gays in the military.  


Typical response from someone in the Clinton's backpocket. "We didn't do it, but if we did do it, it doesn't matter." The Bart Simpson method of denial.

We had eight years of this crap in the '90s, we don't need another four.

Just like so many uninformeds.....you use public education's grading system to rank the debaters....
That doesn't say a thing about to what extent they performed....
It's hard to be an eagle among turkeys......and who else is tiring of the response rhetoric?  

I didn't care for any of these nut jobs.  They aren't racist enough for me to vote for them.

I have a great deal of respect for Hillary Clinton.  Unfortunately, however, the last few weeks have done nothing but remind Americans of how much they didn't like the way she handled being in the Whitehouse, especially her arrogant approach to the healthcare issue.  She turns people off, plain and simple.  If the media continues to insist on her as the nominee, we're guaranteed a Republican victory.  She can't win this; there are just too many negatives and too much baggage.  Unfortunately, the media is more interested in having a year long soap opera between  the two worst possible nominees, than facilitating real and desperately needed change in this country.

What an entertaining and educational evening. The U-Tube format at first seemed a bit weird, but it worked.

Huckabee and Paul were the only candidates last night who seemed to genuinely have the best interest of the American public at heart.

Rudy came in a close third.  If he could do for the rest of America what he did for New York (if his statistics are correct), he might have the receipe for fixing what's wrong with America.

Tancrato needs to pack his tent and move on, as should Romney after changing his position on almost everything discussed last night more times than he changes his underwear. And what was he trying to say when he said that he has two guns at home, neither of which are his (They belong to his son who likes to buy his dad expensive things. Give us a break!).

Fred was....er.....a..just Fred.  I just don't see him running the country.  Neither do I see McCane.  We'd never get out of the war.

Pat
You need your head checked if you vote for Hilary too.

The only thing I hear from people of all races and economic classes is that they don't know who there voting for but they are sure it won't be Hilary based on her total inexperience (no we don't count working with the White House Caterers as experience or putting contracts out on Bill's indiscretions as experience) as well as the Clinton family corruptness.  She will not gain anyone elses votes so whatever she currently has is her high water mark.

This si the story about Hillary Clinton sending a plant to the debate last night.......


It turns out that Keith Kerr, retired Colonel., U.S. Army; retired Brigadier General, California National Reserve, who submitted a YouTube question about gays in the military, is actually a member of Hillary Clinton's Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transexual Americans For Hillary Steering Committee.  He's also part of a film production crew trying overturn the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.

UPDATE: In the final seconds of the post-debate coverage, Anderson Cooper acknowledges that CNN messed this up and states that CNN did not know that Kerr has a position within the Clinton campaign and that had they known, they would have disclosed the association.

they are not called the Clinton news network for nothing.......

doesn't that woman have any shame?....

BILL C., COULD YOU PLEASE STOP ADVERTISING!!? STUFF LIKE THAT MAKES PEOPLE VOTE AGAINST HER!!!

(Hmmm...if that's the case, nevermind Bill C., keep doin' what you're doin', heh-heh)

Huckabee is going to end up with the nomination.

Mike could get some free publicity if his campaign co-ordinators are allowed to use the "Bee Movie" for endorsements. ;o)

Just a little levity but, Mr. Huckabee uses his religious background effectively without going overboard. He certainly CANNOT be compared to Jorge Bush.

He may just wind up being the GOP candidate and hopefully, will expose Hillary and her crowd for the Left-Wing Socialist tactics which she will bring to the WH.

However, never underestimate the stupidity of people in groups as the Democrats may fuse Hillary Rodham Clinton with the Rock Star "Barack Hussein Obama" as their 2008 ticket.

If that happens and these two are elected, all I can say is God Help the United States and I'm leaving.

The North American Union will become a reality and we'll be speaking Spanish as our main language within 20 years, with English frowned upon.

Former NYC in NC,Charlotte,NC: even without counting experience as first lady (and to say that she wasn't actively involved/engaged in his administration is a joke)her experience in the Senate is more than we can say for some of the other candidates. One could say "The only thing I hear from people of all races and economic classes is that they don't know who there voting for but they are sure it won't be [[insert candidate's name here]]" for any of them, so let's not think it is just Hillary. They all are pieces of work in their own way.

To Es...
Can you all just please drop your defenses for the Bible. I'm getting tired of taking you all out to the woodshed and hammering you. Listen you have the freedom to believe whatever delusions you want, just don't talk about it or the rest of us will assume you are delusional.
Es, your points make little to no sense, what's all the crap about Lincoln and Washington. How many times do the HISTORIANS HAVE TO REMIND YOU THAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WERE DEISTS who did not believe in a personal God. For chrissakes Thomas Jefferson wrote his own Bible.
Christians will not be allowed to claim and destroy our country. So just stop bringing religion up, lest every message board should turn into a holy war. Your religion is your religion, but none of us care and we will not let you lay claim to our great secular nation, which it always has been and always will be.

Go live with the Taliban or in Iran and execute gays like the Bible says to do if you are such a defender of delusions. Mind you Leviticus does not say a man and another man should not be allowed to get married, it says that men who lay with other men should be condemned to death. Yea, you're right religious books are a key skill in understanding human kind, or maybe better put understanding how human kind devolves into animals without logic.

"Planting" is an issue if the goal is to ask your own person a question allowing them to answer the question they want to answer. I imagine all the campaigns have ensured that the questions they want to ask their opponents are beign submitted.

Former NYC in NC,Charlotte,NC (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:53 AM
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of course that's what you hear, you live in NC.  here in ny, people are going to vote for her.

So far Senator Biden is the only candidate to have been endorsed by a newspaper. The DI (University of Iowa Student newspaper) endorsement is below, it is the second newspaper endorsement Biden has received. If you are keeping score that would be Biden 2, every one else 0!


By: Kathleen Watson - The Daily Iowan

Posted: 11/29/07

The Iowa Caucus matters.

The rest of the country looks closely at the winners in Iowa. I'd like to see national attention given to issues that matter to Americans rather than focus on polls, fundraising, or "gotcha" moments. Iowans need to support candidates with real experience, look past the media-friendly superstar candidates, and focus on leadership. That's why next month I'll change my
registration from independent to Democrat for the first time in my life and caucus for Sen. Joe Biden.

If you've watched any Democratic debates, you may have felt like you were watching reruns of The Hillary Show. That's not a knock against Hillary, that's directed toward all the front-runners, who waste my time badmouthing George W. Bush and trying to discredit others on the stage, rather than stating their positions.

In the few short minutes Biden is given in each debate, he speaks truth to power. On the question of banning the contaminated products from China, his
point was: If the toys were made in Morocco, they'd be banned already. He's right - this issue has everything to do with our relationship with China. As the chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, he seems to be the only candidate who understands how our complex foreign relationships influence our domestic policy.

He has a responsible solution to end the war in Iraq and slices through the partisan rhetoric of "cut and run" or "stay the course." The Biden-Gelb Plan
(as he refers to it) separates Iraq into regions and draws down troops responsibly. It allows for breathing room to curb the sectarian violence while the country rebuilds. He stands behind his word to support the troops.

In a recent visit to Iowa City, the senator spoke of the myth that the country is divided into "red states" and "blue states." I couldn't agree more. I think back to the days after 9/11 and how proud I was to be an
American. I was shocked by the terrorist attacks and frightened by the anti-American sentiment that fueled them, but I was proud of my country and how we came together. We all wanted to be part of the solution. People stood in line to give their blood; some traveled for miles to volunteer. We were proud to be Americans, and we were determined to prove that we wouldn't let the terrorists win.

Where are we now? Our president was elected with 50.7 percent of the vote, the Democratic majority in the Senate is 51 percent, the House is roughly 54 percent, and Supreme Court rulings are increasingly made by 5-4 decisions. How do we benefit from having this country so narrowly divided? We don't, politicians do. Their focus is on winning, which only requires 51 percent, but it doesn't unite the country when 49 percent of us lose.

We're the same country we were on 9/11. Americans may not approve of the Bush administration, but a disagreement doesn't change who we are and what
we value. We have the same values we had after the World Trade Center fell and before the Iraq war began. What's changed is the fierce partisanship that now divides the nation.

Biden gets past the partisanship. His message resonates with independents such as myself who are tired of political games, and ready for solutions.
I've been called naive for my faith in a candidate who hasn't raised enough money to be considered a "front-runner." I've been told that I'm wasting my
vote. In my view, if you support someone because you think they have the money or personal connections to win, you're doing more harm than good. George W. Bush had connections and raised record-breaking amounts of money. The ability to win an election doesn't make a good candidate into an effective president, it only helps the political party, not the country.

After the caucuses and primaries, we'll watch debates between two nominees. The Democratic front-runners can't win a debate with each other - how will
they beat a Republican? The knowledge, leadership, and intellectual honesty of Joe Biden stand out in every debate, and I'm confident that he can run circles around a Republican opponent.

Regardless of which candidate you support, I hope everyone will join me in 35 days and caucus for a candidate he or she believes in. Change begins on
college campuses; take this opportunity and caucus. Let's prove that we're not all naive college students; we're future leaders, future professionals,
and future parents. Let's stand together in the Iowa caucus, and begin to stand together as a country.

E-mail DI columnist Kathleen Watson at Kathleen-watson@uiowa.edu.

The following is the statistical data I collected from the debate. Feel free to analyze it as it suits you.


The first category is FACE-TIME for each candidate
(actual min/secs speaking on camera) and that percentage compared to the other candidates in the “debate”.


Tancredo  3 min 45 secs ( 4.60%)
Hunter    4 min ( 4.90%)
Huckabee  8 min         ( 9.85%)
Paul  8 min 30 secs (10.46%)
Thompson 11 min         (13.54%)
McCain           12 min         (14.76%)
Romney         14 min 15 secs (17.54%)
Guiliani         19 min 45 secs (24.30%)



Opportunities given to speak- (both Granted & Taken)
(D=Direct questions/R=Responses/I=Interruptions)

Tancredo D=6 R=0   I=1 (7.5%)
Hunter        D=6     R=0   I=0 (6.5%)
Huckabee        D=10 R=1   I=0 (11.5%)
Paul            D=7 R=2   I=0 (9.5%)
Thompson D=11 R=2   I=0 (11.5%)
McCain        D=10 R=4   I=1 (12.5%)
Romney        D=12 R=4   I=2 (18.5%)
Guiliani D=14 R=6   I=2 (22.5%)

Hopefully the future debates will allow all candidates equal time to speak on the issues that are relevant to  the citizens, not who can spin the most rhetoric.

I would like to state one opinion on last night's event, however. The 30 second personal attack make by Sen. John McCain towards Congressman Ron Paul was
an embarrassment to the Republican Party and this country.

There is no excuse for his behavior.
And it is quite apparently shown in the lack of support for his candidacy.

He may want to reconsider who he picks a fight with next time.

Re: Bill Hamlin from Rochester, New York

The position of Jesus Christ relative to capital punishment is quite clear.  When the religious leaders wanted to stone the adulterous woman to death, Jesus said something to the effect of let he who is without sin cast the first stone.  When none of the religious leaders threw a stone (and thus did not condemn her to death), Jesus also refrained from saying that she should be condemned for what was considered a capital offense in that society.

The context of the event and quote you reference was one about whether a follower of Christ could pay the Roman tax and still be a true follower of the faith.  It had nothing to do with capital punishment.

I don't understand how Huckabee can be passed for a conservative. He couldn't name three departments he would eliminate. He doesn't want to cut taxes - despite his aggressive rhetoric that he would eliminate IRS, he's merely replacing it with another high-tax, so-called consumption tax. His "improving" education and "reducing" poverty agendas are nothing more than euphamism for spending. He makes a lot of "feel-good" promises that are clearly intended to do opposite. No wonder CATO gave him D/F.

 Now, I have to ask if Huckabee really understands why we are so adamantely against tax; or even he's a conservative.

I hate aligning myself with the Weekly Standard, but they are right that Huckabee lacks substance. Surely he's well-spoken and suave, his policy views and his record as governor in Arkansa indicates that he's a crypto-liberal.

Is it just me, or did anyone else hear a smattering of "boos" while the homosexual general with 42 years of service was speaking?

He makes off color comments that reak of sexism and immaturity against Hillary.

Immaturity Pat?

Who is the woman that cried about being picked on when she got a hard question from Tim Russert that took her two weeks and five different answers to finally say NO!  Plus, cost her about 30 points in the race.

If anybody has any growing up to do, it's Hillary Clinton.  bad enough she has to send a man to ask a question at the debate...Why didn't she ask the question herself?

The following is the statistical data I collected from the debate. Feel free to analyze it as it suits you.


The first category is FACE-TIME for each candidate
(actual min/secs speaking on camera) and that percentage compared to the other candidates in the “debate”.


Tancredo  3 min 45 secs ( 4.60%)
Hunter    4 min ( 4.90%)
Huckabee  8 min         ( 9.85%)
Paul  8 min 30 secs (10.46%)
Thompson 11 min         (13.54%)
McCain           12 min         (14.76%)
Romney         14 min 15 secs (17.54%)
Guiliani         19 min 45 secs (24.30%)



Opportunities given to speak- (both Granted & Taken)
(D=Direct questions/R=Responses/I=Interruptions)

Tancredo D=6 R=0   I=1 (7.5%)
Hunter        D=6     R=0   I=0 (6.5%)
Huckabee        D=10 R=1   I=0 (11.5%)
Paul            D=7 R=2   I=0 (9.5%)
Thompson D=11 R=2   I=0 (11.5%)
McCain        D=10 R=4   I=1 (12.5%)
Romney        D=12 R=4   I=2 (18.5%)
Guiliani D=14 R=6   I=2 (22.5%)

Hopefully the future debates will allow all candidates equal time to speak on the issues that are relevant to  the citizens, not who can spin the most rhetoric.

I would like to state one opinion on last night's event, however. The 30 second personal attack make by Sen. John McCain towards Congressman Ron Paul was
an embarrassment to the Republican Party and this country.

There is no excuse for his behavior.
And it is quite apparently shown in the lack of support for his candidacy.

He may want to reconsider who he picks a fight with next time.

Jerry> An interesting question for you. If a gun were held to your head forcing you to vote for a Democrat in the election, which would you vote for?

Bee;

I agree with Van:  Your grammer is nearly as bad as are your outlandish political ruminations.

Try some proper English, grammer and punctuation for a change!!  It's enough that we get exposed to your idiotic political drivel without also having to put up with your lousy and inept attempts to use the English language.

It is very interesting you mention a McCain-Huckabee ticket.  I am wondering if this is not considered seriously at this very time.

This could make sense if the Hillary campaign shows more signs of vulnerability, which is very questioning considering the momentum she had at the beginning of the run.  Money (...a big fat lot of it), favorable attention from the media and a big part of the public, she was already in the White House.  Many seem to still see her as the inevitable winner in 2008, and I think that this is responsible for some resilience instead of a lot of deceptions lately.  Obama seems to really believes in his chances and that is another sign, add the Ophra willingness to go in and you got a strange picture.

So now the question is less about who could face (and have a little chance to compete with) Hillary...  There I can see why Giuliani is stuck to the ground, struggling and him also showing signs of doubts.  His « challenge Hillary » ability was a big argument for him, ...  As for his engagement to propose strict constitutionalist for the SC, ...Robertson did not convince and seemed in foreign land at Rudy's side.  What does remain: though!  On defense, on crime, on terrorism, ...

That's where McCain is a wild card.  I think that there is not an American, and particularly an American soldier who does not think at the bottom of his heart that McCain paid the price for this country...!  He is no Kerry, he is no National Guard vacationer Bush...  He showed what he is made of and even Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi (and all the SF/SP values people O'Reilly could lament on ...) will show respect to John McCain.  Moreover, he showed a good capability at « reaching across » and making things work.  Everybody knows that he is well aware of the consequences of the decisions he would make about defense at least.  He was loyal to the Bush administration mostly; still everybody knew he was no Dubbya.  So while anybody could be interested more in other candidates for immediate reason, nobody is insensible to John McCain.  Who could not vote for him anytime?  That's the real question...

A vote for McCain is a vote to express consideration for the present sacrifice of the young soldier.  A vote for McCain is a vote for pragmatism, high moral values but also consideration for dissents and even enemies.  A vote for McCain is a vote for life as it is, precious anyway.  ...and he has already Brownback's endorsement.

Giuliani, and eventually Hillary's take at the White House, are based on a division in the Evangelical vote.  Those are now sharing their support to various candidates, in the two parties incidentally.  Bring Huckabee in the deal, a small town boy with small people in his mind, a typical evangelical himself with an affinity for Jimmy Hendricks and hunting.  Well, is everybody covered?

No, evidently!  The Gay movement, the pro-abortion lobbying, the fossil energy lobbing and the big corporations would find themselves on the same wagon, off the rails.  Strange, those who do not represent any majority but where pulling the strings on one side or another, would find themselves out of the circle, leaving more influence to the core of the American population, moderate people with most of the Evangelical base, Dems or GOPs!

Maybe for now this is not what most American voters have in mind.  But if they ever take a look at it, this could change things in less than a week, drastically, until October 2008.

The following is the statistical data I collected from the debate. Feel free to analyze it as it suits you.


The first category is FACE-TIME for each candidate
(actual min/secs speaking on camera) and that percentage compared to the other candidates in the “debate”.


Tancredo  3 min 45 secs ( 4.60%)
Hunter    4 min ( 4.90%)
Huckabee  8 min         ( 9.85%)
Paul  8 min 30 secs (10.46%)
Thompson 11 min         (13.54%)
McCain           12 min         (14.76%)
Romney         14 min 15 secs (17.54%)
Guiliani         19 min 45 secs (24.30%)



Opportunities given to speak- (both Granted & Taken)
(D=Direct questions/R=Responses/I=Interruptions)

Tancredo D=6 R=0   I=1 (7.5%)
Hunter        D=6     R=0   I=0 (6.5%)
Huckabee        D=10 R=1   I=0 (11.5%)
Paul            D=7 R=2   I=0 (9.5%)
Thompson D=11 R=2   I=0 (11.5%)
McCain        D=10 R=4   I=1 (12.5%)
Romney        D=12 R=4   I=2 (18.5%)
Guiliani D=14 R=6   I=2 (22.5%)

Hopefully the future debates will allow all candidates equal time to speak on the issues that are relevant to  the citizens, not who can spin the most rhetoric.

I would like to state one opinion on last night's event, however. The 30 second personal attack make by Sen. John McCain towards Congressman Ron Paul was
an embarrassment to the Republican Party and this country.

There is no excuse for his behavior.
And it is quite apparently shown in the lack of support for his candidacy.

He may want to reconsider who he picks a fight with next time.

"Romney's answer about black on black violence was one of the best answers of the night. He mentioned the father, and that in a nutshell answered where and why violence starts. Too many black kids grow up without responsible parents. That is the ONLY answer to the problem. Black society needs to take responsibility for its own actions instead of blaming the white man and republicans."

Mick...your post is typical rep biggoted nonsense.  First of all I will start by saying that yes...there are too many black(and white, even though it doens't get reported) children living in single parent homes.  

But you can't deny that there is huge opportunity gap in this country.  Young black males are 3 times as likely to get expelled from school as their white male counterparts for the SAME OFFENSES.

The unemployment rate among African Americans with a high school degree is lower than that of Whites that are high school dropouts.

Even the conservative hero of the day(Ron Paul) openly admits that the "war on drugs" is nothing more than farce and an excuse to lock up young black males.

Your post is what I would expect from most Republicans, which is to reduce complex problems that don't have one single solution to fals "either/or" debates.

Fred, it's time to wake up now and take your pills.

Fred, it's time to wake up now and take your pills.

If anyone would actually listen to Tancredo it would be immediately become apparent that he embodies all of the ideals of the Republican party. He is truly the only candidate who is consistently conservative and provides concrete solutions to the imminent threats facing our country stemming from illegal immigration. I agree with other comments that Republicans are doomed since their first tier candidates are running for the wrong party. How have we sold out to Democratic-like candidates and "values"?

Hey Pat it's me again, Josh from Hicktown, MS, yeah, I was wondering why are you so intimidated about Mike Huckabee? You get on here and talk about evolution and bible thumping (2 issues you obviously know very little about) and you think that christians are narrow-minded, WOW. About the planted questions, Gays in the military? How relevant is that? Or what about the ? on the Rebel flag? or Black voters? Are these seriously an issue? The "What would Jesus Do?" hype faded out about 7 years ago. PLANTED ?'s to make the GOP candidates look like backwoods hillbillies. AND an attempt to make the DEMS look intelligient and serious about the real issues. If they were all that intelligient they would have realized that this ploy would have recognized. Mike Huckabee WILL win!! AND then Mexico will have the immigration problem. LOL!!  

Rudy admitted to the biggest flip flop of all time........You rooted for the RED SOX !!! As a Sox fan I thnak you for the support, but That flop lost you my vote.    

Ya know, I think the people who need their heads checked are those who insult those who comment here based solely on the fact that they disagree with whom they have chosen as their preferred candidate.  And I am not talking only about the Hillary haters who accuse anyone posting favorable things about Hillary of being a paid operative, or stupid, or dishonest, or whatever else.  I'm talking about everyone (possibly myself included at times) who takes that jump from debating the issues and the candidates to insulting the person with whom they are debating.  

Isn't it time everyone grew up?  If this election is as important as everyone says it is, then wouldn't our time be better served discussing the issues and the candidates, and not lashing out at each other simply because we approach things from a different perspective and have different opinions?

Issues;

Repubs:Immigration-They're all criminals, Build fences along all of our borders lock them up and deport all 11 million. Exception:McCain
Dems:Something a little less radical.

Repubs:Taxes-Will never raise them, NO MATTER WHAT!, Eliminate the IRS (Huck and Paul) Exception:Hunter

Dems-Pay-Go, Eliminate Bush tax cuts to the top 1%.

Repubs:Iraq-Stay as long as needed, stay until we win, Let's go back and win Viet Nam (McCain)

Dems: Let's get out of there, as soon as is logistically possible.

Repubs: Health Care-Tax credits, trust the insurance companies, emergency rooms for the uninsured and if they're undocumented, lock them up and deport them. No plan for universal health coverage for the 40 million plus currently uninsured.
Dems-Some kind of universal health care plan, with some variations in implementation.

Repubs:Right to Choose, let's turn back the clock, let's overturn Roe V Wade, let each state decide. Exception:Rudy, though he promises to appoint judges who'll overturn it.
Dems: Support a woman's right to choose.

Repubs:Economy-Everything's GREAT!!! Exception: Huck.

Dems: Different plans to deal with the sub-prime mortgage crisis and to bolster the middle class, all including rolling back the Bush tax cuts.

Repubs: Torture-All except the guy who actually WAS tortured, mum on what it is.
Dems: Waterboarding IS torture.

Repubs: Gays in the military-Don't ask don't tell, they are a detriment, they don't belong.

Dems: Don't ask Don't tell...don't work.

So, to those DEMOCRATS who say they will vote republican if their guy/gal isn't the nominee; Which REPUBLICAN shares your views? Which DEMOCRAT doesn't?


Van

Amy B,

That woman that said Edwards was half looney. If you watched her and decided she was the person to base your own decision on or felt that she even understood the debate you need to learn to read people better.  

Have we sunk to voting for a president on the basis or humor, charm, and personality?  What about the real issues and throw in a little intelligence and leadership qualities.
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For the correct answer to this, please see:

UNITED STATES PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION 2000, 2004.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/

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Never mind. ok. hillaryclinton.com

It's ok to take a quick looksie..hillaryclinton.com

From left to Right:
Tancredo -- sincere one issue candidate -- does not get enough questions to determine breadth
Huckabee -- Governor -- good performance
Romney -- Governor -- Erratic cookie-cutter pol -- Fake
Giuliani -- Narcissist authoritarian -- Very scary -- Beware
Thompson -- Low key -- decent performance -- youTube video indicates that he is going to fight
McCain -- Erractic -- No coherent platform -- Anti-Torture message sincere and well delivered
Paul -- Intriguing -- Coherent -- Handled screwball questions exceptionally well -- appears to have breadth but does not get enough questions
Hunter -- appears to be one issue candidate -- does not get enough questions to determine breadth

There seems to be a definate bias against giving Tancredo, Paul, Hunter, and to some degree Thompson enough stage time relative to the "darlings."

The Republicans have no concept of the real America where white, brown, black, and red people try to cope with policies dictated by the rich ten percent, of corporate America. I listen to the debate & they are so out of step there in Bush's world. One thing they do know is to promote war and more war. The only true Republican is Ron Paul who believes in his country and the people who reside here. That crowd in Florida was so rude to him not even trying to listen to his response boo to you. There are two Americas, even John Edwards knows this and he is rich but he was poor once. Rommney comment on this was I hate it when he says that, why does he hate the truth? The rest of the pack just doesn't care one way or another. When asked what would Jesus do?(wwjd) I can tell you he would say love one another, because only he can can bring peace to mankind. Wake up you wanna be presidents it's over for you.

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