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Oh-eight (D): Hillary’s firewall?

Posted: Friday, November 30, 2007 9:10 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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As for the Brown & Black forum tomorrow night, the Iowa Independent reports that "concerns have emerged about the way it is being organized. The forum, which is the oldest minority-focused presidential debate in the country, is one of the great traditions of the Iowa Caucuses, but local activists and campaigns have been frustrated by this year's planning and execution."

Mainly, one Obama supporter believes the current chief organizers of this event, Wayne Ford and Mary Campos, are too aligned with Clinton. Reached for comment Thursday afternoon, the two organizers denied any allegations that they were favoring one candidate over others. "I don't think that question needs an answer," Ford said. "I am a little insulted that people would even think that," continued Campos.

BIDEN: The Nashua Telegraph: “Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden warned that if the Bush administration goes to war with Iran, Congress should impeach the president. The Delaware senator said under current circumstances, the president lacks Constitutional authority to attack Iran. He also criticized Republican and Democratic presidential candidates for their ‘fixation’ on what he called Iran's limited nuclear weapons capabilities.”

The Des Moines Register analyzes Biden’s “Joe is Right” Web video. “The problem with touting all the times you are right is that others can inevitably point to the times you weren't... Biden has admitted what some anti-war Democrats view as a crucial mistake: voting for the Iraq war… Still, others in the race -- Sen. Clinton, former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina and Sen. Chris Dodd of Connecticut -- all have admitted making the same error.”

CLINTON: The Boston Globe: "With Hillary Clinton faltering in polls leading up to the Iowa caucuses, the New Hampshire primary is looming as a possible make-or-break moment for her -- in a place where she has most of the party's key endorsements and a sizable lead in the polls, but where a defeat could be devastating." Of course, this next graph explains why she should be the favorite to win the primary. "Unlike in Iowa, where the major endorsements are split among several candidates, Clinton has the support of most of the Democratic party establishment in New Hampshire. She has other important advantages here that she lacks in Iowa, including a history of campaigning for her husband and New Hampshire's recent tradition of electing female politicians."

"But Obama's campaign has also stepped up its efforts and is preparing for a showdown as well. Obama's campaign said it has kept pace with Clinton's in paid staff and its volunteers are just as busy knocking on doors, making phone calls, and writing postcards."

The Washington Post front-pages the frustration the media is feeling when it comes to attempting to cover Clinton. "Clinton aides say they try to stage a ‘press avail,’ or brief news conference, every five or six days, but they acknowledge the schedule often slips. (Obama is also on a weekly schedule; Edwards, third in the national polls, is more accessible.)"

Clinton's campaign has been very adept at winning the support of prominent African-Americans. The latest feather in the campaign's cap: Jacqueline Jackson, mother of Jesse Jackson Jr., who has been cutting radio ads for Obama.

Clinton got "standing ovations" from evangelicals in her event with Rick Warren, the Orange County Register reports. Although all leading presidential candidates were invited, Clinton was the only one to show up for the annual Global Summit on AIDS and the Church. She delivered a bipartisan message that emphasized the role of the church in addressing AIDS. “Twenty five years ago when people – mostly young gay men – started dying of an unnamed disease, we didn't talk about it in church,” she said. “We've come a long way. Not only can we talk about AIDS in church, but churches can lead the way.”

"Last year, Warren welcomed Democratic Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois to the stage at Saddleback, and this year, the minister invited all the presidential candidates in both parties to address his congregation on the HIV pandemic. With just five weeks until voting begins in the presidential nominating contest, only Clinton came in person; Republicans Mike Huckabee, John McCain and Mitt Romney and Democrats Obama and John Edwards addressed the congregation through videos."

In an interview with C-SPAN, Bill Clinton talks a bit about the records issue. “‘I want this stuff out there. Some of it may be misused, and some people may want it for reasons that are not entirely academic, but that’s OK,’ he said. ‘I want the records out there.’ ‘The public has to know, they’re not my records,’ he continued. ‘They belong to, and [are] under the jurisdiction of the Archives. But I have the power to keep all of them closed for 12 years. I didn’t do that. We’ve released about a million pages already.’”

Clinton explained some of the possible reasons for delay. “‘If there was a private cell phone number there, the archivist has to go through and mark that out for privacy reasons, just on the off chance that they still have the same cell phone number,’ he said. ‘If there were the names of Secret Service agents or a list in questionable places of how many agents were there, they mark that out so they won’t be giving deployment information.” More: “‘Those are their rules, not mine,’ he added. ‘And I get why they do it. But we’re not trying to hold up anything… I think we have to follow the law. They’re not my records, and it’s not my law.”

So why didn't more folks assume the RFK Jr. endorsement of Clinton had something to do with winning favor with someone who might have some say in who replaces her in the Senate... hmmmm

EDWARDS: The candidate yesterday talked up the penalties he'll impose on Americans if they choose not to get health insurance under his plan if it's passed. “‘My health-care plan requires responsibility from everybody. The government’s responsible, the individual’s responsible, the workers are responsible, and the employers are responsible… ‘So if you don’t have health-care coverage, and you go to the emergency room, you get enrolled. If you’re a 5- or 6-year-old and you go to kindergarten or sign up for school, you get enrolled, if you’re not on a health-care plan. If you go the library, you get picked up.’”

The Des Moines Register looks at “The Evolution of John Edwards.” “John Edwards tells voters that there are still two Americas. What Iowa caucusgoers must decide is if there are two John Edwardses. Four years ago, the fresh-faced then-North Carolina senator defended his support for the Iraq war, prescribed a gradual approach to health care reform and told Iowa caucusgoers not to expect him to criticize his fellow Democrats running for president. Today, he calls his Iraq vote a mistake, embraces universal health care and regularly attacks party front-runner Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York.”

OBAMA: Here’s a report of Obama scheduled coffee meeting with Michael Bloomberg this morning.

It was Showtime at the Apollo last night for Obama. "The event, held in what is perhaps Harlem’s most famous landmark, was symbolic not only because of the site but also because it took place in Mrs. Clinton’s backyard -- and at a theater only a few blocks west on 125th Street from the offices of former President Bill Clinton."

The New York Post found one Obama quote they viewed as a shot at Clinton: “‘Telling the American people what we think they want to hear instead of what they need to hear just won't do" in this election, Obama said at the historic theater, just down the street from Bill Clinton's office."

NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan was on the scene, and she says some of the most memorable lines of the evening were not delivered Obama -- but rather by Chris Rock, who introduced the candidate. Urging the audience to support Obama, Rock teased the crowd,  "Progressive people want to be on the right side of history, because you'd be real embarrassed if he won and you weren't down with him… ‘I can’t call him now I was with that white lady what was I thinking what was I thinking?’”

Rock went on to belittle President Bush and compared the way the federal government handled its response to the wild fires in California to the emergency response in Katrina. "This is how [Bush] dealt with catastrophe. The fires in LA, he was there the next day," Rock said. "White people burning he was there. Black people drowning he don't care… He was putting out the fires with Katrina water!"

The crowd went crazy, and when Obama took the stage he joked that it wasn't always a good thing to follow the likes of not only Chris Rock, but also academic Cornell West who had previously spoken.  The only other well-known VIP to attend the event was rapper Q-Tip, who never took the stage. Speaking for about half an hour, Obama stuck to a speech that he has delivered before in South Carolina on why he's running for office with a new kind of politics. He repeated lines such as "textbook" and "poll-driven" when talking about how the country needs a new direction, but largely stayed away from either contrasting his positions or attacking his fellow Democrats.

Anburajan notes, however, that the real political story may have happened a few hours before Obama’s appearance at the Apollo Theater. Yesterday, Obama sat down to have dinner with Al Sharpton at Sylvia's Restaurant, a Harlem institution. The two glad-handed with diners, and Obama even carried a baby before he and the reverend sat down for some soul food. Obama had shown up at Sharpton's office just a few blocks away and had asked the reverend to come and have dinner with him at Slyvia's so they could "talk" about the importance of hate crime legislation. The Obama campaign made sure to invite the New York and the national press along to photograph the event.

“’A man who likes fried chicken and corn bread can't be all that bad,’ Sharpton declared with a smile after he and the Illinois senator dined at Sylvia's Restaurant in Harlem. Asked if he would endorse Obama over Sen. Hillary Clinton, Sharpton replied, ‘I haven't made a decision yet.’”

The Washington Post's Solomon has another follow-up on the story about Obama's leadership PAC and the donations it's made over the last few months. "Obama's presidential campaign helped recommend several of the donations his political action committee made in recent months to politicians in key primary states as the campaign was working to secure endorsements, campaign officials said yesterday. The acknowledgment alters the campaign's original account of how donations were directed and raised questions among some legal experts about whether the presidential committee was using Obama's leadership PAC to benefit his campaign. The Obama campaign said it is confident it complied with the law."

"An Obama campaign spokesman last week said that ‘there is no connection’ between the PAC donations and the presidential campaign. But Bob Bauer, the private counsel for both Obama's campaign and Hopefund, said yesterday that campaign workers were involved over the summer in identifying and recommending possible recipients when Hopefund was deciding how to spend its remaining money. In particular, Bauer said, senior campaign strategist Steve Hildebrand was consulted ‘multiple times’ on potential donations.”

Somehow, we’re starting to think that Paul Krugman doesn’t like Barack Obama. A couple of weeks ago, it was on Social Security. Today, it’s on health care. "Obama, then, is wrong on policy. Worse yet, the words he uses to defend his position make him sound like Rudy Giuliani inveighing against ‘socialized medicine’: he doesn’t want the government to ‘force’ people to have insurance, to 'penalize' people who don’t participate. I recently castigated Mr. Obama for adopting right-wing talking points about a Social Security ‘crisis.’ Now he’s echoing right-wing talking points on health care." 

Meanwhile, it looks like Doug Wilder is up to his old games. After previously hinting he may endorse Obama, he issued a statement this week that he's still neutral. (Let us guess: Obama hasn't called Wilder in a while and the former Virginia governor -- and now Richmond mayor -- isn't happy about that. Or maybe Obama's campaign didn't agree to a major event in Richmond. Or maybe...)

RICHARDSON: S.R. Sidarth -- a.k.a. "Macaca," the Jim Webb volunteer who was filming George Allen when the Republican uttered that now infamous slur -- has signed up to work for Bill Richardson.

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biden's position of being right in these debates is not in question even by the other candidates. their characterization of joe being wrong was his vote on funding war without withdrawal date. as a vet i support joe's position to fund ied safe vehicles rather than use the troops as a political pawn and defenseless.
On the Hopefund PAC story, I am glad that the Obama campaign has looked into this situation and clarified how the money was distributed. I still don't see anything wrong with what was done, but whatever happened, I feel better knowing the truth.

The truth is ALWAYS the best policy. I feel the Senator Obama will continue to apply that principle in his Administration as well. Maybe thats what people mean with all the "holier than though" stuff that is posted all the time - he is not your typical politician.
The impeachment of Bush or Cheney Should be done now; knowing the how this administration had broken of the rules and bypassing our constitution I have no doubt that is in the plan of Bush/Cheney to start a War with Iran right in the middle of the 2008 elections. The war on Iran will be part of the strategy for keeping the right wing republican in power. They will claim that changing administration while the nation is in war will be too dangerous; that in order to win against the possible attack from Iran with nuclear weapons we nee to maintain republican in power.
I don't trust Bush/ Cheney they both have a plan to bankrupt the nation because is the best way to introduce an elite run government.
I would pay real money to be Hillary's firewall!
Firewall? or a campaign that's burning to the ground??
http://unitedagainsthillary.wordpress.com
In truly amazing news for the Obama camp, he now leads in new Iowa poll released this morning by ARG: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2007/11/arg-releases-its-monthly-wave-of-early.html
Good for you, Joe!  Everyone says the comment will sink you as a Sec'y of State or something in a Dem administration, but, Why?  Joe's the man who knows foreign policy!  He should be listened to!
'...Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden warned that if the Bush administration goes to war with Iran, Congress should impeach the president....'


JOE IS RIGHT !!!
Thank you Joe !!
NO EXCISE FOR WAR !!
Warn Bush AHEAD OF TIME !!


'...The Delaware senator said under current circumstances, the president lacks Constitutional authority to attack Iran...'


JOE IS RIGHT !!
Thank you Joe !!

'...He also criticized Republican and Democratic presidential candidates for their ‘fixation’ on what he called Iran's limited nuclear weapons capabilities.”...'

JOE IS RIGHT !!!
What do you say, Obama ?
What do you say, Edwards ?
What do you say, Clinton ?
What do you say, Dodd ?
What do you say, Richardson ?
What do you say, Kucinich ?

Answers, please !!
You're all running for President !!
Why is a nuclear Iran such a 'threat' ?
JOE IS RIGHT !!
It's funny to watch the NY media go nuts over bloomberg and Obama having breakfast.  amazing.
I heard the Apollo was a good night.
Clinton is pulling out her bag of dirty tricks now that she is falling like a lead balloon in the polls.
It is fun to watch because she is taking on this air of desperation.  Not the cool customer running until a month ago.  since then she has beeing mostly reacting and lashing out and trying desperately to hang on
i forgot to ask you at First Read.  Why in the world doesnt' the press just ignore clinton for awhile if she is being difficult.  Stop following her, covering her for a few days or talking about her.
I think then the press and Hillary will discover that she needs the press alot more than the press needs her.
'...The Boston Globe: "With Hillary Clinton faltering in polls leading up to the Iowa caucuses, the New Hampshire primary is looming as a possible make-or-break moment for her -- in a place where she has most of the party's key endorsements and a sizable lead in the polls, but where a defeat could be devastating....'

Now you know why the Clinton Cult is so desperate !!
Now you know why Hillary is so desperate !!
She can't handle this campaign by herself, so she's calling in Bill to protect her from 'the big boys' who are 'picking on her' ;-0

Hillay Bo Peep has lost her sheep
and doesn't knw wher to find them

THROW THE BUMS OUT !!
DON'T BRING THE BUMS BACK !!
obama and company whining and whining again!

Geez, he's almost ready to learn to stand up and pee
I wonder what all you democrats who are Hillary Haters will do should she win?  I know many of us who are undecided, and many Hillary supporters, would definately support any democrat. Because let's face it, any of them would be better than any of those blowhards on the other side.

So, are you perpetual Hillary haters on this site going to support some neo-con nut like Romney, Thompson or Guilliani should Hill squeak this one out?  You guys know, that's a good possibility, right?
I would pay real money to be Hillary's firewall!

jerry/corpus christi, tx (Sent Friday, November 30, 2007 10:28 AM)

Here is a penny.....
Good for you, Joe!  Everyone says the comment will sink you as a Sec'y of State or something in a Dem administration, but, Why?  Joe's the man who knows foreign policy!  He should be listened to!

Class Warrior, D.C.

Joe Biden, if he is not the nominee, will not be in any ones cabinet. If you don't believe him, when he says he won't, then you don't know Joe. What ever someone may think about Joe Biden, few if any people don't believe he is a man of his word. Joe has said he would have been Kerry's secretary of state, because of their relationship. He knew what that position would entail, he will not be secretary of state for any of the candidates running. Nor will he be anyones VP.
I wonder what all you democrats who are Hillary Haters will do should she win?  I know many of us who are undecided, and many Hillary supporters, would definately support any democrat. Because let's face it, any of them would be better than any of those blowhards on the other side.

So, are you perpetual Hillary haters on this site going to support some neo-con nut like Romney, Thompson or Guilliani should Hill squeak this one out?  You guys know, that's a good possibility, right?
Amazed, Atlanta (Sent Friday, November 30, 2007 11:12 AM)

I would openly support Giuliani or McCain over the Clinton Machine.  Especially McCain.  

Barack Obama '08!
"I wonder what all you democrats who are Hillary Haters will do should she win?  I know many of us who are undecided, and many Hillary supporters, would definately support any democrat. * * *

Amazed, Atlanta "

I know very few Democrats who won't support who ever is the nominee. However, I do know a few who will either vote for the Green party or some other candidate for President. But the over whelming number of Democrats will vote for the Democrat, that's a given. The concern is how many independents will vote for Clinton if she's the nominee, because the Democrats and GOP don't decide the election that is decided by the independents and that is why Clinton's negatives are so important!
Amazed, Atlanta:

If Hillary gets the nomination I will support the most qualified candidate.  If the Republican nominee is McCain - I will support him.

Qualifications and Experience are what I base my decisions on.
I've seen Hillary's firewall.....

CNN showed it 5-6 times during one debate........

down south......
You at First Read have to realize that is sounds much more prescient having Joe Biden threaten the 'I' word than any other candidate, right? Anything this guy says is taken with much more solidity than any other candidate. With that said, his stances on foreign policy and chances of winning should be taken as much more solid.
You gave a very incomplete report, and wrong impression, of  The Des Moines Register article on John Edwards by only suggesting that he appears different in 2008 than in 2004, whereas the article clearly explains Edwards’ evolution:

"Eric Johnson, an undecided Democrat from Iowa City, said the changes he sees in Edwards seem to have mirrored the growing discontent of Democrats, and voters in general, since the 2004 election.

For example, Americans were evenly divided about four years ago about President Bush's handling of the Iraq war, which was then less than a year under way. Today, polls show nearly two-thirds of Americans disapprove of it.

The narrow majority of Americans who believed it was the federal government's responsibility to make sure people have health insurance has grown in the past four years to roughly two-thirds.

‘The political climate is more open to solutions that might have been deemed politically unpalatable," said Johnson, a University of Iowa graduate student who is considering supporting Edwards in the caucuses. "I'm glad to see him taking advantage of that climate. I'm glad to see what I see as an evolution in his thinking.’

Edwards readily says he was a more careful candidate in 2004. And while he dismisses the idea that he has lurched to the left out of political expedience, he contends that the issues that dominated the 2004 campaign now warrant bolder solutions.”
Saying that Krugman "doesn't like Barack" is an unfair summary of Krugman's article on Obama's Health Care plan, which correctly critiques the plan as being inadequate. It is not a personal attack.  Krugman asserts that by not covering everyone, we will not have an affordable universal healthcare plan:

"And it’s not just a matter of principle. As a practical matter, letting people opt out if they don’t feel like buying insurance would make insurance substantially more expensive for everyone else.

Here’s why: under the Obama plan, as it now stands, healthy people could choose not to buy insurance — then sign up for it if they developed health problems later. Insurance companies couldn’t turn them away, because Mr. Obama’s plan, like those of his rivals, requires that insurers offer the same policy to everyone.

As a result, people who did the right thing and bought insurance when they were healthy would end up subsidizing those who didn’t sign up for insurance until or unless they needed medical care.

In other words, when Mr. Obama declares that “the reason people don’t have health insurance isn’t because they don’t want it, it’s because they can’t afford it,” he’s saying something that is mostly true now — but wouldn’t be true under his plan.. .

Third, and most troubling, Mr. Obama accuses his rivals of not explaining how they would enforce mandates, and suggests that the mandate would require some kind of nasty, punitive enforcement: “Their essential argument,” he says, “is the only way to get everybody covered is if the government forces you to buy health insurance. If you don’t buy it, then you’ll be penalized in some way.”

Well, John Edwards has just called Mr. Obama’s bluff, by proposing that individuals be required to show proof of insurance when filing income taxes or receiving health care. If they don’t have insurance, they won’t be penalized — they’ll be automatically enrolled in an insurance plan.

That’s actually a terrific idea — not only would it prevent people from gaming the system, it would have the side benefit of enrolling people who qualify for S-chip and other government programs, but don’t know it."
Yo Amazed, Don't we have the right to vent about what we feel is an ultra perpetration of fraud by any candidate, knowing fully well that when the hour arrives we'll vote for said candidate over that of the opposition party even if we're holding our nose in doing so? It's called politics and the opinions of one concerning politians at a point in time.

Stop with the whining about people's opinions. It's un-American and you sound bad.
Obama is NOT surging in Iowa!  it's basically a 3-way tie - and Edwards leads considering he leads among independents and as 2nd choice.
"Well, John Edwards has just called Mr. Obama’s bluff, by proposing that individuals be required to show proof of insurance when filing income taxes or receiving health care. If they don’t have insurance, they won’t be penalized — they’ll be automatically enrolled in an insurance plan. "

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

How is that calling Obama's "bluff"?  They will be automatically enrolled in an insurance plan and required to pay the premium, whether they can afford it or not! DUH! And when the bill comes and they don't pay, then what? How much money will be spent trying to make them pay? Probably more than the cost of the medical procedures they needed I'm betting.

No matter how much smoke is spread around this issue, the simple truth is the healthcare mandate is a BAD IDEA. We don't need more DEBTORS . . . we need more affordable healthcare. This disnigenuous semantics game is pretty pathetic.
Is it true that Giulliani met his first wife at a family reunion?
Anita, Tifton, GA

Anita, without realizing it you just hit on the problem with caucus polling. You say Edwards leads among independents. Do you have any idea how few independents ever attend an Iowa caucus?  I know a few that are caucusing for Biden, as well as a few Republicans who are caucusing for Biden, but caucusing is a time consuming process that few Democrats, and even fewer Republicans ever engage in. Caucus attendance among registered Democrats has never reached 21%, and attendance on the GOP end has been even lower. Statistically very few people who are currently registered independent, or GOP will attend the Democratic caucus, they legally can attend, the only requirement is to be a US citizen, a resident of Iowa and 18 by 11/4/ 08.  If you aren't already a registered Democrat you register as a Democrat at the caucus, and if you want after the caucus you can change your party affiliation back to GOP or Independent. There will be some registered Independent at the caucuses, but their total number, and as a percent of total Democratic caucus goers will be very small.

To include registered independents in a Democratic caucus poll is an indication the polling company has no clue, and is one more reason why that particular poll would be a joke.

That being said. I don't know if Obama is or isn't surging. I do know that Edwards has a strong base, stronger than either Obama or Clinton, and his base has more prior caucus attendee's the best indicator of caucus attendance, but Edwards base has not grown  from 04, and actually a sizable number of 04 supporters are supporting other candidates, and a sizable number are still undecided. Some will end up with Edwards, if they don't find a viable alternative to Clinton. Any 04 Edwards supporter who will support Clinton at the caucus is already supporting her, they would be part of the chunk of 04 supporters that Edwards can't recapture. On the ground it is clear his campaign has been stagnant, and it's clear that Hillary has always had an "Iowa problem". This isn't new, but the media is just figuring it out, because they rely on polls, that they know, or should know are inaccurate.
Is it true that Giulliani met his first wife at a family reunion?

JLB Alabama

No he married his second cousin, Regina Peruggi, who according to the Priest who married them, (Alan Placa- who is on leave as a Priest due to allegations of sexual misconduct with children)Rudy and Regina spent summers at Rudy's grandmothers beach home. Regina was the daughter of Rudy's Dad's first cousin. They were married 14 years!
Hillary needs a firewall, this is a woman that was stealing the Whitehouse furniture, while Bill was pardoning Drug dealers for large sums of money to be used for Hillary s Senate run in new york and his library which holds Hillarys records as first lady which she wont release, makes me sick that some people want them in the Whitehouse. Is morality a lost word in America?
Hillary needs a firewall, this is a woman that was stealing the Whitehouse furniture, while Bill was pardoning Drug dealers for large sums of money to be used for Hillary s Senate run in new york and his library which holds Hillarys records as first lady which she wont release, makes me sick that some people want them in the Whitehouse. Is morality a lost word in America?
"Well, John Edwards has just called Mr. Obama’s bluff, by proposing that individuals be required to show proof of insurance when filing income taxes or receiving health care. If they don’t have insurance, they won’t be penalized — they’ll be automatically enrolled in an insurance plan. "

Do you all realize this is just the beginnings of a "nanny" government?  Do you really want the government to have a hand in YOUR health and care thereof?
Anyone looking for some new Hillary video from an SC stop and an interesting commentary on how race is impacting that primary should try: http://goupstate.us/index.php/lanefiller/2007/11/27/hillary_and_the_black_men_of_god
Hillary's been touting her healthcare plan as superior to Senator Barack Obama's, and even went so far as to call Obama's plan a "betrayal" of Democratic values. But let's get real-- Hillarycare can't cover any American if it doesn't pass Congress. When universal healthcare is signed into law, it will be the largest expansion of government power since social security passed in 1935. And let's be honest-- does anyone believe Hillary can build the build a bipartisan majority in Congress necessary to pass her insurance plan?

My firm belief, as a Democrat, is that Hillary Clinton cannot pass universal healthcare.

But let's get to this "mandate" nonsense. Senator Clinton is arguing that the only way to get every American covered is if you force every American to buy healthcare. Unfortunately, she hasn't told anybody how she would enforce this mandate. So until she clarifies what exactly she intends to do to enforce this mandate -- for example, whether she is going to fine people -- her attacks on Obama are more about scoring political points than making a real point.

The truth is, Barack Obama's universal health care plan makes coverage affordable for every single American, he just doesn't agree with Hillary's plan to start by forcing everyone to buy insurance they can't afford.

I think the real question is who can stand up to the special interests, bring Republicans and Democrats together, and actually make their plan a reality? Barack Obama is in the best position to do that because unlike Senator Clinton, he's been standing up to the special interests and bringing people together throughout his career.
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So now we have HC splashed all over the news for her 'cool' handling of the hostage situation in NH.  I bet when someone really starts digging--they will find out it was a set-up by the HC campaign workers and of course she knew nothing about it!!!


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