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Oh-eight (D): Hsu revisited

Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:13 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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BIDEN: Biden said illegal immigration is a problem that starts in Mexico. "They're being irresponsible,” Biden said of Mexico while in Iowa. “This is the second-wealthiest nation in the hemisphere - we're not talking about Sierra Leone. This is a dysfunctional society."

CLINTON: Former congressman -- and presidential candidate -- Dick Gephardt campaigned with Clinton yesterday. 

Apparently, Clinton's campaign in Nevada is using the names of a couple of union members without permission. "The latest twist in an ongoing fight over the backing" of the Nevada SEIU.

The timing of the latest Norman Hsu story in the Los Angeles Times isn't coming at a great time for the Clinton campaign, as it begins to raise questions about Obama's campaign finance issues. "Documents obtained by the Los Angeles Times show how Hsu's business associates traded on his connections -- going so far as to claim that former President Clinton was a Hsu client -- to lure investors into a scheme that took in tens of millions of dollars nationwide. A marketing brochure distributed by an Orange County firm to attract investors to Hsu's business claimed the 56-year-old Hong Kong native's ‘extensive political investment community includes former President Bill Clinton, who continues to invest to this day.’”

“Howard Wolfson, a Clinton spokesman, denied that the former president had invested with Hsu. And Sen. Clinton's financial disclosure statements show no investments or income from Hsu for her or her husband."

The Clinton camp is rolling out a policy initiative today, but who knows how much attention it will get. "Clinton Monday will call for a 90-day moratorium on foreclosures on homes with subprime mortgages and a five-year freeze on the interest rates those borrowers must pay. In a letter to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, who is poised to announce the Bush administration's response to the housing troubles today, Clinton warns that foreclosures threaten to cause ‘incalculable’ cost to the economy."

EDWARDS: Edwards has nabbed the endorsement of fellow trial lawyer and freshman Iowa congressman Bruce Braley (D). "He is the first of Iowa’s three Democratic members of Congress to announce his endorsement. The value of any endorsement is always an open question, but as Mr. Edwards seeks to compete for attention and support with Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama, this rollout signals the beginning of an intense final month of the Iowa caucus campaign."

NBC/NJ's Tricia Miller was with Edwards in Iowa yesterday. At one event, following a question on immigration, a man near the back of the gathering told the former senator that he wanted to support a credible candidate, and asked whether his promise to withdraw members of Congress’ health care if they don’t pass universal health care was credible. “Hundred percent credible,” Edwards replied. “The president has veto authority over the budget, number one. Number two, the president has the bully pulpit… If the president of the United States submits legislation to the Congress saying if you have not passed universal health care by July of 2009 that the politicians lose their healthcare, think about this with me: First of all, every Democrat is for it because they’re for universal health care, so we’re talking about the Republicans. I want to see a Republican senator or congressman who takes the position that they’re going to defend their health care and vote against health care for their constituents, because I will go to their congressional district as president, and I will go to their state if they’re a senator and make sure that every voter in their state knows they’re protecting themselves against the people they represent.”

Edwards is up with a new TV ad in New Hampshire, the AP reports. “Edwards on Monday planned to air a television ad in New Hampshire that blames lobbyists for keeping 47 millions Americans without health insurance… ‘You're going to sit at a table with drug companies and oil companies and they're going to give away their power. Right,' Edwards says as the ad shows voters laughing at his sarcasm. ‘You have to take their power away from them. There's nothing we can't do - if we do it together.’” 

OBAMA: If there is one thing Iowan's don't like, it's shenanigans. The Des Moines Register's Yepsen has a VERY provocative headline, "The Illinois Caucus." The piece is about a brochure the Obama camp is passing out explaining to out-of-state Iowa college students that they can participate in the caucuses as long as they register to vote in Iowa. Yepsen: "While it’s legal for college students to register to vote in Iowa to do that, this raises the question of whether it’s fair, or politically smart. No presidential campaign in memory has ever made such a large, open attempt to encourage students from out of state, many of whom pay out-of-state tuition, to participate in the caucuses. No other campaign appears to be doing it in this campaign cycle."

Didn't Paul Simon, Dick Gephardt, and Walter Mondale all have similar efforts in '84 and '88? All three were from adjacent states. That said, this piece is going to grow in legend. This is the type of stuff the Clinton-supporting blogs will run wild with.

The Sunday New York Times looked at the Obama campaign's stepped up efforts to target women. "This week the Obama campaign held a wave of house parties focused on women in early voting states; Mrs. Obama bluntly told 700 women activists linked by conference call Wednesday night, ‘We need you guys.’ The campaign also announced that Oprah Winfrey, cultural arbiter for millions of women, will join the cause in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina next weekend."

It may have been a coincidence, but Obama was in Boston last night rallying supporters and asking for Massachusetts residents to cross the border and help him in New Hampshire. "I just got back from Iowa, where it appears we're doing pretty good," Obama told the crowd of nearly 2,000 people who had braved snow and below freezing temperatures to hear him speak. "It's amazing how you go from being D.O.A. to being a genius in about three weeks. But right now we're doing pretty good in Iowa, and we're doing pretty good in New Hampshire, because the American people are ready for change and this campaign is about change that you can believe in."

NBC/NJ's Adam Aigner-Treworgy reports: Scattered throughout the crowd in the large Park Plaza Castle were nearly 50 volunteers with clipboards taking down contact information for supporters who were interested in traveling to New Hampshire and canvassing for Obama. A pair of volunteers who stood out in the cold recruiting canvassers as they waited in line to get into the event had each come from nearly an hour outside of Boston to help signup more volunteers.

More frontrunner-like scrutiny for Obama: The AP takes another look at Obama's relationship with lobbyists while he was in the Illinois senate. Obama did nothing illegal with lobbyists, though his actions in the Illinois senate appear to contradict some of his current rhetoric, which is the point of this piece.

RICHARDSON: At the Iowa Brown & Black forum, the “most humorous exchange of the night,” the Des Moines Register’s Yepsen writes, “was when Bill Richardson smiled and asked Hillary Clinton if governors make good presidents. Cute question. She smiled, let the laughter subside, and replied they also make good vice presidents. The crowd loved it and it’s likely to renew speculation he’s angling to be her vice presidential pick.”

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Hillary lecturing Obama on campaign finance ethics is like Rudy Guiliani lecturing us on marriage and fidelity...
Let me see if I understand this.  Young people are criticized for NOT VOTING.  Most of the students that go to school in Iowa and plan to caucus there had made that decision before Iowa moved up its date.  Its probably to late for them to register now in their hometowns...so they should lose their vote?  Iowa doesn't have absentee voting.

Would people be complaining if they had the support of "Tommorrow's Future"  probably not.  So their arguement is let's prevent them from voting..is that called disenfranchisement...good strategy.


Regarding campaign finance...hillary doesn't want to go there :


Just thought i'd provide some facts on the HillPAC and other Clinton related funds that they have used to buy political support. The hypocrisy of the Clinton campaign is astonishing… like Obama said.. they are stressing at the thought of someone else gaining the confidence of America…I thought Hillary wasn't interested in attacking other democrats… I guess something is indeed worrying her…
Hopefund Donated $4,200 to Clinton. Hopefund made two separate donations of $2,100 each to Friends of Hillary in 2005. [FEC, accessed 12/2/07]
Clinton Used Foundation to Make Early State Donation. "And just this week, no doubt unintentionally, she stumbled on another way to leverage non-campaign cash into a political benefit in a primary state when money from the Clinton Family Foundation, the Clintons' family-funded charity that has given them tax write-offs since 2001, popped up to provide an assist. On Tuesday, during a swing through the hotly-contested early primary state of South Carolina, Hillary presented a $100,000 gift from the foundation to help build a new public library in poor, rural Marlboro County, South Carolina." [Newsday, 11/29/07]
Clinton Used HillPAC To Pay Employees of Presidential Campaign In January of 2007. Clinton used HillPAC to pay four members of her campaign staff in 2007, when her presidential campaign was in its formative stages. Patti Solis Doyle received $42,165 in wages and consulting fees; Heather Hurlburt received $6693 in consulting fees; Judith Litchman received $4368 in consulting fees, and Peter Daou received $3971 in consulting fees. All four of those people are now on Clinton's presidential campaign. Patti Solis Doyle received her first paycheck from the campaign on 2/2/07, as did Peter Daou; Heather Hurlburt and Judith Lichtman received their first consulting payments on the same date. [FEC, accessed 11/27/07]
Clinton Used HillPAC to Donate $234,000 to Early States Since 2001; $59,000 In Donations Made In 2006. Clinton gave $234,000 from HillPAC to the early primary states of Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina since 2001. Almost $60,000 in donations, including money to the Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina Democratic Parties, Governor John Lynch, and Governor Chet Culver, were made during 2006. [FEC, accessed 11/27/07


Or how about Vilsack:

http://www.kcci.com/politics/11407584/detail.html?rss=des&psp=news
Sen. Clinton To Pay Off Vilsack's Campaign Debt
Details Have To Be Worked Out
POSTED: 6:31 pm CDT March 27, 2007
UPDATED: 6:53 pm CDT March 27, 2007

DES MOINES, Iowa -- Former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack gave Sen. Hillary Clinton his endorsement for her presidential campaign.
The Clinton campaign has promised Vilsack to help pay off a $400,000 campaign debt he built up during his run for the White House.
A representative for Clinton's campaign said they are not sure how their campaign will do that. They concede that at some point, Clinton will have to contact her supporters.

The campaign said there is no connection between Vilsack's endorsement and their commitment to help pay off his campaign debt.


Hillary YOU WON"T WIN A CHARACTER ISSUE

Clinton is raising character issues while Hsu is rearing his ugly head.  
that is rich.
what the press is making a big deal of in regard to college kids is that most of them live in Iowa for now and go home during the holidays.  He is basically wanting them to come back to Iowa early to caucus for him.
No big deal.


Hillary lecturing Obama on campaign finance is like Tony Soprano lecturing us about law and Order. This weekend signal the beginning of the end of Clinton's dynasty.

To make matter worst Hillary Clinton's campaign is questioning Obama's character...lol...Perhaps, Hillary forgot that those that live in a glass house shouldn't throw a stone. If there is someone that should be lecturing us about character, it ain’t Hillary Clinton.

This is going to be the sweetest week ever. Finally, the inevitability argument is done; I wonder what the belt way boys will say next.

again biden hits the nail on the head, immigration is the result of mexico's problems. this should come as no surprise as we've outsourced significant jobs there. they pay sweat shop wages with no benefits and have no environmental restrictions like corperations must comply with in US. illegals can still do better by crossing the border, so we lose both ways. we lost our jobs to outsourcing and pay the cost of illegals in house. biden's right on foreign affairs so while these lightweights discuss bs issues they avoid the root of the problem, and you people relegate him yo the lower tier! don't you get tired of hearing you candidates sing refrains of "joe's right" when you could for biden. stop biding your time waiting for a candidate to lead. stop biding, vote joe biden.
For everyone interested in the Hsu story, including First Read, I wonder if they are as interested in the Abramoff story?
Abramoff is actually sitting in jail right now because he was charged, indicted, and convicted of buying access to politicians. One of the politicians who is CURRENTLY refusing to give up his records of visits from said felon Jack Abramoff?
George W. Bush.
The irony of Republicans whining about Hsu is astounding. Five Republicans are sitting in jail right now because of Abramoff... and -- yes -- more to come in 2008!
iowan out of state students can register to vote the same day of the caucus.
So what you're saying Jan is corrupt Republicans go to jail, and corrupt democrats run for President? Boy the Clinton Cult is really desperate.
Let me see if I understand this.  Young people are criticized for NOT VOTING.

I remember it was supposed to the young people that John Kerry was depending on to help him beat President Bush in 2004.  Lot of good that did him....


A marketing brochure distributed by an Orange County firm to attract investors to Hsu's business claimed the 56-year-old Hong Kong native's ‘extensive political investment community includes former President Bill Clinton, who continues to invest to this day.’”

I'll bet Hillary is just beating her husband to death over that bit of news.....
I'm sure the DA will over Hsu a deal in exchange for some great info about Hillary.....


Abramoff is actually sitting in jail right now because he was charged, indicted, and convicted of buying access to politicians. One of the politicians who is CURRENTLY refusing to give up his records of visits from said felon Jack Abramoff?
George W. Bush.

well, Jan in NH.....
In the interest of fair and balanced news......
let's invite the Senate Majority leader into the Abramoff debate here....


WASHINGTON (AP) - Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid wrote at least four letters helpful to Indian tribes represented by Jack Abramoff, and the senator's staff regularly had contact with the disgraced lobbyist's team about legislation affecting other clients.

The activities—detailed in billing records and correspondence obtained by The Associated Press—are far more extensive than previously disclosed. They occurred over three years as Reid collected nearly $68,000 in donations from Abramoff's firm, lobbying partners and clients.






http://www.statelibrary.sc.gov/news-room/press-releases/clintons-give-100000-to-south-carolina-library.html

Speaking of campaign finance, is Clinton trying to buy votes in South Carolina?  Why did the Clintons donate $100,000 at the end of July to a South Carolina public library?  Sounds like someone's trying to buy votes, a bit hypocritical of her to erroneously slander Obama's clean Hope Fund when she's doing stuff like this...
Let me get this straight, Obama is bussing people in to Iowa so they can vote in the caucases and people think this is okay?

Hillary will drop out if it looks like a Grand Jury will start investigating her, she does not want to land in Prison, there wil be no more documents showing up on the dining room table 2 years after they were subpeonaed like there was while she was co-president
Let me get this straight, Obama is bussing people in to Iowa so they can vote in the caucases and people think this is okay?

Jenny, Scottsdale, Az (Sent Monday, December 03, 2007 11:46 AM)

As long as you are trying to get it straight, let me fill you in. He is not "bussing" anyone into Iowa. He's encouraging students who go to school in Iowa - thereby, living in Iowa - to participate.
Let me get this straight, Obama is bussing people in to Iowa so they can vote in the caucases and people think this is okay?

Jenny, Scottsdale, Az (Sent Monday, December 03, 2007 11:46 AM)


I really hope people in Iowa aren't that stupid to allow that.  Hopefully they are checking drivers licenses (not the one's Hillary gave 5 answers to either).
Jerry - this blog topic must be like Christmas come early for you. Enjoy.
Jerry - this blog topic must be like Christmas come early for you. Enjoy.

Lee in CA (Sent Monday, December 03, 2007 1:27 PM)


Christmas will come when she finally gives up.
iowan out of state students can register to vote the same day of the caucus.

ace p washington, d.c.

Very few students from out of state will go back to their college town (where they have a residence and can legally register to vote) on 1/3/08, especially given it's during the Orange bowl. At U of I a large number of out of state students already registered in Iowa City, because of a city ordinance that would have prohibited 18-20 year olds at bars.

It's unlikely many college students will travel to their college weeks before school re-opens to caucus.

Anyone interested in a very different story (and analysis) on illegal immigration should try:
http://goupstate.us/index.php/lanefiller/2007/11/14/the_illegal_immigrant_next_door
Dear Norman <stop>. Falling behind in the race <stop> Need money and lots of it <stop> Your friend HR <stop>
Dear Hillary <stop> Will help when I can <stop> Can you get husband to give retroactive pardon? <stop> Looking forward to your answer <stop> Please help asap - these guys in jail with me are huge <stop> And I don't mean tall <stop>


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