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The battle for Iowa

Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:17 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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Today’s Washington Post headline says it all: "Losing Ground in Iowa, Clinton Assails Obama." From the story: "Clinton has hammered Obama recently over his health-care proposal, arguing that he is misleading voters because it omits millions of people and would not lower costs. But Sunday, in a dramatic shift, she made it clear that her goal is to challenge Obama not just on policy but also on one of his strongest selling points: his reputation for honesty. ‘There's a big difference between our courage and our convictions, what we believe and what we're willing to fight for,’ Clinton told reporters here. She said voters in Iowa will have a choice ‘between someone who talks the talk, and somebody who's walked the walk.’”

More Clinton: “‘I have said for months that I would much rather be attacking Republicans, and attacking the problems of our country, because ultimately that's what I want to do as president. But I have been, for months, on the receiving end of rather consistent attacks. Well, now the fun part starts. We're into the last month, and we're going to start drawing the contrasts.’”

That drew a swift rebuke from Obama. “‘This presidential campaign isn't about attacking people for fun, it's about solving people's problems, like ending this war and creating a universal health care system,’ he said in a statement. ‘Washington insiders might think throwing mud is fun, but the American people are looking for leadership that can unite this country around a common purpose.’” 

Here's how the Des Moines Register plays the Clinton promise that she'll get tougher on her primary foes: "Clinton says she'll increase criticism of Democratic rivals."

Per NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan, Obama yesterday also brushed off the Clinton campaign’s attacks on his leadership PAC. Obama said those attacks were the product of political frustration since "fortunes have changed." Nothing could underscore that point more than the argument made by Clinton that Obama has also been planning a White House run ever since he entered office. While there's no doubt that with an entrance as grand as he had, his eyes may have been looking past the Senate chamber to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Obama has been making jokes about Clinton having "long-held ambitions" for political office for more than a month now.
 
He first introduced the line in a speech in Spartanburg, SC on November 3. "I am not running for this office to fulfill any long-held plans or because I believe it is somehow owed to me. I never expected to be here, and I always knew the journey would be improbable," he said. Lately, he has been tossing the line in far more frequently. When he used it at the Apollo in Harlem last week, he got a lot of laughs.

More Clinton vs. Obama… The Washington Post looks at the indecision by some black leaders in choosing between Clinton and Obama.  "For black leaders ... the Clinton-Obama rivalry represents a moment of choice for the black political establishment that grew from the civil rights movement. With the African American vote potentially critical once the primary campaign extends beyond overwhelmingly white Iowa and New Hampshire, the divided loyalties are making for a complex landscape in heavily black states such as South Carolina, which will hold its primary Jan. 26, and Georgia and Alabama, which will vote Feb. 5."

The Los Angeles Times looks at the three-way rhetorical battle over health care. "Healthcare has spurred some of the fiercest exchanges among Democrats on the campaign trail, with the Clinton campaign demanding that Obama renounce ‘misleading’ claims and Edwards charging that neither of his chief rivals goes far enough in their reform plans.”

“Though the specifics of the healthcare proposals are complex, there are compelling reasons why Clinton has chosen to fight on this ground -- and why Obama and Edwards are fully engaged. The new focus was seized by Clinton's campaign, which has struggled in recent weeks to respond to attacks from Obama and Edwards that she lacks conviction on key issues... In this week's tussle, Clinton used healthcare as a way to turn the tables on her chief rival. Now she is presenting herself as the candidate with core convictions and bold ideas, and portraying Obama as an opponent of true reform who is being disingenuous with voters."

And is the Clinton vs. Obama split causing headaches in the Jackson family? The Chicago Sun-Times' Lynn Sweet reports that Rep. Jackson (who has endorsed Obama) and his mother (who has endorsed Clinton) will be hitting the campaign trail for their respective candidates in the early presidential voting states.

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I think most of you people have forgotten what he are about here. do you really think this health care is going to happen do you think big insurance and big drug company and hospitals are going to give up the greed because the presidnet said so. Presidents dont write the law.Obama is a oneway tictet to a nothing show. We need a true patriot in office we are winning in iraq the middle east is our biggest problem and it isnt going away any time soon.we need a president that knows how to fight both foreign and domestic issue's  vote John McCain      
If that's true then we can conclude that Obama is some wannabee first term senator from Ill who got elected because he and his camnpaign slung "sexual" mud at his opponent.

Right?

disgusted (Sent Monday, December 03, 2007 11:43 AM)

Wrong....
his republican gadfly was Alan Keyes........
nuff said....
Citizen J, I got your name confused with Jerry of Corpus.  When I make a mistake, I say I was wrong (unlike Obama).

I apoligize.  I was talking to Jerry not you.

Hillary Clinton has every right to point out policy differences and leadership issues that she sees in Obama.  She has certainly had her record and integrity questioned.  We have to be able to vote on something other than rhetoric and the "horserace" that the media pushes.

When the candidates go on the "attack" as the media calls it, we begin to get information that either hasn't been reported, or not given wide coverage; and we have to sift through that information to see what we believe or find relevant.

Personally, I am an Edwards fan.  I don't see either Obama or Clinton as agents of change as each of them is supporting the creation of new nuclear power plants (back to the 50's), trade with Peru (more NAFTA), continued funding of the war (no leadership), and are compromised by their ties to entrenched and powerful Washington lobbyists (same old, no substantive change).  

Edwards is the leader and the most creative thinker running.  He is a decent and strong character who will rally the country and force the politicians to follow.
Citizen J, I got your name confused with Jerry of Corpus.  When I make a mistake, I say I was wrong (unlike Obama).

I apoligize.  I was talking to Jerry not you.


disgusted (Sent Monday, December 03, 2007 12:20 PM)

Ignoring your little Obama jab, apology accepted. I really was confused as to what you were talking about.
I have noticed that Hillary's campaign is pulling money from other states to pump it into Iowa because her campaign is in troble there and losing ground fast.  This is a sign that her inevitability is facing a reality check and she also appears to be getting a little desperate with her school girl attacts about how long someone wanted to be president.  I have always felt that Obama was the best candidate and Hillary represents old politics, but I truthfully thought that as a black man Obama would have a hard time being elected President of the United States when it came down to it.  But I have been heartened lately, I believe America is more mature now and we are looking for the best candidate and more an more people like myself will be willing to give him our support because we are now beginning to realise that he has a realistic of winning.
Newsflash: Advisors to the President are pretty important. If Clinton is elected, do you really think she won't use advisors to help her make decisions.

If by some act of god she ends up getting elected president, she better get some new people.....

Her current crop is digging new graves for her each and every day.
As the primaries get closer I see a shift to Obama of about 15% with Democratic voters, and 50% shift with independents as voters become more comfortable and confident that Obama is electable.
“I have said for months that I would much rather be attacking Republicans...."

"Is that honestly the type of person anyone wants as President!?  Screw managing the country, she'd rather spend her time in office attacking half the politicians, and ignoring half the entire national population.  The worst possible person to be in office is the one who will automatically shoot down anything certain people say simply because of their political party.  I cannot think of a single worse way to run the country, and her foot in mouth comments she's been spewing for the past decade should be more than enough to ever keep her from reaching the level of power she desires.  It's bad enough that she wants a dictatorship, but being a dictator who robs people blind while pretending to do it for the greater good, this nation simply can't afford her. "
Beckwolf, Houston, TX (Sent Monday, December 03, 2007 10:12 AM)


I agree.  Senator Clinton is a very intelligent person and would make a good president to a certain extent.  However, unless America rises up and gives Democrats control (retain House majority and 60 plus Senate votes) Senator Clinton can not accomplish the unity that our country needs.  As one of our infamous Presidents once alluded to.  We truly need a uniter and not a divider
Senator Clinton is a very intelligent person and would make a good president to a certain extent.

Attacking a person for telling people he wanted to be President when he was 4 years old shows her intelligence is a bit short in that department....
http://www.robertreich.blogspot.com/

The above link is to Robert Reich's blog......

Now he is going after Hillary as well.......

She better get her game on..........
A Teacher - are you serious?  Can we take a quick poll here of people who said they wanted to be President?  Kindergardeners know of about 5 jobs - fireman, astronaut, teacher, doctor, and President.  You don't hear a lot of "I want to be an Administrative Assistant" or "I want to grow up to sell 401Ks" in elementary schools.
Do you honestly believe 5-year-old Obama was being calculating when he wrote his little essay?  Seriously, I cannot believe how laughingly pathetic this story is.  I cannot imagine voters like attacking the record of toddlers, but hey, what do I know?  Can we please dig up some of Clinton's elementary school papers to critique?  Where did they even get this from?
Regardless of what any "new" polls might say, the fact is that Hillary would not be going bezerk if her internal polling did not tell her that there is some meat behind Obama's ascent in the polls.

Usually she hides behind her henchmen, so if she's showing her own teeth it's because she feels there's something to be worried about.

You don't start reaching back to quote essays written by a 5-year-old, and attacking a guy's character because his approach to delivering universal healthcare is different from yours unless something is wrong. Say you don't agree that his approach is best, but when you say it's indicative of a character problem after professing to be "above the politics of personal destruction", there's more going on here.

Within one week, we've heard this from Hillary's team to Obama:

1. Take down your healthcare ad, it’s misleading.
2. Your PAC is illegal, shut it down.
3. Obama’s got “character” and “courage” issues.
4. When you were 5, you said you wanted to be the President, so now you’re flip-flopping.

And, as Hillary said on Sunday, there's more to come.

They're throwing the entire playbook at him to stop him. This is the behavior of a campaign that is afraid.

If Hillary's supporters don't see that, you are blind.
i am with you dot. i am still deciding. i am trying to understand how with a year to go so many have already decided who to vote for. i have been on every site available. i have been researching voting records, backgrounds, bi-partisan cooperation, actual finance reporting and more. so far i have found that all of the candidates have good and bad points. some have more skeletons in their closet than others. some have been attacking on the issues while being blamed for being negative (issues aren't personal) and now some are actually becoming negative by getting personal. through it all no one seems to be interested in facts and truths about the candidates. i am not interested in biased poling. it has long been proven that polls are pretty much worthless except to try and sway public opinion. i am going to make up my own mind sooner or later. i guess i will keep pursuing the facts and truth. all this media driven venom here might cause the wrong person to be the president. well dot, i guess you and i can be called indecisive.
i have missed something here. i have been reading extensively since the campaigns began and i have yet to find any personal attacks from any of the candidates but one. the other candidates have been attacking strongly on issues, but until recently only one candidate has stooped so low as use personal inuendo, insinuations and possible insults. again, i haven't made up my mind as to who i am going to support, but this personal volley doesn't weigh favorably with me. i would imagine it is not going to play well with a lot of voters. some of us who are undecided because we believe time and patience will show us the true nature of the candidates. that is something we really want to see. to strongly attack differences of issues is one thing, but smear a candidate personally in really and absolutely negative. it seems some folks equate attacking the issues and differences between each other and personal attacks as the same thing. they aren't. only one candidate has crossed that bridge.
Colors, exactly what "cheats" of Obama's Hillary exposed?  That he wanted to be president in kindergarten before he wanted to be an astronaut in second grade before he wanted to be president again in third grade?  That she disagrees with his use of the term "universal" to describe her health care plan?  That his PAC has made fully legal donations, the majority of them to non-Obama supporters.

You're right, I feel a faint coming on.  Better get me some smelling salts.

If they were attacking Clinton because she was ahead before, guess she's attacking Obama because he's ahead now.  And she's being a lot more direct and negative that Obama so far.
Disgusted, which of the two candidates said that the negative campaigning of the next two weeks is going to be the "fun part"?  Which one's campaign director accused the other of "saying one thing and doing another" without providing any specifics whatsoever to something that approaches a bald-faced lie?

I rest *my* case.


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