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First thoughts: One month out

Posted: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:18 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** One month out: Now that the Iowa caucuses are exactly one month away, it wasn’t surprising that we saw another wild weekend. A new Des Moines Register poll had Obama and Huckabee -- yes, Huckabee -- leading their respective fields; probably not unrelated, Clinton went on the attack, and the Romney campaign announced that the former Massachusetts governor will give his Mormon speech on Thursday; McCain picked up a coveted endorsement from the conservative New Hampshire Union Leader’s editorial page; and LSU (which has lost two games) and Ohio State (which lost just a few weeks ago) will face each other in perhaps the least-anticipated college football championship game in ten years. (With the expedited primary calendar, we’re now not too disappointed we’re going to miss the bowl games…) How wild was the weekend? No one is talking about Friday’s hostage situation… It’s also worth pointing out that few were talking about Edwards and Thompson…

*** It’s all about trust…: Perhaps the most interesting news over the weekend was the Des Moines Register poll showing Obama leading Clinton among women, 31%-26%. Also: “Thirty percent of Democratic caucusgoers viewed Sen. Clinton as either mostly or very unfavorably, behind U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio and former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel. She topped the list of candidates whose nomination would be one of the biggest disappointments at 27 percent.” This is just our educated guess, but it appears that women have shifted away from Clinton on the trust issue. Ask former DCCC Chair Rahm Emanuel about the importance of "trust" female voters. And that's why the Clinton camp went on the offensive over the weekend, trying to paint Obama as something he's not -- on campaign finance and health care.

*** On the attack: But it just wasn’t campaign finance and health care. The Clinton camp also went after Obama on the issue of ambition, questioning his statement over the weekend that he’s not running for president “to fulfill some long held plans.” A Clinton research document pointed out -- from friends, family, and teachers -- that Obama has thought about running for president. But how does Team Clinton look on the attack here? This is certainly not Iowa Nice. The Clinton campaign is dropping the hammer in press releases, but we still don't know if she'll do it in paid media. She talked about fighting back as "fun," which camp Obama used as example of her running a "textbook" campaign.

*** Here it comes: As for Romney’s Big Speech on Thursday, a Romney adviser told First Read months ago that the speech would be in December. The thinking was, do it when it counts. (That said, another Romney adviser told Beliefnet.com last week that the speech wouldn’t come until next year or the general election.) Will it work? According to an AP article in August, there are some big differences between the speech JFK gave in 1960 and the one Romney will give on Thursday. For starters, when Kennedy ran, 28% of the country was Catholic versus the 2% the Mormon voting populace is today. Moreover, when father George Romney ran in 1968, his Mormonism didn't garner much attention. But that’s likely because most evangelicals were Southern Democrats -- not Republicans -- back then. Romney’s speech on Thursday will either work, making him look like a leader and he stops the Iowa bleeding. Or it doesn’t, and he continues to fade, making a run at becoming this year's Phil Gramm or Howard Dean.

*** The survivor? We can’t believe we’re saying this, but the idea of McCain as last man standing in the GOP field is suddenly not so crazy. The thinking behind this is: 1) Huckabee wins Iowa, but there is no way the Republican Party hands the nomination to Huckabee; 2) Rudy’s next three weeks are as brutal as last week; and 3) Thompson doesn’t catch fire. If those three things happen, then McCain becomes a stronger possibility, right? In fact, does anyone else see the parallels between this year's BCS and the GOP race? No one seems to want to be No.1. But, eventually, someone has to play for the title -- er -- nomination. Before this year, no two-loss team had been in the national title game. If there is any candidate that looks like a two-loss team, it's McCain.

*** Rudy catches a break? Speaking of Rudy, however, is there anyone happier than Giuliani about the fired up Clinton vs. Obama storyline, as well as the announcement that Romney will give The Speech on Thursday? Suddenly, there just isn't enough media to go around to keep up the developing feeding frenzy on Rudy… Still, don't miss the renewed fire in the New York City press corps to get everything out there AGAIN. Giuliani campaign continues to answer these charges with two words: "old news." But is it old news to voters in Iowa and New Hampshire that he conducted an extramarital affair a few years ago? Sure, he eventually married her, but...

*** On the trail: Almost everyone is in Iowa today: Biden gives a talk on Iran and foreign policy in Iowa City; Clinton attends “take your buddy to caucus” events throughout the state; Dodd has a town hall in Des Moines; Edwards hits community meetings in Waterloo, Fort Madison, and Burlington; Huckabee campaigns in Des Moines and Johnstown; Obama holds a roundtable in Des Moines; and Richardson stumps in the state. Elsewhere, Giuliani delivers remarks in Greensboro, NC; McCain and Romney are in New Hampshire; and Thompson, in DC, has a roundtable with three pro-business trade associations: the National Federation of Independent Business, the National Restaurant Association, and Associated Builders and Contractors.

Countdown to Iowa: 31 days
Countdown to New Hampshire: 36 days
Countdown to Michigan: 43 days
Countdown to Nevada and SC GOP primary: 47 days
Countdown to SC Dem primary: 54 days
Countdown to Florida: 57 days
Countdown to Tsunami Tuesday: 64 days
Countdown to Election Day 2008: 337 days
Countdown to Inauguration Day 2009: 414 days

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Van
Comments on other sites regarding Clinton's attacks yesterday overwhelmingly are saying she looks desperate and it will not only raise her unfavorables but, will hurt her campaign.
Many people feel if there was something there, the press would have already learned about it long ago and reported.  For her to pull this out of thin air, especially with her reputation for ethical and character problems, will not fly.
I am surprised by HRC even taking this route.  I honestly thought she was more savvy than this.  A month before the caucus and the day after the polls, it looks sloppy and tawdry.  lashing out.
Barak Obama IS LYING...DELIBERATELY, REPEATEDLY, AND TACTICALLY...it's just that simple.

Have the guts, courage to get off your set narrative, BIG MEDIA, and check it out.
Barak Obama IS LYING...DELIBERATELY, REPEATEDLY, AND TACTICALLY...it's just that simple.

Have the guts, courage to get off your set narrative, BIG MEDIA, and check it out.
Disgusted (Sent Monday, December 03, 2007 9:35 AM)

Please provide citations for your claims. What is he lying about?
OBAMA IS LYING!  He is lying about:

*Preconditions
*Pakistan Plan
*Social Security
*His "VIRTUAL" universal health care plan that leaves
 out 15 mi9llion Americans
*Denies reapeatedly saying:

      "Probably the trongest experience I have is the
       fact I spent four years living overseas when
       I was a child in southeast Asia."
*Rezko
*Life Story..takes too much credit for thing HE did
while working in Chicago...asbestos removal, etc
*Says he had not been planning to run for president
    But according to his family, friends, former
    teachers and classmates he had been since he
    was very young and going to school in Indonesia.

MR. OBAMA IS A LIAR

   
McCain just can't pull it out this time, it's not going to happen.  The approval for the war is lower in New England than nationwide, where polls have already shown up to 70% of independents against the Iraq War; in New Hampshire, that figure is most likely closer to 80%.  

What that means is that if sixty percent of NH independents who vote do so in the Democratic Party as expected, half of the remaining forty percent who participate in the GOP primary may be anti-Iraq war.  In that environment, I don't see how McCain powers past a strong field of Huckabee (who will have won Iowa and get some votes despite being a Southerner), Romney (who will still get a chunk of votes despite losing), Giuliani (see Romney), and Paul (who is holding the anti-war position, not to mention the best anti-spending small government position).

It's not like McCain will have any momentum in Iowa if he places sixth.  
You might as well be working for the Obama campaign. It is so obvoius you want Obama to win. This site is for the Obama team.
Hillary is the best candidate among both parties.
Barack "holier than thou" Obama is lying about Hopefund.

He said he rejects money from federalk lobbyist and corporate polictical action committies.

SAINT OBAMA IS LYING...again.

Hopefund took money from LOCKHEED-MARTIN, WAL- MART
CITIBANK...just to name a few.

Obama's Hopefund also got moneyu from federal PACS.

Barack Obama does not tell the truth.
WOW! I knew that if Obama did well alot of folks wouldn't like it, but I must say, I didn't expect quite the "meltdown" mode that we have witnessed from the Clinton campaign. If this is how Hillary Clinton handles pressure, the White House might not be the best place for her.

Let the "fun" begin indeed.
Is anyone surprised that Romney is giving his "Mormon speech" just when he appears to have peaked in the polls?  Without a doubt he's been sitting on that for months to pull out when his campaign needed a boost.  Everything about him is calculated, nothing genuine.
Mr. Obama,
   Senator Clinton made her HillPac dormant in January of 2007 when she announced her candidacy.

   You say that you just did not know you were going to run for president and you had money left Hopefund.

   Is that your reason for keeping Hopefund open and giving money to early primary voting states?

   Now you know that you are running for president so why don't you shut Hopefund down like the other candidates?

   I respectfully submit that you, Mr. Obama, may not be exactly truthful.
 
Senator Obama,

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!
John, you do realize that that "lobbyist money" in the HopeFund doesn't even GO to Barack Obama, right?  It gets mishmashed, split up, and sent to democrats across the country who have no idea that Lockheed gave any money.  Hillary even got some.

What's most disgusting about Hillary Clinton's vicious personal attacks on Obama is that she actually ENJOYS it.  She was lying all over the place when she said she didn't want to attack other democrats and just wanted to attack Republicans.  She ACTUALLY SAID:

“But I have been for months on the receiving end of rather consistent attacks – well now the fun part starts,” Mrs. Clinton said, punctuating the word “fun.”
---
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/an-attack-from-the-candidates-mouth/


I think we can see where honesty and principles rest in this back-and-forth.  Obama is clean as a whistle compared to Hillary.  There's a reason she can't cite anything about HopeFund specifically that's illegal, because it's not.  They donated to Hillary, they donated to people that have endorsed Hillary.  And, it highlights her disgusting $400,000 debt-for-endorsement Vilsack dilemma.

Obama is obviously the candidate you can trust.  His transparency is what even enables Hillary to erroneously claim he is being deceptive.  Ironic.

Barack Obama - the candidate who doesn't think attacking is "fun" - the candidate you can ACTUALLY trust.
I agree that Mr. Obama lies...deliberately, repeatedly, andr tactically as does Mr. Axelrod.

It is finally coming to light just how much the Obama campaign outright lies, tells half truths, twists the facts, lies and then blames Ms. Cinton or others.

It is disgraceful.

I will never vote for Mr. Obama
It is so funny to see Clinton's machine questioning Obama's character...lol...What a joke?

Am I supposed to be buying this argument from Hillary Clinton? Hillary has no credibility when it comes to character issues. Does she want me to remind her about Norman Hsu? I Can go on and on.
John,

The money raised in Hopefund was raised prior to his run for President.   He said he will not accept money from Lobbiests and PAC's in this campaign and he hasn't.  He has never said that he had never accepted their money.

I can't believe the meltdowns Clinton and Romney have reacted with to sinking poll numbers in Iowa, and I'm not trying to be snide or cutting, I really mean it when I say I'm surprised by it; I thought the one benefit of having such disciplined campaigns was that it's supposed to prevent this kind of nonsense.  It's like Clinton and Romney saw their poll numbers in Iowa, held hands, and flip-flopped off a cliff together.

Romney's melting began at the GOP debate, whereas  Clinton is just beating herself over the head daily  with some of this ridiculous stuff (including the angry spammers on this thread to further her agenda); whoever in her campaign told Clinton she should make this election about character should be fired, and I mean that.  In attempting to challenge Obama's greatest asset, a classic Rovian gambit, she has instead drawn more attention to her greatest vulnerability.
Wow... looks like people from the Clinton campaign are spamming every blog on the net that is reporting the new poll numbers. Is this a coordinated effort? I think so, since they are all typing in all-caps and using asterisks. Just a thought, but maybe they are all copying and pasting from a memo. Clinton may be trying to blur the line between herself and Obama, but her campaigners are blurring the lines between her and Bush.
Ya know, I really don't think all you you Clinton supporters want to go there.  When you live in a glass house . . .
WOW... not only is Hillary running scared but look at her supporters.  I quess the kitchen is getting to hot after all.

BTW is she returning the money she recieved from his HopeFund or does she plan to endorse him...do any of you know?  LOL
Barak,
   You and your campaign have obviously gone to Karl Rove campaign workshops.

   You are taking Republican talking points and sleazy tactics right out of their play book.

   Next thing we expect to hear is if you vote for Clinton OR ANY OTHER CANDIDATE...the other candidate has plans to ban the BIBLE. Where did we hear that one before?....2004 Bush campaign

   Or how about any candidate...Edwards, Biden, etc.
have a black love child.  Bush 2000 Campaign about McCain

   Obama, you are a dirty trick, lying Republican.
Clinton's supporters are sounding just as nasty and vindictive as her.  Just read the posts on here.  Calling him a liar, trashing his reputation.  At least when Edwards and Obama contrast their differences with Clinton, it's on the issues.  Now look who is throwing mud and making it personal.  She is attacking his character.  How desperate and nasty she is becoming.
Let us review...character:

Just thought i'd provide some facts on the HillPAC and other Clinton related funds that they have used to buy political support. The hypocrisy of the Clinton campaign is astonishing… like Obama said.. they are stressing at the thought of someone else gaining the confidence of America…I thought Hillary wasn't interested in attacking other democrats… I guess something is indeed worrying her…
Hopefund Donated $4,200 to Clinton. Hopefund made two separate donations of $2,100 each to Friends of Hillary in 2005. [FEC, accessed 12/2/07]
Clinton Used Foundation to Make Early State Donation. "And just this week, no doubt unintentionally, she stumbled on another way to leverage non-campaign cash into a political benefit in a primary state when money from the Clinton Family Foundation, the Clintons' family-funded charity that has given them tax write-offs since 2001, popped up to provide an assist. On Tuesday, during a swing through the hotly-contested early primary state of South Carolina, Hillary presented a $100,000 gift from the foundation to help build a new public library in poor, rural Marlboro County, South Carolina." [Newsday, 11/29/07]
Clinton Used HillPAC To Pay Employees of Presidential Campaign In January of 2007. Clinton used HillPAC to pay four members of her campaign staff in 2007, when her presidential campaign was in its formative stages. Patti Solis Doyle received $42,165 in wages and consulting fees; Heather Hurlburt received $6693 in consulting fees; Judith Litchman received $4368 in consulting fees, and Peter Daou received $3971 in consulting fees. All four of those people are now on Clinton's presidential campaign. Patti Solis Doyle received her first paycheck from the campaign on 2/2/07, as did Peter Daou; Heather Hurlburt and Judith Lichtman received their first consulting payments on the same date. [FEC, accessed 11/27/07]
Clinton Used HillPAC to Donate $234,000 to Early States Since 2001; $59,000 In Donations Made In 2006. Clinton gave $234,000 from HillPAC to the early primary states of Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina since 2001. Almost $60,000 in donations, including money to the Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina Democratic Parties, Governor John Lynch, and Governor Chet Culver, were made during 2006. [FEC, accessed 11/27/07


Or how about Vilsack:

http://www.kcci.com/politics/11407584/detail.html?rss=des&psp=news
Sen. Clinton To Pay Off Vilsack's Campaign Debt
Details Have To Be Worked Out
POSTED: 6:31 pm CDT March 27, 2007
UPDATED: 6:53 pm CDT March 27, 2007

DES MOINES, Iowa -- Former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack gave Sen. Hillary Clinton his endorsement for her presidential campaign.
The Clinton campaign has promised Vilsack to help pay off a $400,000 campaign debt he built up during his run for the White House.
A representative for Clinton's campaign said they are not sure how their campaign will do that. They concede that at some point, Clinton will have to contact her supporters.

The campaign said there is no connection between Vilsack's endorsement and their commitment to help pay off his campaign debt.



Hillary like Bill ( who declared he was against Iraq) failed to realize that this day and age people can find everything...even the truth.
Awhh, sorry but it is blatently obvious that the Clinton campaign has the same poster posting over and over again under different names. That is pathetic and it only makes Clinton look worse. If you support Clinton, you should just talk about policy when you begin to talk bad about Obama or other candidates it just make her look a bit desperate and more unfavorable!!!
Hillary lecturing Obama on campaign finance is like Tony Soprano lecturing us about law and Order. This weekend signal the beginning of the end of Clinton's dynasty.

To make matter worst Hillary Clinton's campaign is questioning Obama's character...lol...Perhaps, Hillary forgot that those that live in a glass house shouldn't throw a stone. If there is someone that should be lecturing us about character, it ain’t Hillary Clinton.

This is going to be the sweetest week ever. Finally, the inevitability argument is done; I wonder what the belt way boys will say next.

I can see how Hillary's talking point is flying all over the blog this morning. Here is the headline folks " HILLARY CLINTON FINALLY MELT DOWN"
What is going on??? I don't think I've EVER seen this many Clinton supporters or Obama naysayers on this site!! It appears that the glove are off!!
C'mon -- she cited an Obama essay from KINDERGARTEN in her attacks. Surely that's worthy of a mention, to say nothing of ridicule.

Clinton spammers here -- you're not helping your candidate, at all. Quite the opposite. You might want to instead spend your time helping your candidate organize her supporters. She needs the help.

samantha (Sent Monday, December 03, 2007 9:59 AM)

Disgusted (Sent Monday, December 03, 2007 9:56 AM)

Linda Lou (Sent Monday, December 03, 2007 9:55 AM)

John OH (Sent Monday, December 03, 2007 9:49 AM)



Someone has a case of the Mondays

Drink your coffee, take your meds, and get one of those foam bricks you can throw at your monitor. Your opinion-based "arguments" aren't convincing anyone.
I see the Obama team is once again in full swing. So he is leading in the Iowa polls .. BIG DEAL ... in the bigger picture ...basically the rest of the nation, Mrs. Clinton is bascially kicking Obama's behind in a big way not mention the other republican candidates.
Don TX,
   Obama has suggested repeatedly that he piiously does not take money from lobbyist.

   He is LYING.

   Obama's HOPEFUND has taken moneyu from Lockheed-Martin, Wal Mart and Citibank among other lobbyists.

   Mr. Obama twists the truth or out and out lies.

   You are using one of Obama's tricks.
Attack Hillary when caught in a lie...say she did it first or worse than you did.

   Barak Obama says he rejects money from federal lobbyist and corporate political action committees.

IT's JUST A SIMPLE YES OR NOT, Mr. Obama.

Don, TX...has Obama taken the money or not.  Don't try to sidetrack onto to Hillary or other candidates.

We want a straight answer about Obama.   I'm not asking where the Hopefund money goes. I'm asking for a straight answer to Obama's claim tht he rejects money from federalo lobbyist and coproate political action committees.

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE, OBAMA
But how does Team Clinton look on the attack here?
Pretty desperate.....

Van, your girl better come up with something fast....
even the women are turning away....
The "ambitions" Hillary is citing come from an elementary school essay. She reminds everybody how polarizing she is and how she demonizes people of different opinion. Obama is not a democrat because of a different priority in healthcare policy? LOL
I see the Obama team is once again in full swing. So he is leading in the Iowa polls .. BIG DEAL ... in the bigger picture ...basically the rest of the nation, Mrs. Clinton is bascially kicking Obama's behind in a big way not mention the other republican candidates.

RGO, California (Sent Monday, December 03, 2007 10:14 AM)

Too bad we don't have a national primary.
I'm not sure what what Romney says in his "Mormon Speech". I live in Utah, appreciate the church as an outsider. It molds a sound society, for the most part. The young men go off on missions. There is pressure for marriage, children. Romney might make the point that LDS folk are very serious in their devotion in a largely secular world.

On the other hand, if this is about Evangelicals, the thrust of history, Romney is doomed. He may, at most, get a sound bite, though he can excerpt in ads.

If Huckabee could simply make Evangelicals the core of the GOP, they win. Bush has given Evangelicals the Court, talk on sexual issues, and his personal history. But the GOP is also about tax cuts and corporations, the elites of wealth and power. What if the Evangelicals are the in charge, and they are making concessions to Wall Street and corporate America. Can that work? Given the problems America faces, surely some talk of values, across a vast frontier of issues, would resonate? At least with the middle? Rolling Stone through Matt Taibi called Huckabee a 'kook'. Really? If you take the issues of 'sanctity' like life, marriage and law (immigration) it covers a lot of ground. It's not all that kooky. (And Romney cannnot make Evangelicals the core of the GOP.)

Is this election is about a middle-middle emergence? A religious middle class in middle America. If so, Romney is kind of on the wrong side of both things. Romney wants to be similar to Bush, a man of the elites who speaks to that religious middle-middle. But Huckabee surely has the resume for that group. And you have to wonder if Evangelicals can reach out broadly to the vast shared values of Christianity.

As a national figure, it would be interesting to see if Huckabee could mold Christian values around national security issues. Given a war against Islamic terror, that could go in some awkward directions.
Huckabee and Obama are surging in Iowa and the other guys are doing what they do to the leader, but the Obama supporters, who aren't used to hearing anything but hosannas from the media, are bristling and characterizing as, "desperate, spinning, scared", etc. the kind of stories and accusations that will naturally follow in the aftermath of taking the lead.  

It's your turn guys. You have a whole month to discover what it's like to be built up by the MSM, and what they do to you AFTER they build you up.
It's particularly ironic that so many here, who had no compunctions about posting the nastiest slanders from the most noxious sources about Clinton are decrying the counter punching that's beginning and will continue unabated until the caucus, and will come from ALL sides.
Congratulations to Huckabee and Obama, the new leaders in the Ia caucus polls. Prepare for the media scrutiny and changing tone of reportage that is your reward.
It's going to be an interesting month...


Van
Hey guys: Hilary will win the nomination because the crucial moment will be at the time of VOTE. I like Obama but Obama is not ready for the trash wagon embedded in the republican (right wing cult).
Hillary has the know how to deal with the trash wagon while Obama is still too naive. (REMEMBER WHAT THEY DID TO KERRY. DO YOU THINK FOR A MOMENT THAT OBAMA CAN TAKE THE HEAT (NO) MAYBE IN 2012. (Mean while let go against the republican, they are the enemy of our liberty and freedom
Barack Obama says one thing and does another

Obama talks a good game but doesen't have the courage of his convictions

Obama is not trustworthy or truthful.

As usual, if First Read mentions Edwards at all, it is condensending and negative  "It’s also worth pointing out that few were talking about Edwards and Thompson…"
This is disgusting..I can't wait until the caucus results-I think you guys will look like fools..
No more whining about a boring race, eh? Politics never ceases to amaze with how quickly a predictable and stable situation can turn into a white hot horse race instantly.

http://political-buzz.com/2007/12/03/one-month-from-iowa/

I agree with you CitizenJ , we should have a national primary, get rid of the electoral college and whoever has the most votes wins ..seems like a fair system, dont you?
Barack Obama' response is here:

click
http://www.factcheck.barackobama.com/
"It’s also worth pointing out that few were talking about Edwards and Thompson…"

You guys just couldn't help yourselves.  Chuck Todd will be placed on suicide wath if Edwards wins the nomination.

"and LSU (which has lost two games) and Ohio State (which lost just a few weeks ago) will face each other in perhaps the least-anticipated college football championship game in ten years."...according to whom?  Last time I checked, the prospect of a Mizzou/W. Va. matchup wasn't setting the message boards abuzz like LSU/OSU.
Van,

Obama will handle Clinton like he handles any other opponent that like to fabricate story. You got to admit that Hillary Clinton is sounding desperate at this point.

Obama knock her off her game and guess what she is going to loose this argument. He is beating her among the women and Men vote. At this point, I can infer that Hillary is toast.
vanreuter, NY NY (Sent Monday, December 03, 2007 10:23 AM)

How was the weekend? I have to say I am feeling refreshed and ready to provoke the fringe.

I agree that these lunatics, if I may call them that, have switched sides because things have evened out a bit.

I'm not sure that Obama has really overtaken Clinton as the "front-runner", though. Campaigns are cyclical - people rise, fall, then rise again. But one thing that could be interesting - and might be an advantage to Obama - is that if this most recent momentum doesn't recede for another week or two, will there be sufficient time to knock him back down before Iowa?
If I was a Edwards supporter I think it makes more sense, especially in a place like Iowa, to support Obama as well for #2. When Clinton loses support, Edwards picks up numbers. So instead of Edwards supporters bashing Obama, you should spend that energy on getting the truth out about Clinton, b/c if Clinton loses Iowa, then Edwards will have a better chance of winning the nomination!!! You don't want people to pick Clinton as #2 b/c if she does well in the caucus to any extent then the "polarizing" argument would be less valid. So focus on getting the truth about Clinton, it can only help your candidate!!
John, Obama has never claimed that he NEVER took lobbyist money.  He will not take lobbyist money for his Presidential campaign.  Nothing the HopeFund receives goes to Obama.  The Hope Fund does not contribute to Obama's presidential race.  Again, I don't see why you seem to think that this means he accepted lobbyist money for his Presidential campaign?  Instead, it seems like you're just reading off of Hillary's talking points emails, you know, the ones were she declares attacking other democrats as "FUN"?  He is a leader of ethics reform, and helped passed the Fiengold ethics reform bill...

The only reason Hillary can even MAKE that slanderous claim is because Obama is so transparent with where his money comes from.
Now the real truth comes out.

This is an Obama site you say and you want to deny freedom of speech to Hillary supporoters.

Now I get it.

Attack anyone who does not agree with Obama.

Dear First Read;

It seems you folks finally got what you've been working so hard to achieve:  Obama inching up to and, in a couple of polls, ahead of Clinton.  Over the past couple of months, I've marveled at how hard you've worked to achieve this.  After all, the media hates runaway races--nothing to comment on.

I think the Clinton's campaign should worry more about Nevada and their violation of campaign finance.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nevada/2007/nov/30/113010815.html


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