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Huckabee does Imus

Posted: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:58 AM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Lauren Appelbaum
Huckabee -- the fourth presidential candidate to go on Don Imus' show since it returned yesterday (following McCain, Dodd, and Richardson) -- faced difficult questions today on Romney's Mormonism, who can go to heaven, and abortion.
 
Although Imus may have been attempting to spark controversy by asking Huckabee if Mormons are true Christians and if Jewish people can go to heaven, the former governor didn't take the bait. Responding to the Mormon question, Huckabee disregarded any friction between Mormons and conservative Christians, saying there's friction between people in the same pew. "It's really not so much related to your denomination or label; it's related to your relationship with the person of Christ," Huckabee said. "I know some Baptists. I'm not sure I'd call them Christians, because they don't behave like it. People make too much of the labels we wear and not enough about the character we have." 
 
When asked if Jewish people can got to heaven, Huckabee responded with one of his trademarked quips. "I think anybody can go to heaven. I think you could even go to heaven and that's a pretty thick stretch. I'm not saying you will; I'm just saying I think you could."
 
Imus pushed Huckabee for more, asking him if someone must believe in Jesus Christ to go to heaven. "You're getting way into an area that I don't know has anything to do with running for president," Huckabee responded, implying his religious beliefs would not impact the American people. "For me to start telling everybody else what their beliefs are and the validity of them, certainly is not my role, not only individually but absolutely has no business in my being president."
 
However, Huckabee's religious beliefs may influence his opinion on issues like abortion. Huckabee said what he would like is "an affirmation of human life" and called for a national constitutional law. "I hear some people say, 'Well every state has their own views on that.' Well, that's like every state can have view their on slavery. That's the logic of the Civil War. This is a moral issue. It is either right or it's wrong. If it's wrong for us to put some beings with a greater value than others, than this is an issue that cannot be determined geographically."
 
Although Huckabee faced tough questions, Imus offered him a near-endorsement. "I'm just about to climb on that Huckabee bandwagon," Imus told the former governor during the interview.

"Well, you should be, because you were dissing me some kind of way earlier when I first announced I was going to run," Huckabee replied. "And I remember, it wasn't exactly like you met it with a standing ovation, so only Bernie [one of Imus' co-hosts] had the insight and the prophetic vision to see what was going to happen."
 
"I'll tell you what, if we go all the way, we'll have your show from the East Room of the White House," Huckabee joked. "That would wreck any re-election chances I'd ever have."

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Huckabee is for real ... I thought that four months ago!! Nice of everyone to finally join us!! Go back and reread his response to the abortion question. ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!! That just won him more support. Way to go Imus. It may have just won him the Presidency!!
We need to grow up, it is not what I call myself but how my action defines myself. The inclusive but exclusive club mentality is just plane childish. How can the finite fully understand the infinite not pluasible.
Let's get to Huckabee.  This man's personal life will dictate his political life.  He is so conservative he makes Bush look like a progressive.  He is just plain scarry.  Don't believe a word that he says.  He believes he is on a higher moral ground.
Hey folks, guess what the only thing in the constitution regarding what Imaus said reflects he has the right to say it.  That people were offended and believe he is stupid (me for one) is simply the result of him taking advantage of his freedom of speech.  I don't believe he should have been fired.  If it is OK for rappers and other "musicians" to call women hoes and other derogatory words why is it not ok for a talk radio host.  Besides from what I have heard he was pretty equal opportunity.  He was perfectly willing to offend anyone at any time. It is called "Freedom of Speech" for a reason.  Please tell me exactly what "right" people think they are refering to when they believe they have the "right" to not be offended.  I personally am often offended by folks pressing their religion on me or when certain politicians claim that "hispanic immigrants must have documents etc in their own language" or "blacks can't make it because the man keeps them down." Thats funny since every other immigrant group seems to be able to learn american english, and their are alot of blacks that are successful in life without being involved in criminal activity.  
Rick in NC.  WOW, a Democratic congress with an approval rating of 11% (lowest ever...did you catch that?...EVER and still declining).  Democratic congress invested in the United States losing the war, even though the surge is working and we're winning they want us to pull out and be losers.  The Democratic party is full of losers.  Wait I take that back one of your members avoided drunken driving and mansluaghter charges (Ted Kennedy) so he got a win there.  Another Democrat avoided impeachment and divorce (Bill Clinton) so he got a win there I could go on but all of these winners seem somehow so depressing.  Go you hairy loser/winning democrats go!
Carol, Riverhead NY "So stop god-blessing me after speeches, and awards shows, etc, and keep it to yourselves". Amen Carol... Amen
This is how we start out - People jump on bandwagons which then leads to blind endorsements.  Huckabee may be the right guy for the job, but there is alot of time between now and the election.  We don't need another "compassionate christian" full of one-liners that cannot meet the challenge of the number one job.

http://senate.ontheissues.org/Mike_Huckabee.htm

Emmaline said: Do we want a "pastor"/"minister"  -- or a president.  Where is Huckabee's family -- haven't seen them yet or heard much about them?  What about the people he works with in his campaign?  Some are carrying alot of "baggage" as well as Huckabee.

You may be interested to know that his wife with him alot on the trail. She does however, have a JOB (something that liberal feminist promote) and that his two sons, daughter and son-in-law work for his campaign. Very much Family Oriented. Those that carry baggage do so very faithfully and willingly. That's why he is winning support because his core support is so strong.
Would you all leave Don Imus alone already. Should he be crucified for his mistake? Would that make all of you so called Christians feel better? What happened to forgiveness - a true Christian value.

WELCOME BACK I-MAN!
Judy Worlet, El Paso Tx (Sent Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:35 PM)

Maybe the aide was a Republican?  Or maybe not.  At any rate, it was not a member of Congress so it is hardly comparable.  Keep digging, though.  I'm sure you will find something other than Bill one of these days.
"Huckabee Does Imus?" since when is consentual sex between two adults big news these days?
Thank you Carol. I can't help but be suspicious that beneath the affability there's another wide-eyed drooling religious fanatic in Mike Huckabee. The man's ordained, for pity's sake. Makes him perfect for the party of religious hatred and persecution, I suppose, but we've had eight years of faux-Christianity crammed down our throats. Let's stop the bleeding now and cauterize the wound by cutting religion completely out of the governmental sphere, and that includes using it as any sort of justification for controlling other people's life choices.
If America voted for Bush TWICE, why can't Huckabee be next. George can't spell EVOLUTION, and Mike doesn't believe in it!
Welcome back Imus!!!! And I really am liking this Huckabee ------------doesn't think Extreme Right Or Left------the majority of America needs someone like him!!!!
Former Baptist Minister? That has no cache in my book, but former Governor, that says to me that he knows how to get elected, how to manage the store, and how to get a bunch of politicians to do his will. I have been watching him on the Imus in the Morning show for a long time, ever since he was heavy, before his operation. He is a thoughful, smart, humorous individual. There has to be a certain amount of vasilation in a politician or else he becomes so polarizing as to be non-electable. I think Huckaby has what it takes and it should be interesting to see if the Republicans do as well. I, a Democrat, find him more paletable than Rudy, the phoney, or Romney the N.E. Liberal in sheep's clothing, or the Mexcian-loving hero John McCain. I think it would be a heck of a contest between him and Clinton. Who knows, he maybe could beat her if he could expose the woman for the evil person I believe her to be. Edwards is my man, but it won't happen.
I can't say enough good stuff about Huckabee. It is wonderful to see a man that is so comfortable in his own skin. He knows who he is and what he believes. I was completely sick of politics and had decided that even though there were people running that I respected I considered them all just political hacks until I looked closer at Huckabee. I have become sick and tired of political postering and the Washington system of getting, or should I say not getting, things done. It is refreshing to see someone like Huckabee. Even though I have told many that I would let this election pass me by, I am excited about Mike and what he offers America. I just wish we had a congress full of people with the convictions of Mike Huckabee. Well Mike, you have won me over and I will be actively involved in putting you in the White House.
I never could get the inconsistency of the "right to life" crowd.  They're all for life in a woman's womb but once that life is here it's just not their responsibility.  And they do a total 360 on the death penality. If a life is a life than it's a life.  If you can justify execution then you can justify abortion.  It's just plain and simple.  The right tries to spit hairs and they just can't get away with it.  If the right can't be consistent with their argument on execution and abortion than they shouldn't have a dog in the fight.  A woman's life is primary to the potential life the she may be carrying therefore her rights are primary.  Certainly this is so while the fetus must depend on her life to sustain its own.  Once the fetus can survive on its own, its life is on a par with hers and there must be an overriding reason to have an abortion, ie, the life of the woman is at stake.  This is common sense but the right just feeds on the emotions of the ignorant, the narrow minded, the sexists and the religious.

IMUS rocks!
your all wrong everyone who believes in heaven gets to go there those of us who believe life ends at death and there is no afterlife get to go nowhere so it is as it always will be. afirming life is a buzzword for antiabortion. if you want the truth ask the whole contry to vote on the issue and then accept the result.then its over and we can move on to the next dumb issue. this does not take rocket science.
Huckabee has never said or will never say politically who is eligible for heaven, and as far as his family his daughter was running his one person office, compared to Hillarys big offices everywhere, and as he says he cant wait to take her on.  He remembers her every move in arkansas, from calling all people hicks to her gf, to her not using her husbands name till he lost the governors race, and if you think stealing the whitehouse furniture was bad, just wait for the hundreds of stories in just arkansas and college, where she was a known socialist and worshipped a communist whom she wrote a paper over.
I'm so glad Imus is back just in time for the primaries.  I'm already enjoying his interviews and hope all the candidates do his program, even Hillary.
Huckabee has never said or will never say politically who is eligible for heaven, and as far as his family his daughter was running his one person office, compared to Hillarys big offices everywhere, and as he says he cant wait to take her on.  He remembers her every move in arkansas, from calling all people hicks to her gf, to her not using her husbands name till he lost the governors race, and if you think stealing the whitehouse furniture was bad, just wait for the hundreds of stories in just arkansas and college, where she was a known socialist and worshipped a communist whom she wrote a paper over.
Great interview by Imus, as usual, but I have a problem with the former Gov's illegal immigration record.  I won't vote for him unless he promises to be tough and get the fence built.  He sure is likable though, this Huckabee
oh good grief---leave Imus alone.  Ultimately, he was correct in what the Rutgers' Women's B-ball team looked liked---a group of tattooed thugs!  He just said what a lot of people were thinking---but all the self-righteous hypocrites had to stand up to condemn him.  Besides, given the First Amendment, what right do any of you have for condemning Imus?  You may disagree with him, but I doubt if most of you are as intelligent, well-read, perceptive, and articulate as he is.   * * *

Michael Bennett"

Michael,

I doubt you saw the NCAA womens championship game, so I doubt you thought anything about the Rutger's women team one way or another.

And if you were one of the few people who saw the game, before Imus's comments, and instead of being impressed with the skill of both teams you thought the  Rutger's women were "ugly whores" (which is essentially what Imus said) then it is no wonder you think that "Imus is intelligent, perceptive, and articulate"

You showed your ignorance further by the following statement: "Besides, given the First Amendment, what right do any of you have for condemning Imus?" Read the First amendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for redress of grievances."

Congress was never involved with Imus, the FCC was never involved in the Imus matter that lead to his termination. Imus on the public air waves called a bunch of young college students who just came off a great season, and called them ugly whores. It was inexcusable. Many people became very upset, and once advertisers knew just how upset a segment of the population was, they pulled advertising, as a result Imus' employers fired him. One of them later paid a huge settlement to him, because Imus' actual contract encouraged this type of "provocative" speech.

The first amendment involves prohibiting the Government from prohibiting speech, it does not apply to individuals. My criticizing Imus' racist comments doesn't abridge Imus' free speech rights.

"What right do any of you have for condemning Imus?"

The same right Imus has to make racist pig headed statements. Just as you have the right to embrace Imus' statements, I have the right to attack them.
Allow me to help the Republican candidate with one of Imus's questions, if you must believe in Jesus Christ to go to heaven? Your life depends on it in fact. If you can't see the chaos and destruction that is upon us all on this planet right now, even us comfortable spoiled and blind American's who seem to think they are indestructable, an awakening is coming. Watch Iran, watch Russia, pay close attention to Israel and the calling of their destruction. Watch the European Union, one country, one currency, already larger than the U.S. There is ony one Superpower and it isn't the U.S. This isn't coincidence. Jesus Christ did come and did die for you so that you could have everlasting life but you must except Him and ask Him into your life. A President can't verbally mix religion and politics, but he can silenting lead  being led by God. You had better hope one of God's own gets in the White House.
Daniel:

The CA vote initiative is unconstitutional.  Period.  Only state legislatures have the power to determine how electoral votes will be distributed - NOT the voters themselves.  It's a complete waste of time to even pursue it because it will never see the light of day. It will be challenged immediately, a stay will be issued prohibiting it from going into effect and then the courts will rightfully kick it out of existence.

Carrie, Eastern Iowa

Where did you get your law degree? I suggest you ask for a refund! You cite no legal authority for your claim, because it's in your mind, not in the constitutions or statutes.

This action in California will pass if Hillary is the nominee. The steam will run out if anyone else wins the nomination.
It's sad to see people constantly degrade those who have a belief in anything at all, specifically religion.  For the man who had the issue of his college friend repenting after her one-nighter and saying she had a clean slate:  that is not a true christian, she got caught in a contradiction and used religion as her scapegoat.  For the man who proclaims that "religion is the root of all things evil?"  I feel sorry for you and hope someday you can see how ingnorant that blanket statement really is.  We have have religion integrated into the way we live, whether we proclaim to be religious or not.  It's in how you treat everyone around you and how you wish to be treated.  I am proud to be a christian.

I agree that interviewers should focus more on the issues pertaining to our national and foreign policy rather than religious beliefs.  I think Huck is a tremendous breath of fresh air, and having always voted as a democrat since I was legally able to vote, if he gets the nomination, I am seriously considering Huckabee.  

One last thing about religion, because 'tis the season...
I don't see any of you who claim to NOT be religious complaining that you get Christmas Day off from work (if you do).  Maybe you could sign up to work the day for someone who IS a christian so they can enjoy the holiday for what it truly is:  The Celebration of the Birth of Jesus Christ.  Enjoy your commercialized day off in His name.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
In case you haven't noticed, it is the press that is raising the religion questions, not Huckabee.  He is not trying to force his religion on anyone.  In fact, he has said that he would rather be discussing the real issues that would face him as president.
I disagree, Kent.  I think Iowans who caucus are smart enough not to put allegiance for a former basketball coach over who will be the best president.  

Carrie, Eastern Iowa

Are you a University of Iowa graduate? Do you really believe that Coach Stringers appearance in the matter, and the class that she showed (as opposed to Jesse Jackson etc.)on Oprah, and in the press conference did not led to the public out cry, and wasn't the reason Imus lost his job.

What percent of Democratic (not GOP) caucus goers do you think approve of Imus? Very few of the ones I know felt Imus shouldn't have been fired, and those who bleed "black and gold" feel even stronger.

I didn't claim that no Hawkeye alum or fan would support Dodd or Richardson, because they appeared on Imus. But far more Hawkeye alums and fans would use an Imus appearance as a deal breaker than would consider it a plus.

It was dumb.

I do find your defense of Imus interesting. Apparently you didn't find Imus' comments so offensive that it would be political suicide for a Democratic presidential candidate to appear on his show less than a month before caucus. I think you've provided insight into why you always slam Obama.
Huckabee may win Iowa or finish second, but the preacher as president campaign ends there - a la Pat Robertson 1988.
A vote for Huckabee is a vote for Rudy G.
Once again, I'd love to ask all of the Imus critics if they EVER listened to or watched his program? Meanwhile I must say that MSNBC's dismal Morning Joe show hasn't generated any sort of buzz since the I-Man was so unceremoniously dumped back in April. But here we are and MSNBC feels compelled--as it should--to cover the newly reborn Imus program. What a great country!!!
Ordinarily I would agree that we should not grill presidential cancdidates on their religious beliefs. however, when someone such as Huckabee makes his religion a central part of his campaign (such as by calling himself the "Chistian conservative" in the race, as he has, mainly to suggest that Romney is not) I think it's fair to ask him. And by the way, he HAS been asked if he believes in evolution, in one of the early debates, and has said that he does not. He's quite clear that he believes that every word of teh Bible is literally true, which is something difficult for many Americans to accept. He is entirely too wedded to his religious beliefs for my tastes, and while it might get him the GOP nomination I don't think it will serve him well in the general election.
Mike Huckabee was an unknown to me until recently.  Until I took a close look at Mr. Huckabee, there simply was no one that stood out to me to be  presidential material. I appreciate the fact he is so geniune. Each trick question he has encountered has been mastered beautifully. He is so cool under fire. He is going to be great for the United States of America. I look forward to casting my ballot for Mr. Huckabee.
Imus hates women. He is truly evil. Its wrong to let him voice his crap on tv.
Another impressive show from Huckabee.  I'm still researching but I really love Huckabee's views.  He seems genuine which is a refreshing change.
Hey, Imus screwed up but he sure does do alot on his ranch for little kids with cancer.
I want to know how many kids Huckabee has become a foster parent for--or how many he's adopted.
To use the same argument that a few before me has used, how can you sanction a war that has killed thousands of people and yet worry about the sanctity of life?   I don't want another religious freak running this country!  
It's a long way to November...
A bandwagon will not get you there.
Time to start talking policies.
And religion in politics is a big one.
Huckabee is one of the few candidates
who is not slinging mud to get ahead
in popular opinion. I admire him for that.

And with the limited campaign support (money),
appearing on Imus is next to free. That's why
he did it, not because Imus is a celebrity,
but because he reaches the rural audiences
who have no idea who Huckabee is right now.

PR, people, you can't win if you don't play.
Even if it is someone know for racial slurs.
Welcome to politics.
I hope all the people who were so outraged about Don Imus were out protesting Isiah Thomas keeping his job with the New York Knicks.  His argument that it's ok for him as a black man to call a black woman a (female dog) because that's acceptable in his "culture" is ludicrous.  Of course, that story wasn't as much fun as bashing a white man for making a comment that while obviously inappropriate, was not as bad as Isiah's.  Guess Jesse and Al took that week off from the civil rights' trail.
Daniel:

The CA vote initiative is unconstitutional.  Period.  Only state legislatures have the power to determine how electoral votes will be distributed - NOT the voters themselves.  It's a complete waste of time to even pursue it because it will never see the light of day. It will be challenged immediately, a stay will be issued prohibiting it from going into effect and then the courts will rightfully kick it out of existence.
Carrie, Eastern Iowa (Sent Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:58 PM)

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You are right.  The US constitution specifically states that the state legislature is vested with this right.  Either way, however, I just hope it doesn't pass at all.  Typical cheap republican trickery to win elections.
I saw Huckabee speak 5 years ago.  I was so impressed with him at that time that I show a tape of his speach as often as I can to as many as I can.  It was not an "I'm running for president" speach.  He is a very intelligent man. We need someone like him in the White House. I truly believe he cares about the people.
I've aleays liked the Governor. My only reservations about Huck is can he be elected!After reading all these queries on Huck I'm leaning more toward yes.

Don Imus rules, always has and always will - hey that's my opinion. Some others may not think so.

We can't live in a politically correct sterile society where everything is wrong according to somebody. You can't have everything be a one way street. You can't be separate and equal. You can't call people names and get offended when someone calls you one. You can't statistically be a minority yet have the majority of aid, benefits and opportunities. We can't be African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Latino-Americans, Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans and all be Americans. America can not be a bunch of special interest groups vying for equality and supremacy. The sooner everyone grasps that reality, the sooner we will become one nation, (for those who this may affend, just stop reading here), under God!
the man is running as the anti-mormon, the "christian leader!" wake up people. why is he even being considered?

this is so, so wrong and it needs to be stopped quickly.
The funny thing about this interview is that Huckabee very well could go all the way and sometimes, it's not about the money.....in politics, it is about the "C" Factor (Charisma) and right now, Huckabee has been too cute by half with the "C" Factor.
I think I might get on the bandwagon, too. I think Tom from New Jersey got it exactly right (so far). I don[t see Huck as a professional pol despite his tenure in politics. With the possible exception of McCain and maybe Dodd for the dems, everyone of them seem groomed, to me, for their political ego. blech! enough, already. Huckabee could be for real.
Way to go Mike! Right now Huckabee is the only candidate out there from either party that is actually saying things that make sense! In fact, he is the only candidate whose campaign I have EVER contributed to, period, and I did that about a month ago. To me he is saying the right things on almost every subject. But most importantly, I think he can be believed. Whether you agree with him or not on a particular subject, what you hear is what he actually believes. I think we may finally have someone here that actually deserves to be called the President of the United States!
I don't care whether Huckabee or anyone else believes in evolution, the question is whether the president of the united states will use ideological grounds to rewrite federal scientific research.  If they aren't using the best supported science, it harms our country.  Bush has hurt the country with policies based on willful ignorance, that has to end.

In response to Michael Bennet - If Imus had said the team looked like tatooed thugs, there would have not been an issue.  He didn't say that, instead he chose racist misogynistic terminology that rightly got him fired.  Free speech doesn't mean a company has to employ him nor does it mean that listeners have to listen or advertisers have to advertise.  He can say whatever he wants on his own soapbox.
Rick in NC.  WOW, a Democratic congress with an approval rating of 11% (lowest ever...did you catch that?...EVER and still declining).  
Right here Left there (Sent Tuesday, December 04, 2007 2:02 PM)

Did you catch that the reason the Dems can't pass legislation is because the REPUBLICAN minority and the REPUBLICAN president thwart their efforts?  All of a sudden old Georgie boy has fallen in love with his veto pen, and the GOP legislators who once cried foul when Dems tried to block legislation and judicial nominees are acting as a wall to everything the Dems propose that is not in line with what the Republicans want.  That would be called obstruction.

Unfortunately, a great number of Americans don't understand that a narrow majority with the opposing party in the White House doesn't mean a whole lot when it comes to passing legislation.  
I say: Don Imus for President!


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