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Obama calls for national service

Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:46 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
MT. VERNON, IA -- If there was any doubt that Obama models himself after John F. Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln or Martin Luther King Jr. -- as a leader known to be a change agent by his vision for the future -- nothing showed it more than today's speech on national service here at Cornell College.

In Obama's call to the young people assembled in the room around him, he tried to project himself as a leader beyond the day-to-day back and forth in the Democratic primary and the larger partisan divisions between Republicans and Democrats. His message was reinforced by the endorsement of Harris Wofford, a former Pennsylvania senator from Pennsylvania who helped start the Peace Corps under Kennedy

Obama told the story of his start as a community organizer, saying that he wanted to "step into the currents of history." That message of historical change played well in front of the college-aged audience tucked away in small Iowa town. It sought to light a fire in the crowd, one that would bring them to caucus on a cold January night, even if they were not from Iowa and had to travel back to school to caucus. 

Unlike Bush, Obama said, "he would not let the moment pass" to call on Americans to do something greater than themselves. Reaching out to seniors and college students through part-time and full time service programs, Obama called for a classroom corps and an energy corps; doubling the Peace Corps; and creating incentives to volunteer (through things like tax credits).

In his speech, Obama appeared to be using national service as a bridge to bring Americans together, and to show that he could fill the large shoes of the leaders that came before.   

But is this image working? He appears to be winning over college students. In the sleet and snow last night, students trudged through campuses and yelled and cheered as Obama gave speeches at Grinnell and the University of Iowa. At these rallies with students, he uses a speech he first debuted in Spartanburg, SC, focusing more on creating a vision that is post-partisan, humanistic and global -- rather than the nitty gritty of how to create universal health care, for example.

The best example of this: Obama just received an endorsement from the "Iowa State Daily," the college newspaper of Iowa State. "He may be raw. He may be too optimistic. But he has ignited a passion for a change in the direction this country is headed," the editorial says.

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Ask not what this country can do for you (Hillary's answer: force you to buy health care with your own money), ask what you can do for this country!

Great plan and policy outline Obama!  Keep it up!  We could truly use a revolution in politics.  Obama's policy outlines are an incredible way to re-bolster American support internationally, as well as rebuild the economy.  
Way to go Barack!

Here is the news the Clinton campaign need to be worry about.

FYI: The clinton's campaign are behind the madrasa rumor, please see below.


http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/12/guy_who_received_obama_muslim_smear_email_from_hillary_county_chair_speaks.php
Bobby Kennedy Jr. recently endorsed Hillary Clinton.

Barry Obama isn't Lincoln, he isn't Kennedy, he isn't King.  He is a just another Ivy Leaguer running for President.  Just like Kerry, Gore, and Bush.
Didn't Bill Clinton call for national service?  

Didn't Clinton help start a new volunteer service?

I think so.
obama, you can model yourself on anyone, but be realisitc. Kennedy saved several mens lives during WW2 and chose military service as his whole family did... you did not.
King put his own ambitions aside and risked his life for what was right... you did not
Abraham Lincoln has a real career outside of politics before he ran for office... you did not.

All you've ever done is climb towards the next office...
accomplishing Nothing along the way.

You're a bushie.
From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
MT. VERNON, IA -- If there was any doubt that Obama models himself after John F. Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln or Martin Luther King Jr. -- as a leader known to be a change agent by his vision for the future -- nothing showed it more than today's speech on national service here at Cornell College.

Wow if that isn't proof of MSNBC's bias for Obama then I don't know what is.  They pick out three of the greatest leaders of all time and compare Obama to them just because he touts National service.  Wow, I think you need to do a little more than that before you start comparing him to Kennedy, Lincoln and MLK.  
I have never once heard Hillary or Edwards compared to any great leaders favorably on this website.  I guess we know who they want to win.  

Obama=Kennedy
Hillary=typo and mistrust

Wow!
An admirable idea swathed in fawning hyperbole by an obvious partisan. If I were to do and, "emotional scale" analysis of your little piece above, where do you think it would fall?

We SHOULD have some form of MANDATORY national service, as many other nations do, for our young people. It would help not just our country, but those enlisted in that service, be it in a capacity like the Peace Corps., or AmeriCorps, the military or one of the sub-groups mentioned by Obama. The question is if any program of that kind can have the intended impact if it is merely a voluntary program. All the flowery rhetoric in the world won't get any more than a previous president (Who oddly, isn't mentioned above)who Like JFK before him (and this guy was an ACTUAL President, mind you.)created a voluntary service program that has enlisted over two hundred thousand young people since it's inception. Barack and  Mark Murray can find that program here;

http://www.americore.gov/


Van
OBAMA 08

I just can't understand how Hillary supporters can hate this guy that bad.  Is it just because he is creating such a challenge for her?  I mean, come on, this guys exemplifies everything that I would ever hope for out of the Democratic Party.

Also, before I see one more message from Hillary supporters about Obama's purported lack of experience, remember that this is exactly what Nixon said about Kennedy.  Also remember that Bill Clinton said judgement is even more important that experience in one of his debates with Bush I.

I initially supported Edwards and I still do, but Obama is just great too.  Obama is like JFK and Edwards is like RFK.  Why not have them both?

Obama/Edwards or Edwards/Obama '08
Clinton county aide in Iowa caught sending "Obama is a Muslim" emails. Her campaign had to admit to it and fire the aide.

Yesterday she was accusing my candidate, Mr. Obama,of "dirty tricks". That crap comes back to bite you in the you know what.

OBAMA '08
Aswini Anburajan, once again, just check it yourself the language you use for Obama, and the language you used for Hillary. You are just another no soul bias. We know Kenndy well, but Obama is no Kennedy. These two can not even put together. Under what situation you can link them ? I wonder should we just send a letter to First read or MSNBC, what are you reporting and do they have any knowledge ?
"Unlike Bush, Obama said, "he would not let the moment pass" to call on Americans to do something greater than themselves."

Not fair! El Presidente Jorge told me to shop, and I don't like shopping.
Clinton county aide in Iowa caught sending "Obama is a Muslim" emails. Her campaign had to admit to it and fire the aide.

Yesterday she was accusing my candidate, Mr. Obama,of "dirty tricks". That crap comes back to bite you in the you know what.

OBAMA '08
If he truly wants to be annother Kennedy maybe Obama shouldn't be proposing to raid NASA's budget to fund the education beaurocracy.  If you want to be humanistic and global the space program is a bargin investment.  At the moment NASA gets along with Russia and the EU better than out own state department.

I'd love to vote for Obama, but cutting the knees out from under the space program is a deal breaker.  On the otherhand calling for people to volunteer is easy, free, and has no clearly measurable results!  Sounds like a typical politician(from either party) being unwilling to do anything ambitious for fear of failing.  

Maybe he ought to take this quote from JFK to heart: "We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard."
Why the hostility here? Obama tries to do something generally good, and some people come out swinging at him here? So what if he wasn't in the military like JFK....that's not what made Kennedy who he's remembered as today. Who cares if he didn't have a profession outside of politics like Abe Lincoln as one person claimed (wrongly, I might add)....is Lincoln remembered as great because he was a lawyer? These are not good reasons to hate a man
Ted Sorensen, JFK's "intellectual blood bank," endorsed Obama, and Ethel Kennedy has expressed her regards as well, so RFK Jr. isn't the final word on who is "Kennedyesque."
May we need a senior and junior president...a junior one to go around giving "rousing"  inspiring scripted speeches and a senior one to actually be there and get the work done.


We baby boomers knew John Kennedy

John Kennedy was our friend

You, Barak Obama are no John Kenndey.
I'd endorse that Obama.  Does he include military service with national service?  I don't see it mentioned above.

Van--First, thank you for actually posting with substance on the topic at hand.  I feel that our nation is founded on volunteerism, and would much rather support incentives, rather than mandates.  I agree with you on national service, but forcing somebody who doesn't have a desire to do serve would be counterproductive and detract from the program.
here's an idea Obama.... go do a few years of national service (the military, Vista, Clinton's teachiing program) and then come back to the political arena.

Try Walking the Walk, instead of just climbing
Obama/Oprah SC rally moved to 80,000 seat football stadium to accomidate demand.  18,000 seat stadium sold out 1 day.  campaign says they do don't expect to fill the stadium but wanted the ability to accomidate people on the waiting list
If Bee really believed in Barack, she wouldn't need to spend so much time in the gutter trying to smear his opponents.









Van
"Didn't Bill Clinton call for national service?  

Didn't Clinton help start a new volunteer service?

I think so"
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So is your point that this is not an original idea, or is it that Hillary was behind the scenes running this effort?
Sounds like Obama is endorsing the AmeriCorps program that Bill Clinton started in 1993.

Maybe Obama doesn't think the 90's were so bad after all.
Obama ignites nationalism in Americans like no other person. He has my votes, and that of four friends of mine.
obama, ...
You're a bushie.
Tuck,Realityville, KS

--- too harsh man. Come back to realityville.
It might just be time for all Americans who come of age to do some national service.  I guess the question is what kind of service at what level.  I would love for there to be a lot more programs that pay people to go through medical programs (doctors, nurses and other things like that) that would serve in rural and depressed urban areas for a short period (number of years of service for a number of years of school).  

I don't know how it would exactly work, but the idea that corporations could have tax credits and other incentives to work with poor performing schools and at risk students to make sure that they succeed in school.  The federal government could pay for part of R&D or small taxes like FUTA in exchange for different social services within communities with needs.  

     Just a thought!
obama inspires me! he will move this nation and the world into the 21st century. i'm an independent but am voting obama.

minda
Union Leader with Marist NH Poll Numbers

Dems: Clinton 37, Obama 23, Edwards 18, Richardson 8, Kucinich 3, Biden 1, Dodd less than 1, Undecided 10

GOP: Romney 29, Giuliani 17, McCain 17, Huckabee 11, Paul 6, Thompson 4, Hunter 2, Tancredo 1, Undecided 13

Margin of error 4%


Clinton-37
Obama-23
Edwards-18

Change since November poll:

Dems: Clinton +1, Obama -2, Edwards +4, Richardson +2, Kucinich same, Biden -1, Dodd -1, Undecided -3
GOP: Romney -4, Giuliani -5, McCain +4, Huckabee +4, Paul -1, Thompson -1, Hunter +1, Tancredo same, Undecided+1
http://thepage.time.com/more-on-the-marist-poll/

Van
"We SHOULD have some form of MANDATORY national service".  Unfortunately this is what will be the result of all this talk of national service.  I am all for volunteering.  But there is NO difference between 'mandatory national service' and being a slave of the state.  When the state assumes they will get a chunk of your life in service, things have gone too far.  People that think 'mandatory national service' will do good things for our country obviously have not seen what some of the types of our country's volunteers have done in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.  People in the army volunteered to do 'good' too.  
Obama ignites nationalism in Americans like no other person. He has my votes, and that of four friends of mine.
Bobby Kennedy Jr. recently endorsed Hillary Clinton.

Barry Obama isn't Lincoln, he isn't Kennedy, he isn't King.  He is a just another Ivy Leaguer running for President.  Just like Kerry, Gore, and Bush.

Dickie Flatts, Charlotte, NC (Sent Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:04 PM)

Just like Kerry, Gore, and Bush....and Clinton??

Didn't she go to Yale? In fact, don't a large majority of our leaders attend Ivy League schools? I guess I'm not seeing your point.


Obama, we can hardly afford plain old lettuce much less the onl kind you know about..Arugla or whatever that fancy stuff is.

National servicea great idea but those of us who do don't get the chance to go to thecollege and not Harvard, those of us who had to start workingin high school to help support our familys haven't had the luxuries yo had.

We can't sit up on our throne like you and bthink up
big ideas all day.  We have to work at jobs and w
just so our families can eat and live

your fine speeches sound relly good at first then the reality of life sets in and your words begin to sound like just so much fluff

When you have actually lived paycheck to paycheck
when you have worried about how you are going to pay the rent in a runn down place not a million dollar home like yours, whehn you are trying to work an extra job this month just to have a few extra bucks to buy teh kids Christmas presents and not the expensive ones like your kids will probably get, when you worry every day if your 1982 car is going to make it one more day to get you to work and if it doesn't then what are you going to do  when you do those things that we workiing folks are doihng just to make ends meat, then you can tlk to me and the other folk about your mighty ideas.

No obama you are notone of us


Bobby Kennedy Jr. recently endorsed Hillary Clinton.

Barry Obama isn't Lincoln, he isn't Kennedy, he isn't King.  He is a just another Ivy Leaguer running for President.  Just like Kerry, Gore, and Bush.
Dickie Flatts, Charlotte, NC (Sent Wednesday, December 05, 2007
---------------------------------------------------
...And Bobby Kennedy Jr is no Bobby Kennedy nor John F. Kennedy.  Give Obama credit, he's thinking outside the box- whereas Hillary just gives her scripted vague answers.
To have been there at the school that gave me my degree to hear him speak today. Cornell is built on service to the campus, the surrounding community, the state, and the world around the campus. It is the perfect setting for the kind of message and vision Obama holds and wants to see Americans grasp on to.

STFU, Van. He wants something bigger. He wants people to embrace helping the people around them, and not do it just because they have to, but because they WANT to. Those that WANT to, will be given credit for attending college so that they may fulfill their own dreams, whatever they may be. It is better than ANYTHING your girl, Hillary, would propose. Hell, she wants to keep our soldiers in Iraq for god sakes. Obama is talking about strengthening America for our own people. It SHOULD be America first. We've spent the last 8 years too wrapped up about what the rest of the world is doing that we've let our own backyard go to Hell. This is the BEST way of bringing it back to the shining glory it should be.
Bobby Kennedy Jr. recently endorsed Hillary Clinton.

Barry Obama isn't Lincoln, he isn't Kennedy, he isn't King.  He is a just another Ivy Leaguer running for President.  Just like Kerry, Gore, and Bush.
Dickie Flatts, Charlotte, NC (Sent Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:04 PM)

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Kennedy had Monroe, Clinton had Monica. Two peas in a pod.
obama, you can model yourself on anyone, but be realisitc. Kennedy saved several mens lives during WW2 and chose military service as his whole family did... you did not.
King put his own ambitions aside and risked his life for what was right... you did not
Abraham Lincoln has a real career outside of politics before he ran for office... you did not.

All you've ever done is climb towards the next office...
accomplishing Nothing along the way.

You're a bushie.
Tuck,Realityville, KS (Sent Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:05 PM)

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Please stop drinking Hillary's Kool-Aid.  Obama was a community organizer and a constitutional law lecturer prior to his foray into politics.  He's a self-made man who has had to work hard for his achievements...unlike some candidates who prefer to run on their spouse's record and name.  If anyone is a Bushie, it's Hillary.
stopwatchingfoxnews-your are slightly incorrect. go into their archives.

however, i not a fan of fox news either.

if you folks would do some checking and research you would find that a lot of the ideas from all the candidates aren't new. they may put a little spin on it, but most likely aren't the originators.

the key is how are they going to implement these plans and ideas.

can they get the other side of the isle and independents to work with them.

Van,

I think Obama probably knows how to find Americore and also The Corporation for National and Community Service given that he was endorsed today by the guy who not only aided Kennedy in starting the Peace Corps. but who was also the Chief Executive Officer of the Corporation for National and Community Serice from 1995 to 2001.
Tuck, Dickie and Van---What's up with the disgust and negative messages??  Obama is a democrat after all.  OK--you're not voting for the guy---but he's good. There's not denying him that.  He's probably the most ispirational person running for president for 2008.  OK--he may not get the nomination in 2008, but this guy has a chance to be a truly tranformational figure in american politics. That's something we haven't had in quite a while. Do you really want to be on the wrong side of history?
KUMBAYA , my Lord
Kum-ba-ya
O-bama  my Lord
Barack is a leader for the 21st century.  I become more impressed with him as time goes on.  For the debunkers, all I can say is, appeal to your inner honesty and see if you really can find anything wrong with what he proposes.  I maintain that a leader who can inspire our youth to do something for our nation, is a great leader.  A candidate who can inspire our people by recognizing what's good in this great country of ours, instead of trying to use fear and hate and divisiveness as a tool to gain support, deserves to be president. Obama really has a vision as opposed to an ideological agenda.  He is a man for all people.
Obama '08
Obama did not "let the moment pass" to call for on others to do something greater than themselves...story of his community organizing days...

Bet the tenants, of your friend, the indicted slumlord Tony Rezko were not wanting you and Tony to  let the moment pass in the Chicago winter when they had no heat in his buildings and they were freezing.

And what was it you said, Obama when asked about it...NO ONE TOLD ME ABOUT IT.
 
Heard that one before.

When it was time to vote on Kyl Libermann that you later said you felt so strongly about...what was it you said then...NO ONE TOLD ME ABOUT THE VOTE.

When it's time to vote for you Obama, we'll just let the moment pass and say

NO ONE TOLD ME ABOUT IT.

Obama copies Edwards - AGAIN!!
Does Obama have any ideas of his own??
Edwards released a similar plan wayyyy back in the spring.
And do we really need ANOTHER president who's used illegal drugs??  NOOOOOO!  Obama's inexperience coupled with drug use would be problematic combined with pressure in the White House.

Go Edwards!
Thank you, Barack Obama. You are a true leader and an inspiration.

http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

HA HA HA, Lee in CA  GOOD ONE.

I HATE shopping too but I'd go if George went with me and paid the bill.
Tom,  

From what I understand he didn't put the kabosh on the program just delayed it.  And in one way it does make sense.  If we don't educate our kids now there won't be anyone to work on space programs in the future.
Obama is toooo deceptive. Corporate lobbyists funded his political career until he entered the presidential race to "change Washington" - ha!  He could have stopped taking lobbyists bribe money when he came to Washington in 2005. But he didn't.
Now he's wooing the union vote WHILE supporting the Peru free trade agreement and voted FOR the Oman FTA last year!  NO unions or Labor orgs supported either bill.

John Edwards is the most trustworthy candidate - and will be a great President!


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