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Hillary volunteer sends anti-Obama email

Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:34 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Mark Murray
The liberal-leaning blog TPM is reporting that the Clinton campaign has "acknowledged that an Iowa county chair volunteering for the campaign passed along the now-notorious email" that repeats "the false claim that [Obama] attended a madrassa as a child." This comes a day after the Clinton campaign charged the Obama camp with dirty tricks and making rude phone calls to Clinton supporters.

According to TPM, the charge originated from a Dodd supporter, who wrote on the DailyKos blog that he received an email from "a Clinton county chair," who repeated the Obama-is-a-Muslim-and-was-educated-in-a-madrassa story.

The Clinton campaign's internet director, Peter Daou, responded with this comment from Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle: "There is no place in our campaign, or any campaign, for this kind of politics. A volunteer county coordinator made the mistake of forwarding an outrageous and offensive chain e-mail. This was wholly unauthorized and we were totally unaware of it. Let me be clear: No one should be engaging in this. We are asking this volunteer county coordinator to step down and are making it clear to every person involved in our campaign that this will not be tolerated."

The Clinton campaign confirms to First Read that the comment from Solis Doyle posted on DailyKos is legitimate.

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Van
Dang...Clinton's campaign was helping to spread these lies. Well as they say the crap falls from the top down. If anger and win at any cost comes from the head of the campaign what more can you expect from the workers. Not cool Clinton!
My my ...did they just accuse Obama of dirty trick because"MAYBE" a volunteer was rude?

Karma.....

All the mud she tries to throw on other people keeps coming back to her 3X over
There's no evidence that the Clinton campaign was behind the Madrassa hoax as Insight Magazine suggested...

But Jonathan Alter wrote a piece at the time last January which included this from Harold Ickes...

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“If they [bloggers] can finger you trying to drop poison into the well, you’ll be hurt by it,” Ickes adds. “Stuff moves out so quickly that campaigns have to exercise much more control over their negative information apparatus.”

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It’s certainly in no way an admission that Hillary Clinton’s "negative information apparatus" was behind the madrassa hoax. But, it’s hard not to read that as an affirmation that "well, you know, maybe we throw around a lot of nasty ideas and if people got wind of some of them, it wouldn’t look so good for us."



Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16842036/site/newsweek/
Tight like a Tiger!  Ha!

Look, she's doing the right thing.  I'll commend her for it.  This is not an example of Bush-Cheney cronyism.
News for Dec.5, 2007:

Obama channels Kennedy

Hillary channels Nixon

Seems to me this is one of the problems with going negative.  If it is okay to take some shots at your opponents, how do you control over zealous campaign workers who may step over the line of propriety?  ALL of the campaigns should take note--sometimes you embarrass and even hurt your own candidate when you engage in negative tactics.
Bravo to Camp Clinton.  I am pleased to see them step up, take responsibility, and then take action.  Bush and Co. could take a lesson from Hillary Clinton on leadership.
this is sick. i am curious that a person can be a county chair volunteer and do something like this without the campaigns knowledge of it? this sounds really dirty and ugly. county chair is not a low level volunteer worker position.
Hillary Clinton is finally exposed!!!!

What say you Carrie, Van, Disgusted, and HP Boston e.t.c?

Remember we had an explicit argument on this issue couple of weeks ago. What is your line of defense now?

Hey, CLinton is taking a page from Obama's tricks!
Except that the Obama "volunteer" was a paid staffer.


HAHA..."This comes a day after the Clinton campaign charged the Obama camp with dirty tricks and making rude phone calls to Clinton supporters."

hillary, karma also likes to play GOTCHA, not just tim russert.

GO OBAMA!!!
And they had the audacity to accuse Obama of dirty tricks?
Clinton's campaign has be pulling this crap since this spring, and not from only low level volunteers. In March high ups in her campaign told people impressed with Richardson that they shouldn't support him, because "he was a skirt chaser", (talk about hypocrisy), at least since this summer they told people who said they were impressed with Biden he was in his mid 70's, he was 64 at the time, and is less than 5 years older than Hillary. With Obama they would say that their polling data shows the country is not yet ready for an African American President. I have no clue what they say about Dodd. With Edwards they have warned that if Elizabeth's health took a turn for the worse after he was the nominee he would be in a no win position. If he stayed by her side (as he should-they would say) he would he lose valuable campaign time, and if he didn't stay by her side, he would lose support from women.

It's sad, local media has known about these reports for months, but have been reluctant to publish the stories without  the type of proof one rarely has (the actual script volunteers read, a taped phone call etc.). I hope my fellow Iowans reward this behavior by revolting against her!
America is a great country and people as well but few people are making it worst. For instance my case. I am INDIAN belong to very INTELLECTUAL and good family in INDIA and educated. Invested lots of money in USA but on APRIL 2007 I decided to bring my daughter 8 MONTHS OLD DAUGHTER and wife to USA for business cum pleasure trip and they have refused me to enter in USA coz they thought I will stay back in USA. I have occurred huge loses but no one is ready to listen to me. Where is the JUSTICE IN THE NATION WHO IS KNOWN FOR "STATUE OF LIBERTY"...I will continue to write emails on all the websites and write letters till I find JUSTICE. Please help me to HIGHLIGHT my case please there are lots of innocent people out there who are not CULPRITS but they are hurt from BUSH regime.
You are really earning your keep as Hillary Clinton shill.  How the hell does this compare to "rude" calls?  When Fox Noise reported months ago that this smear originated from the Clinton Campaign it was dismissed, now you want to downplay it as the act of a rogue volunteer.  Do you your damn job!  They just obtained a copy of the email string.  This goes deeper than just one volunteer.
The Clinton campaign takes 'swiftboating' and 'mud-slinging' to a new level.  Obviously, this e-mail was not carried out by a low-level volunteer without the blessings of the senior campaign operatives.  Hillary has no business questioning anyone's character, morality and ethics.  The fact of the matter is that Hillary will take whatever measures to get to the Oval Office, even if she has to throw the Democratic party under the bus.
You guys call yourselves journalists?  Yeah Yeah Yeah, we get it, they are slinging mud.. what's new?
I wonder how many times the Clinton campaign will issue disclaimers before people catch on that this is planned.  When it comes to campaign smear tactics, it's hard to distinguish between Bush and Clinton campaigns.
Yeah the hell right. Clinton is a dirty player. They knew about this!! This is ridiculous. How in the world can people actually vote for her?
I will NEVER vote for HILLARY CLINTON!! But i also will never spread lies just so someone will vote for the candidate of my choice. This is dirty. I wonder if this Iowa county chair also goes by the name "Tuck, realityville".

Vote Obama 08
How do you spell melt-down....

HILLARY
This is serious and could blow up and doom her candidacy.

The Hillary County Chair e-mailed this smear to the Hillary campaign staffer (and Dodd guy)Nov. 20th.

15 DAYS AGO!

Why wasn't he fired on the spot? Why wait until the media gets a hold of it today? Because they got caught.

The Hillary camp is connected to this on both the front and back end.
Now it is clear I will never vote a bigote like HRC. it is very sad that the lady is losing her mind. If she cannot handle a poll, how will she handle our NATIONAL SECURITY. hummmm.
Either the people running Clinton's campaign are running a very loose ship, or they are playing the "get it out there" - "who, me?" game.  I suspect it is the latter, in which case she more definitively cements my determination to not allow her anywhere near the White House.  Though the more time that passes, the more I think that if John Edwards doesn't get the nomination, I'll sit this one out, or write in Stephen Colbert.  Then this country will deserve what it gets with President, Il Duce, President Moron, or President Willfully Ignorant Theocrat.
As a Hillary supporter, I am appauled someone would do this.  There is no place for it.  I know people will spin this saying Hillary is behind it, but let's be honest, every campaign has the over zealous volunteer and by no means does that mean the candidates themselves approve of it.  
More bad news for Clinton. Baracks & Oprahs rally has just moved to the football stadium at the University of South Carolina. There will be many more than 18,000 in attendance. First Read your slow or slipping with the news. We all know that the Clinton team was behind the Anti-OBAMA email. The good news for OBAMA IS IT'S ALL FALSE INFORMATION and proven to be which means this is one less cards the repulicans can play when OBAMA GETS THE NOD. BILLIARY IS KILLING HERSELF,SHE IS A POOR CAMPAIGNER UNLIKE HER HUSBAND WHO I VOTED FOR TWICE
Pretty clear the link to Hillary has been established on both ends. This was sent from a Hillary County chair to a Hillary campaign staffer

15 DAYS AGO.

Why wasn't the HRC Co. chair who sent this fired immediately? Answer: Because they just got caught today!

That speaks volumes to me and should doom her candidacy. Disgraceful
How do you say WOW...?

Hillary Clinton what the hell are you doing... I hope many of the African Americans supporting you, begin to take a second look....Do you have absolutely no control over your campaign.

And every time something like this happens, your campaign continues to say... We will not tolerate this type of behavior.... This is unacceptable.... How many more times will you and your campaign apologize?

All of America better wake-up....This lady wants to win by any means necessary and I mean any means. She will lie, she will cheat; she will sell her soul to the Devil if her campaign told her to.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Her campaign must have taken notes from the people who sabotage Harold Ford Jr. Senate Run in Tennessee

If the Propaganda worked to defeat Harold Ford Jr. why not try it on another man of Color.
So who has been playing Dirty??? Sen. Clinton....complaining about mudslinging when you have been doing the DIRTIEST type of campaigning...this is exactly why this "bitch" can't be trusted.
So who has been playing Dirty??? Sen. Clinton....complaining about mudslinging when you have been doing the DIRTIEST type of campaigning...this is exactly why this "bitch" can't be trusted.
Barack Obama's response can be seen here. Anyone receiving these false smear emails can go here:

http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/category/

Here is an article:

http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=62743

quote:
Bandung said he had heard the rumor that Obama went to a radical Islamic school. He showed a picture of Obama with the Scout group.
"The girls wore miniskirts. There's no way miniskirts would be allowed at a madrassa," he said. Another photo of teachers at the school shows both males and females wearing Western-style clothing. The women are also wearing miniskirts.

Proof, please, Tuck!
Oh, come on! The Clinton Kindergarten thing about Obama? It was just a joke! Same thing with the Obama being Muslim e-mail. It's all just a joke!

Obama needs to grow a sense of humor.

If Hillary ever leaves politics, she should do a stand-up comic act. And yes, she's that good.
Not surprised that her campaign was linked to this smear of a good Democrat, Barack Obama. Her supporters on various blogs on the web have been making similar comments(like in the email) for weeks now. Disgusting does not begin to describe her campaign.
Proof, please, Tuck!

Jessica, Wisconsin (Sent Wednesday, December 05, 2007 4:58 PM)

Good luck with that, Jessica. They have never heard of that concept in Realityville.
I am still expecting my answer Carrie and Co. I am also disappointed that Chris Dodd campaign was involved.

Like I have been saying in the past, this election is for democrats to win but nominate Hillary will doom the party.

Her negatives keep going up because of her ruthless way. Remember those women that were threatening because they had an affair with Bill.

I hope these democrats wake up before it is too late. If anything, nominate someone that has family values. I know the Clintons can't boost of this. Please get off your Hillary’s cool aid and nominate someone that is best for the future of this country.
Pica Typee, Are you for real?
Oh, come on! The Clinton Kindergarten thing about Obama? It was just a joke! Same thing with the Obama being Muslim e-mail. It's all just a joke!

Obama needs to grow a sense of humor.

If Hillary ever leaves politics, she should do a stand-up comic act. And yes, she's that good.

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Another spin from the Clinton's machine. The damage has been done and the verdict is out on the Clinton's campaign.

They cannot be trusted.
What say you Carrie, Van, Disgusted, and HP Boston e.t.c?

Remember we had an explicit argument on this issue couple of weeks ago. What is your line of defense now?


Bee (Sent Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:54 PM)


I did not take part in that argument.  If you notice, the campaign itself did not sanction the email - a volunteer did it and that volunteer is being asked to step down.  As Dot noted, with high emotions come over zealous campaign staff.  It's unfortunate, but Hillary and her campaign are doing the right thing.
Jennifer, I live in Iowa and I have experienced no negative tactics by any of the campaigns - including Hillary's campaign.  
BEe...have patience, not everyone lives and breathe hatred the way you do.
Bravo to Camp Clinton.  I am pleased to see them step up, take responsibility, and then take action.  Bush and Co. could take a lesson from Hillary Clinton on leadership.

DickieFlatts, Charlotte, NC

What world do you live in?  They admitted the person was a Clinton volunteer. And lets be clear this came from a "County Coordinator" this is a high level volunteer. They had no choice but to admit it, e-mails have addresses Dodd's campaign had written proof of Clinton's high level volunteer sending this sleazy crap. They couldn't originally deny it like they did with the college student plant story. And what action did they take? Has she been removed as county chair? The story doesn't say, my guess is NO.

And Bee, NH it's my understanding Dodd's role was only in turning the Clinton campaign in. They were disgusted by it, as every one should. Carrie won't chime in, because even she can't defend this.

this is sick. i am curious that a person can be a county chair volunteer and do something like this without the campaigns knowledge of it? this sounds really dirty and ugly. county chair is not a low level volunteer worker position.

ace p washington, d.c.

No it's not, and some of the people spreading lies about other candidates are big name people, not merely County chairs (Iowa has 99 counties) But people who are head of her state committee.

"As a Hillary supporter, I am appauled someone would do this.  There is no place for it.  I know people will spin this saying Hillary is behind it, but let's be honest, every campaign has the over zealous volunteer and by no means does that mean the candidates themselves approve of it.  

Stopwatchingfoxnews, NY "  Stop watch if this were an isolated event I'd agree with you, but her campaign has been doing this crap for almost a year, I personally spoke with two of the state legislators that endorsed her about her campaigns lies about Biden's age, and asked if they could get the practice to stop, and as near as I can tell only the local office got the message.
I admire Hillary Clinton and her campaign.

Unlike other slinging mud campaigns she tells the truth and is not afraid to stand up and admit when someone in her group goofs up.

Hillary is a stand up gal and I'm voting for her.

You go, Girl.

Finally! The Clinton campaign's hands have been caught in the cookie jar.  This kind of trash has been going on from their campaign for months behind the scenes with little but a whisper by the news media.  I have read this trash being passed around by her supporters.  I was hoping, like Stopwatchingfoxnews, that this was just isolated cases of overzealous supporters, but now that I see that the same filth is coming from Clinton's own campaign staff I know where this type of trash from her supporters has been coming from all along.  She and her campaign should be ashamed.
One final point, the email in question was originally sent back on Nov. 15.  This raises serious questions:  How long has the Clinton campaign known about the email before they acted on it today?  How many other similar emails did these campaign staffers/volunteers send out after Nov. 15 but before today?
BEe...have patience, not everyone lives and breathe hatred the way you do.
Carrie, Eastern Iowa
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Your comment above is another reason why i can't vote for Hillary Clinton. I just don't see my self voting for her.

If, indeed, Clinton's campaign is sorry, are they going to send out another email to these supporters denouncing what they've done?

Here is another take on this story, why did it take them so long to fire the person that did it? Are you suggesting that the hired up within the campaign don't know about this underground smear?

This is exactly what the Clintons does best; smear their opponent with false story and pretend as if they are innocent.

It is a shame

 Jennifer IC, IA,

I do applaud your candor in this matter and thanks for further clarification.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that Hillary's dirty tactics is bad for the party. This seems to be a pattern that is going to collapse the party if nothing is done about it.

Hillary’s way or no way for others
Lieing about Joe Biden's age
Spreading rumor about John Edward
Spreading rumor about Richardson's taste for women
and finally got caught about the rumor about madrasa.

i was old enough to remember the first clinton campaign. i liked mr. clinton. i voted for him. i can say truthfully that the tactics you all are seeing that keep getting disclaimers from hillary's campaign are the same footprints used when mr.clinton ran.

sorry to let the hillary supporters no this but it is the truth.

one other little fact. if anyone really wants to know the truth. hillary was making jabs at obama without using his name for a long time. he didn't start firing back until october. remember every one kept telling him he needed to defend himself? it is just the truth. i am amazed how mrs. clinton is spinning the truth on that issue.

john edwards was in attack mode towards hillary, but he never got personal he stayed on the issues. now he is setting back laughing.

hillary is the only one engaging in character bashing. some of the things she is saying, writing and insinuating are just wrong. attack issue differences not people. she is really turning a lot of us independents off.
Jennifer, I live in Iowa and I have experienced no negative tactics by any of the campaigns - including Hillary's campaign.  

Carrie, Eastern Iowa

I don't doubt that is true, because you probably never had a Clinton staffer call you and ask who would you support if the caucus were held today, and answered I'm leaning Obama, Edwards, Richardson, or Biden. Unless you did why would they trash any other candidate. I assume that they are doing a hatchet job on Dodd as well, but I haven't heard anything. My parents were personally told the "skirt chasing" by a very high up in the Clinton campaign. They've known the women for 30 years and I'm sure she wasn't worried they would turn her in.

The lies about Biden's age are being told in calls through out the state, not just the Cedar Rapids /Iowa City  area. You can believe it's by chance that people in Independence, Sioux City, Mason City, Burlington have all been told lies about Biden's age by chance and not as part of a coordinated effort, but sorry I don't buy that.

The stuff about Obama is being spread by Clinton's camp in rural Iowa, less so in larger communities where the risk of back firing is greater.

Carrie, you won't believe anything bad about Hillary even if you see it with your own eyes. Have fun caucusing for her, and when all the crap comes out about the under the radar dirty tricks comes out, allow yourself to believe "everyone does it". But the fact of the matter is that everyone doesn't do it, and it is wrong.
what you folks that belong to a party don't realize is this. us independents will watch, research, check facts and seek the truth before we decide who we will support.

we are the largest block of voters that can swing the nomination for any candidate. hillary is making a lot of the other candidates look good. she is starting to really turn the independents off. she needs to be careful.


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