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Huck: Romney faces less Q's on faith

Posted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:35 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC’s Domenico Montanaro
Huckabee bristles about the depth to which he’s asked questions about his faith in an interview with GQ and contends that, comparatively, Romney gets far less scrutiny of his Mormon faith.

“No one’s just kept pressing and pressing and going into the details of his doctrine,” Huckabee says of Romney.

Here’s an excerpt:
So, generally, do you think it’s fair for people to take a candidate’s theological convictions into consideration at the polling place?
As long as everyone gets the same scrutiny. That’s what I don’t think is fair: I’ve been given an unusual level of scrutiny. No candidate gets quizzed to the depth that I do about faith.

Really? Even Mitt Romney?
He hasn’t gotten nearly as much for his Mormonism as I have for being a Baptist. I mean, I’ve never heard the kind of interviews with him that I got from Bill O’Reilly or Wolf Blitzer. No one’s just kept pressing and pressing and going into the details of his doctrine. Not that I’ve heard.

In the past, being a minister was your job.
Okay, but are you quizzing Rudy Giuliani about being a lawyer? I haven’t been a pastor in sixteen years. I mean, if you want to go back sixteen years and ask Fred Thompson, “What were you doing?” I don’t mind; I just think that there’s—

But don’t voters have the right to know whether you believe in, say, evolution?
Only if I were saying that I would, as president, do everything I could to prevent the teaching of certain things. But I’m not. The president doesn’t choose eighth-grade textbooks in science. Those are school-board decisions.

Okay, so, you’re running for school board: What would you say?
I think people should be exposed to evolution. They should be taught that, yes, this is the prevailing scientific view, but that there are others who happen to view things differently.

How do you view things?
I wasn’t there; I don’t know. When I get these detailed questions, I just say that I believe that God did it and that I just don’t know how he did it.

So you’re more of an agnostic on evolution.
I would never want that word ascribed to me. Here’s the point I want to make: Even if I had very adamant views about eschatology or creationism, I don’t go out as president and say this is the only view Americans should have.

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Kind of puts the lie to the claim that Huckabee knows nothing of the efforts to sink Romney's campaign with questions about his Morman faith and doesn't approve of those smears, doesn't it?
With a name like Obama, he's clearly a muslim...so insofar as Hillary's campaign is concerned, "There's nothing dirty going on!"
Maybe Huckabee wouldn't get the questions on his faith to such a degree if he didn't advertise his faith as a selling point so much.  Maybe that's the reason, hmmmm?  I don't see Romney blabbing Mormon this and Mormon that.  He does powerpoint.

I would fight teaching the scientifically baseless creationism (or intelligent design, which is synonymous with creationism) in schools, just as much as I would fight teaching evolution in church.  Actually, I'm Catholic, so evolution is okay.  Why is Cathoicism such a progressive religion?   :  )
I don't care what religion any of the candidates are.  I am not voting for the leader of my church I am voting for my President.  Romney is right on the issues important to me.  He is a man with great values and I think he has the right vision for America.  We in Iowa need to look at this nomination process from a larger picture.  Huckabee cannot win the nomination. He may win Iowa and that would be a great story.  All that would do is help Rudy in the long run. A vote for him is a vote for Rudy. I think that people should look at Romney a little closer, when you do, take religion out of it.  If you can't look at him fairly, what does that say about you?  
You've got to be kidding me.  I've thought Huckabee was relatively likeable and have considered voting for him, but that is the dumbest thing I have heard him say.  Nobody has been hounding him to give a JFK style speech on being a Baptist.  No poll is being taken to determine how many people in America would not vote for a Baptist, and no push poll is out there telling people lies about what the Baptist supposedly believe.

Romney was also asked about evolution and gave a concise answer.  He's been asked time and time again to give a speech on his religion.  He's been asked about polygamy (something not practice by him ever, or by his religion in well over 100 years).  

So, Huckabee, quit whining.  You have been flying under the radar.  In the debates you've had it easy, you are rarely drilled or asked the hard questions.  In a debate, I've heard you drilled on illegals and taxes.  I've never heard you truly debated on your stance on the war, economy or healthcare.  Instead you've been asked about the Bible and what Jesus would do about the death penalty (which you artfully dodged- I don't even know how YOU feel about the death penalty). Before I can consider voting for you, I have to know you can defend your position on the issues that matter.  If you don't want to answer religious questions (which I agree are mostly irrelevant to a political campaign), than redirect the asker to you platform and the real presidential issues.
All he's saying is don't ask the particular details of each candidate's faith. AND if you are, then ask everyone the same question.

I don't see anything wrong in that statement. Huckabee has said before that Romney is just as qualified to be President regardless of his religious beliefs.
By the way, wasn't Huckabee the one who made the commercial claiming to be the "Real Christian" candidate?  All the media reviews see that as a dig at Romney's religion.

And Huckabee claims that "no one" keeps pressing Romney on the doctrine of his religion?  Really?  He must be really unaware of Romney's campaign... or he's lying.  

Sorry, but those comments made me lose a lot of respect for the guy.  As I've said before, I don't think religion should be a factor in the presidential election.  But Huckabee's comments make him sound like he's having a pity party- not very attractive for a potential future president.
The republicans are jockeying for which can be them most backward.. and the winner.. gets to be the nominee!
There are several Creation Myths at work in this Country, not just the Christian one. If one is taught, they all should be taught. Some Originals have the 'Turtle Island' myth, others as varied as crawling out of a Giant Clam or coming out from a Cave. The Brahmins have the 'Sea of Milk'. Buddhists believe there has always been life and there will always be life, somewhere in the endless universe. Corvette Owners believe the World began in 1954. Shouldn't these things be taught in the places where they are worshipped, church, temple, mosque, forest, Chevrolet Dealership, etc, instead of public schools?  Evolution is the Scientific answer to how life happened. Mythology is the Poetic answer.
Huckabee has to be joking!!  You are the one that put Christian Leader in a TV ad.  Why wouldn't you be asked more questions?  That's like Lieberman putting Jewish leader in an ad when he was running for President.
People are asking questions about your doctrine because you are advertising yourself as a "Christian" Candidate.  When you put your religion up front and in people's faces the way you do you have to expect to be asked about it.  Last time I checked everyone running for president this cycle is Christian.
Huck may be starting to get questions on his religion because that's all he talks about! That's his platform.  Romney gets lots even though he tries not to bring it up.  It's not his platform.  Romney runs on real political issues. Romney gets questioned so it can be held against him. Huck is asked because he's a silly toy with silly answers for the media this week.  
Huckabee is ridiculous to say that more people ask him about what he believes than Gov. Romney.

The only reason Gov. Romeny has not run away with the Nomination yet is that sadly Americans are sectist...not racist, but judge other based on the religious sect they are a part of. I have only seen one interview- Sean Hannity who did not bring it up.

I mean the man has to give a speech on his faith tomorrow.
Romney has my vote and my support.

Huckabee's a good guy but his record shows he is not ready to be President...too many taxes, too many mistakes and not enough results. America cannot afford to have another Politician from Hope Arkansas, we had enough with Bill and Hill.
WaaaWaaa! You have got to be kidding me! Mitt has not been hammered? Make me laugh! Who is out of touch?
Looks like you're past is starting to catch up with you, Mike. See you in the unemployment line!
I used to like Huckabee until I find out he thinks The LDS/Mormon Church isn't Christian.  I could never vote for a whiner like that who complains that no one else is getting asked hard Q's about his faith.  He hasn't had anything compared to Romney.  Romney is definitely who I am voting for.  Everything he touches prospers.  I'd love to see him reform Washington!  No one should possibly think there is not a change needed there.  I am definitely going for Mitt Romney and hope Mike Huckabee loses big.  What a bigot in Huckabee!
I came to the stark realization that the presidential candidate was emphasizing that during his chance to be heard on presidential issues, GQ instead was focusing on hammering away at his faith?  It's this sort of dichotomous keying that splits someone from a mission to reach goals of spreading a political message and instead leaves the candidate bantering the entire article length about politically-irrelevant theological doctrine.  

All of the presidential candidates, like it or not, whether or not they ascribe to Christian theology know that the Christian vote is a minority vote, and catering solely to that base will do nothing but incur the wrath of liberal media and undermine their true political agenda.

Consequently, it's a bit of a shame that the magazine wasted the interview by focusing on the lust for reader count and advertising revenue gained by hazing of years gone by instead of allowing a man his chance to detail a proposed plan for the future.

Joe, Lehi, UT, I have heard Baptist people say that Catholics are not Christians, but I still wonder if Joseph Smith were to start the same Church today, what would the prevalent thought be about the LDS. No new 20th century prophets have been taken seriously and most have been judged as cult leaders.
It's amazingly sad to me that so many evangelical Iowans would be so bigoted towards Romney's religion that they would support Huckabee.  Can they not see that they are just handing their vote to Giuliani by eliminating Romney?

It's a terrible shame.  There are a lot of things I don't like about Romney, but IMHO he has the strongest credentials of anyone in both parties.  There is no one other than perhaps Giuliani that has the experience to run the nation.  He has been reasonably successful governor in a tough state for a republican and managed to work with the liberal democrats effectively to get things done.  He has more experience running a business and streamlining organizations than any of the candidates put together.  Despite his politically expedient flip-flopping positions, he has been a faithful husband, and a good father.  I believe he would be a good example for a nation whose families are falling apart.
well, not to worry, romney just has too many problems, starting with his stupidity. if you're going to attack, make sure your own house is in order. he didn't.
AHHHHHHHH!!!! I just can't take this Huckabee guy any more today! Where is his head? How can he possibly be whining about religion questions when it hurts him but pushing his religion when it helps him? He's been going into places like NH and saying his faith doesn't define his political actions and he's not a dogma leader, but his commercials and church-based network belie that claim. He's getting no political support based on policies, he's getting church groups to push him at bake sales. Oh, this whole thing makes me not want to vote. Moron.
not to worry, romney has severe problems, starting with his stupidity. if you're going on the attack, make sure your own house is in order. he didn't.
To elect Romney would be effectivly putting the Mormon church in control of this country. Ask Mitt if he would disobey his prophet, the leader of his church. His religion demands complete obediance to the leader of the church
Mitt tries to avoid talking about his faith because he knows if he has to start answering specific doctrine questions, he'll look very uncomfortable and he's afraid that some uninformed evangelicals will find out some of the "out of the mainstream" beliefs that Mormons hold: Jesus & Satan were once brothers, you can be baptized for dead people, there are 3 levels of heaven, they don't believe in the trinity, etc.  
Rev. Huck gets attention for his religion because he wear it on his sleeve. When it's convenient for him, he lets everyone know about it. Now that it's inconvenient, he whines like a schoolgirl.

He's dangerous.
Ask Mitt what role women have in the Morman church and how they are able to reach heaven.  The Morman church does not treat women as equal to men.  Is this the type of influence we want from our president?  Give it alot of thought.
I wonder how Rev. Huckabee's faith influenced the Dumond case? Was his forgiveness urge stronger than his punishment urge?
Ive listen to both party debates.Not like the old days each party candidate went after each other. They answer the questions there asked (even those planted)I'am a christian and were not like the old churches of the 50's-60's where there response was "we do not get involved".The christians will vote for what the candidates moral beliefs are-The right to life-same sex marriage things we use to call American Values I really do not care about beating Hillary- I care about America and will vote American.Huckabee where did he come from they ask? Think Christian vote.
I have been reading a lot of the blogs tonight, they mostly deal with Mitt,Huckabee,or Hillary. A few of us at work yesterday were wondering why no one is attacking the most immoral, the most deceptive and the least qualified to be our next President (Rude Rudy)? Why are we in denial?
I thought his whole premise for his campaign is that he is the "Christian Canidate".  The standard bearer for the moral majority.  The more I start looking at this fellow, the less I like him.  I am going back to McCain.  At least I know where he stands on the issues and he doesn't whine.
What an idiot Huckabee is.  Does he honestly believe people aren't questioning Romney about his faith?  That Romney is getting less questions?  Romney is being brutalized over his faith.  Is this how Huckafool encourages people to try and attack Romney for being Mormon even more so?
It's true. Romney can't disobey his prophet, the leader of his church. The Mormon church is law and has continually changed it's rules over the years to fit it's needs. Let's not forget that 25 years ago black elders were not aloud in the church. Black members were subordinate. So where does that leave Colin Powell and Condi Rice?

Main stream Christianity does not change it's rules because the Christian God does not change.  But, Huckabee should not even claim to be a "Christian Candidate" unless he's prepared to explain it away to death.

Romney should EXPECT to be quized about his religion. He has to know that it would be a huge step for a Mormon to be elected to office.  I'm afraid when he finally does come clean with it, too many of the beliefs are not going to sit right with mainstream Americans. Let's face it. Even non-liberal women aren't going to buy into the idea that your husband has to be the one to pave your way to heaven....and I sure as heck don't want a President that thinks that obscure.
Dave in Mo, If you think the beliefs you listed sound silly or discredit Romney then you need to ask yourself if they are any harder to believe than virgin birth or raising ones self from they dead, or manna from heaven or a man commanding the red sea to part. And my personal favorite, that the Mormon belief that the trinity is three beings (a father and a son and a holy ghost) is harder to believe than three are one and one came not to do his will but, the will of him who sent him  but, he is the one who sent himself, or "not my will but thine be done" but i am you. All are faith based and not accepted by scientific analysis. Either you believe or you don't who cares that it is not your faith. It has little bearing on the issues of government of the nation
"The woman provided Huckabee with her personal phone number in hopes that he or at least someone on his staff would call. She says that she never heard back.

What was left unsaid in her letter to Huckabee was that she was three years old when, in the 1970s, Dumond raped her mother. The girl was in her mother's bed asleep when the rape occurred. Dumond held a butcher's knife to her mother's throat during the assault.

In an interview, her mother told the Huffington Post how she fought with Dumond to wrestle the knife away from him, willing to risk her own life rather than suffer at Dumond's hands.

But Dumond overcame her resistance. He pointed to her daughter sleeping next to her and threatened: "If you don't cooperate with me, she'll be next."

The woman did as she was told. As Dumond continued to violently rape her, the woman recalled, she lay consciously and deliberately silent. Even as she was being assaulted, she gently stroked her daughter's hair, praying she would not wake up.

When the assault was over, the woman said, Dumond threatened to come back and rape and kill her daughter if she told anyone."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/04/documents-expose-huckabee_n_75362.html
"The woman provided Huckabee with her personal phone number in hopes that he or at least someone on his staff would call. She says that she never heard back.
What was left unsaid in her letter to Huckabee was that she was three years old when, in the 1970s, Dumond raped her mother. The girl was in her mother's bed asleep when the rape occurred. Dumond held a butcher's knife to her mother's throat during the assault. In an interview, her mother told the Huffington Post how she fought with Dumond to wrestle the knife away from him, willing to risk her own life rather than suffer at Dumond's hands. But Dumond overcame her resistance. He pointed to her daughter sleeping next to her and threatened: 'If you don't cooperate with me, she'll be next.' The woman did as she was told. As Dumond continued to violently rape her, the woman recalled, she lay consciously and deliberately silent. Even as she was being assaulted, she gently stroked her daughter's hair, praying she would not wake up. When the assault was over, the woman said, Dumond threatened to come back and rape and kill her daughter if she told anyone."
The republican party has painted themselves into a corner when they decided to get the religious right in their corner. Now they have a Mormon who doesn't exactly fit the mold they have formed. Then the leader of the Christian Coalition who was bragging that he could throw thirty million votes behind the candidate of his choosing before his Boyfriend blew the whistle on him(no pun intended). We are talking about electing a president not an Ayatollah.  
If Mormons aren't Christians, then neither are Baptists.  They were both founded long after Christ founded Christianity by people based on their own interpretations of the religion.  Orthodox Christianity on the other hand was founded by Christ and the religion and its practice have not changed since then.  There is no Joseph Smith, or John Wesley or whomever.  I think it's ridiculous to claim that evangelicals are true Christians and other "sects" are not.  
So it's fair for people to disregard the no religious test clause in the Constitution as long as they do it to each candidate with equal scrutiny?  What the hell is Huckabee talking about?

It's too bad he was less afraid of violating the Constitution than he was having the word agnostic ascribed to him.  

I don't know what irritates me more, this statement by Huckabee, or Romney's hypocrisy in discriminating against Muslims for cabinet position while wanting different sects of Christianity to be treated equally.  I suppose Romney is slightly worse, but neither position will fly in a general election.
Romney brought his "faith' into his campaign from the starting gate. He likes to bring it up that he believes "in God, Jesus Christ and the Bible," But let anyone ask him anything about his religion, much less that his God and Jesus are not the God and Jesus of the Bible, instead of misleading voters who know no difference, and he bristles, wound tight, and starts throwing out 'politically incorrect' accusations and name-calling, like "Un-American" and "Bigot" and "Intolerant," slinging his arms around like the Lost in Space robot...HE Knows how to back voters down.

Sure, keep religion out of politics. Only in our dreams. Why do people try to keep 'religion and politics' out of converations? They Do go together. And it IS a sticky subject. And there is A LOT OF POLITICS in LDS scriptures.

And when someone's 'religion' is so 'political' SOMEONE better be asking questions. If Romney won't answer goto:

http://www.massresistance.org
for Romney's Terrible (documented)UN-Conservative, IMmoral record in Massachusetts. Massresistance.org is a Conservative group in MA. (NOT receiving Romney's 'donations' for support--NYTimes 03/11/07).

http://www.utlm.org
headed by renown LDS scholars and ex-LDS (husband and wife team). A wealth of documented information, POLITICAL and theological..a lot LDS probably don't want 'outsiders' to know. MANY excellent links and resources.(fyi: also documented info of LDS members' involvement in WATERGATE.simply type 'watergate' in search for the site).They have many LDS books online and many exerpts of LDS books(not just the ones LDS want 'outsiders' to read, but well-rounded offering of resources).

http://www.beyondmormonism.com
another source of documented information. Like utlm, they also reach out to LDS, not just 'outsiders.' Also, many excellent links and resources. Excellent documentaries available.

"The God Makers"
Book. Much information, Including LDS POLITICS, LDS OATH OF VENGENCE AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES, peeling back LDS 'deep doctrine'. One co-author was member for 19 years, was member of The Melchizedek Priesthood/a high priest, and a Temple LDS-Mormon (As, so, is Romney, a 'Melchizedek priest'/high priest and 'Temple Mormon').Includes info on LDS Doctrine of Blood Atonement, LDS "Danite" Band(LDSsecret special ops force, some argue it's operations today), the LDS armies, militias and LDS troops against US citizens and state/federal troops, LDS doctrine of U.S./world-control, LDS doctrine of plural wives, much more. Incl. excellent bibliography resources.
There is also a documentary by same title. I haven't seen it. Also, another The God Makers II. I heard it isn't as unbiased as #1. So, I haven't read it.

"Mormonism Momma and Me"
Book. Of one woman's eyes being opened and her journey out. Includes information on LDS Doctrine of Blood Atonement, of plural wives, LDS Bigotry, LDS OATH OF VENGENCE AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES, facsimiles of records.

These sources all have references to more outstanding resources. LDS will call them, AND me, "anti" LDS/Mormonism. They have a list of ugly names and Hurl them sharply.I am not against any LDS person. As a loyal US citizen, I must be 'against' their POLITICAL teachings. I love my LDS family and friends. I also love my country.

I did hear Huckabee, on C-span. He was asked to explain how his religious beliefs affect his politics. He did NOT get hot under the collar, he did NOT tell the audience to read a book or look up his 'church,' he did not turn and walk away or start to leave the room. He patiently explained, even if he is tired of the onslaught. Romney and Huckabee both put their religions into their campaigns. So let them answer voters, questions. I,too, wish folks would ask more about the war and the debt and healthcare and globalwarming...Huck's got some facing-up to do.
There's numerous comments posted here that I take issue with, but I'll stick to the title of the article and ask this question.

How many times in the DEBATES did Romney get asked about  Mormon beliefs? How many times has Romney been asked about the specifics of his faith in interviews?

Look up transcripts of Huckabee being interviewed by Bill o'Reilly, Chris Wallace, WolF Blitzer, and Tim Russert. Read the transcripts of the Republican debates and see how many times Huckabee is asked specific questions about his beliefs.

Romney's faith is only discussed by bloggers and pundits but HE has never been asked to clarify his beliefs by an interviewer or debate moderator like Huckabee has.

So NO Huckabee's statement is not unfounded. Romney is never asked specific questions and the beliefs of the Mormons (like some stated on this thread) are never aired by the media because its a minority religion and those who believe it are given a free pass.

But traditional chrisitianity whether it be protestant or catholic is a belief held by the majority and therefore its fair game to question and attack.

Huckabee isn't whining he's calling the media on their BS.


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