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Rudy on Iran, Romney speech

Posted: Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:30 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ's Matthew Berger
SARASOTA, Fla. -- Giuliani said the United States needed to be "cautious" about listening to a new intelligence report regarding Iran’s nuclear weapon program, but said the report’s findings show that a tough position against Iran has worked. 

“The best way to make sure they don’t resume is to make it clear that we will not allow them to become a nuclear power,” he said today at a press conference. “And if we’re clear about that, I think the sanctions would have a better chance of working. If we become ambiguous, if we go back to a more defensive posture … it would seem to me that would be a mistake.”

Giuliani said he was cautious because the report said it was “highly confident” that Iran had suspended its nuclear program in 2003, but only “moderately confident” that it hadn’t resumed it later.

“You have to pause at the two different standards,” he said.

Giuliani also said he agreed with everything he heard in Romney’s speech in Houston Thursday.

“I thought Gov. Romney said everything I agree with,” he said. “Everything he said, at least the parts that I heard, I think I heard most of it, I agree with.”

He used the question to showcase his view on religious tolerance.

“I guess it would be better if he didn’t have to do that,” he said. “This is no reflection on Gov. Romney, he did what he thought he had to do. But from the point of view that you would wish that everybody would move beyond that. I believe his talk helped to put that issue to rest.

“There is no religious test for office," he said. "There shouldn’t be any religious test for office.”

Giuliani picked up the endorsement Thursday of the 10-13 Association, which represents retired New York Police Department officers. He will also participate at his second online house party.

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Why is it when a report says something that fits their rhetoric, they want everyone to follow it w/o questioning even if there is evidence that the report is worthless...but when a report comes out that doesn't agree with their rhetoric...suddenly we need to be careful about following reports?
Giuliani said the United States needed to be "cautious" about listening to a new intelligence report regarding Iran’s nuclear weapon program, but said the report’s findings show that a tough position against Iran has worked.

“The best way to make sure they don’t resume is to make it clear that we will not allow them to become a nuclear power,” he said today at a press conference. “And if we’re clear about that, I think the sanctions would have a better chance of working. If we become ambiguous, if we go back to a more defensive posture … it would seem to me that would be a mistake.”

Giuliani said he was cautious because the report said it was “highly confident” that Iran had suspended its nuclear program in 2003, but only “moderately confident” that it hadn’t resumed it later.

“You have to pause at the two different standards,” he said.

Giuliani also said he agreed with everything he heard in Romney’s speech in Houston Thursday.

“I thought Gov. Romney said everything I agree with,” he said. “Everything he said, at least the parts that I heard, I think I heard most of it, I agree with.”

He used the question to showcase his view on religious tolerance.

“I guess it would be better if he didn’t have to do that,” he said. “This is no reflection on Gov. Romney, he did what he thought he had to do. But from the point of view that you would wish that everybody would move beyond that. I believe his talk helped to put that issue to rest.

“There is no religious test for office," he said. "There shouldn’t be any religious test for office.”

Giuliani picked up the endorsement Thursday of the 10-13 Association, which represents retired New York Police Department officers. He will also participate at his second online house party.
It would be a great benefit to the electorate if the groups that endorse candidates reveal why they do so.
I am really amazed that any group of firemen or policemen in NYC would endorse Rudy for anything.Are they that insensitive to the families of their "brothers'?
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To Chris Matthews:

With regard to Romney's speech, I am offended that he seemed to address it only to Christians.  I am Jewish.  I also am ambivilent about God.  I respect all persons who have faith.  I am willing to defend their right to believe in whatever they wish.  I also believe I should be entitled to believe in whatever I believe.  I do not believe that morality comes only from some divine inspiration.  I don't know where it comes from.  I don't want to be denigrated because I don't accept the symbols that others accept.
yeah sure rudy...so he beleives the 2005 NIE but the 2007 one he doesn't? Gotcha, wasn't the selective use of intel what got us into the hunt for wmd in iraq? Why doesn't the right ever learn?
"Giuliani said the United States needed to be "cautious" about listening to a new intelligence report regarding Iran’s nuclear weapon program, but said the report’s findings show that a tough position against Iran has worked."



So - if the issue is our hardline non-diplomacy, the report vindicates our hubris and threats 100%.

If, however, the issue is if we should back down from our posturing a first strike nuclear attack, (tell me how else we're going to subdue Iran) it's a suspect report.

Go ahead, right wingers - put the last nail in our coffin and put this tool in the WH - the only possible step down from prezdunt Busch.
Just like Bush, Rudy G. will spin it any way he can to fit his objectives.  Yes is no and back is white and truth and facts will never be allowed to get in the way.  They play with a deck stacked with fear cards. Too bad hardly anyone believes them anymore.  And, further, if there is "no religious test for office" why do the Republicans and their base continually place so much emphasis on their religiousity?  They talk about it daily.  War, religion, immigration, religion, tax cuts for the wealthy, religion, ultra conservative Supreme Court appointees, religion, religion, religion ad infinitem.  There are a lot more important issues and problems facing this country than what church these characters supposedly belong to and how often they pray.
Giuliani in Sarasota with the Billionairs. yeah.. he will help the common man. Get real ..hillaryclinton.com
I just saw and listened to Keith Olberman regarding Rommey-this guy [Olberman] should get a grip on himself--and then the profanity--get some one more professional and telling O"Riley to bring it on--please
It is sad that religious differences continue to play  a pivotal role in the hypothesized efficacy of a  candidate' leadership skills set.

Giuliani is just another fear/war mongering neocon.
I am sure Malcolm X would have a chance to become president now!!
Like always too damned late to cry over spilled Milk "NUKE""! Leave it to the Washington self serving paper hangers again, Captured complete Embassy staff and held the for 444 days, made America look like the three chimps thanks to Carter!!!!. Clinton set on his A@@ and let OBL build his little hoard of butchers and handed that to Bush,, Bush Had all the ducks in line and faulted to take out Iran nuke building complex!!

So in a nut shell, The Washington self serving paper hangers have dropped the ball. Thus the Littler modern day Hitler rattles his sabers and the challenge to America is again fallen upon deaf ears and blind eyes. Even the do nothing has been who reside in the Senate have kept their distance like always.

Those running for or want to be the next President have not the first concept of what the qualifications a person must have. Being a Washington self serving Paper Hangers is not a shoe in as to we being forced to vote for the low class of politics! Washington self sering paper hangers have a degusting 18% qapproval for their time in the Senate and House!! How low must they run down our goernmental system until failure can not be corrected??????

I stand in Ovation to ""ONE"" who would step foward to lead this nation ""who is fully qualified to be the next President!!

The rest of you set down and STFU!!!!!!
Why no mention of this poll:
Barack Obama 32%
Hillary Clinton 25%
John Edwards 25%
Joseph Biden 5%
Bill Richardson 3%
Chris Dodd 1%
Dennis Kucinich 1%
Undecided 8%

Strategic Vision poll Dec 5 in Iowa
please remember romney is pro iraq war and even wants to expand the actions. of course if and when he campaigns in the northeast that will change yet again.

flip-flop,flip-flop,flip-flop,flip-flop,flip-flop

yet another liberal from mass.--- the advertising will be priceless.shame on you romney for exploiting Pearl Harbor day.

December7th for romney-- unpatriotic or ignorant- you choose
The line has been drawn in the sand by the Giuliani camp. The only problem is he can't stake his candidacy and lack of foreign policy on just being tough and not artculating a comprehensive strategy on Iran... http://www.enewsreference.com
He's got my vote.
Guiliani liked the speech. As an 'irreligious guy' at least he's not hostile toward religion.

We might not all agree with Romney's faith (I don't), but at least he had the courage to speak openly about faith -- something people are increasingly fearful of in the public forum.

For an intelligent evangelical response to the Romney speech, check out:

www.redletterbelievers.blogspot.com
is there any hard evidence that rudy and hillary are not the same person? their 'bomb everyone', 'keep the rich rich and make the poor poorer' political philosophy has too be generated by the same brain matter does it not? and neither is worth the cost of the 22 shell it would take to rid us of their damnation.
I don't see how Rudy can possibly win. He is too much like the lying scum bag idiot in chief we have now. Look at his approval rating.
Rudy is the last person to comment on speeches of faith.


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