'Two fish and five loaves…'

Posted: Friday, December 07, 2007 6:06 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC’s Domenico Montanaro
Huckabee appears to suggest God, religion and the power of prayer are responsible for his surge in the polls in a YouTube video, which MSNBC’s Hardball with Chris Matthews aired this afternoon, from a speech at Liberty University.

“There’s only one explanation for it, and it’s not a human one,” Huckabee said. “It’s the same power that helped a little boy with two fish and five loaves feed a crowd of 5,000 people and that’s the only way that our campaign could be doing what it’s doing.

"And I’m not being facetious nor am I trying to be trite. There literally are thousands of people across who are praying that a little will become much and it has, and it defies all explanation. It has confounded the pundits, and I’m enjoying every minute of their trying to figure it out. And until they look at it from a just experience beyond human, they’ll never figure it out. And that’s probably just as well. That’s honestly why it’s happening.”

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I can't believe this! I hope he keeps playing the "God is in my corner" card. It makes Huckleberry look like a total idiot. I am a devout Christian, but I fear for the Republican Party if the Evangelical base votes for this guy singularly because of his former Baptist ministerial post. He would be a complete and utter disaster.

Ashley, Charlotte NC (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 9:49 PM)

Way to go Mr. Huckabee. it's about time someone acknowledges God is important in his life. May He bless you. I cannot think of anyone better to lead this country than you.

The far left is big on the separation of church and state, but what are their morals and values:
- they are in favor of the destruction of human life (abortions)
- they reject the freedom of speach for Chritians
- they don't want children to pray in schools
- they want to increase tax for all as if we don't pay enough
- they daily smear the US soldiers (watch MSNBC)
- they hate America and constantly find new ways to say America is a bad country
- they rather see Americans die than terrorists
- they want the government (me, you) to pay for our mistakes (where is personal responsibility?)
- they smear, smear, smear those that don't agree with them
- the new Congress doesn't know what it's doing. didn't they claim to make changes, lower gas prices, end the war, etc?

Alvar Day (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 9:51 PM)

I was at the speech. He was not saying that God will make him president.

Justin, Lynchburg, VA (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 9:52 PM)

Regardless of what religious theories Mike Huckabee has for his rise in the polls, the fact remains that he simply does NOT understand nor respect the Constitution that defines the way our government functions, and cannot authentically uphold and defend it. None of the candidates except for Ron Paul realize the implications of Article I or the Tenth Amendment, and that's frightening.

Joe from Ohio (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 9:53 PM)

I can't belive anyone would support this nutjob I mean come on he explains his surge in the polls with a fairy tail about fish and bread come on people wake up. They only tell you those stories so you will behave, well some people don't need imaginary beings in the sky to make them behave.

Jason (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 9:58 PM)

I guess if God is All-Powerful, He can be on everyone's side at the same time!

Jim Smith (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 9:59 PM)

Xavier- This is not a "separation of Church and State issue." He has LITERALLY SAID that he believes God is causing his supposed campaign surge! That is beyond ridiculous! As I stated in a previous post, i am a Christian and I accept Christ as my Savior, and I have no doubt that there is some divine influence in the happenings of this country. HOWEVER, this type of politics is sickening, manipulative and preys on the weak and superstitious. Shame on you for suggesting that those who disagree with him should be in fear of judgement. What a completely ignorant thing to say.

Ashley, Charlotte NC (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 10:01 PM)

Why is he thanking God? Clearly it was the famous Colbert bump that has helped his numbers.

kerry, Plano TX (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 10:01 PM)

Christianity is a farse. It's a myth. As is Islam, and Hinduism, and Santa, and the Easter Bunny. When will the human race realize that we live in paradise? This is the payoff. This is the Kingdom.

Blob, Richmond, VA (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 10:06 PM)

This dude is a clown. Just what we need is another holy roller in the white house. I am as republican as they come but I will never vote for this arrogant baptist

Robert, High Desert, CA (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 10:08 PM)

I like Huckabee, but then I'm a Christian, so of course. However, I do have a sense of fairness and balance which most Repub's and Dem's do not. So, if Huckabee should somehow get the nomination, I still would NOT vote for him unless he agrees to end the Iraq war. I'm not alone. No Republican nominee can win, because too many people feel the way I do. I won't vote for a pro-war candidate - PERIOD.

Roger, Palm City, Fl (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 10:08 PM)

What Huck said is true and it is not amazing that so many are taken back by it because they in spiritual darkness and will never figure it out in their own estimation. Consider this example: "You yourselves have seen everything the Lord your God has done to all these nations for your sake; it was the Lord your God who fought for you" (Joshua 23:3). As with George W. it may be that the Lord is raising up Huck for such a time as this. And if that is the case, fight all you like, God's will cannot be thwarted.

Jim in Oregon (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 10:12 PM)

Jim in Oregon (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 10:13 PM)

Where does the man say God has chosen him to be President? He is talking about rocketing to the front of the pack in a matter of a few months, leapfrogging very well-known and respected Republican figures. These are things that have already taken place. He is giving God credit for giving him the opportunity to be heard and to give voice to a large segment of the Republican electorate. The height of arrogance would be to take credit for all of that himself. His are humble comments, not arrogant ones.

Brian, Charlotte, NC (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 10:14 PM)

Jim in Oregon (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 10:15 PM)

Elaine- It is one thing to give credit to God for helping you in a tough life situation. I have done so myself many times. It is quite another to insinuate that he has been anointed the defacto political mouthpiece of God as condidate for the US Presidency. Think I'm going to far in saying this? Check out his Iowa ads where he boasts that he is the only candidate with "Christian Leadership". It is a dangerous game he is playing. I don't know what scares me more- his playing this card as a political ploy, or that he may actually BELIEVE it. If Huckabee wins the Republican nomination with tactics like this, I will stay home on election day.

Ashley, Charlotte NC (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 10:16 PM)

<Christianity is a farse. It's a myth. >

Yeah, you're right. It will never catch on.

John the B. (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 10:18 PM)

Even with his tax hikes Arkansas is a heck of a lot cheaper state to live in than most others.Mike is a good Christian man who has the values and morals we need in our next President.He did not nor does not claim to be endorsed by God.Only that God has helped him as He would anyone who asked for His help.

Rick,Dardanelle,Arkansas (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 10:21 PM)

Separation between Church and State. The neocons love to smirk at this concept since they appear to have an upper hand with Born Again Christianity at the helm. Just wait till around 2050, when the population demographics shift to a Latino majority, who, I am told, are predominantly Catholic. Oh, it will be a hard pill to swallow then, right Mike? Betcha' might want a little more "separation" then, huh. One of our national strengths was a complete separation, not a blending, of religion and politics. Be wary of anyone who runs on the "faith" bandwagon. You might be bumped off in the future.

MJ, Brooksville, FL (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 6:46 AM)

Since the vast majority of Americans cling to their irrational belief in a supreme being, expect these kinds of nutty statements from all of the candidates from both parties.

Jim, Lansing, MI (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 7:40 AM)

Is this the talibanisation of US? Secret recipe of a time bomb - Mix religion with politics ---Wait.

mm,ma (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:04 AM)

Huckabee's surge is too early to judge.

Huckabee's answer, implying that that only he understands why he is surging in the polls, is based on a belief in divine providence,
which he then admits that no one understands, including him!

That is a slick way to spin.
When the public catches on, they will change his name to "Huckleberry Spin."

The voters do know. It is that he seems to be a
fresh voice, an honest voice, a straight forward voice.Those characteristics is giving him the charisma to win votes, just like Clinton did and Kennedy before him. (Not like Lyndon Johnson or Richard Nixon, both winning on lack of substance and charisma in their opponents)

What Huck has to prove is his maturity beyond the poor decisions he made in previous public office.

Otherwise, in the Oval Office, he may say:

"No one understands why things are happening the way they are
but they remind me of the story in the Bible when....and I am thoroughly enjoying every minute of it."

Voters want substance. He has given them a "good ol' boy" image so far.

If he has been in Harry Truman's day, I don't think he would have been emotionally
capable of sending the A-bomb to Hiroshima and Nagasaki after Japan bombed
us in Pearl Harbor.

We may need to hear what his alternative would have been.
We all can predict that every other candidate running
would say, " to negotiate."

If Huck can give a better answer than that spin, he will win.

Rev Marvin E. Purser, Jr. (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:40 AM)

To all of you above runnig Huckabee down, how do you account for his rise, he had no money, only his faith, need to get a life. You hardcore liberals that gripe about the way we interrogate terrosists that behead our soldiers, and support a woman that stole the Whitehouse furniture, while her perverted husband pardoned hundreds of felons for money, and also terrosists against the advice of policeman organization. By the way the pardon board in Arkansas was appointed by Clinton, not Huckabee, and the governor cannot pardon or parolee so get off the liberal lies. By the way this race is over, Huckabee is your new president, like it or not.

David Anders Pharr, tx. (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:41 AM)

Ashley:

My comment about fear is based on the vehemence and vitriol that most of the posters in response to this blog and others that I have read have come out with. My comment was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but the fact remains that the rather *irrational* responses some have come up with are based more on emotion (not sure if it is more fear or hatred) than fact. And for the record, I am completely in agreement with you that it is not a Separation of Church and State issue...however, that hasn't stopped those that seem most fearful of a Huckabee candidacy from raising that facetious argument to try to scare those individuals that don't know what the Constitution truly says about that matter. I'm not criticizing those that disagree with the Governor, just those that are twisting facts to confuse the less-informed among the electorate.

Xavier, NC (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:14 AM)

I find Mr. Huckabee's comments on the reason for this popularity surge very troubling! I fear the thought of living in a country with that type of leader. The religious comments are even more troubling than his dubious ethical history and his liberal/protax/proimmigration stances. I hope the electorate will become better informed so we can be spared from this.

Lynn Burgamy Milledgeville, Georgia (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:39 AM)

'Oh Sweet mystery of life at last, I've found you"
Mentioning god over and over in your run for political office my seem to be innocuous but it is a subtle message, 'I am the chosen one, the annointed one'. Since Huck is a baptist minister, we know his beliefs, if he wore bowling shoes I'd assume he was a bowler, I don't need to know that he thinks god is behind his surge, what I want to know is does god support the party planks, free markets, taking money from social programs to build golf courses for aging generals, Will raping the earth get us to heaven faster?
I believe a person who shows virtue is better than a person who preaches it to get your vote.
Huck was a part of the process that released a killer from jail, he could have said it was a mistake in judgment and asked for forgiveness, he went and blamed it on clinton, I heard the victim was a Clinton relative, hmmmmmmm.
If Huck and Romney use god to further their candidacy, then I can question why they think that is so. I am not questioning their convictions, I am questioning their reasons for doing it.
The repub candidates need the evangelical vote, simple fact, mentioning god gets their attention, simpler fact. Any christian that sees this must ask one simple question 'is he doing this for my vote', and then act accordingly.
Your enemy is not secular humanism, your enemy is the person who trys to use your beliefs to sway you to vote for them.
I pray everyday for guidance and strength, I don't ask for a christian leader to guide me or my country, if you do, then that is your choice, don't make it mine. That is not a democracy, that is you being supercilious.

John Alexander,Edinboro,PA (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:49 AM)

First Read: Isn't this BIG news?? Where's the coverage?

"Co-chair for Hillary Clinton’s Iowa campaign, Garry Thomas, announced he will be leaving Clinton’s camp in favor of a new candidate— Barack Obama.

The Burlington county city council member reportedly made his decision after Clinton began to take an increasingly negative approach with her ads and rhetoric." http://www.kcrg.com/explorepolitics/?feed=bim&id=12254626

Mary (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:02 AM)

fred pearce, cairo, ga --You said:
"What separation of church and state? Can you point that phrase out to me in the U.S. Constitution?"

Of course not, it doesn't appear in the Constitution. It was coined by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Danbury Baptists. And I quote:

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
Thomas Jefferson

Wiser words on this subject have never been written.

fred pearce, cairo, ga --You state further:
"Maybe it just evolved over time like Darwinian natural selection, huh?"

You are covering a lot of ground here. But since the jury is still out on evolution (Ha!) lets just quote Jefferson again.

"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."
Thomas Jefferson
(Letter to H. Spafford, 1814).

fred pearce, cairo, ga --You Conclude:
Liberals,take care driving at night. Wouldn't want you to wreck because penumbras blinded you.

penumbras at night? Must be a miracle thingy, huh?
Oh! you mean constitutional penumbras. Well I suppose it is a matter of opinion and interpretation I guess.
As for me, I will stand with Thomas Jefferson and James Madison on this issue. Currently turning over in their graves.

Gary Schear, Bozeman, Montana (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:07 AM)

Huckabee is not evil at all. I am a native Arkansan and I have seen him in action or "inaction"
He and his wife are both weird. He is also not very smart. HIs wife is really pretty rough around the edges. She has even jumped out of planes from time to time. Not a genteel lady at all.

All of you on here, thanks for seeing the truth about him, well most of you. He is not presidential material please believe me.
It's not just the bread and fish thing or whatever he said, but that is sorta of an example of his line of thinking.
I am a Democrat and I never voted for him for Governor ever and I would not vote for him no matter what but those of you who would, pick somebody else out of the lack luster Republican field to vote for.
John McCain may be your best bet or Romney would if it were not for the Mormonism being a cult and I do think that is true.
I am a Hilary supporter but I would like to see a Republican nominated that would be a good president in case they should win again. God forbid that!!!

Lynne, LR,Arkansas (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:20 AM)

non-religious people won't understand his comments. He didn't say God supports his candidacy.. what he said is that God listens to people's prayers. People (myself included) are praying every day for Huckabee.

And, wow, do people need to actually do some reading. The seperation of church and state is nowhere in the constitution. It was from a letter by TJ. I laugh at people who say the founding father's would never allow this, or allow that... Here's a nice test for you. Find the federal budget from the first 30 years of our countries history... The founding fathers actually budgeted money to missionaries to convert indians to Christianity. Read speeches that they wrote. Washington, Jeffersion, Franklin all spoke very openly about their faith and their view that God was needed for our country to survive.

What the founding fathers didn't want is for persecution of people for their faith. (ie Catholics vs Protestants)... ie religious freedom, which we have. I have a mosque about 2 miles from my house and people can freely worship there.

Peter Sedesse, Cleveland, Ohio (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:30 AM)

Let us put the God Squad to the test.
Oral Roberts said God would call him home if he didn't raise 8 million dollars. Some follower gave him a million to put him over the top rather than let the game play out.
Pat Robertson asked God to send an earthquake to destroy Orlando for having a Gay Rights parade. The next natural disaster was hurricane Isadore which almost wiped out Virginia Beach, Robertson's headquarters.
Next he asked God to send a hit man to assassinate Chavez the last I heard Chavez was still making mischief. all the while that other leader of the Christian right was visiting with his boyfriend. I never trusted anyone who claimed to have God's ear in all matters spiritual secular. Since I am living nearby though i may go down after the inaugural ball and carry away one of the baskets of leftovers.

Rufus Gibbons, DC (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:30 AM)

How come the preachers of tolerance are the most intolerant? If he would have said having gay sex, with an unknown man, was the reason for his success nothing would be said by the left and all hell would break loose if the right brought it up. The guy believes there is something greater than he is. Why is this an unforgivable statement?

lets think (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:32 AM)

Wow, Someone to vote for. VOTE HUCKABEE Yeee Haaa..

Jimmy Mitchell, Duncan, Oklahoma (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:04 PM)

I can't believe the religious crazies on this board actually thought that this was seen as a positive. It's crazy, Edwards is right about one thing though, we live in 2 Americas:

The rational one

and the one that endorses such venues as the national creationism museum, hand in hand with depictions of, get this, dinosaurs and human beings, not ancestors of humans, on the planet during the same time.

I would believe in the Redeemer a lot more if his followers acted even half as redeemed as they claim to be.

Travis, the rational world, USA (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:08 PM)

Alvar, that was the most inane crap I've heard babbled since the days of Jerry. Thank god you and I will never be voting the same way; you're oficially a moron who really doesn't deserve a fighting shot at life. Go die in some corner, k?

God, everywhere, my followers are pathetic (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:11 PM)

I think that Mike Huckabee is a likable guy and actually, I am a person of faith. But unlike the good governor, I dont' believe God works in the way he indicates. When things do go your way, it is dangerous, no, it's presumptuous to invoke the name of God, as the reason.

If you look at the Republican field, it seemed quite obvious that evangelical Christians would find a home in the Huckabee candidacy. They distrust McCain because of his aspertions during the 2000 campaign, they distrust Romney because of his Mormonism, they distrust Guiliani because of his lack of morality and Thompson just seems to lack moxie. Huckabee was a natural default candidate for people of Christian right wing (Ron Paul is just too out there for the vast majority of evangelicals, who actually do support GWB's position on the war). It just took time for people to become engaged in order to align themselves with the candidate who was most closely associated with their religious philosophy.

That's good for Mike Huckabee but whether or not this coalescence is enough to deliver him the Republican nomination, remains to be seen.

Still when one compares this natural course of events (in retrospect) to the work of God, I feel that it is a bit demeaning of God's work. It would be presumptuous for us to understand God's will in these circumstances. I much preferred Huckabee's comment at the You-Tube debate, when he said that "Jesus was too smart to ever run for public office" when answering a WWJD?-type question in relation to the death penalty. That answer emphasized his faith yet avoided a self-proclamation of being 'the chosen' candidate.
Obama '08

Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:21 PM)

First Bush and now Huckabee, I guess we have to face the real possibility that God is insane. Someone should write a book "What if God was Insane?" and imagine and project what the world and religions run by an insane God would look like. I suspect it would be very similiar to what we have.

nuanced (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:28 PM)

Rev Marvin E Purser Jr (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:53 PM)

Ashley, J. Alexander, and Mitchel Feldman, your comments are right on the money for me. Your concerns regarding Huckabee resonate with me too, and in the past your reasoning tended to be thoughtful, not too emotional...
I am so grateful that I live in country where I can be conservative, liberal, moderate, religious, an atheist, an agnostic, a Muslim, Christian , Mormon or a Jew and it is my inalienable right to do so. I agree that the religious right needs Huckabee, but I think the general populace is much more moderate and am hoping that in the general election that the right person gets elected..this election is so important, and the decision so big, I just hope that we get it right this time..judging by these blogs, my boyfriend is correct, he is predicting that this election will be nastier, and more divisive than the last two...unbelievable, but I think he is correct.
Then it is indeed a sad sorry state of afairs..

Pam the OC, CA (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 4:26 PM)

Huckabee is an answer to many people's prayers and he recognizes this in his speech. He gives credit to where credit is due. We need more people like him in office. The tide is turning in America and it's time we get back to our roots. God is turning the faith of a few into a huge political movement by His people. "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." It's time for God to use a true man of God to turn the tide in this country and begin the healing of the USA. One man can make a difference!

Chris Taylor, Chesapeake, VA (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 6:04 PM)

Lynne from Arkansas, are you voting for Hillary because she called you and all arkansans Hicks when she first came to Arkansas, and you like to be undercut by the queen. by the way if you have her over for dinner dont put out your good silver, remember she stole the whitehouse furniture, while cigar bill was pardoning hundreds of criminals and terrosists. Yes Lynee youre right , we dont need a good person like Mike. Well like it or not Mike has won this election.

david anders pharr,tx. (Sent Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:59 PM)

I am grateful that he is giving God the credit. Someone mentioned the belief that America has a separation of church and state they have been sold a line of goods and missed some real basic stuff in his middle school social studies. Please go back and count the number of references to God in the Declaration of Independence (4).

Jeff, Monroe, NC (Sent Monday, December 10, 2007 7:59 AM)

Jeff, Monroe, NC--Go count the references to God in Mein Kamph and report back to us. Meaningless. Every people, every tribe, every empire and every republic has claimed to have God on their side and their side only. The only document that matters here in the United States is the Constitution which constructs the framework for diverse people to live and let live in peace. God does NOT appear in the Constitution. DOES NOT! The notable exception is found in the Signatory section, where the date is written thusly: "Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven". The common method of writing the date in official documents of the day. This SECULAR nation was founded for people of all religions and people of no religion. Your attempts to turn it into a Theocracy will NOT be accepted a good many millons of Americans. What do you intend to do with us.

Gary Schear, Bozeman, Montana (Sent Monday, December 10, 2007 10:31 AM)

Okay people, he's giving honor where it's due! People are supporting him, he's getting more media coverage, and his numbers are improving - so Huckabee gives is giving credit to God for his success so far in the race.

Have any of you given credit to God for good things happening in your life?!

Will, Schenectady, NY (Sent Monday, December 10, 2007 3:53 PM)

Christians who have a real relationship with Jesus Christ, which Huckabee has, will completely understand this. He is not saying that God is endorsing him. He is stating that he believes in the power of prayer, and his christian supporters believe he has the annointing. That is not too be confused with people thinking he is a saint, or a prophet! If you have the Holy Spirit within you, you just understand this. Their is a HUGE difference between religion or tradition and a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. In a personal relationship, you actually feel the Holy Spirit directing your steps. I know you will trash my comment and say that I am a "nutjob" and that is ok. The Bible says that until you accept and believe in your heart that Jesus is your Lord and Saviour, your "eyes will be blind and your ears will not hear". God bless all of you and God bless Mike Huckabee.

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AMEN!!!!

Will, Schenectady, NY (Sent Monday, December 10, 2007 3:54 PM)

What an arrogant, deluded man. I guess God told him to release a murderer/rapist as well. Nice one Jesus!

Anton St. John (Sent Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:18 PM)

Objections to Huckabee's statements like this have less to do with the separation of church and state principle and more to do with Article VI of the constitution. Article VI states that "No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." So, when a candidate makes claims to be the "Christian Leader" (thankfully his most recent ads have dropped this claim) and then claims that God is guiding people to vote for him, it is foreboding. In every essence he is self imposing a religious test on himself and possibly future candidates by running a blatant identity campaign that says, vote for me I’m Christian just like you. By making this the focus of his campaign he can then skirt the real issues in some ways. This also, conveniently for him right now but not in the long run view, works to exclude all candidates who are not "one of us" but might hold the same political conviction as "us" eliminating important allies on issues like abortion, same sex marriage and the like.
By no mean should we eliminate from political discussion the values and moral convictions that people of faith bring to office but Huckabee has no one to blame but himself when people decide that they are not going to vote for him because they don't like his religion. He can't have it both ways.

Layne Pitcher (Sent Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:22 PM)

I am not sure what is more frightening, Huckabee for saying this, or those that will follow him. I don't think you're a bunch of nut jobs, you're just seriously mistaken. Oh yeah, and terribly self righteous.

CW Tigard, OR (Sent Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:26 PM)

Layne and Mitchell- I think you both hit the nail on the head. I am also a Christian. I am very religious and pray several times a day. I frequently credit God for the blessings in my life. However, I found Huckabee's comment highly inappropriate. He should thank God for whatever he wants- privately. I don't mind him acknowledging God or his belief in Him- that is fine with me. But comparing his surge to the story of the loaves & fishes is just way over the top. His surge is because of the evangelicals (a huge population in Iowa) wanting one of their own. Rudy's early supporting comments of him probably hasn't hurt either. Like all the others who have surged, unless he can show that he has some substance that matters to the PEOPLE, than his surge will disapate just like the others (Thompson, McCain, etc.).

By the way, Alvar, Huckabee is hardly the first person to stand by his belief in God. Nor will he be the last.

Kira, Utah (Sent Tuesday, December 11, 2007 6:18 PM)

High stakes poker game.

If Obama wins nomination, it signals the end of affirmative action since that would be unnecessary in the future.

If Obama wins nomination, it signals the end of Congressional hierarchy since he obviously didn't need it.

If Obama wins nomination, it signals that it is women who do need the affirmative action, not men.

If Obama wins, it signals the future where only law school and brief government experience is necessary to win the Presidency, thereby opening it to youth.

If Obama wins, it signals the fact that only celebrity endorsement may be a requirement to win.

Pat (Sent Monday, December 17, 2007 12:46 PM)

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