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That’s a wrap!

Posted: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:39 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ’s Mike Memoli
MANCHESTER, N.H. -- The Double-O road show came to an end in New Hampshire tonight, capping a weekend of events featuring the queen of daytime talk and a candidate, who is surging in the polls.

Though the campaign had announced earlier this week that the event was at capacity, the Verizon Wireless Arena was not full. The lower bowl was filled, but at least half of the upper deck was empty. There was even room on the floor in front of the stage. Obama did say there was a “pretty good crowd,” and “not bad on a school night.” It was also 28 degrees, and snow began falling just as the event geared up.

The campaign said the attendance was 8,500, which would make it the smallest crowd of the four events this weekend. The campaign, however, said the number would make it one of the largest, if not the largest campaign event of the primary season.

Obama’s speech was largely the same, except for one acknowledgement early in the speech. Obama welcomed members of the AFL-CIO, who he said were his special guests. “They’re here at my request, as my special guest because the Verizon Wireless Arena does not hire stagehands who are union workers,” Obama told the crowd. “This is a great facility, and we should have union workers in here to make sure that the stagehands are getting a fair shake.”

The union was reportedly angered when Obama chose the venue because of its anti-union stance, and a picket was averted only when the Obama campaign brokered a settlement. “We should have union workers in here,” Obama said.

Introducing Obama, Oprah Winfrey poked fun at “pundits” who have speculated whether her marketing power would extend from books to politics. “They act like I don’t know that you all got some sense,” Winfrey said. “I know you all know the difference between book clubs and favorite things and free refrigerators. I know you all were hoping I brought that refrigerator. I wanted to, I just couldn’t swing it.”

Gov. John Lynch, whose wife, Susan, endorsed Hillary Clinton last month, spoke to the crowd shortly before the main program began. He welcomed Oprah Winfrey to New Hampshire, calling her a “remarkable person, who has done so much to help and inspire people.”

He also said he wanted the crowd to know “how much I admire” Obama. Lynch, despite his wife’s endorsement, has said he is remaining neutral in the contest and instead is focused on being a good host. Obama later thanked the “outstanding governor,” as well as the two New Hampshire members of Congress -- Paul Hodes, a national co-chair, and Carol Shea-Porter, who has remained neutral.

Obama’s campaign called the timing of the event ideal, as a new MSNBC-Mason Dixon poll shows the Illinois senator now running neck-and-neck with Clinton with just one month to go until the first-in-the-nation primary. Clinton had maintained a double-digit lead here for much of the year, and has most of the state’s Democratic establishment in her corner.

“It’s an energy boost to our supporters, who feel some excitement and momentum,” said Reid Cherlin, Obama's New Hampshire press secretary.

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Um, Mr. Memoli, do your research:

New York, NY 24,000
Atlanta, GA 20,000
Austin, TX 20,000
Iowa City, 15,000
Boston, 9,500

Obama has gotten plenty of huge crowds. Your attempts to minimize Obama's undeniable numbers draw is pathetic.
The news media is beginning to remind me of the Democrats in Congress - in their effort to appear "above it all" they roll over for the Republicans.  Also, Rudy's starting to remind me of Thompson.  Rudy needs to remember what the primaries are:  They are a verbal street fight.  He's gotta start really sparring with his opponents.  The Hillary strategy of being the inevitable candidate isn't working for her and probably won't work for him.  He needs to get down to the gutter and start launching some verbal attacks on his opponents.  There are so many opportunities for Rudy to win over people with his Law and Order record I'm surprised he's not going more on the offensive with that.
Campaigns always estimate on the high side so 8,500 is a big dissapointment, considering all the hype.  We constantly read about the "Huge" Obama crowds - what happened?  He's drawn bigger crowds on his own!
Congratulations, you manage to belittle what the Boston Globe calls the biggest gathering of voters in recent memory in NH.

For a Hillary plant you do a great job Domenico.
Go Obama!

Great speeches...history in the making!!!!
Seeing Oprah reading her notes, sometimes has to re-read her notes again, I feel unconfortable. I don't believe she really enjoy it. She looks comfortable when she sit there. I did not hear anything new, most of it just repeated what they said before. The most uncomfortable thing to me is I was shocked when Oprah said "experince doesn't count in politics" and something else about experince.... I can sense that it is Hillary they mean. I feel that Oprah should not attack her, although no name mention, she should focus more on Obama and why we need to elect him.
Well, I am a black woman, at this point, I don't think I want to vote for Obama. Yes, I am excited, but still don't feel he is the one.
No thanks mama - I'm for Obama !

Obama 2008.
I have never seen more moving, inspiring speeches as I did tonight at the Manchester, NH event!!  Barack Obama is truly sincere in his quest to help the American people!!  You got my vote in the primary, Senator Obama!!
It will be interesting to see the kind of bump Obama gets as result of the o' Factor. There will be a lot of surprises down the stretch. http://www.enewsreference.wordpress.com
yiannis, did you see the pictures of the crowd? Half the people were kids, hardly voters.

I'm thrilled the Obama supporters have revealed themselves as pop culture savants.
It's what I had thought,now I know.
He's not running for president, he's running for most popular!

Go Edwars (who this forum just ignores
He spoke out against the Patriot Act then voted in favor of reauthorizing it, he cannot commit to withdrawing the troops out of Iraq by 2013, possibly later.. He hasn't ruled out using strikes against Iran, not to mention the same vote he criticizes Hillary for, he missed himself and sponsored the exact same legislation designating the IRG a terrorist organization in back in April.. He implied that he would invade Pakistan, without the consent of their government.. He made votes making it more difficult for average citizens to sue big corporations.. He has no consistency on the issues of social security and taxes, in the very beginning he was for raising the cap, then having all options on the table, then appointing a bipartisan commission, now he's back to raising the cap.. He receives contributions from lobbyists, corporations and interest groups

WHY WOULD ANYONE VOTE FOR HIM
Yeah Oprah, we have sense, sense enough to know that a celebrity likes attention. Sense enough to know you don't have all the answers just because you are successful.
I like the obama supporters convictions but I think they are not looking at the big picture, many white people will quietly vote against the candidate because of his race, we are in the 21 century but we are still fighting the civil war around the country.
It is sad that this is true, but it is true, we should not pretend that all dems are inclusive and we should not forget the repubs and their race based fear mongering.
Great pie in the sky hoopla, Obama.

Please tell me HOW Obama is going to change.
What policy?
Without going negative as he so often does, tell me how Obama is going to change this country?

Wow, the Clinton and Edwards supporters are sourgrapes today!  Got milk?
There are so many opportunities for Rudy to win over people with his Law and Order record I'm surprised he's not going more on the offensive with that.
Tom, Monmouth County, NJ (Sent Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:02 PM)

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Probably because his "law and oreder" track record isn't as polished and clean as his supporters espouse. He seems more like a lying, jack boot wearing leader of a thugocrisy.
With all due respect to First Read, why no mention of Biden's appearance on "This week" He was the first guest on, and talked about Iran and the destruction of the torture tapes. Even the Cedar Rapids Gazette printed the following blurb from the AP:

NATION/WORLD


Biden wants counsel to review CIA over tapes
 
WASHINGTON — Sen. Joe Biden said Sunday the attorney general should appoint a special counsel to investigate the CIA’s destruction of videotaped interrogations of two suspected terrorists.
 Biden, a Democratic presidential candidate and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, cited Michael Mukasey’s refusal during confirmation hearings in October to describe waterboarding as torture.
 Mukasey’s Justice Department and the CIA’s internal watchdog announced Saturday they would conduct a joint inquiry into the matter. That review will determine whether a full investigation is warranted.  

The article failed to include Biden's take away line, that the Bush administration reminds him of the "Nixon administration without the competence."

Shouldn't First Read make an attempt to provide coverage for actual news. Go ahead and cover the statistically suspect polls, or event crowd size (with estimates coming the campaigns), but how about some coverage on the actual issues as well. Just a thought.
Maybe it's just me, and these fluff stories are more important than real news.
There are only two ways to lead, by inspiration and by example, and they are not mutually exclusive. Obama as potus would provide some credibility in both areas, from a global as well as U.S. perspective.



Consider a continuum with do-as-I-say-do-not-what-I-do at one end and lead at the other end. What we have here  is a seminal moment where America's claim of global democratic leadership (as opposed to imperial posturing -- as man has done since the inception of the species Homo sapiens here on earth) can be pushed toward the lead end of the continuum.  Why do we need these visions so bold that they run the real risk of ridicule as idealistic naivete? For this reason: Precisely because we are all such imperfect beings, we must strive for perfection (at least in the standards we promulgate as visions).  The point is, if we were perfect, then, by definition, whatever action we took  would be the right thing to do. So the anchor of a bold vision is a good thing to precede action. Notwithstanding that from the perspective of humanity that it is sad that it's so, given the world extant,   in the circumstance of campaign '08 in the U.S., the onus is largely on the dominant group to move beyond what is, and even what can be, and envision what ought to be and THEN grasp this seminal moment that has arisen here.  Why? Purely and simply numbers and the one-person-one-vote principle, even if it works to perfection. Consider the circumstances of the South Carolina Democratic primary. Why that one? Because it is said that in that particular primary, blacks comprise circa 50% of the vote. Current estimates say that the black vote is evenly split between Clinton and Obama and that Clinton enjoys a significant lead over Obama for the white vote.  Now, how many places exist where such is the significance of the black vote?  In 2004 Sharpton received, it is said, 10% of the black vote. (Oh, by the way, this isn't the first time Oprah would have had an opportunity to so publicly support a candidate of African descent}. Notwithstanding all else, 1+1 = 2. It's purely and simply the numbers.
John Alexander,Edinboro,PA,
I am white.  I would vote for Obama.  I believe we are seeing the next great president in history.  Talk like just because he is black, white will not vote for him is so negative and missleading. I care more about his character and honesty. People I talk with, the color of his skin does not come up, it is what he speaks about.
Would someone please tell me why you think that Obama is the best person to get us out of Iraq?  

How responsible is it of you people to vote for someone who talks the talk but has never walked the walk?  

Hillary has relationships with generals.  She has relationships with senators and representatives.  She knows the leaders of all the countries involved.  

All the inspiration in the world will not solve our problems.  Another time, perhaps when Bill left office, I would have said - "okay, lets try Obama".  We were not at war.  We didn't have huge budget deficits.  I might have made sense then.  

But now?  Huh?  How dumb can you people be?  
A black as president ,NO WAY in Hell.No black in washington ever. We are still battling racism.Be sides he knows nothing.We all ready have a lying President.Obama has said lies in the book he wrote THE Audosity of hope.what he wrote in his book of what happened to him in New York  was all lies.He even talked of if he were President he would invade Pakistan.We need no more wars.
black as president ,NO WAY in Hell.No black in washington ever. We are still battling racism.Be sides he knows nothing.We all ready have a lying President.Obama has said lies in the book he wrote THE Audosity of hope.what he wrote in his book of what happened to him in New York  was all lies.He even talked of if he were President he would invade Pakistan.We need no more wars.

Dolores Fleming
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Another Hillary fans that is as mad as hell. Please keep your biggot at home and get use to it.
hillary isn't the only one with experience. let's not do what the media has been attempting to do. let's not fall into that trap. everyone has experience to some degree. at least all candidates but one experience can be verified. that bothers me.

good judgement matters as well. bush, cheney, rumsfeld, libby, powell, rice and more have 3 times the experience. look at their judgement. amazing fact isn't it?

did anyone know this little known fact? if you take into consideration of who has been in public service the longest not just federal politics, obama has been in public service longer than hillary. you can verify this. just a fact.

one other thing. edwards is a viable candidate. how come no one in here talks about him?  
This is a FACT  ""WARP""

The President shall lead this nation. Those who want to be the next President are not qualified to run a car wash! Yes as stated in this article ""A side show"". Its more like clowns wanting to be in Ring # 1 center stage of a traveling circus! There is nothing being said and no major Issues being addressed, conjecture and finger pointing are the daily obstruction as to why congress is a failure, failure to close self serving wars, millions of illegals roaming the streets of America, failed Federal laws to enforce security of our national borders, poverty, homeless, industrial exodus, self serving agenda supported by meaningless national acceptance.

Yes, Your right! We again are to separate those who want to be President, but how must one support a liar, a Washington self serving paper hanger, open ended promises which intend to bring more needless spending to a now over spent bankrupt system.

Who shall I vote for???
Where is Ron Paul?
WELL, FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR 44 YEARS, GET THAT UNION OUT OF MY FACE YOU WANT TO TALK CLOWN AFL CIO TAKE A NUMBER OR LEAVE THIS TO THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE.
WELL, FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR 44 YEARS, GET THAT UNION OUT OF MY FACE YOU WANT TO TALK CLOWN AFL CIO TAKE A NUMBER OR LEAVE THIS TO THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE.
WELL, FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR 44 YEARS, GET THAT UNION OUT OF MY FACE YOU WANT TO TALK CLOWN AFL CIO TAKE A NUMBER OR LEAVE THIS TO THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE.
WELL, FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR 44 YEARS, GET THAT UNION OUT OF MY FACE YOU WANT TO TALK CLOWN AFL CIO TAKE A NUMBER OR LEAVE THIS TO THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE.


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