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Congress: What would Bob Bullock say?

Posted: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:06 AM by Mark Murray
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“The White House budget director warned on Saturday that President Bush was prepared to veto a $500 billion spending package being assembled in Congress if Democrats pushed for too much additional money for domestic programs,” the New York Times wrote on Sunday. “Jim Nussle, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, accused Democrats of trying to tie money for combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan to what the president considers excessive spending for federal agencies and home-state projects.”

More: “According to lawmakers and senior officials who described the emerging legislation, Democrats would agree to give the president about $70 billion he has sought in interim financing for combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan without calling for a troop withdrawal — a major concession. The president would then be expected to accept about $11 billion in domestic spending that he has opposed, stalling the bills that were due Oct. 1.”

The AP added, “The difference between Bush and Democrats amounts to only about 2 percentage points and is dwarfed by Bush's $196 billion request for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. But Bush has adopted a hard line, and his veto pen gives him great leverage, especially as Congress races to complete its work and adjourn for the year.”

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This is like a parent telling a child " I am buying a Mercedes but ice skates for you at Christmas are much too expensive".
Yet another example of how this white house, care to give other countries more aid than what they could give to AMERICANS that truely need it. Social progarms bad, nation building good... what a bunch of garbage!
Don't you just LOVE how Bush accuses the Democrats in Congress, time and time again, of fiscal irresponsibility when his Administration has been the worst spending offender in US history.  All he is trying to do is prevent the Dems from getting anything done, just so he can then turn around on Fox News and accuse them of not doing anything.  It amazes me that millions in this country are dubious enough to believe him.  It's all spin and misdirection and it pisses me off that it works.
We need the money for the military in Irag and Afghanistan and we need to cut the budget on everything else, until we get it in balance and begin reducing the federal debt.  Tax payers can no longer afford to finance tax consumers.  The party is over.
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A PRESIDENT THAT DOESN'T KNOW ENOUGH TO RUN A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT. BUT HERE HE IS RUNNING AMERICA INTO THE GROUND. WE HAVE 35 MILLION PEOPLE GOING HUNGRY EVERYDAY. DOES HE CARE? HELL NO. HE SHOULD BE RUN OUT OF AMERICA.
I hope he shuts the government down until they reduce spending.  Not reduce the rate of growth, but reduce actual spending. There is a reason that 8 out of 10 Americans disapproves of Congress and  #1 is they are bankrupting this country.  
J Smith, Anderson, IN 'we have 35 million people going hungry everyday"...have them get a job and buy a meal!
Actually the debt and bankruptcy is that of a republican congress, under a bush administration, and created out of misdirected priorities. To blame our current congress is irresponsible. To simply say "have them get a job" is to follow the logic that Iragis should simply get a government.
And how many of those 35 million are children. Republicans, the "pro-life party" - until you are born. Then you need to "get a job" !
This is another case showing the recklessness and non care for his own country. If they don't get him and his cronies out of office, this country is going to bankrupt. Most disgraceful president in american history.
B Rondot, Albany, NY, you sound like the typical compassionate conservative, ala Bush. The present administration has created the largest national debt increase in history with its tax cuts and the transfer of wealth from the middle class to richest class in America. Bush's hypocracy is unmatched when he accuses the Democratic party of excessive spending. The Republican party and Bush have proven to be the biggest spenders in American history.
No political progress in Iraq, no extension of stay for American military resources.  It is that simple.  Democrats in Congress can block that funding and force the redeployment of our troops.  Not ideal, but with the president being as unyielding as he is, it is the only viable alternative.

Yes, domestic infrastructure, health care and social programs are in bad shape.  Yes, homeland security is in bad shape.  Yes, Afganistan needs more attention.  Yes, they all need adequate funding. But this administration is spent, and Democrats in Congress should not allow themselves to be bullied by it on this deadly misadventure in Iraq.

Stop the madness, Impeach Bush.
You can blame NBC and all of the other big news organizations for letting Bush get away with this crap.Tim Russert,Chris Matthews and the rest of the dolts in the media refuse to spend any time giving the country a civics lesson as to why things have stalled in Congress.They would rather report that Americans are not happy with Congress rather than look at the reasons why things are not getting done.
Yeah,it's a little complicated to explain that you need 2/3 to override the president and that its THE REPUBLICANS tying things up.
THe Democrats need to understand Bush does what he says he wll do, so come off the pork and the timetable. Lets get a budget in place and move forward.
I agree, Impeach Bush. He is a war mongler. I hate to say that being that he was my commander in chief at one time. But we are suppose to be fighting a war on terrorism, instead we went after Iraq, a country that, at the time did not have weapons of mass destruction like Bush so claimed and now he is trying to push his ways on Iran. Claiming that they have some huge nuclear program going, when the intelligence reports state that their nuclear programs have come to a halt. I think Bush is Bi Polar or something. He gets these thoughts in his head that someone is doing something wrong and no matter what you tell him, he still wants to go to War. He could care less about his American People. He would rather play war games all day and send this country into a whole. He needs to grow up and realize these aren't games he's playing. There are real people out there dying for his EGO. Yes I said it. His EGO that is what all this is about anymore.
Here we go again with our C- grade point average President. American people (0) zero... outside of US give them any amount and make it CASH...What a mess we are in, becoming a thrid world country, and no one cares.    
to all these people that sent these comments: I know that you have your own opinions but if you really care, i mean really care you sould get you asses off that chair and start doing something about it, insead of just telling poeple to get a job stop and think that maybe they tried but couldn't get anywhere. Help them out. I bet that not many of you have actually donated anything to the poeple who actually need it. so untill you do I think that you are not intitled to an opinion on this topic
Does Bush really need to be that heartless? The United States has spent too much money on a war we really shouldn't even be fighting!!!!
I must have missed something... Could someone please tell me when George W. Bush was anoited King of the United States? This business of telling Congress of what the President wants and nothing else will do is getting old!
I honor your sacrifice (though myself or any one close to me sacrifice's nothing) What more do you want?
Josie Green Bay Wisconsin- I agree.  I am a broke student that has nothing to offer but my very small paycheck and I donate all my extra money to specific organizations to help people who can't get by.  More people should put money into these organizations if they feel like 'so many need help, why don't we care about them'.  We should all get off our a*ses and change things, cuz obviously our administration cannot.....
I am old enough to remember rationing, saving tin cans, newspapers & grease during WW II.  This president has not asked anyone to help get us out of this morass we are in.  When was the last time he went without a meal or a job or a roof over his head?  He is the poorest excuse for an American I have known in my 72 years.  Stop the war, stop the killing and help all citizens of the U.S; not just the elite.  If it weren't for people like me and every other American who worked & still work to survive in today's world the rich wouldn't be sitting back counting their millions of dollars in profits (especially the oil companies).  George W. Bush should be impeached for violating the Constitution of the United States.  
For a comparison that shows how obscene the amounts of money are that have been squandered on the Iraq fiasco: The Apollo program that put humans on the Moon cost a total of $135 billion in 2006 dollars. That's 60 billion less than what Bush has requested for this year alone. The total cost of Iraq so far is about $600 billion.

We could have had FIVE national programs as ambitious as the moon program of the '60s for the price of one bloody debacle that's bought America nothing but intensified animosity of muslim nations, broken the US military, and given us a new generation of physically and psychologically damaged war veterans.

Of course we don't need five more moon programs, but all the money thrown down the rathole  in Iraq had been spent on rebuilding the crumbling infrastructure of the country, education, improving the nation's antiquated air traffic control system, and many other domestic needs that Bush seems to think are of little or no importance in comparison to building his legacy as a macho military conqueror.
Shame.Shame,mr.presadent fore betraing the american people.Your are bankruping america?
It's amazing, Bush refused to veto any spending bill sent to him by the Republican controlled congress no matter how fiscally irresponsible their leave no wealthy individual or lobbist behind spending plan was.  Now, Bush is basically saying - Americans don't matter, no increase in domestic spending no matter how much many may need it.
This is why America needs to WAKE UP, get together, and with one voice tell the president to get his head out of his you know where, and start caring about HIS country, he cares for other countries more than America, wow real good prez there!
Sure the Democrats want to spend deficit billions to subsidize illegal aliens with food, clothing, shelter, medical, education, etc.

Its time we shut down the government until a surplus budget can begin to pay down the debt of future Americans. Otherwise, there is no future.
Mr. Bush shows the classic signs of a son who goes out of his way to prove his father is wrong, he is the misunderstood 'mommas boy' who constantly says "I'll show them". It is too bad the office of president didn't make him grow up. he is truely a lost cause, oh well mom will make him feel better when he goes home, America will not miss the great boy king and history will never vindicate his administration.
The administration and congress are not that far apart which would call for compromise, opppps, we don't do compromise in this day, looks weak, gotta get the bullhorn and lights out, we need a photo op. to keep people quiet. "Paperhanging terrorists,
'dem' Dems is evil, brown people prone to cause more crime cause we say so, spend money on more war, must prove I'm right, give job of getting Osama to old friends of same, hype fear to the point that you get to say things like "WORLD WAR THREE" MUSHROOM CLOUDS, ignore the thought that money problems ruin more marriages than gays, rise in crime and domestic abuse during economic down turn is just a fluck there is no correlation, business using illegal workers and the raise in real wages goes down but we just can't do anything now because you didn't like my first ideas.
The list of his political thoughts says loud and clear "LET THEM EAT CAKE". Don't worry jerry and followers, yours will be chocolate with jimmies on top (in Pittsburgh sprinkles are called jimmies), the rest of us will have to live with stale lemon pound cake till we vote the boy out.
Besides the fact that this war is wrong, the money we have spent in Iraq could be used for domestic programs. And how many of our brave young men and women need to die for no reason other than to satisfy a war monger, that is trying to build some kind of legacy? How can our government tell some 18 year old here's a m-16 go kill some people, but remember when you get back don't let me see you drinking a beer or you will go to jail. This president did accomplish one thing though, his legacy. He will be known as the worst president this country has ever known.
And please don't post some stupid reply like the soldiers support this war, I know some do but most like me thought it was stupid, I know I served my time in that huge mistake.
As a percentage of national income the United States spends less than any developed country on foreign aid... I suppose we should just pull out let the insurgents and militias slaughter the innocent population of Iraq after we shattered their infrastructure and allow wholesale genocide and civil war as the Democratic candiates so strongly support (ON MORAL GROUNDS!). Saying we should allow pork budgets simply because we are spending more to keep a population from certain death is idiotic, saying we should pull out and let it happen is evil.
I don't know!  Personally I believe that the president has done a great job.  People in our country can no longer afford to purchase a home because of adjustable rate mortgages; childing are going hungry and dying; the elderly can't afford to purchase the medications they need to sustain their lives; companies and corporations are moving their plants overseas (even Dich Cheney's former employer, Haliburton, has moved to the Middle East); our bridges are badly in need of repair, but the president is not concerned about how many people die in accidents from collapsing bridges; we still haven't kept the president's promise about rebuilding after Hurricane Katrina; the federal debt is so high that people can't really afford food and find it more important to pay outrageous utility bills.  Why can't the administration offer its citizens the same health insurance that congress and the president receives?  Hell, we're killing a new younger generation in war and we've borrowed so much from Social Security that this program will be fully bankrupt in 2041.  I served thirty years in the military and Bush is the worst Commander-in-Chief that I've ever served under.  Yes, I'm still serving and watching our young men dying for no important reason.  Would you like to guess what health insurance program retired presidents, vice presidents and congressmen receive?
As I sit and read or try and read this stuff, I find it hard to imagine so many miss-guided individuals. The hatred is evident and the frustrations of your own demise are even more evident. The greater good will come of today’s events in Iraq and Afghanistan and the American Sprit will prevail, with or without you! You would be better off standing behind your President and supporting the troops in time of war. This is real and if you all do not wake up, America will go down like the middle east is now.
Instead of a "major concession", the Democrats should take a "major stand" against this bullying thug.
I dont like to pay more tax out of my paycheck too much cause president want more money to spend for war. People of america dislike to pay high tax out thier paycheck from work. People of america can't afford to pay their bills or mortage. who suffer from payment by mortage cause foreclose. they want decrease payment not too high. I hopefully all people will vote All Demorcate. No more Replubican at all How you feel about this and time to think twice, Keep think about all america feeling. NOt president want his own. Respect for america people and they want you keep attend them to need help. they dont like to hear about war all time.and Time for our solider come home from irag and Afgahanisha and save our taxes from paycheck also taxes will go down. all america will be happy. No war no ivade other countries. Respect thier countries and just bring dove peace and help build up relate people. No give any defense missile for other countries cause interfere other niegbor or threat each other but can lead World War III. who will blame?? God want us to accept to friendly each countries and not hate or threat different Human races.
I applaud President Bush.  I served my internship and Residency in OB-GYN in the United States Army.  The best procedure I was taught was how to perform abortions, and the bulk of my private practice -- the means for accumulating multi-millions of dollars -- was the unwanted pregnancies.  Times are becomming lean and the President has focused his attention on war instead of a domestic policy.  Pregnancies are on the rise and women want abortions.  Now I can start regaining the money I have lost over several years of conservatives fighting against abortion (partial birth abortions were the most lucrative).  I personally believe the President should keep his focus on the War on Terror and keep his nose out of the medical professions and allow us (OB-GYN's) to continuing procedures -- most not covered by insurance and payable in cash -- but he should definitely help reduce our malpractice premiums.  The President has done a great job and we medical professionals -- looking to again increase our incomes -- applaud the spending he's initiated for war and significantly reduce the planned spending for medical coverage of the U.S, Citizenry.
Being from Crawford, Texas, I personally know Karl Rove and President Bush and I’m a Republican.  From what I’ve been told, the president plans, before leaving office, to attempt something that no other American president has dared to attempt; he plans to issue, through an Executive Order, to grant those in his administration “immunity from prosecution” for crimes committed against the American people and any crimes committed against humanity.
President Bush believes himself to be above the law, so when I was stationed at Guantanamo, we frequently saw interrogators arriving, under the guise of being from the C.I.A., who were actually from other countries hostile towards our captives.  As members of the United States Military, we received Executive Orders that military personnel were not allowed to be present when these interrogators “harshly” questioned (tortured) our detainees.  While transcripts of each interrogation actually exists, these will be destroyed, when President Bush leaves office; furthermore, I wouldn’t be surprised if our detainees were ordered “neutralized” to prevent them from speaking to a new administration about their years in captivity, or given to Israel for further detention.
If the American people believe that this has never happened and will never happen, they should think twice.  What happened to the prisoners captured during the Gulf War?  Most, if not all, of the Iraqi prisoners captured were given to the Kuwaiti people and they were never heard from again.
President Bush has destroyed the integrity of this country and has nearly caused national bankruptcy.  Now we’re borrowing money from Japan, Germany and China, all at exceedingly high interest rates, to help pay for an unjust war.  The American Soldier will fight, because we are given orders to fight, but we don’t really want to fight.  Wars never solved any problems, but sanctions and diplomacy can solve many of the world’s problems without killing.  Unfortunately American politicians believe that killing significantly reduces over population and will further reduce the number of Americans eligible for Social Security.
America tried to impeach a president for his sexual exploits, but they turn a “blind eye” when a president wants to leave a legacy of death and destruction.  Our American democracy will not work in other countries; it doesn’t even work in our own country (just look at all of the corruption that has occurred since President Bush has been in office).  It’s time the American people “cleaned house” of all of the professional politicians.  We need to change our Constitution so that politicians can’t serve more than two terms.
WHO HAS KILLED MORE PEOPLE BIN LADEN OR BUSH IF YOU CHOSE BUSH YOUR RIGHT BUSH YOU WILL BE HATED FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE BY A MAJORITY OF THE WORLD EVEN YOUR OWN COUNTRY TO HELL WITH YOU BUSH LORD PLEASE LET THIS YEAR GO BY QUICK.
Write your Congressmen and let them know they will not be getting your vote for making a cowardly deal with the devil.  Congress was elected to get Americans out of Iraq and they have completely and miserably failed.
OK. The way it works is.. We have differant parties..And they haggle over what to spend money on and what not to spend money on.. And eventually the come to some kind of compromise , and thats that.. What we have now is  a President thats saying .. its my sand box.. And if you dont give me all the toys.. Im not inviting you over to play anymore..  Or you could just call it dictatorship..
Just watched Bush announce that he hope Congress will send him a "fiscally responsible" budget. What unmitigated gall! Bush woudn't know fiscal responsibility if it smacked him in the face. How dare he use the words fiscal resposibility. In the last 7 years of his office the country has now shoulders the worst debt in history, the economy is on the brink of collapsing into recession, the trade deficit is worse, our currency is in the toilet and he continues to push for more $ for iraq. When that started we were told "a year and $50 billion" now it's over 4 years and over a trillion. Jan. 09 cannot come soon enough!!!!!
What would our founding fathers think if they were able to witness what is presently going on today?  Can you imagine what they would think about the following?: 1) warrantless wiretapping, 2) agencies  destroying evidence investigating themselves, 3) the present adminstration leading us into an unjustified and unending civil war in another country based on misinformation, 4) an administration creating laws intended to keep historical records and documents permanently hidden from the public review.  Our fore fathers would probably try to replicate some type of sybolic historic attempt to dump mass amounts of tea in the Boston Harbor only to find out that most of our products are being outsourced, and now are made in China. As Chester A. Riley use to say on the old comedy sitcom "The Life of Riley" - "What a revolting development this is...."
What would our founding fathers think if they were able to witness what is presently going on today?  Can you imagine what they would think about the following?: 1) warrantless wiretapping, 2) agencies  destroying evidence investigating themselves, 3) the present adminstration leading us into an unjustified and unending civil war in another country based on misinformation, 4) an administration creating laws intended to keep historical records and documents permanently hidden from the public review.  Our fore fathers would probably try to replicate some type of symbolic historic attempt to dump mass amounts of tea in the Boston Harbor only to find out that most of our products are being outsourced, and now are made in China. As Chester A. Riley use to say on the old comedy sitcom "The Life of Riley" - "What a revolting development this is...."


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