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Oh-eight (R): Uninspired Republicans?

Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:17 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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The New York Times on the latest NYT/CBS poll: “Republican voters across the country appear uninspired by their field of presidential candidates, with a vast majority saying they have not made a final decision about whom to support… Not one of the Republican candidates is viewed favorably by even half the Republican electorate, the poll found… By contrast, Democrats are happier with their field and more settled in their decisions.”

With waterboarding back in the news, McClatchy’s Lightman writes that the only clear opponents of the practice “are former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who recently said that waterboarding is torture and that torture should ‘not be the policy of the United States of America,’ Texas Rep. Ron Paul and Arizona Sen. John McCain.”

GIULIANI: The candidate sat down for an interview with San Francisco Chronicle editors/reporters. Some highlights:
-- On whether his past business and personal relationships have created doubts about his viability as a GOP candidate: "Anybody's career (that has) been as varied and as long and as intense as mine, there are going to be several mistakes that have been made ... but you've got to balance that against the results that I've got."
-- On concerns that his marriages, public divorce and infidelities present a question of values and loyalty to some GOP voters: "The question was, was I loyal to the people of New York City? Judging what's going on in people's personal life is usually very hard to do accurately from the outside. Because nobody knows all the different things that happened inside somebody's personal life. When you have public performance, you can judge it on that."
-- On whether he had any regrets about his conduct in those matters: "Of course, I have regrets. I have regrets about a lot of things…  A lot of things I did wrong and (there were) a lot of mistakes that I made ... but I've tried to learn from them, and improve ... constantly. I've had my own things that I've had to deal with, grow from and express apologies for… We're human beings, and we make mistakes."

The Chicago Tribune fact-checks Giuliani's ad called "One Hour," which claims that in the one hour that Ronald Reagan was sworn into office, the hostages were released. The ad goes, "That should tell us a lot about these Islamic terrorists we're facing…The best way you deal with dictators, the best way you deal with tyrants and terrorists is you stand up to them, you don't back down."

“But that's pretty much the opposite of what America did. The United States freed the hostages by begrudgingly signing the Algiers Accords, which required the United States to pledge ‘that it is, and from now on, will be the policy of the United States not to intervene, directly or indirectly, politically or militarily, in Iran's internal affairs.’”

In San Fran yesterday, Giuliani lectured the city on its homeless problem.

And did Giuliani go further than he’s ever gone before in criticizing gay Americans? The New York Times notes his statement from Sunday on Meet the Press: “‘My moral views on this come from the, you know, from the Catholic Church, and I believe that homosexuality, heterosexuality, as a way that somebody leads their life is not, isn’t sinful,’ said Mr. Giuliani, who as New York mayor temporarily moved in with two gay roommates after he separated from his wife. ‘It’s the acts — it’s the various acts that people perform that are sinful, not the orientation that they have.’”

“Wayne Besen, the executive director of Truth Wins Out, a gay rights group, said that he hoped the campaign would clarify the statement, which he said ‘seemed to parrot the religious right’s cruel and empty “love the sinner, hate the sin” rhetoric.’”

HUCKABEE: The Politico examines some of the help Huckabee may be receiving from outside groups. "Huckabee’s Iowa surge is driven largely by an eleventh-hour rally of Christian activists behind the Republican’s candidacy, and that’s certain to draw attention from tax sleuths and others. ‘We will be watching it very closely,’ says Rob Boston of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, which is also monitoring Democrat Barack Obama’s latest round of church visits in the African-American community.”

The Los Angeles Times’ headline: "Huckabee does a flip-flop on Cuba." From the article: "As governor of Arkansas five years ago, Mike Huckabee joined a bipartisan chorus of politicians who concluded that the U.S. trade embargo against Cuba was bad for businesses. Now that he's a top-tier candidate for president, Huckabee has decided he favors the embargo -- so much so that he vowed Monday to outdo even President Bush in strangling the regime of Cuban President Fidel Castro and punishing those who do business there."

Says Huckabee: "Rather than seeing it as some huge change, I would call it, rather, the simple reality that I'm running for president of the United States, not for reelection as governor of Arkansas," he said. "I've got to look at this as an issue that touches the whole country."

The New York Sun combs through the ethics violations filed against Huckabee over the years in Arkansas. "While governor, Mr. Huckabee was also the subject of 16 ethics complaints that forced him to pay $1,000 in fines for failing to report outside income and payments from his campaign fund, and he was investigated for flying Arkansas state airplanes when on personal and political business."

The AP delves more deeply into the pardons and commutations that occurred on Huck's watch in Arkansas. "Huckabee says there's nothing in his record to indicate he's soft on crime. While the number of pardons exceeded those of his predecessors, so did the size of the state prison system and so did the number of people executed."

The Hill takes a look at Huckabee's New Hampshire operation and finds: "Huckabee has only a skeletal staff in New Hampshire and scant funds for television ads as Iowa drains the bulk of his resources."

MCCAIN: The Arizona senator focused on reducing dependence on foreign oil through hydrogen and nuclear power while campaigning in South Carolina yesterday. He said he would not advocate drilling in ANWR, however.

PAUL: Paul has rejected the draft invitation of the Libertarian Party to run as its nominee.

ROMNEY: Here’s his campaign’s new TV in Iowa: “Two former governors, two good family men,” an announcer states. “Both pro-life, both support a constitutional amendment protecting traditional marriage. The difference? Mitt Romney stood up, and vetoed in-state tuition for illegal aliens … opposed driver's licenses for illegals. Mike Huckabee? Supported in-state tuition benefits for illegal immigrants. Huckabee even supported taxpayer-funded scholarships for illegal aliens. On immigration, the choice matters.”

Romney’s new ad hitting Huckabee is being released “as recent polls have shown Mr. Huckabee now leading among early caucusgoers in Iowa, displacing Mr. Romney, who has seen a drift of Christian conservatives and others toward Mr. Huckabee, a former Baptist minister. The immigration issue is a potent one in Iowa, which has had a steady influx of illegal immigrants in recent years.”

The Boston Globe adds, "The ad does not mention that Romney is a relatively recent convert to the antiabortion cause and had struck a more moderate stance on gay rights during his run for governor in 2002. Yesterday, Huckabee started his own TV ad on illegal immigration that, along with a plan he unveiled on Friday, seeks to toughen his stand. The ad - airing in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina - emphasizes building a fence on the Mexico border and shows him saying no to amnesty and to ‘sanctuary cities.’”

THOMPSON: Thompson has written off New Hampshire, it seems. The Union Leader’s lead: “Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson has no plans to return to first-primary state New Hampshire to campaign before the end of the year, a spokesman said yesterday.”

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Perry, NYC, good stuff. You must be more intimate with Rudy than most of us.

But let me explain our reason for wanting to protect marriage. And yes, it is to PROTECT marriage. 'National Reveiew' wrote an article which was quite alarming a few years back. It stated that there is currently afoot in Canada a push to remove the words, "wife" and "husband" from many government documents because those terms "discriminate" against gays.

I don't hear anybody on our side articulate why we oppose it, so I will here. What Gay Marriage is really all about is to destroy the institution of marriage. Because if Bill and Bob, or Mary and Suzy can marry, then the marriage between Bill and Janet is meaningless. Marriage will become a joke.

And 'National Review' even stated that many gays admit to not wanting to marry.

And gay rights are already in our Founding documents. "We are all created equal". "Gay Rights" are really special rights. I have a Dutch heritage, I want special rights also.

Civil unions I don't have a problem with. If they want some of the tax menefits, sure. But "marriage" between members of the same sex, no.

That is not discriminatory.

If you understand that if you say, "my wife", and somehow become labeled that you are discriminating against gays, then it becomes clear what is afoot.
Reply to Bonntiuy:  There Democrats "Best", while not perfect,  far exceeds anything the Repubs have put forward in the last 6 or seven years.  The only thing put forward by them is corruption, war and violence (4000 Americal alone) deaths under false pretenses,  a bankrupt government, bill of rights shredded for expediency, torture and loss of respect for the USA in the world, and the list goes on.  

However, on the plus side, the very rich pay less taxes (but the rest of us pay more to make it up).  The gap between rich and poor has also grown and the middle class is shrinking.  While they may not be responsible for all these issues, they for sure have not done anything to mitigate them.
"Bill Bryan of Cincinnati, you are an idiot!"
- not only that but a blatant and outright racist, and sexist.

Amazed that Bill is even aware of the internet, let alone msnbc

Oh boy. Just another set of candidates obsessed with someone else's sex life. This is the end of the GOP as a valid party. It will eventually be just the extremist christian fascist movement.
Its in the Democrats power to 'inspire' the Republicans. Just nominate Clinton.
Thank you for being honest about Huckabee. This whole 'surge' is phony and he is going nowhere in reality. The CFR controlled media is trying to control who the dark horse is, and Iowa is a sham and always has been. Because it's a nonbinding caucus, the Diebold people can screw it up all they want and not be prosecuted.
Rob, when you can prove to me exactly how my being able to marry the love of my life & receive EQUALLY the same protections from my country that are currently available to you ... somehow makes your marriage meaningless or diminishes in any way said protections you enjoy, your argument will mean something.

Until then, it is the same old homophobic horsesh*t dressed up with nice words.  Sure, SOME gay people don't want to marry.  Neither do some straight people.  What have you proved bringing that up?  NOTHING.  It's about whether or not this country practices the equal playing field ordained in our Constitution.

If you don't already understand what's unequal about all citizens not having equal access to the same protections, as promised in the 14th Amendment, I can't help you understand any further.  People blathering on about gay marriage destroying society don't want to "protect" marriage or the kids of gay couples, they want to protect their own status at the top of the pecking order.  That's what your argument is about.
I do like Romney, Guiliani, and Thompson.  I would support any of these 3 over any dem. candidate.  Biden is the only rational dem. running.  My opinion, of course.
I am a Ron Paul fanatic, I will become a contributor on December 16th with $100, and I am not a spam bot!
Romney 2008!!!
I am a Republican and I will vote for Ron Paul.
Ron Paul for the Win!!!!!!!
Romney has inspired me more than any candidate in a very long time. He is a smart man. He has a great family. He is so real even with all that he has achieved and he really cares. A president of a bank here in Hawaii said that he is amazing in real life. He wins people over when they meet him in person. He is the candidate that I would most like to show off to the international community. Huckabee would be a joke as president. He has more skeletons in his closet than anyone. I trust Romney!
If the networks and cable continue to cover the Presidential Campaigns this way, they will go the way of your daily newspaper... onto the trash heap of of history. It's NOT a horse race, American Presidential Idol or 'Who wants to marry a Presidential Candidate'- but you can't tell that from watching TV!

The TV people still cover the race like it's a reality TV show, rather than essentially a job interview for the most important position in the country. I could care less if SATAN was leading the polls, for all they're worth! There's hardly a mention of the economy, the dollar and ANY other issue that Americans consistently rank at or near the top of their list of major concerns. WHenever those subjects are brought up, most pundits eyes gglaze over since they don't comprehend the subject, or they get that deer-in-the-headlights look from fear of actually having to discuss something relevant to their viewers! Instead, we get irrelevant and diversionary swill like; Mitt and Huckabee talking about Religion; Rudy shouting '911' at every turn, then denying it's the center of his campaign; McCain alternately making sense then saying something off the wall like apathetic Americans led to Hitler's rise to power; Hillary continually trying to distance herself from her own record and previous statements; Obama bringing freaking' OPRAH on a rally tour! Like people are sheep and will do what Oprah says like cult members; and Fred thompson doing his best to shoot himself in the foot at every turn and not look bothered about it.

And then there's Ron Paul. He continues to talk about the economy, the Iraq war, the erosion of freedoms, the destruction of our national sovereignity, immigration and other important matters. But since he has no 'skeletons' in his closet, doesn't lie and then have to apologize, doesn't take positions in conflict with his own lasst week, last year or the last decade, the media doesn't want to cover him. He is last or totally dropped from most polls, as they don't include him as a choice in many of them, and the ones that do have more holes in their methodology than Hillary Clinton's Iraq policy.

I guess it's 'boring' and 'not newsworthy' to cover a candidate who actually outlines our problems and proposes tough, realistic solutions. The vast majority of Americans have become totally turned off by politics precisely because of the type of coverage presented by the TV and Print media. People are starved for meat and potatoes coverage, and all we get are sugar-coated turd sandwiches.

WAKE UP MSNBC (and the rest of the uninspired media clones)! Americans are turning to the internet (and away from TV) for their information because it is unfiltered, not censored and spoon-fed, not condescendingly presented and actually deals with issues that matter to them! They are also turning to Ron Paul, because they see the media that they distrust so much (that also disrespects their intelligence) ignoring him! It's like, 'He must be on to something, or else the media would be covering his empty suit like they do the rest of the mealy-mouth liars!'

Keep ignoring Ron Paul- it just drives people away from pablum-pusing media outlets and into the welcome arms of his campaign!

xtrabiggg
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First Read? The one sentence attributed to Paul is at least 2 days old... You people are pathetic.
Silence from Rob.  Interesting how the phobes shut up when they have no good answer.
I think it's incorrect to state that the GOP is uninspired!  Ron Paul is doing amazingly well in terms of people support, but because all is done online it does not seem to register on the polls taken by line phones. The majority has now cells only.  It' time for pollsters to come up with a new method for accurate assessment! And Reporters are not doing accurate investigations! Thank God for You Tube!! and God bless Ron Paul for President! Thanks


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