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Minutemen founder backs Huckabee

Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:18 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC/NJ’s Adam Aigner-Treworgy
COUNCIL BLUFFS, Iowa -- Huckabee announced this morning the endorsement of Jim Gilchrist, the founder of the anti-illegal immigration and border security group the Minutemen. More to come.

Huckabee also responded on Romney's ad, outlining differences on immigration. “I'm somewhat flattered as I seem to be the recipient of the first negative attack ad in the Republican Primary," Huckabee said. "That's usually a sign of desperation on the part of an opponent who feels that his only way of winning is to attack and to destroy."

More: “The people of Iowa, especially I think, are turned off by negative attack ads, and that campaign can call that [ad] anything it wants, but that's what it is, and it's the first one of the season, and we feel honored to be in the middle of it. My experience is people here kind of want to vote for somebody not just against somebody, and they like to believe that a candidate has enough of a platform that he can stand on it not knock the props out from under the guy next to him.

"If the basis of running for the presidency is, 'Let me tell you what's wrong with the other guy,' not 'Let me tell you what I'd do for America,' I think the people of Iowa -- who have been through this so many times, will say, 'I vote for the guy who has a plan for the future of America' not just somebody looking around and saying, as the tattle tale in the third grade, let me tell you what this guy's doing. We didn't like it when we were in the third grade. I don't think we like it electing a president either."

Huckabee insinuates Romney camp 'desperate,' 'frantic':
"I think they're going to make every allegation in the world. Look how many press releases come out of some of these camps per day. It's kind of like, we found something else, here's something. As long as you guys will report it they'll keep fishing it out there, so we understand that.

"This is politics and everybody understands it. Look I've been through this so many times in Arkansas, you got to understand. I swam through about as turbulent a body of water as anybody ever swims through to get elected to something. Being a Republican in my state was, as I often say, tantamount to being a fire hydrant in a neighborhood full of dogs, so this isn't the first time I've experienced this, and I've experienced it in a lot harsher ways and it'll get worse before it gets better.

"The more desperate and frantic campaigns get when they see how much money they've spend and we're winning, that causes people to do some sometimes desperate things, and that's part of the deal."

Romney campaign responds: "It’s important that voters making a decision about who to select as our party’s nominee know where the candidates stand on an important issue like immigration. 

"Governor Romney’s pro-enforcement position is one that Iowans would agree with.  Mike Huckabee’s belief that taxpayer dollars should pay for tuition breaks for illegal immigrants is entirely at odds with many Iowans.  That is important information for voters to have when choosing our party’s nominee.

"The message being delivered to voters is a contrast that draws distinctions between the two candidates on an important issue.  It’s substantive and relevant to the political debate.

"Mike Huckabee won’t refute his position on providing taxpayer-funded tuition breaks to illegal immigrants." 

More: "Our campaign has the resources, the message and the organization to compete in all the early primary states. Campaigns are, fundamentally, a contest of ideas and a vision for the future. Governor Romney is committed to leading a party of economic conservatives, social conservatives and security conservatives. In a contest of ideas, Mike Huckabee's record of more taxes, more spending and weak border security positions will lose out because those positions are at odds with our party's viewpoint and our core beliefs."

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That's great for Huckabee. But the big endorsement for Republicans is the coveted Grand Dragon of the KKK endorsement.
That's great for Huckabee. But the big endorsement for Republicans is the coveted Grand Dragon of the KKK endorsement.
That's surprising, given his past record of awarding tax-funded scholarships to illegal aliens.  His past record isn't as bad as Romney's or Guilani's; but still.  Even in a recent debate, he refers to them as "God's children."  Perhaps; but isn't everybody one of "God's children" then?  Does that mean we shouldn't prosecute theives or murderers?  Aren't they "God's children" too???  As far as the frontrunners go, I think Fred Thompson has the best past record, and present plan to deal with the illegal alien invasion....
GO FIGURE!!

Birds of a feather - maybe the dunce will be Hucks running mate
Wasn't Jim Gilchrist a crook ?
I thought he got kicked out of the Minutemen for embezzling their funds.....

He was going to build a wall on the border....
... but he built a financial empire, instead
Ladies, play nicely. Really, you both just need to go to the national creationism museum together and mull over why Democrats will soon be controlling everything.
Romney seems to think that Americans cannot tell an attack ad apart from a regular ad. We are sick of them. We don't care what your thoughts are on the next guy, tell us about yourself. When you attack, it makes you look weak.

Fred Thompson lost my vote with his attack ad, and now Romney as well.
That should boost Huckabee's immigration stance among Republicans, huh?
Who is Marylin Manson endorsing?

How about the WWF?

Jews for Jesus?

How about the flat earth society? They must be pulling their hair out.

Or Harriet Meyers? I'm dying to know who she thinks is "brilliant."

Let's not forget the Cat in the Hat, Scoobee Doo and King Neptune - all important indicators.
Hey EriK you first should learn how to spell your own name. Thanks for clearing up the myth created my liberals in the drive by media that you were a Christian terrorist, and that you were more of a Liberal leftist terrorist.

'I prefer Nietzsche to the Bible'

"Many good people continue to send me money and books," Rudolph writes in an undated letter. "Most of them have, of course, an agenda; mostly born-again Christians looking to save my soul. I suppose the assumption is made that because I'm in here I must be a 'sinner' in need of salvation, and they would be glad to sell me a ticket to heaven, hawking this salvation like peanuts at a ballgame. I do appreciate their charity, but I could really do without the condescension. They have been so nice I would hate to break it to them that I really prefer Nietzsche to the Bible."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-07-05-rudolph-cover-partone_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA
Is Huckabee soft on immigration?  NumbersUSA, a leading anti-immigration, group doesn't think so.  They rank him about even with Thompson and well ahead of Romney, Giuliani, and McCain.
http://www.betterimmigration.com/candidates/2006/prez08_gop1.html
Huckabee is a disaster!  He is terrible on illegal immigration (despite his recent endorsement), terrible on fiscal conservatism, and terrible on foreign policy!  If Evangelicals manage to get him nominated and then he loses big to Hillary, they will have A LOT of explaining to do in my eyes!
When are Romney's 5 sons going to enlist and fight in Iraq?
Hey Lee   Keep the Cat in the Hat out of Politics, will ya?
I guess Romney is taking the  "desperate times take desperate measures"
aproach. Sad sad sad.

You lost my vote
I think we should send everyone back to where they or their ancestors came from. The cutoff date for ancestors is 1200AD.
Wow -- what an endorsement!!  This should keep some of the news off Hillary and Obama tonight.
Go Huckabee Go. You have my vote!!
It must bring joy into your heart, Dave, that you can point at an abortion clinic bomber and call him "liberal."

Or does it? Doesn't that confuse you about whether liberals/ abortion clinics are good or bad?

On the one hand, you found a "liberal" who likes to murder people in favor of abortion - on the other hand, he's not murdering in the name of Christ. Confusing.
Ha.  I hope the republicans nominate Huckabee.. it will result in a Democratic landslide to the WH.  People are sick of holier than thou types telling us how to live.  Remember Larry Craig??
Go  Huck

Rommeny s ads didnt work, he should save his money, this race is over.  By the way my other posts werent put up.  Am i getting the same treatment NBC did to the group thanking the soldiers.
Go  Huck

Rommeny s ads didnt work, he should save his money, this race is over.  By the way my other posts werent put up.  Am i getting the same treatment NBC did to the group thanking the soldiers.
Huckabee is just getting a lot of different endorsements.  I would say that you need to be careful of those that give you endorsements.  Ask yourself, "What is their baggage and reputation?  How will that affect me?"  The immigration issue is so much a minefield, that one wrong statement (slip of the tounge or not) could sink you.  It is not something that I can really advise anyone on.  Be safe out there Huckabee.
Before Huckabee revels and celebrates the endorsement of Jim Gilchrest, founder of Border-Busy-Bodies (B3) he (Huckabee) should have Gilchrist (republiCON) account for the millions of $$$$$ he took in to build a fence that has NOT been built!  Where's the money Jim?  You've had defectors (former B3's) that have asked the same question with no response!  No accountability? Typical Repugnicant!
Is the endorsement of Jim Gilchrist founder of Minuteman Project worth while flaunting?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1274

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Interesting ties to white supremacists:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gilchrist#Criticism
Dave,Tn
(said nothing!)
Anyone interested in a very different story (and analysis) on illegal immigration should try:
http://goupstate.us/index.php/lanefiller/2007/11/14/the_illegal_immigrant_next_door
This is a brilliant move on the part of Gilchrist. Rather than preaching to the saved, perhaps he can change the Governor's mind on tuition and other critical issues. This is a great move toward uniting the party.
Steve in Sellersville- I feel sorry for anyone that is so consumed with hate that he would compare children seeking an education and a better life to thieves and murderers.  Consider this...how likely is an uneducated child to become a thief or murderer as apposed to an educated child? But then again, if a child becomes educated he might become...God forbid...your supervisor.   Oh the horror!


I think Mike Huckabee won the nomination today.
Romney has resources?  that means he keeps writing checks to himself.  If he were not loaded he would be behind Duncan Hunter.  Go Huck!
Dave,Tn
(said nothing I wanted to hear because it doesn't fit my liberal truth!)
A.Brocco, Albq. NM (Sent Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:47 PM)

There fixed that for you.:-)
Finally, a true Christian is being heard.  Not a cult member, not a wannabe, but a true man of God.  This is what we need, a return to our fundamental Christian roots rather than godless actions and quotes from those eager to please with nothing but contempt to offer.

Go Mike, go.  You got my vote and thank you for raising the water level for all the candidates.
Jerry W, Cumming GA:'...Finally, a true Christian is being heard.  Not a cult member, not a wannabe, but a true man of God....'

Don't we have a 'man of God' in the White House ?
I thought the decider was a 'man of god'
Didn't God choose Boy George to be President ?
(or was that the Supreme Court?)

'...This is what we need, a return to our fundamental Christian roots...'

Does that include slavery and snake handling ?
How about keepin' em barefooted and pregnant ?
Does Jesus hate fags ?

'...Go Mike, go.  You got my vote and thank you for raising the water level for all the candidates....'

Huckabee seems decent enough...
It's some of his self-righteous supporters...

Question: is a fertilized egg a human being ?

WOW this is perfect I was on the fence (no pun intended) about Huckabee until this endorsement. This just shows how serious Mike is about immigration. He has my vote now !!
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong

Go Huck
I was leaning toward Romney, but this ad seems to be a desperate attempt to play elementary poltics. Im not stupid! I know how to look at the records of these canidates. What are you going to do for the country Mitt?  You lost my vote. I like Mike!!
Please nominate Huckleberry! he's the one republican candidate who trails ALL democrats by double digits, and that was before his signing of the Baptist screed that all women should serve their husbands! The Republican wives in civilized states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Illinois and Florida are just going to love that. Huckleberry for Republican nominee!
Mike Huckabe?  Elmer Gantry?  Ted Haggert?  George Bush?-------------------no thank you-----These people use GOD for their own benefits not for the countrys
The first meathead who can convince me that he will secure our borders has my vote. Higher taxes, lower taxes, health care, disenfranchised black people- it's all just soap opera while they wave in another million taco flailers. If a guy in another country is stupid enough to load up on kids and responsiblity god help his sorry ass. We don't need them and there shoud be a paid bounty on them, ridding our country of this kind of. Unfortunatley god creates winners and losers.
Wow - I personally find the ad very instructive and helpful and not "negative" in its content.  I'm also one that actually finds Mr. Huckabee's previous immigration stance more appealing than the change he has made in the last week or so.  

Unfortunately, it now seems apparent that Mr. Huckabee is just as likely to "flip" his positions as Mr. Romney (and all the others, including Democrat candidates) on issues he deems critical to his party's respective nomination.  I'm not surprised, but I am disappointed.  

The bottom line for me is that I'm still trying to decide whom to vote for, but it's surely not going to based upon something as superficial as an accurate ad, albeit one that draws distinctions.  Picking our next President seems much too important an endeavor to be decided on such an insignificant item.  For me the fact that Mr. Huckabee has so quickly changed positions is a much more significant factor that I'll use in weighing whom to vote for.    
Its sad to say but MOST people don't know enough about the candidates to make good decisions. Take Gulianni for  example. He is bad news all over but just because people  know his name he is going to get votes. I don't think it  is bad informing people what Huckabee's position on immigration is unless it is something untrue. To those of you who said that Romney lost your votes, like you were planning on voting for him anyway.
The NATIONAL REVIEW OnLINE LAYS out very clearly why Romney is the RIGHT CHOICE...Huckabee is too extreme and on the wrong side on MANY issues...he would be the MCGOVERn of our time...
I notice that Mike does not address his poor record on supporting illegals.  It is easier to wine about how he has been attacked.  If you cant point out the difference between you and another candidate then this race has gotten stupid.  I think Mike's faked indignance shows how shallow his is.
Will the real Nehemiah Scudder please stand up!
It is such a pleasure to hear a well educated rational voice (Romney) in contrast to an opponent (Huckabee) who is still using juvenile contrasts; ie.: third grade tattletails?  Grow up Mr. Huckabee and take the responsibility of a real cadidate.  You've not exactly pussy footed in saying negative things about Romney; specially behind closed church doors. Are you still the only Christian who will NOW not even say that publically????
wow! what's with all the christianophobia on these boards.
Candidate challengers…..run for you lives!
Huckabee is coming! Huckabee is coming!
Defend your political war chests, run more attack ads, switch to negative campaigning…
America is saying Washington is not for sale anymore..!
Romney is the only candidate that can address the financial challenges that face our nation.  Romney is the most balanced candidate.  Just read the National Review indorsement today.  There is nothing wrong with discussing the issues in the adds. Romney's adds were very tastefully done and are not negative attack adds. It is time for Huckabee to start addressing the issues.


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