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More oh-eight (D): Under pressure?

Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:06 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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CLINTON: On Nightly News last night, NBC’s Andrea Mitchell reported on Clinton and her experience argument. “Her chief argument against Barack Obama has been that she has the experience to get things done. What was her experience as first lady? The record is mixed. She had huge influence -- but was widely blamed for a health care proposal so secretive (and complex) it died at birth.” More: “Supporters say she's learned since that setback. And, the campaign claims, she played a major role in her husband's foreign policy.” Watch it here.

So is the Clinton camp in such disarray that state operatives are now freelancing? That's one way one can interpret the decision by Clinton New Hampshire co-chair Billy Shaheen to talk up Obama's drug past. “The remarks represented the most direct criticism by a top official in the Clinton campaign. A Clinton spokesman, Phil Singer, said, ‘These comments were not authorized or condoned by the campaign in any way.’ Mr. Singer would not say whether the campaign distanced itself from the remarks or if Mr. Shaheen would be reprimanded.”

“In a statement later, Mr. Shaheen said, ‘I deeply regret the comments I made today, and they were not authorized by the campaign in any way.’” 

Newsday's “campaign angst” story focuses on the campaign's message man, Mark Penn. “With Clinton barely holding her own against Barack Obama and John Edwards in Iowa, dissatisfaction is growing with Penn, who some say has mistakenly run Clinton as a de facto incumbent. ‘There are two people who have come up with this strategy -- one Hillary Clinton and one Mark Penn,’ said a top Clinton ally, speaking on condition of anonymity. ‘Mark wanted to run her, basically, for re-election, and we are seeing what happened.’”

Under the headline, “Hypocrisy 101,” the New York Post writes of the Clinton campaign, “After hitting Barack Obama's campaign hard for his bid to get thousands of out-of-state college kids at Iowa colleges to vote for him, Hillary Rodham Clinton's team launched its own effort to urge students to take part in the caucus on Jan. 3.”

The Wall Street Journal reports Bill Clinton will likely "curb ties" with Ron Burkle if his wife gets the Dem nod. "The financial value of Mr. Clinton's Yucaipa relationship hasn't been disclosed. Yucaipa has invested in a range of businesses. But some of the business ventures involving Messrs. Burkle and Clinton have already generated controversy. Early this year one of the Yucaipa domestic funds where Mr. Clinton was senior adviser became embroiled in a battle to win control of a bankrupt auto-hauling company. Critics contended Mr. Clinton's union connections helped Mr. Burkle win big concessions from the Teamster's union, which represented many of the workers at the company."  

Young and the Restless star Victoria Rowell will be back on the stump for Clinton, this time today in South Carolina.

Per the Los Angeles Times, “Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is anticipating that she will not have to wait long to become the Democratic presidential nominee, privately telling campaign donors in California that the race ‘is all going to be over by Feb. 5.’” More: “‘You've got to realize that people in California will start voting absentee about the time Iowa and New Hampshire happen,’ the senator from New York said at a closed-door fundraising reception Tuesday evening. ‘In fact, more people will have voted absentee by the middle of January than will have voted in New Hampshire, Iowa and a lot of other places combined.’”

EDWARDS: Yesterday, actor Tim Robbins joined Edwards on the Iowa trail.

USA Today's Lawrence checks in on Edwards' Iowa campaign and finds he has a lot of support for veteran caucus goers. Does this mean the campaign is rooting for a Jan. 3 ice storm? 

OBAMA: The Boston Globe front-pages Obama’s rise in New Hampshire and Clinton’s tactics: “With less than a month to go until the New Hampshire primary, two new polls yesterday showed that Hillary Clinton's once-daunting lead has evaporated, putting her into a dead heat with Barack Obama.”

Per NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan, Minnesota Rep. Betty McCollum (D) endorsed Obama, citing his opposition to the Iraq war and call for change in Washington, and so did former South Carolina Democratic Party Chair Joe Erwin. Irwin cited Obama's message of change and the team on the ground in South Carolina as the reasons why he jumped on board. And in Iowa four county chairs jumped on board the campaign as well. Erwin said that "race mattered in South Carolina," but pushed back against the notion that Obama's support was primarily African American. He said that while the majority of the crowd who attended the rally with Oprah and Obama was African American that there were white voters as well and that Obama did have a cross over appeal. Black voters in South Carolina make up 49% of the Democratic Party electorate.

Time magazine looks at Obama's efforts to reach out to the small number of minorities in Iowa. "While Obama pursues his comprehensive caucus strategy, his chief rivals, who benefit from the vast majority of union endorsements, have taken a more targeted approach. Edwards, the only Democrat who has been to all 99 of Iowa's counties, is focusing on turning out rural  caucus-goers, said Dan Leistikow, Edwards' Iowa spokesman. Clinton is focusing her efforts on women, a natural constituency for the former First Lady that is ripe for the picking. In 2004, just 66,690 of 340,241 female registered Democrats in Iowa caucused, or just 20%, compared to the 281,049, or 83%, who voted in the general election."

The Weekly Standard's Steve Hayes has been in Iowa following Obama. "The most striking thing about Obama on the campaign trail is how little time he spends discussing national security issues. He acknowledges, characteristically, that we are at war, but then does little to explain how he proposes to win. We will withdraw from Iraq in 16 months, he promises, and fight al Qaeda in Afghanistan. What if al Qaeda remains in Iraq? Aside from a ‘strike force’ ready to take them out, we are left to wonder.”

“Mostly, Obama thinks America will be stronger when she is more respected, and she will be more respected when she is more engaged. (He does not explain the simultaneous growth of al Qaeda and multilateralism in the 1990s.) To that end, he boasts that he plans to talk to our enemies, including Kim Jong Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Although Hillary Clinton criticized his position as ‘naive,’ when he first articulated it in a debate, crowds here in Iowa give him sustained applause every time he mentions it.” 

RICHARDSON: “Richardson's campaign announced yesterday that Luis Tiant, the portly pitcher with the whirling-dervish delivery, will be the guest of honor at an event in Manchester on Sunday evening.” 
 
Richardson implored Iowans yesterday, "I know I can change this country, and I know I can win. Iowans like to shock people. You like underdogs."

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That "unauthorized" Sheehan "slip" (wink, wink, wink, nudge) is going to continue blowing up in Clinton's face at least all morning. The Dem debate might change the subject in the afternoon, unless she decides to unleash two barrels of sleaze on Obama or Edwards in the middle of the debate.

I hope Obama and Edwards just back away in horror from the burning wreckage of her campaign and don't try to fire back with a similar shot.
I hope that Clinton's attempt to smear Obama and try to insinuate that he "sold" drugs will seriously come back to bite them in the hiny.  That strategy is absolutely despicable and if she can't run her campaign how can she run the country.  So much for having a mistake free campaign.  What with three of her staff found to be sending the e-mail about Obama is a Muslim, Bill saying he was opposed to the Iraq war from the beginning, no need to mention all of them.  But she is off message and Obama has shaken her up.  
Mr. Singer would not say whether the campaign distanced itself from the remarks or if Mr. Shaheen would be reprimanded.”

I would suggest some proof, like a picture or witnesses that saw him doing blow before I would ever make a statement like that again.  Of course they are not going to fire him, it was in the Clinton game plan all along.


Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is anticipating that she will not have to wait long to become the Democratic presidential nominee, privately telling campaign donors in California that the race ‘is all going to be over by Feb. 5.’”

Maybe for her campaign.  I'm sure the weirdo left wingers will vote for her whether she gets whipped in the first few primaries.  

Bill Clinton and his sleazy ties to sleazy people makes you wonder if Sleaze is the key to their lives.
As an Obama supporter, I am so glad to see Andrea Mitchell question Hillary's great "experience" claim! Being First Lady is not "experience" for the presidency. Bungling the issue of Health Care is not good "experience" for your presidential resume. Siding with George Bush in the Senate on Iraq and Iran is not good "experience" for a Democratic presidential candidate. Also, on this whole drug use issue - what about Bill "not inhaling?" At least Obama has been up front and honest - can't say the same for the Clintons back in 1992 - or now, if they are wanting us to believe that Bill and Hill knew nothing about what this staffer in NH was going to say. Democrats - WAKE UP!! Don't be sucked in by the Clinton machine! We need a fresh start - a uniter and healer - not a polarizer from the 1990s. Just one more point - Hillary better not count on California going her way if Obama wins in Iowa and NH, as California's absentee voters (40% of the Democrats) can start voting immediately after the NH Primary, and if they see Obama is sweeping, they will most likely join in! Go Obama!!!
Does anyone really beleive that the National co-chair of Hillary's campaign was acting on their own yesterday? Van, will You be the 1st to condemn this stuff, or just say,like Hillary, that is Not the veiw that she shares? Signs of desparation so late in the campaign. It's sad!!!
I think it is absolutely disgusting that Hillary Clinton's campaign would attempt to make an issue out of old news like Obama's drug use as a teenager. But what is worse is the false assertion made on MSNBC today by Patrick Buchanan that Senator Barack Obama was a drug dealer. That is an obvious RACIST STEREOTYPE and I am surprised that MSNBC would allow someone to come on their network and make such malicious claims. It sounds like slander to me disguised as commentary.
As an African American Democrat, I am appalled and I will see to it that this story gets widely circulated in the black media because those kind of tactics are uncalled for and anyone who stoops to that level does not deserve our vote.
Even a political neophyte will tell you that Clinton's experience argument is meaningless. To make the matter worse, the Clinton starts throwing mud at the new kid on the block.

They even accused him of been a drug dealer, when in fact he is not. They attack is kindergarten essay, attack is faith and conviction. What else will they do next?

The most offensive part of their argument is calling him a drug dealer. As an African American, I found such comment from Clinton highly offensive. I am pretty sure the black community won't take this comment likely with the Clinton's campaign.

The Clinton’s campaign is as phony as you can bet. The more she attacks the more her negative rating goes up. I'd rather vote for someone that is for real and is candid about his past mistake. To equate every successful leaders as a drug dealer because of their past struggled with drugs is far fetch for me. It is the most ridiculous thing I have ever hard from a politician like Hillary Clinton.

A vote for Clinton is a vote for chameleon and a phony politician. What differentiate Hillary Clinton from Don Imus?
If anyone buy that Hillary did not know what one of her top people were going to say, then I have some swamp land I want to sell you.  I am quite sure she told her people, especially the top ones, that she want to know and approve all releases especially one that could cause her such negative opinions.  I don't see Hillary with her experience in campaigning not informing her staff of that.  If she didn't she should have.  Just like corporations, whatever the staff does is the corporation's fault and it has to pay for the staff's mistakes, etc.  Hillary you are accoutable for your people.  I still say you knew.  You played the lawyer trick by putting something before the jury and although the judge strikes it, it is too late because the jury has heard it.

By the way, with that comment they were putting Obama in what most Americans think of black males (drug dealers or gang bangers).  She better be careful on how she attacks Obama because she can lose most if not all the blacks that supports her.  One thing we do is come to the rescue of our own especially if they are being attacked without cause.  Some blacks believed OJ was guilty, but they came to his defense because too many (whites) were against him.
"The most striking thing about Obama on the campaign trail is how little time he spends discussing national security issues. He acknowledges, characteristically, that we are at war, but then does little to explain how he proposes to win. We will withdraw from Iraq in 16 months, he promises, and fight al Qaeda in Afghanistan. What if al Qaeda remains in Iraq? Aside from a ‘strike force’ ready to take them out, we are left to wonder.”
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I made this point yesterday--except I have to say that none of the candidates seems to spend much time talking about al Qaeda or the situation in Afghanistan.  I really would like to hear more from all of them.
Matt Yglesias has a post about the effect of Obama on conservative writers like Stephen Hayes.
He calls it The Trick and it's something Obama does that  makes republicans like him even though they know Obama is a progressive.
there is one line, Matt quotes from another fellow blogger that is just hillarious regarding Hayes:

As Jason notes, the striking thing here is "that Hayes recognizes this as a trick--and he still falls for it!"

for the article
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/12/the_trick.php
RICHARDSON: “Richardson's campaign announced yesterday that Luis Tiant, the portly pitcher with the whirling-dervish delivery, will be the guest of honor at an event in Manchester on Sunday evening.”

Richardson implored Iowans yesterday, "I know I can change this country, and I know I can win. Iowans like to shock people. You like underdogs."

That may be true, but Bill Iowans don't like you!
Personally, I find it encouraging and reassuring that the lame stuff Team Hillary has thrown against Obama in the last couple of weeks is apparently the best they've got.

Lets review:

"Obama is a Muslim";

"Obama has wanted to be Prez since kindergarden";

"Obama used cocaine a few times as a teenager";

"Obama has a longstanding contributor (Rezko) who is under investigation for charges completely unrelated to Obama";

"Obama is poopy because he pointed out that Krugman had changes his tone in his review of Obama's health plan";

"yada, yada, yada."

If this is the best the vaunted Clinton Oppo-Team can come up with, then Obama should be in great shape.

Team Hillary looks increasingly incompetent and desperate. Every time she attacks she confirms the meme that she is mean and willing to play dirty to win. She is in a box of her own design.

This junk doesn't stick to Obama, in part because it is petty, and in part, because Obama comes across to most voters as authentic and basically ethical
Really, what else could she run on?  She voted for the war (three times) and she has the same corrupt corporate affiliations (recent news of husband Bill's attempt to shed the family portfolio of compromising investments) for which we lambast the Republicans.  She IS an 'incumbent', an incumbent who doesn't have much to show for her incumbency.  Hillary is certainly not the candidate of change.  She doesn't represent the new kind of politics of which Obama speaks.  This last blindside by Billy Shaheen is evidence of how the Clinton machine works, just like the Lee Atwater/Karl Rove Republicans.  Penn is just a symptom of the underlying disease and ridding the campaign of him will do little to change the underlying theme of a candidacy that is just wrong for America.  Do we really want 4 more years of this crap?  I, for one, want something entirely different and that is what comes with the candidacy of Barack Obama.
Obama '08
And just who is stepping up on the Democratic side? Certainly not Hillary, she is in real danger of not finishing first in the three early states. National polls mean nothing if she doesn't finish first in at least two of those states.

Both sides may be looking at not having a secure nominee going into the conventions.
Iowans do like underdogs.  That's why we like Joe Biden.  That, and the fact that he has more experience than any of the other candidates.  Not to mention that he is actually productive in the Senate, and isn't shy about stating his opinions (as Sara pointed out) BEFORE the votes are cast.  
Well I guess it's true what Hillary said "It Takes A Village To Lynch A Black Candidate".....
Well not exactly her quote but it seems to me that now that she see's that she is no shoe in for the nomination she is pulling out the folks to start doing her hatchet work. Now it begins the darkness starts to envelop the Democratic party. We have in Obama the first fresh face with fresh ideas and an ideology that could rival Robert Kennedy (yea I am old enough to remember) In Obama we have a hope that I have not had in many years; and no I was not proud of Bill Clinton either. We all knew that this day was coming 8 years ago it is no suprise but Hillary did not see Obama in her crystal ball.
Typical Clinton campaign manuever here. Novak reported six weeks ago that the Clinton camp had the goods on Obama about drugs, but "wouldn't use it" in the campaign.

Everyone knows the Clintons have teams of detectives digging dirt on their rivals; then leaking the goods to the media through normally "anonymous" sources. This is their modus operandi.

Obama is a decent guy and really doesn't deserve this. But that's why nice guys don't run for president. Is our country better for it? Think about that before pulling the lever for Hillary this primary season.

Sincerely,

(a random conservative Republican voter)
what a laugh! hillary has never come clean about a criminal real estate deal, and wants to bust a city boy for using blow. I can just imagine the next headline from the old fart former first lady "Obama listens to that long hair rock music." I've been open to Hillary for the past several months, but this closes the door for me. HRC, go back to the 50's with your Stepford buddies
Will the NH Officials Attack Hillary on the Sex Scandal in the White House? Or will it be "Hush hush it's Hillary"

How low will the Clinton campaign go?

Someone said, everyone in America should have a night at the movie and watch the movies "Primary Colors."

Mr. Obama was young and admitted it in his book.

Here we have two experienced professionals and obviously they have got this game down to a science, that they know how to make Americans feel they have "a right" to get back in the White House.

First we have him going all over the country promoting the book and campaigning for her. Something has got to be wrong with this?

If she wants to be President of these United States, why is he campaigning so hard for her?

They have an advantage over everyone.

And the fact that they disgraced the highest office in the United States, are we that desperate for them to get back into the White House?

Where was she when all that was going on? If she could not defend us from that, how can we trust her to defend and protect us, if anything major happens to America?

All I am reading from her, is that I did not give anyone permission to release any of these e-mails or comments.

If she does not have any control over the then President, do not have any control over her campaign workers, how will she have control again over the highest office in America?

Are we that desperate, that America will compromise our values and integrity once again?

The world was looking then, and they are watching us again, especially with this Clinton saga.

If the media (i.e., print, television, radio) is not going to hold them to that disgraceful time in America, remember Mr. Former President said "I DID NOT INHALE," they need to back off of any and every candidate running for the Office of the President of these United States.

If they are going to go after one, they need to go after them also.

Otherwise, who are we kidding
It's disappointing to see Bill Shaheen lobbing personal attacks at Obama. Though one realizes he is a formidable Clinton surrogate, his comments may very well come back to haunt his wife, former Governor Jeanne Shaheen, who's trying to unseat incumbent U.S. Senator John Sununu next year.

As the chair of the Laconia Democratic Party in Laconia, NH, I've heard from a number of Obama supporters today who are livid about Bill Shaheen's remarks, with many threatening to not support Jeanne next November. Given that Obama seems destined to accumulate 30 to 40 percent of the vote in January's presidential primary, it doesn't make sense that Bill would want to antagonize such a significant share of the party's voters
Well, the Clintons once again have brought Amercan politics back into the gutter. Instead of debating about healthcare, education, Iraq, the economy, national debt, global warming, and all sorts of other important critical issues, the Clintons now have us arguing about someone's past youthfull indescretions. Perhaps its time to clarify Hillary and her husband's past indescretions -- starting with Lewinsky, Jones, Flowers, then how about Whitewater, Vince Foster, Travelgate and on and on and on. America is sick of dirty politics and sick of Bush and now getting sick of the Clintons. We need change.

As Obama rises in the polls, I expect to see more and more of this trash promulgated by the Clinton Smear Machine. As I have thought all along...Hillary is part of the problem not part of the solution
As Obama rises in the polls, I expect to see more and more of this trash promulgated by the Clinton Smear Machine. As I have thought all along...Hillary is part of the problem not part of the solution
I'm flabbergasted that Obama, still completely wet behind the ears, is being taken seriously by any Democrat. For goodness sake this is the time for the toughest, smartest, tuned in pol they've got. Republicans will have him for lunch (make that a light snack). Wake up folks!!
I am done with the Clintons, period. I don't care about both husband and wife anymore. Enough of this mess; I am tired of Clinton’s fatigue and politics of personal destruction.

Thank God she is not the only choice running in Democratic Party. This woman will collapse the whole Democratic Party.
While the front runners spend their time with
verbal sparring and searching for things to use against each other, perhaps more attention should be given to those other candidates who are going about the serius business of campaigning on the issues. Might prove informative!
So, it's perfectly permissible for Obama staff to insinuate that Hillary is beholden to Indian lobbyists and for Obama to claim he knew nothing about it and would not have approved it.  Because we all know, if Obama says it, it must be true, right?  But with any other campaign, the buck stops at the candidate.  

How DOES Obama get off so easily?  
This is what i called foreign experience not dinning and winnie with the power block

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jTMaKhUSTQU
Why are Van and Carrie silent on defending thier queen? If this is Hillary's strategy, then this really, really crosses the line. If she didn't know this was coming, then Hillary has pitiful control over her staff. She did ask him to resign or fire him. This looks like Pres GW a la Libby, Gonzolas, Rove "protect my herd no matter what they do or say". She has proven she will be a continuation of GW. Normally I try to look at the big picture, but this is NOT the kind of president I want. Right now I could careless what her views are. There IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS!!! It's hard enough to overcome minority stereotypes. Everyone needs to understand we all can be hurt from this. This paints whites as closet racist and minorities as crack dealers. This is not the America I want, but this is what we will get with Clinton. I wonder if someone is going to ask BILL if he was dealing so much weed he didn't have time to inhale? No. Only black people are dealers. ALL WHO ARE WITH CLINTON SHARES HER VIEWS.
This whole race has gotten so ridiculous lately that, for amusement, I did a little digging into "Psychic Mary-Land" to see what those of the astrological persuasion had to say about the current signs and portents:

It is always a mistake to attack while Mars is retrograde  --  as it has been since November 15, and will be until January 30; aggression tends to rebound on the initiator during these times. Add to that the spectacular eruption of Comet 17P/Holmes (splashy comets have traditionally been held to herald the "fall of princes") exactly one week before Senator Clinton's famous late-October debate performance, and the star-crossed nature of her candidacy lately focuses up quite nicely ... and notorious party-pooper Saturn is in her native sign of Scorpio as well  --  for the next couple of years ...

'Course, no thinking person believes any of that tripe; and I offer it only as one of those inexplicable coincidences between fact and superstition that just sorta makes a fella scratch his head, sometimes ...  
So what if the repubs do come out and ask the same questions to Obama- he did drugs didn't he? He brought it up himself and now its a fair game. Obama wants to take credit for admitting he did drugs, but takes umbrage when questions are being asked?
Thanks, Bee and Anisha,  I do not want this to become a race issue.  But I am sick and tired of the stereotypes labeled to us as Black Americans.

The Clintons used in the past and I hope every Black person in America knows the labeling the Clintons used against Obama as a "drug dealer" and stop this mindless support of the Clintons.

The Clintons are not for us.  They only want to use our votes, pretend to like us and stab us in the back if it useful them.
So, it's perfectly permissible for Obama staff to insinuate that Hillary is beholden to Indian lobbyists and for Obama to claim he knew nothing about it and would not have approved it.  Because we all know, if Obama says it, it must be true, right?  But with any other campaign, the buck stops at the candidate.  

How DOES Obama get off so easily?  

Carrie, Eastern Iowa (Sent Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:43 AM)

Probably for the same reasons Clinton would get off easy on these two gaffes in a week if it weren't so close to the election and so many people weren't paying attention. Timing is everything.
All HRC keep saying is that I did not give anyone permission to release any of these e-mails or comments.
The reason she she states this is because Bill has stated that he used drugs, but that he didn`t inhale,
LOL who believs that S&%^&$%$ has got to be just as lame as they are.
Lets keep that piece of info in the media.
Bill used drugs but he didn`t inhale and see what comes of that.
Will the media keep printing that info?
No and we know why. They are so far deep into the clintons back pockets you will need a mshovel to dig them out. The clinton machine hae bought a lot of the media time and space, why do you think it has always beem HRC this HRC that, the keep a focus on her and it is not because she is the first woman to run either.
Its because the media has been bought and paid for by the that bad machine.


OBAMA 08'....................Yeah!!

She is weak how can she lead this country when that all she says.
If she can`t run/control her campagn how can she run/control this country.
Too many times she has used this lame excuse.
Has anybody at firstread seen today's polls at Realclearpolitics. What say you!!! Not to your liking Eh!
Go Hilary go!
Carrie,

I don't need to respond to your comment because you are as insensitive as Hillary Clinton. Here is my take for folks like you who called themselves democrats and condone politics of personal destruction. Even the Republican Party won’t go that low, what a shame

Democratic Party will sink if the party leaders allow Hillary Clinton to kill the morale of the party.  Democrats have won most of the election by counting on the most reliable AA votes and for Hillary to go that low is ridiculous. She basically just cost herself AA votes in SC, GA, AL, and PA e.t.c
Hillary cant even control her high level campaign staff. How could she ever expect us to believe that she could handle the pressures of leading our country. Just too many really stupid mistakes. Shows a real lack of judgement in the people around her too. I'm going with Obama. I loved Bill, but I just cant go there again with Hillary. I'm tired of the same old BS.
Carrie, Eastern IA: Iowans do like underdogs.  Is that Hillary's new Iowa strategy?  How clever.  Fine, I'll throw you a bone too, Go Joe!

**No, I was just going to comment that if Sen. H.R. Clinton continues in the current direction too much longer, I'll have to start defending her, because I like the little guy too.


"While Obama pursues his comprehensive caucus strategy, his chief rivals ...have taken a more targeted approach."
--I think this is a strong positive and a true sign of leadership.  Obama once again demonstrating that he wants to be President for the entire American people, not just a section or selected sections of the country.  I can't wait to see him dominate the General, it won't even be funny.
I'm a guessing van just kept his head under the pillows today. Wake up van, it's 3pm est. Btw, 1st read, on another thread today, Obamarama's post included the N word, are you condoneing this racist post or are you going to take them down IMMEADITATLY!!!!! I think it's on the hillary apoligizes thread. It's just stupid of you all to let such Filth get thru to post.
Aww Bee, I'm so sorry you don't like me.  Really.

I'm insensitive because...why?  Because I can see that Obama DID THE SAME DAMN THING when he passed the buck on the D-Punjab email.  But again, you can't see past your freakin' nose when it comes to Hillary.  She is bad, everyone else is good, end of story.

This is exactly why I have been ignoring you for the past week.  I will go back to doing that now.
I'm insensitive because...why?  Because I can see that Obama DID THE SAME DAMN THING when he passed the buck on the D-Punjab email.  But again, you can't see past your freakin' nose when it comes to Hillary.  She is bad, everyone else is good, end of story.

Carrie, Eastern Iowa (Sent Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:32 PM)

There is no real difference in the two except that the Obama story happened a long time ago (in campaign terms), and Clinton's is happening now - and under a much more powerful microscope, however unfair it is. They are both technically responsible for what happens in their campaigns, but I don't think either of them really had anything to do with it.
Now even Andrea hates Hillary. Is there no end to this womans suffering?


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