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Yesterday's debate (R)

Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:21 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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The debate was so newsless that the Los Angeles Times lead is on the apology Huckabee offered to Romney AFTER the debate regarding his comment about Jesus and Satan and the Mormon faith.

The New York Times called it a "sleepy affair." "The candidates largely stuck to their talking points, which allowed Mr. Huckabee, a former preacher, to showcase his folksy aphorisms."

The Washington Post says it was a "lifeless debate." More: “Former senator Fred D. Thompson (Ten.), who has struggled as a candidate, sought to nudge back into contention with one of his better performances at the debate after pledging this week to campaign ‘nonstop’ in Iowa until the state's Jan. 3 caucuses. But overall, the debate seemed to do little to change the Romney-Huckabee dynamic in the nation's first caucuses.”

The Politico's Martin: "It was a typical if not necessarily spectacular Huckabee performance. But without his two top rivals here training their guns on him and with the inexplicable and antic presence of Alan Keyes offering a diversion, typical was enough."

The Boston Globe: "The tone of the debate reflected an unwillingness among the leading candidates to risk Iowans' ire by harshly attacking their opponents this close to the vote, and a decision by the moderator not to probe their views on illegal immigration, an especially volatile topic that provoked heated exchanges in past debates.”

The Boston Globe's Canellos was also annoyed by the Keyes inclusion: "The large number of marginal candidates -- including Tancredo, Representative Duncan Hunter of California, and even talk-show host Alan Keyes, making a surprise appearance as if beamed out of the 2000 GOP debates -- was a distraction from the business at hand: choosing a nominee."

Human Events' Jennifer Rubin thought Fred Thompson did well. "Indeed his entire performance -- filled with mature reminders on entitlements, national defense, and removing judges from the business of dabbling in social policy was plainly his best yet."

 The Des Moines Register’s Yepsen also gives the “debate” to Thompson. He called him “specific, good-humored and exuded an executive persona.”

After the debate, NBC’s Bethany Thomas reports, McCain said he was unhappy when the moderator said the topics of immigration and Iraq would be avoided. McCain recently returned from a trip to Iraq over Thanksgiving and emphasizes the war heavily at most campaign stops. “I was rather astonished. In all due respect, I think those issues need to be talked about because they are important to the people of Iowa.”

Giuliani also criticized the debate format yesterday, NBC/NJ’s Matt Berger notes. "One of the things that I found unsatisfying about the debate today was that it cut off discussing Iraq and illegal immigration. They are two of the biggest issues that face us." Giuliani later said he believed moderator Carolyn Washburn, the editor of the Des Moines Register, "did a good job of asking the questions she asked. But I think it was a mistake to leave out terrorism, Iraq, Iran and immigration."

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Carolyn Washburn is a joke.  If that is the best they have to ask questions in Iowa, she seriously needs more training in debate prep then the candidates do.
All of these guys...although going out of their way to never bring up the name of George W. Bush, possibly the most unpopular President in the history of the Republic, essentially have offered no policies that differ from the aforementioned Bush.  Needless to say, this would indeed make for a boring gathering.
Laying out the policies of George W. Bush, and then laying claim to them..is not a way into the White House.  Nevertheless, a Huckabee White House, a Guiliani White House, a McCain White House, etc. would look exactly like the current White House...they march in lock step with Bush.
Americans don't want another vindictive Theocracy-based President. The latest one has pretty much queered that forever.
OH MY GOSH a debate that you cant spin .You guys must hate that a fourm where the canadates give their positions without catty silly remarks like "immigrant mansions"or those you said and now your correcting yourself crap too bad news sellers notice i didnt say providers SELLERS too bad.Fred did go there though but the actor line seemed to backfire on the law and order actor.
Fred Thompson showed yesterday that he was a true leader and was tired of the ridiculous questions from the moderator.  We are trying to elect a President here and only Fred stepped up and challenged the process.
The debate was interesting, but the smart voters will do more research than just watching a debate. The polls dont lie. http://OurVote.us/
Jill...are you serious?  You might want to ask some past candidates about whether poll numbers are an honest indicator of victory in an election.  

Fred Thompson proved he is the real leader of the group the minute he said he would enter this race when it was time, rather than pandering to the media calls for him to jump in with the rest of the group.

He proved it again by coming up with detailed white papers, when none of the others that have been campaigning much longer bothered with it...yet, they call him lazy.

He proved it again last night, when he basically said enough games.  America needs a true leader that isn't afraid to be honest with us, even when it's not what we want to hear.  I KNOW who it is that I want as this nations' President, because I've seen him keep his campaign promises and refuse to buckle under pressure.  I don't have to wonder about his position on issues that are important to me, because he's kept the same ones throughout his Senate career.  

I KNOW who I want leading our military men and women (having come from a long line of them)...the only candidate I trust when he's making the tough decisions required of our leaders, because he is a man of strength, courage and morals...something that has been lacking in Congress lately.

If Congress decides to play politics and block him at every turn, he has no problem going directly to make his case to the people and let them know the reasoning behind his decisions, but in the end...they ARE decisions the President will have to make, so we better be sure that the person we put in there will be a true leader, not just someone that stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
Wow Jill, I see that is a site which is widely used by average people, and not flooded with ron paul supporters at all.


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