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Clinton talks endorsement, E-word

Posted: Friday, December 14, 2007 2:48 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ’s Athena Jones
JOHNSTON, Iowa -- Clinton spent half of a news conference today announcing the endorsement of Iowa U.S. Rep. Leonard Boswell (D), then took questions on the Obama drug use dust-up, her electability, her decision to compete in Iowa and how she’s handling the concerns her husband has reportedly expressed about her campaign.

Clinton was asked several times what she meant by comments made during her Iowa Public Television interview that there would be no surprises in a Hillary Clinton campaign. Was she referring to Obama?

 "No, it was directed at me," she said. "I think, as many people have said, I’ve read this quote from a lot of my supporters. I’m a known quantity. I am tested and vetted, but what’s most important in this campaign is who will be the best president. That’s my primary case to the people in Iowa and across America. We don’t know what’s going to happen in the future, and we need a president who is ready on Day One for anything.”

She did not answer a question about whether Obama’s drug use could hurt his electability, choosing instead to reiterate that Shaheen’s comments were not authorized or condoned and that she had apologized to the Illinois senator. Clinton said she had never done drugs and declined to expand on that any further, saying she had answered the question many times before. She also declined to make any pledge not to air negative ads unless that pledge was signed by all the Democratic candidates and argued that drawing distinctions was a legitimate thing to do.

She did not take the opportunity, as she was asked, to say that a candidate’s indiscretions during his teenage years should not be an issue in the campaign.

“It’s certainly not an issue in my campaign, and I said that very clearly to Sen. Obama,” she said.

When asked whether she had ever second-guessed her decision to campaign in Iowa, Clinton said no.

"No, you know, I guess I’ve been in enough campaigns over a lot of years to know that there is no predictability, and there is certainly no inevitability," she said. "You have to get out and work for every single vote. That’s what I have always done. I don’t know any other way to do it."

She went on to play up her planned 99-county Iowa blitz. When asked how she was responding to her husband’s concerns about her campaign, she seemed bemused.

 “"I don’t know what you’re talking about with these concerns," Clinton said. "You know, I really don’t, and I understand that there’ve been some stories, but as I said in the interview earlier, I called my campaign, and I said, ‘Are we having a shake-up? I don’t know anything about it.’

"So I’m very happy with the team I have. The team here in Iowa is superb; it is doing such a great job across the board, so we’re just going to get up every day and work hard. That’s the only way that I know how to run a campaign, and I believe that making change requires hard work."

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Kaye Miller, WA: Running a campaign is a lot different than managing an administration.
These kinds of posts just crack me up:
"Even die-hard Hillary fans are being turned off by Mark Penn and his antics."
Eric, NY, NY (Sent Friday, December 14, 2007 3:44 PM)"

We are, are we?
I just L.M.F.A.O. at idiots like you.

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Well, we are certainly happy that you are entertained. It is all about you I guess.

We can expect that there will always be fanatics out there that don't have any reasoning skills.
'...the endorsement of Iowa U.S. Rep. Leonard Boswell (D),....'

Isn't that like booking a suite on the Titanic AFTER it hits that iceberg ?
What did they promise you, Lennie ?

FYI:
The 'E worrd' is electable...
If Hillary loses Iowa, does that make her electable ?
If she loses badly in Iowa, that will push down her vote in NH and SC

Watch the national polls change if that happens !!

Electable Hillary ?
Maybe not...
Bee: Not sure why you get all riled up about the primary - you aren't even a Democrat.
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Van,

Common, why didn't you include all the polls number? As usual, you are so one sided. Post the entire latest polls not only the one that is favorable to Billary Clinton.

What about the new Concord poll in NH ...lol... Your candidate is toast.
Wonder when if a candidate admitted to doing a hit of E now and again if anyone would care? What about crystal meth?

Hillary obviously isn’t thinking this whole thing through. You see, we all know that that corrupt witch is the Karl Rove of the democratic party. Hillary says that we shouldn’t put Obama up against the GOP because he hasn’t been vetted. Actually, he HAS been thoroughly vetted – by Hillary Clinton’s sleazy little minions.

If anything, what is absolutely clear from the ridiculous indiscriminate spray of attacks that she has subjected the Obama campaign to over the last several months, is that they don’t have ANYTHING on Obama besides what’s already in the public realm. When you dig up something a guy wrote in kindergarten to try to paint him as overly ambitious. You have nothing. If all they had to work with was teenage drug use that he already wrote about, you have nothing.

Our current republican president and the previous democratic president have BOTH used drugs in their youth as well, so obviously that’s not a disqualifier for becoming president.

Hillary will try every sleazy trick on him. It’s all in how Obama handles it, which, up to this point, he’s doing very well. If he can make it through to cinch the nomination, we’ll know he’s tough enough. If he can stand up to OUR Karl Rove, he can stand up to the GOP’s version.

Obama 2008
Oh my God, are we now comparing her to Bush? Give it a rest! Do you know everything your boss, co-workers or your kids do and say at any given moment? No you don’t. Hell, while we’re at it, let’s blame her for the bad weather too.  How old are we?  Maybe its time to grow up....... Stay focused people.
BIGOLDTEXAN wrote:
Somebody needs to ask that racist Goldwater Girl Hillary: "We know your husband did drugs - even though he didn't inhale. Did he ever share them with or sell them to anybody?  
Will K. (Sent Friday, December 14, 2007 3:28 PM)


What Bill said was that he did drugs twice and didn`t inhale.
My question is than why twice if you didn`t inhale.

Lair....Lair....Lair Pants on firer!

If you do drugs twice I guess the first time was good for you.
BIGOLDTEXAN   how old are you?
Poll lesson for the day:
Check poll org against poll org, not poll against poll. And be VERY careful depending on state polls for your emotional lift on any given day.
Jan

Actually the poll lesson of the day is not to look at the raw numbers but the trends (the + and - from polls done by the same pollster).  If you look at the polls from this vantage point you will see an uptrend in Senator Obama's numbers and a down trend in Senator Clinton's numbers.  Want proof look at realclearpolitics graph lines for the early voting states, notice the lines on the graph showing a sharp downward turn in Senator Clinton's numbers and a sharp upward turn in Senator Clinton's?  This is what the media when they speak of momentum.
And, when the margin of error is +/- 4.5 %, do Obama supporters actually even know what that means?
(Just wondering.  You all suddenly seem VERY excited about POLLS -- haha)
Jan, Nashua, NH (Sent Friday, December 14, 2007 4:59 PM)
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We're going to love polls even more when the first poll that counts, on January 3rd in Iowa, has him 15 points over Hillary...
To Susan, Tampa, Florida:

Hillary talks about being ready on day one because among of those who are running, on both sides mind you, she is the only one who, for eight years working side by side with her husband, knows the workings of the White House in and out. For you attempt to dismiss her as just a First Lady is both inaccurate and shows a complete lack of knowledge on your part of the Clinton presidency.  Further, as she was actually not president, the Health Care attempt and failure falls on the shoulders of the president. He rightly pointed this out a few weeks back. So before you attempt to minimize her as someone who just had luncheons and cut ribbons to open shopping malls...you may actually want to do a bit of research so you don’t come across as ignorant as your post suggests you are.
A question for the koolaid drinkers:
If Obama can so easily go toe to toe with the Clinton machine and walk away the winner while she is left looking like a fool, how is she more electable than Obama.  How can she stand up to the republican attack machine when she crumbles if she is challenge alittle on foreign policy.
And what kind of executive is she if her staff is going off on their own and doing things like smear emails and calling up the Washington Post to trash Obama and putting plants in the audience, ect. ect.
The real candidate to beat... www.johnedwards.com... the honest candidate we can trust.
HILLARY NEEDS TO BORROW A LINE OR TWO FROM OBAMA, NO PUN INTENDED.  DOES SHE REALLY THINK BILL NEVER INHALED?  THIS WOMAN IS SCARCY. She should have apoligized about stealing the Whitehouse furniture.
Hilary is falling apart and some people fail to see why.  Hilary’s campaign was based on many sets of assumptions that turn out to be mirage.  First and foremost, Hilary’s campaign under-estimated Senator Obama; they thought that by cornering all the Democratic power establishment they will win; they fail to understand how problematic and challenges Hilary poses as a candidate and etc.

Senator Obama is a very clever politician who understands human behavior in relation to politics.  He has been attacking and wearing down Hilary without appearing to be doing so.  He skips all the baits put in his way.  Attacking a candidate like Obama will not make him to lose support; but instead, it is going to win him sympathy as underdog.  

Here is the big lesson for Hilary.  Our Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger ran against an incumbent Governor Davis and won.  Arnold never had one day of prior experience in government.  But Davis had lots of experience but he was not inspiring and likeable.  Most people do not vote with their heads but with their hearts.  Bill Clinton is a very likeable character and the society was ready to over-look the frailties of his personal life and he won re-election.  It is the same with President W. Bush.  

Senator Obama is likeable, appears genuine and authentic and exudes confidence way and above politicians with his experience.  Since he was not convicted on cocaine charges and he voluntarily shared his use of cocaine, he is going to win sympathy from the voters and the outcome is very predictable.
The Bush comparisons seem more INEVITABLE than her winning the early primaries. Mark Penn is now being compared to Karl Rove and his tactics as is the whole Hillary campaign. I feel her choice of the recurrent phrase about how she is going to work hard to be unfortunate as Bushy used that so much in his campaign in 2004 and was parodied ruthlessly on SNL for that.
Hillary really is benefitting from the writers strike, Jon Stewart, Leno, Letterman and SNL would have shiskabobed her and her staff for the stupid Kgarten, teenage drug use, and belated staff "resignations" (wink, wink)
Clinton is trying to sell herself as most electable? That's a stretch.

She consistently has negatives in the high 40s. Not mathematically impossible to win, but pretty tough.

You win general elections on two points. First is having your side more energized than the other. Second is winning among independents. Clinton isn't a good candidate for either.

She would energize Republicans more than any other Democrat, and I'll include Lyndon Larouche in that statement.

The independents thing is more a gut feeling on my part, as opposed to the above paragraph, which is political truism. Independents value trust more than members of either party - at least that's what the talking heads say. Clinton came into this campaign with questions about her integrity, and whether fairly or unfairly, those negative perceptions have only been reinforced.

In short, she's the one candidate on the Democratic side who couldn't win (okay, Kucinich makes two).

Just my two cents.
HILLARY ROCKS ! ROCK ON HILLARY..hillaryclinton.com
"a sharp upward turn in Senator Clinton's" sorry I meant to say sharp upward turn for Senator Obama.
Time.com - The Page - reporting Obama's cocaine use not limited to teen years - but into his 20s!!!
Looks like sex and drugs are part of Hillary's and Obama's campaigns.
Go Edwards!
I don't understand why people are so down on Hillary. She is flat out the most experienced among the top three. Folks don't you know the more dirt you throw the less ground you gain? You are the ones that made my mind up to support Hillary. Some women will not vote for a woman because the majority of women are petty and jealous. Only strong women suppot another women.
Time.com - The Page - reporting Obama's cocaine use not limited to teen years - but into his 20s!!!

Hate to burst your bubble Margaret but Bill, Al , and John Kerry were all smoking weed into their twenties, Bush was snorting coke into his twenties.  Doesn't seem to have bothered voters, why you?
Oh and Margaret I went to Time magazine's "the Page" and there was nothing there like you said there was.  Please direct me to the article.
If Obama can so easily go toe to toe with the Clinton machine and walk away the winner while she is left looking like a fool, how is she more electable than Obama.  How can she stand up to the republican attack machine when she crumbles if she is challenge alittle on foreign policy

-- diane

diane - Hillary can't even win in her own party's primary. She won't even come in second. Everytime she debates, she goes in hoping for a draw, but then ends up getting buried. The woman is an absolute train wreck.
Susan, Tampa, Florida

" I prefer Obama, because I so admire his courage and wisdom  and judgment in opposing the war in Iraq back in 2002. I just wish more of the media would challenge Hillary on this claim that she has the edge on experience. "

You can get amswer here
http://theleftcoaster.com/archives/011500.php
It is sad that not many people realized that the "hope" is  hopeless.
It is sad that not many people realized that the "hope" is  hopeless.
If the other candidates got the kid glove treatment from the media like Obama maybe they would be up in the polls. The media is fawning over Obama like he is the second coming. He gives a speech about change but doesn't tell you what changes. Why aren't the media pressing him on issues. He has been just as negative if not more but does it in a sneeky way. No one attacks him when he does it.
Where is the surge that you are all making a fuss about.
For more than three weeks the OHB "surge" is nothing but talk.
Give us a break. What you wish for is not happening.

HRC is the nominee.
Would somebody please explain the relationship between "Obama, Osama", and this Rezco Mafioso?
I have not seen anyone on this blog bring this up, except this smart person named "tuck from Realtyville, KS".
I have heard about Rezco and Obama before but it seemingly went away, this is a big deal and it is factual.
Not only does "Osama, Obama" have Muslim ties but he is a dopehead, inexperienced crook from Chicago.
This country cannot afford another President that is weak, crooked and inexperienced.  
I ask you all to examine what this person "Osama, Obama" is really all about and search your heart to see if you trust your America, your lives and your famililies lives with a person such as this.  If so what in his background substantiates such an important decision? Some say he is handsome, Charismatic and Charming.  He is not any of these things to me, but that really does not matter but it could be
what some folks who are followers are basing their
feelings about him on.  Please look at his qualifications and his background before you make such
an important decision as to support him for President of our America.
GOOD MORNING LADIES AND GENTELMEN. YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS ? IT'S CLINTONTIME... hillaryclinton.com
HILLARY CONTINUES TO ROCK ! ROCK ON HILLARY...........hillaryclinton.com
Lol, "nohope."

So the Clinton campaign is down to a message of "hope is hopeless," delivered by someone who not only doesn't want to use his or her name, but who goes by "nohope?"

Speaking of hiding behind false identities, anyone else catch the story about Blue Hampshire? Its a small but influential blog of New Hampshire progressive activists and Democratic Party insiders. They welcome campaign staffers, but ask that they indicate their status when registering.

Blue Hampshire just days ago kicked out four registered members. The four failed to note their positions in the Clinton campaign when they registered.

The website grew suspicious at what seemed like "coordinated" activities by the four. Then noticed the four had registered within minutes of one another. Then, Blue Hampshire was able to track the IP address for all four back to a single Clinton campaign computer.

The Clinton campaign is taking this latest embarrassment seriously. According to the Blue Hampshire website, the Clinton state chair in New Hampshire said these were the actions of "overzealous" supporters acting outside the campaign.

Funny in that the line is getting so old. "Oh, he's just the national co-chair, but obviously acting outside the campaign." Also, kind of makes you wonder who we have with us here on First Read.

Think back to all those times we've seen "BillC" and "Chelsea" promote the Clinton campaign website. Hmmm. Probably not Bill and Chelsea, but then it only shows this propensity to use false identities. In fact, false identities are flaunted in our faces.
Now admittedly Dick Morris and Hillary Clinton have little love for each other but I was amused by his article with Eileen McGann written for Real Clear Polics today.  Here is an excerpt:

By stressing experience, Hillary is basing her campaign on a fraud. Like her Senate race, which was premised on the obvious lie that she wanted to be a New Yorker, her presidential race is rooted in the fabrication that she was the principal actress in her husband's presidency.

In fact, she was an observer (a close-up one, to be sure); at most a kibitzer, sending in advice from time to time but surely not a principal.

Yes, she had actual line responsibility, in the first two years of his presidency - a time of dismal failure. But her role from late 1995 to 1997 was scarcely more than a traditional first lady's: She toured the country, wrote books, cut ribbons and traveled the world.

Even her return to a role of power - when the Lewinsky scandal all but closed down the Clinton presidency at the start of 1998 - was only in the realm of damage control, not as a formulator of public policy. Then, the final year of Bill's tenure saw her absorbed in her own Senate campaign, no longer much interested in 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., except as a springboard.

To me this says what I actually believe to be the truth about Hillary's alleged preparedness to be president.  This illusion of supreme readiness could do a great disservice to the voting public but I feel that most remember enough of the truth not to be fooled by this chicanery.
Obama '08
Here we go again >>>>>> hillaryclinton.com
Help Unite The Republican Party......Nomnate Hillary Clinton "08"
The white House and Obama o.k don't forget jesse jackson and al sharpton to his cabinet. Oprah endorsing him come on it's a black thing. Black people should celebrate.  if you are in prison their is HOPE for a new trial or Pardon by Obama.Whoever things they know Obama don't be dissappointed you thought you new George Bush who ran as a uniter not a divider. The media easy to analyze and critisize a white person but scared to analye and critisize a Black person they don't wonna be the next DON IMUS or labelled racist.
Clinton said "We don’t know what’s going to happen in the future, and we need a president who is ready on Day One for anything.” Well DOH!!!! Would'nt even you or me be ready for anything on day 1. Such another stupid statement from a campaign in a Freefall. I missed a lot yesterday, but I've been reading this morning. 1st of all, Bee, i'd bet the farm there is plenty of Carrie's all over Iowa.For those who say Barack's race will somehow keep him from winning, i'd just havta say, tell that to heartland of America, which has seen him alot this year. Evidently his race is'nt playing very badly on their minds to have him polling 1st nowadays. Or to the people of New Hampshire, who have him polling 1st there Now.The times i've seen Barack, i've noticed in the background, lot's of Caucasion's seem to be taking the time out of their busy schedules to come & listen to him. So for all of you that bring Race into this campaign, "You're a Racist from the getgo" & your vote was'nt ever going to be for Barack.


"Being accused of lying tends to piss me off.  Honest people tend to not like being accused of being dishonest.
Carrie, Eastern Iowa (Sent Friday, December 14, 2007 2:27 PM

Carrie , i read all the comment's on here in full & this week you seem to be on a Rampage. You want barack to come to you personally & explain his PAST drug use, even tho, by your comment's all week, No answer he can give, will Ever convince you to vote for him. You claim to be for Biden, yet You personally jump into Hail the Queen at every oppurtunity. If you are such an ardent Biden supporter, why not continuosly have your comment's  as to why we should vote for him. I like Biden also, Just not for POTUS. Barack answered the Past drug use question when bringing it out in the open, I'd suggest you read his book for further answer's (which from what i can tell, is'nt gonna Convince you either). Back to your comment i copied & pasted, I'd say  Barack is much like you in that regard, as Lies were being told upon his Character & he has responded accordingly. You may not like his response, but he responded, quite well as far as i'm concerned, & by other's who have moved on about this.


I've seen other's in the past post that they're like me & want to see an end to the Politics of Personal Destruction. That means, No more Bush's & No more Clinton's calling the shots of the American people!!!



" DELUSIONAL THINKING BY COMMON SENSE AMERICAN'S IS OVER "
If HRC wanted a "clean" campaign, she would have stated to her top advisers, no character assasination.  Do you really think HRC didn't know about Bill Shaheen trying to smear attack Obama?  In my heart, she knew.  It was all a strategy to bring the issue out and then make herself look "above it all" by denouncing Mr. Shaheen.  Total calculation.  Ugh.  Calculation is a thing of the past.
Below is what the Blue Hampshire website posted about the episode I mentioned. I'm offerng this follow-up because I noticed it was actually more than four registrations they received from the same Clinton campaign computer.

Also, that last userID sounded familiar. "kmeisje." Didn't we have someone here using that name?

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Recently, we admins noticed this comment thread on a recommended diary, and the oddities it posed made us look a little deeper than we normally would.
As the comment thread revealed, users pinballwizard, elf, shley24, MTAY all registered in succession to recommend the diary. A further look by us revealed that:

* they had registered within minutes of each other, including another user a bit later, janbaby, who  was not among the recommenders,
* the same IP address was used by all of them, and is registered to the Clinton campaign,
* two other recommenders, blues and kmeisje, also registered from the same IP address.

To be clear, and to reiterate what's stated in our Getting Started page: paid campaign staff are welcome in this community, but are asked to disclose their affiliation to a campaign, either through their signature line, a disclosure statement on a diary, or even in the choosing of a username. The fact that all the users mentioned above came from a Clinton campaign IP, but did not register with campaign email addresses, and avoided making comments or diaries, instead only recommending pro-Clinton diaries, strikes us as gaming the system and a form of "recommend astroturf."  As a result, we have banned those accounts, and will do so again for undisclosed paid staffers of any campaign if need be.

We have spoken with Kathleen Strand, who assured us that this was not an orchestrated effort but the product of over-eager staffers and volunteers, done without her awareness, and that it will not be repeated.  We appreciate her responsiveness and believe that this may indeed be a misunderstanding of low-level staffers of the norms of the site.
Crunch time is upon us and people are beginning to realize Hillarys' managerial skills are suspect in so far as she cannot even control her campaign staff or provide them direction. While this is obvious, people are also beginning to see past the Clinton rhetoric that she supports mainstream America and the working class. If this were so, why does more than 70% of her campaign money come from corporate America and special interest? Are people dumb enough to believe Hillary has not sold her soul in order to make history and provide Bill a third term and a new intern staff? I believe rational people can see through the Clinton smoke screen and are smarter than media pundits believe...Edwards is the rational choice
It is most amusing to read complaints about my previous post pointing out that Hillary was First Lady, not President. People wrote that she was almost a co-president - yet, on the one major official duty she was charged with fixing - health care - she failed totally. But these apologists then say that that wasn't HER fault as Bill was the president, not Hillary! Come on! What pathetic reasoning! I have read other comments on this First Read forum that Abraham Lincoln served only one term in Congress - two years - before becoming president, in addition to his time in the Illinois State Legislature. All of the Democrats running have more experience than Lincoln had when he ran in 1860. But it is the wisdom and judgment and honesty of a person that is really important. On all of those fronts, Hillary is woefully lacking. She sided with George Bush on the two major foreign policy issues - Iraq and Iran. As I stated before, she was a total flop in trying to remedy health care. Her current campaign is a complete mess - kindergarten-gate, Shaheen and Penn, etc. Also, if she is so proud of her role in the White House, why are she and Bill stonewalling on disclosing all of the records of those years? We need a healer - not a polarizer - as the next president. Obama is going to be that person.
in as little as 20 days we will all know how this race is shaping up. we will know if hillary is on a downward turn or remaining steady. we will find out if john gains some momentum so he can garnish the much needed donations to acquire matching funds so he can compete at the same level as hillary and obama, we will see if obama truly has the momentum that the polls indicate. we will see if richardson gains enough ground to stay in the race. i think dodd, kucinich and biden will be done. i don't like that because i think biden is a fantastic candidate to be in the race. i would like to see him be able to go deep in this race. if he would accept it, he would make a really good v.p. and advisor.

no matter whoever wins the democratic nomination i will support. that includes hillary. i just think that the democratic candidates are a cut above any gop candidate.
Rick:

I frequently post about Biden, which you would know if you really did read all the posts here as you claim you do.  

I didn't say that I expect Obama to personally apologize to me.  I said that he opened the door to questions about his drug use, and he is now obliged to answer those questions.  I would say the same thing about any other candidate who admitted to using cocaine.  

If Obama gets the nomination, I will happily vote for him.  I won't caucus for him, however, because I think there are better candidates than him.  I prefer Biden to all of the other potential nominees.  


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