I am always amazed when those good Christians advocate war.  I am bordering on agnostic, but I think the Jesus what ever advocated Love and Compasion. It puts a whole new face on "Jesus love me more." I mean if Jesus didn't take up the sword in the highly agitated state in the early first century...

Also good point on calling it a religious degree when only one religion is studied.

Al-Queda did not attack us because we are a christian nation, we were attacked because of our governments support for despotic regimes in the middle east. Is Huckabee now defining this war as a crusade?
God must want us to have more oil.
All the presidents were brought up as christians but not all presidents felt the need to pontificate on policy using their religion.
The idea that a president must 'DISPLAY' their religion to the electorate is a modern construct brought about by the need of the repubs to garner and hold onto the evangelical base of voters.
Sounds like pandering to me.
Huckabee will fall on his own sword if he continues to play this game.
Are you voting for this man because he professes the same religious beliefs as you, if so then you are no different than the taliban, communists, and fascists, true believers who wanted everyone to believe the same thing. There is a fine line between ecstatic vision and heresy, are we crossing that line? Is Huckabee the 'BETTER CHRISTIAN',
how about just 'THE BETTER CANDIDATE' these are not the same things, vote for a good person who will not devide us as believers and non-believers, vote for the person who see us all as americans.

If these comments are being vetted for anti-CBN stuff and I am almost certain they will be, after Pat Robertson's endorsement of Guiliani; I do not think this post will be seen. We pray and believe that the Lord is sovereign in this situation and will wipe out and expose ungodliness. (I was converted to Christianity in a foreign land and thank God we learned to pray for answers.)

I have an extensive education and I find it difficult to understand how a college degree is not regarded as a degree? Huckabee had a college degree and had earned credits towards his masters. The way theological degrees are granted can also vary. The school can have its selection of courses to grant credits towards a  bachelor's degree.  There is nothing to suggest that he does not have a theology degree or what he claims...

A Doctor of theology is not what Huckabee claimed to have. He said he has a degree in theology. Such a degree is a generally a 3 or 4 year degree. He did not lie and I am amazed at the cheap and untrue statements made about this man's qualifications. Thank God, people have begun to analyze what is dished out to them as news. I would have credited Matt Drudge with better sense than to link to this article that is in error!

Hey this is what Mitt Romney belives!

Mormons are a Cult

Mormons believe Blacks are Cursed people they are the decedent of Cain.

Bringham Young stated the following: "For instance, the descendants of Cain cannot cast off their skin of blackness, at once, and immediately, although every soul of them should repent, obey the Gospel, and do right from this day forward. . . . Cain and his posterity must wear the mark, which God put upon them; and his white friends may wash the race of Cain with fuller’s soap every day, they cannot wash away God’s mark; The Lamanites, through transgression, became a loathsome, ignorant and filthy people, and were cursed with a skin of darkness … yet, they have the promise, if they will believe, and work righteousness, that not many generations shall pass away before they shall become a white and delightsome people; but it will take some time to accomplish this at best. Source: The Latter-Day Saints Millennial Star, vol. 14, p. 418

1848, Brigham Young, as President of the Mormon Church, first preached the "Curse of Cain Doctrine". He said that Negroes, whom he considered to be children of Cain (son of Adam and killer of Abel) had the "mark of Cain" (black skin and kinky hair and flat nose) and they could not hold the priesthood until Abel was resurrected, had children, and all of Abel's children were given the opportunity to receive the priesthood first, then the Curse of Cain would be taken off his posterity (Negroes) and they would have the priesthood like everybody else. Brigham Young started the "priesthood-ban" in 1848, banning all Negroes, and even white men with Negro ancestry, from the two orders of priesthood, and banning all Negroes from the House of the Lord (the Mormon Temple). Mormon Church leaders
Now you are probaly asking yourself well back in those day's everyone was a racist, the blacks where not able to hold the priesthood until 1968 and many LDS faithful still believe in the curse of cain.

Why Mormons Are Not Christian.
and they are a Cult!

First: Mormons do not follow or believe in the historic Jesus Christ of the Bible, but rather in a difference Jesus. This is why most Biblical Christians emphatically insist that Mormons are not Christians. Let me explain.

The god of the Mormons is not the God of the Bible. To the Mormons, Jesus is the firstborn son of an exalted "man" who became the god of this world. The man-god of Mormonism was made the god of this world because of his good works on another planet somewhere out in the universe. He "earned" godhood, and was thus appointed by a counsel of gods in the heavens to his high position as the god of planet Earth. The Mormon god of this world was a man, like all men, who became a god. This is what the celestial marriage and the temple vows are all about. LDS men, by doing their temple work, are striving for exaltation by which they, too, shall one day become gods. Their wives will be the mother goddesses of "their" world and with their husband will produce the population of their world. This is the Mormon doctrine of "eternal progression."

Note the following quote from the Mormon Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, page 123, made by the LDS Apostle Orson Hyde:

"Remember that God, our heavenly Father, was perhaps once a child, a mortal like we ourselves, and rose step by step in the scale of progress, in the school of advancement; has moved forward and overcome, until He has arrived at the point were He is."

Lorenzo Snow, late President of the Mormon church, made this statement in the second verse of his famous poem entitled, "Man's Destiny":

"As Abra'm, Isaac, Jacob, too, babes, then men--to gods they grew. As man now is, our God once was; As now God is, so man may be,-- Which doth unfold man's destiny. . ."

The God of the Bible is not an exalted man. The God of the Bible is omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient. The Bible says He is the only God and there are no other Gods. He had no beginning or end and he is a spirit being and never was a man.

Note the clear teaching of the Bible as to who the real God is:

Numbers 23:19, "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?"

Psalms 102:26-27, "They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed: But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end."

Isaiah 43:10-11, "Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour."

Isaiah 44:6, "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God."

Isaiah 44:8, "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

Isaiah 45:21-22, "Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else."

Jeremiah 23:24, "Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD."

Malachi 3:6, "For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed."

John 1:16-18, "And of his fullness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."

John 4:24, "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

Romans 1:22, "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things."

Colossians 1:15, "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:"

1 Timothy 1:17, "Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen."

1 Timothy 6:16, "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."

Clearly, Mormonism's god is not the God of Christianity who is the God revealed to us in the Bible. The Mormon god is a god formed from the imaginations of Joseph Smith, and in truth is a false, non-existent god or idol.

Second: The Jesus Christ of Mormonism is not the Jesus Christ of the Bible.

The Mormon Jesus is the son of this man-god. The Mormon Jesus is the brother of Lucifer, and according to LDS teaching, he married several of the Marys of the New Testament. He is not, to the LDS church, "God incarnate" as the Bible plainly states. Clearly, the Mormon god and Jesus are not the true

Does Hope, AK produce pathological liars or what?

Creationism does support cavemen and dinosaurs.  Mike from AR displays his own ignorance in his post about Huck's beliefs.  Creationism, young earth theory, and the global Flood of Genesis are at least as compatible with the geological records as are the evolutionary models.

1) Scientific research of the physical history of the Earth is less than 200 years old.  That is a very narrow window of time in which to draw hard and fast conclusions about the way things have always been.

2) Where are the evolutionary links?  The fossil record is horribly poor when it comes to all those "in-between" species that turned reptiles into birds, etc.  Accepting that these changes occurred requires faith, just like Creationism requires faith.

3) The Flood could have expedited a lot of things, like the extinction of the dinosaurs and the forming of the Grand Canyon.  When Mt. St. Helens erupted in 1980, it carved a canyon about 150 feet deep very quickly, leaving a product most geologists would have guessed took at least thousands of years. (http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=research&action=index&page=researchp_sa_r04)

Also, there have been several cases of mining equipment from the 1800's being recovered and found to have mineralized or fossilized to a great extent in just a few decades.  The point is that sometimes things don't take as long as uniformitarianism (which is the fundamental premise for all forms of nuclear dating methods and much of evolutionary theory) would have you believe.

There is a scientific Creationism.  And there are a lot of scientists who support it.  My point is, that true God-fearing religion is foundational to modern science and politics.  As Gary in MN said.

Nevertheless, Huckabee did lie, and he, like the rest of the candidates (except Ron Paul) are corrupt politicians, and very scary prospects for our next President.

"No one ever asks Democrats about religion or theology. None of them know much about it."

So what? In a saner world, religion would play no role at all in presidential politics. The fact that so many Americans have decided that they cannot vote for someone  who does not share their particular brand of belief is depressing and dangerous.

Pat in Prescott: Romney does not get respect because Jesus Christ is THE High Priest of the Melchizedek Priesthood (Heb 5:6) and for anyone else to claim that role sounds really bizarre.

" Not being an Am one has to wonder just what has one wrong in Am society that you end up with such a bunch of nutjobs that close to the presidency... "


Because the right wing in this country is ####ing crazy! (Just read a couple of these posts.)

It's to the point where the right wing doesn't give a damn about the country, or they wouldn't have voted for that little freak show in the Wh right now. The right wing wants to evangilize the country and punish the left, and that's all. They'd send everybody to Christian boot camp if they could, and the really sorry part is how they talk "love" and spew hate - most of them wouldn't make a pimple on a real Christian's arse.

Huckabee is no more a "man of God" than Mitt Romney.  Mitt Romney's service is various LDS positions including missionary, bishop (similar to a pastor), and stake president (over several congregations) shows his character and committment to serve his fellow man (he also did all of this voluntarilly without being paid while simulteneously persueing his professional career).

Mitt doesn't wear his church service on his sleeve like Huckabee does though or bring his particular faith into the debate like Huckabee.  Mitt is a man of good character that will respect others beliefs and will promote good values that all good people share without promoting any one particular religion.

Listen, I know who the republican presidential candidate should be:  GOD!  

I'm serious.  They could have an empty podium.  It would be a test of faith.  Do you BELIEVE in God will be the defining question of the GOP primary (not that it isn't already).

Who could vote against GOD on the ballot?  That's atheism.  

The MSM would fall all over themselves about the "religious values" of the party that actually nominated GOD.

Another plus side:  no drunk driving convictions, no secret contracts with mass murderers, no girlfriend shag-pads, no pardoned rapists -- and no ugly liberal tolerance to back away from.  This is GOD!!!  The guy to nuked Gommorah, fer Chrisakes!

You'd need interpreters, of course.  Somebody to articulate what the big guy in the empty chair in the oval office is actually saying.  Say -- Dick Cheney.

I'm telling you -- watch out.  This could really work.

From my understanding Huckabee lied about having a degree in theology...while it is true he has a B.A., he dropped out of seminary without getting a degree in theology. Imagine, a man of the cloth lying...again!

I think Huckabee is going to be the Republican nominee. Now, who can the Democrats going to run to beat him? The truth is, swing voters will support Huck over Obama and Hillary because they find him more likeable. Edwards, on the other hand is the Huckabee antidote. Edwards hasn't put a foot wrong in the primary. In the general he will cut Huckabee down to size, all the time with a smile on his face. Edwards is smart, he's mean, he's tenacious and he's slick enough to out-Southern Huck. Nobody likes a trial lawyer until you need one, and America needs a good lawyer NOW. I support Edwards in the primary.

I have a bachelor's degree in political science; however, I took a significant number of post-graduate courses in statistics.  Does that mean I can claim to have a degree in statistics?  

A bachelor's degree in religion is pretty far from a degree in theology, and although the old Huckster has post-graduate theological education, he doesn't have a theological degree.

Sounds to me like, say, a President arguing that he "didn't have sex with that woman."  I think I've heard that somewhere before...

Irony:  Islamofascism is a term coined by Christopher Hitchens - an avowed atheist.

Laugh if you wanna, but Huckleberry's gonna be the nominee and very possibly the Prez. He's the perfect choice: another empty suit, dumber, less curious, holier, even more cowardly than the Chimp. He only needs a puppet-master up to the task...
How about Jeb?
Yup...

What Democrats know about religion is that the White House and the Church MUST be kept apart.  We don't need Jesus fascists running our country.  We have tried that with George the Turd.  It has been a total failure.  You get a religious wack like Bush in, or like Romney, or like Huck, and you get someone who is too stupid to know anything, and absolutely certain that he is right.

The combination of TOTAL STUPIDITY and TOTAL CERTAINTY has been a TOTAL DISASTER.

We DO NOT want another Christian fascist running the government to bring on the endtime right away.  Terrible terrible terrible idea.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

I see that some dolt has confused National Socialism with Socialism.  Anyone, ANYONE who has read history knows that they are not the same.  National Socialism is a right-wing, fascist party.  Many of the Repukeliscum running this year would feel right at home in it, provided we allow a switch of illegal alien for Jew.  After that, we get a fine, tight alignment between the Repukeliscum Party and the National Socialist Party.

Gary,

George Washington nor Abe Lincoln ran their presidency based on religion in the way that Huckabee would.  I think many of us do not mind, in fact would even prefer, our President to believe in God.  However the President's job is not to put his morality into laws, or wage holy wars (like huckabee wants to do).  We are not a theocracy.  Washington believed in separation of church and state, as have many other Presidents who also believed in God.  

As for JFK, he is the single most overrated President in our history.  A vast majority of those who have studied Presidents will agree with that claim.  Before he was assassinated there were many, many people unhappy with him.  Then he gets assassinated and no one likes to talk bad about him because they see it as disrespectful.  Think of JFK's Presidency, he did hardly anything well.  He mishandled the Cuban missle   crisis in a very bad way until the very end and almost had us in a nuclear war...do you remember the bay of pigs?

He was a horrible president.

A country cannot run [or be based upon] mythical dogma.  It is sure to be challenged by other countries that are run on their brand of mythical dogma.  Absent dogmas, countries can go to war for more conventional things, like oil, property or corporate customer bases.  There should be absolute and unconditional separation of the state and religion [any religion].  Way to go Rufus!

Abe Lincoln was an atheist and killed more Americans than any other President.  You will have a hard time making a case that Washington was religous, much less a Christian.  Don't diefy the Presidency, it is not worthy.

I am not a supporter of Gov./Rev./Mr. Huckabee.  I am a supporter of Dr./Congressman/Mr. Ron Paul.  Some of the criticisms leveled at Mr. Huckabee are accurate based what I know having lived in Arkansas - to the extent that one wishes to trust the press on any candidate.  However, this "thing" about his having claimed to have but not actually having a theology degree is actually a tempest in a teapot stored in a rusting truck, in the molding attic of an old house sinking into an abyss.  In medieval universities one studied law, medicine, philosophy or theology.  Religion falls exclusively in the domain of theology.  Huckabee's major was religion in the historical domain of theology.  Therefore, he does have a degree within the domain theology with a major in religion.  There are, from my perspective, some real and compelling criticisms of Mr. Huckabee; however, this conjured up one thereof is neither real nor compelling.

Can't we just leave the religion out of it and stick to the issues? If a candidate's belief system shows  through in his policy notions, I would hope the American people are smart enough and well educated enough to figure it out, to at least pay enough attention and take the time it deserves to learn. This is serious business, folks. If a guy's foreighn policy or climate policy seems to indicate that the candidate thinks the world is 6000 years old, it will show through, if we pay enough attention. I don't care who worships what or whom of even if. Their knowledge concernining the rest of the world and how best to interact with it, and a deep appreciation for what the American people need and want, and the will and skill to make it happen are what count.

""Sorry, "religion" has not killed more people than any other word in history.""

Sorry Mr. Davis, but people were being killed in the name of God (whatever that name might have been) thousands of years before there were any of the modern theories of government.  Just think of all the wars against Philistines, Hittites, Egyptians, etc. written about in the old testament to name a few

Never the less, although most of our leaders have probably been men of faith, not many of them have worn their religion on their sleeves like todays would be leaders seem to do.  There is no religious test to be found within our constitution, and so it should be.  A persons church, or apparent lack of,  cannot be a criteria for election to office in a free society.  Religion has always been dangerous to society.  What we need for a president is a person with strong spititual understanding and a strngth to stand up to those in power who would be our destroyers from within.  By the way, there is one republican candidate out there who fits the bill. so join the revolution.

It sounds like Gov. Huckabee is giving himself extra credit, here.  He admittedly didn't finish his studies to their completion, but as a successful pastor of the largest Baptist church in his part of Arkansas, he feels like that gives him the ability to speak to the threat of Islamofascism, by virtue of his familirity with Biblical Theology.
When you consider the clue-less GWB has called Islam a religion of 'peace', unconvincingly several times, Huckabee is attempting to show he's more cognizant of the nature of the challenge America faces.  OK many of us now feel better knowing that he, as a potential US President, knows this.
What I have a problem with is that his record as Arkansas Governor belies his claim to be a 'limited power, small government Conservative' - his record proves otherwise.  
Also, I'm not sure Huckabee understands that America's mercantilism (troops & military following our economic interersts) is causing huge problems for us, worldwide.  Most of the GOP candidates miss this nuance.
So truth in labeling is an issue.  Unfortunately most evanglicals (I'm one) are so sick of social liberals being elevated -"Rudy Mc Ronmey"-to prominence in the GOP that they're running in droves to Mssr. Huckabee, because like a skilled Pastor / Orator, he knows how to 'speak our language'.  Uh - OH the sound I hear is 50 + million evanglicals about to make a mistake !  If they were consistent, they'd seriously consider Ron Paul, instead. He's the one man who's consistently called government back to it's Constutional limits - with matchless integrity.  He has been faithfully married to the same woman for 50 years.  If he's been faithful in the 'little things' he'll be faithful in the 'greater things', is the Principle here.
Don't get fooled by Huckabee or Rudy Mc Romney, either.

Interesting how in all his studies of religion, Huck seems to have missed a few insignificant verses. Things like "Thou shalt not kill," "Love your enemies", "Turn the other cheek," and "Live at peace with all men".  Tell, me how does this hypocrite justify his support of a war of aggression based upon lies and greed?

If he has all that wonderful clothing and furniture, where did he get it on a "preachers" salary? And I also wonder if the rumor is true that he also has a 7000 sq. foot home?  The Lord is mighty good to the Huckster.

Huckabee is a tax hiking, illegal immigrant amnesty granting, big government spender that releases convicted felons to convict more crimes.

Everything out of his mouth is trash. I would sooner trust anything Ted Haggard says than Huckabee.

I am amazed at how tripped up you all get on semantics and how you exaggerate so many things.  Please get a life.  There is no difference between a degree in theology and a degree in biblical studies.  How anyone can confuse any of these terms with a seminary masters or doctorate shows your ignorance.  This generally happens with folks who think they know christianity and the Bible but don't really know what they are taling about.  Let me help you....from dictionary.com's definition of theology:

1. the field of study and analysis that treats of God and of God's attributes and relations to the universe; study of divine things or religious truth; divinity.  
2. a particular form, system, branch, or course of this study.  

Governor Huckabee does have a theology degree and is more than adequate to talk about the things of God, more qualified than any of the other candidates.  

Most of the posts here remind me why liberals shouldn't run our country.  Not one of you have anything helpful or constructive to say.  Just a bunch of hateful rhetoric.  Thank God for conservatives and Republicans.  

Anyone who uses the phrase 'Islamofascism' should automatically be disqualified for the presidency based on ignorance (although the incumbent may have lowered the bar so much...).

Islamism is diffuse, Puritanical and globalist. Fascism is centralized, corporate and nationalist. No serious person would equate the two.

I am not a "Huckelberry Hound" guy but if I remember correctly, one hero of the left, Albert Gore, Jr.'s claim to fame was that he flunked out of divinity school. No one had a problem with that and he was championed as the smart guy. Go figure.

To the folks who complain wars are started over religion- Hitler was a non drinking vegitarian- so lighten up, have a beer and a sausage.

Religion has its body count for sure, but government (especially centralized government) has killed more people, both directly and indirectly than any other thing.

This is why the Dem's pray for a Huckabee nomination. They are doing their best to hold off the dogs hoping the Huckster gets the Republican nod.

http://drudgereport.com/flashhu.htm

I disagree with people who say that religion shouldn't be discussed in a political campaign.  I think it is important to know that a candidate has short-circuited rational thought in favor of blind faith.  You would want to know about that in the case of a personal tax accountant and you should want to know about that in the case of a national President.  

We see the consequences of not applying the Rationality Test to our national leaders in how we ended up in Iraq.  We're not in Iraq because the 9-11 terrorists came from there or because the car bombers are going to build a dirty bomb and attack America if we leave.  We're in Iraq because Bush is an evangelical christian who believes every word of the Bible is literally true, and the Bible says that Israel must rule all the way from Egypt to the Euphrates (ie, Iraq), that the King of Babylon (ie, Saddam) is the Anti-Christ, and Psalm 137 even has a special blessing for those who smash the head of a Babylonian (ie, Iraqi) child against a wall.

We'd better hope that Huckabee is a fraud, because if he's a genuine True Believer and gets anywhere near the nuclear button -- well, the word 'Armageddon' comes from the Bible and in Ezekiel 38 God declares, "I will rain fire upon the coastlands" of those nations which attack Israel, and that should tell you all you need to know about how itchy his finger would be in triggering the Second Coming.

Despite the genocide of one million innocent Iraqis, the media has repeatedly asked Ron Paul if he's a 'dangerous nutball' for wanting to pull out.  In a sane world, someone would ask if Mike Huckabee was a 'dangerous nutball' for embracing religious scripture that sees the end of human history in a conflagration that involves the death of half the human race.  And if you think I'm making that up, just open a Bible to the end, and read what it says in the Book of Revelation . . . and fear for the survival of the human species.    

"I guess I'm not feeling your anti-religion, humanistic based approach to the office of the President. "

Since you had to add an immature insult to the end of your comment against my post, your must believe that reason is not enough on its own to prove your objection and presumably faith-based epithets are required as well. Your example therefore supports my case and not yours in the end.  

FYI everyone, Darwin is filled with errors, starting with the fossil record, and the "old age" of the Earth rest on Carbon 12 to Carbon 14 ratios that are a complete guess due to the fact that today's science measures the past by uniformatarianism.  Darwin is old science from the 1800's & doesn't hold up in today's science.  Intelligent design fits in perfectly and makes scense.  I think people are afraid of the unknown and would advise them that there is a God who loves them enough that he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for their (sin) and to grant you everlasting life if you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Merry Christmas everyone & God Bless you all!

John Alexander ---you have said what I feel thank you

Here is a link to the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.

http://www.swbts.edu/catalog/page.cfm?id=35&open=3_area

From examining the catalog and the course requirements I don't see anything in the area of Islam or any other religion being studied.

A bachelors degree in religion means he never should have been a pastor.Id like to know why he claims he is the"only guy", but yet he ignores the cold hard facts about why we are in Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Christians need to wake up, they are deceived by men claiming to be christians who arent real christians. The war was for profiteering. Thats blood money.

"Laugh if you wanna, but Huckleberry's gonna be the nominee and very possibly the Prez"


I LAUGHED when they talked about nominating Reagan; I had a little smirk when they talked about nominating the "Little Special One" - I ain't laughing now, Brother! The only one worse would be anyone else in the GOP lineup except Ron Paul.

Nope - the right wing has taught me to not laugh at them.


"I have an extensive education and I find it difficult to understand how a college degree is not regarded as a degree? "


Does your extensive experience include a degree? I place my undergrad Physics degree a bit above an undergrad degree in Theatre Arts or Communications. Another example - if you were on trial for your life would you generally want a  lawyer with a degree from Harvard, or one of those dolts from Pat Robertson U they like so much in the Justice Dept?

I'd want a lawyer more in touch with the Bill of Rights than the 10 commandments, but that's just me.

When Dave Barry has a bad outing, I often turn to these blogs for a good dose of humor. It's amazing how worked-up people can get over presidential candidates like Mike Huckabee (aka "nutjob" - did Peewee say that was the word of the day? I've wanted to scream at the repetitiveness of some) who have opinions about faith and morality. Does anyone really believe that the theory of evolution will be tossed out by executive order? Will abortions and homosexuality be outlawed by one man?!! The list could go on. I hope our collective understanding of the checks and balances of federal government has not suffered so much as to leave us with the idea that a president can actually accomplish all that you fear. Huckabee's interpretation of the Bible will not affect my life in the least as long as Congress and the Supreme Court does it's job well (they didn't in the case of Bush and his stupid war). Relax. FYI - These Christians tend to be exclusive because their leader said, "No one comes to God except through me." If he didn't consider all religions to be equal, can we fault them for believing the same?

Huck's story of "religion" and "theology" being the same thing might carry more weight if his own campaign had not admitted that he does NOT have a theology degree.

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTdmMWE3MjhjZTgyM2RhYzFmMWRiMzY2MThjZTMxZWY=

As a graduate of Notre Dame in the mid 70s,  our "Theology Dept."   was the name for  our coursework in any and all relions and religious topics

We used the term synonymously. While I have huge problems with the guy, I think in this case perhaps {like many church related schools} he was employing a synonym.

  Like many conservatives I am far more concerned with terrorism , borders and taxes.

   Apparently Huckabee is more concerned with Mormons.

The fact is, it doesn't matter if Huckabee is a Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist..whatever. The man is NOT a conservative. He led his state with high taxes, bad immigration policies, and was untrustworthy on top of it. You have to judge the candidate on issues and his or her record, not on their faith. To include or exclude someone because of religion goes against everything our country was founded on. Our forefathers would be rolling over in their graves!

People say that Huckabee is for "this or that" should just go to his web site and see for yourself.  Really, don't worry.  As long as you have a few brain cells, you'll understand where he stands on the issues.  He's for illegal immigration? He thinks all AIDS patients should be isolated?  Maybe back in the early 90's when we didn't know much about the disease but he doesn't feel that way now.  Doesn't believe in evolution?  Of course he doesn't you fools!  He is a Christian.  BUT he is FOR discussing many things in school including evolution so that kids will be able to see both sides and make up their own minds.  It blows my mind that people are saying "he wants to raise taxes, he wants to isolate AIDS patients, He is for illegal immigration.......WHERE DOES IT SAY THIS?  And as for his "Theology" degree..........He has a degree in religion.  What is Theology?  The study of religion.  He is not lying when he says he has a degree in theology.  
There are so many people that look at Mike Huckabee and instantly say things that simply aren't true.  Why?  Because many people can't think for themselves and are just sheep following the propaganda of those who just don't like the guy.  And that's okay not to like him!  Just use your own brains and find out the true facts.  Man, I have never seen or heard such crap about someone from people who don't have a clue.  www.mikehuckabee.com  

While Ron Paul Pawns and other anti-Huckabee folk are salivating over this hopeful lie of Huckabee's about this theology degree, but in the end they will discover it is only exposing their ignorance..  They (like even apparently media reporting this story) show a clear misunderstand the theological world and biblical education.  Biblical education and theology were a part of Huckabee's undergraduate degree--which he obtained with an emphasis in speech and communications as well.  Courses on bible and theology are required in every Christian college and university--as core requirements, despite one's emphasis or even major.  Then Huckabee completed roughly 50 units of his graduate degree in seminary.  In many seminaries an M.A. can be obtained by one year's training--sometimes two--or the equivalent of 50 or so units.  There are two year Master's degrees.  Then there is a three-year Master of Divinity.  A doctorate in theology can either be a D.Min (Doctorate of Ministry) or Ph.D. (Doctorate of Philosophy), depending upon the specialty--the D.Min. can also be obtained in a fairly minimal amount of time on top of a master's degree.  Bottom line, when was says one has studied theology or a degree in theology (study of God), it can mean one's major has incorporated theology (or biblical education in it)--which Huckabee's B.A. or B.S. did.  It can also mean (as some schools) that one has studied comparative religions.  It can also mean that one has studied historical or biblical theology within a degree of another emphasis.  Saying one has a "degree in theology" is a very general classification.  There are many forms of theology--historical, biblical, patristic, medieval, modern, etc.  It would not be a lie AT ALL for Huckabee to say he had a degree in theology, when he completed his B.A. or B.S. which had biblical education courses and theology in it.  In the evangelical world, to say one has a degree in theology means one has a degree in which one studied God--that is it.  Huckabee did that.  EVEN MORE, he completed nearly 50 units in seminary--which could give him a one-year master's degree in many seminaries.  Of course his degree plan was not one of those one-year plans, but he still did the equivalent of them.  Bottom line, as I said above, it was not a lie.  He did have a “degree in theology” from his undergraduate work.   Even Huckabee's aide should have known the difference and clarified that the “theology” he was speaking about was that Huckabee didn’t have a “degree in comparative religions,” which was the context of those discussions.  

Huckabee’s response is therefore ACCURATE….
"I have a Bachelor of Arts in religion and a minor in communications in my undergraduate work," Huckabee answered. "And then I have 46 hours on a master's degree at Southwestern Theology Seminary. So, my degree as a theological degree is at the college level and then 46 hours toward a masters – three years of study of New Testament Greek, and then the rest of it, all in seminary was theological studies, but my degree was actually in religion."   [“Religion” of course being “Christianity”—which is a THEOLOGICAL study!]



TO MOVE THIS SUBJECT FORWARD, Huckabee did have an emphasis in speech and communications in his undergraduate as well--something that he has clearly used in his political life, is gifted at, and will use in his presidency WHEN he wins.  Unlike baby-whiner communicator's like Ron Paul--doesn't he sound like he's always whining about something when he addresses any issue.  Oh, I forgot my tag line...time for you Ron Pawns to start criticizing me...telling me how my research is wrong...telling me what a historical and political ignorant person I am...you'll excuse me please while I take a NAPPY...your tactics are getting old, are not working...and your candidate is going to swirl down the toilet just like my………respectfully speaking of course.

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