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Oh-eight (D): New electability numbers

Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:13 AM by Mark Murray
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USA Today writes up the new USA Today/Gallup poll: “Clinton is backed by 45% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents, up 6 percentage points from a poll taken two weeks earlier that showed her standing eroding… Obama is at 27%, up 3 points, and former North Carolina senator John Edwards is third at 15%.”

VIDEO: NBC's Political Director Chuck Todd offers his first read on who the latest polls show as being most capable of winning the presidency for their political party.

“In hypothetical matchups for the general presidential election, Clinton and Obama each led Giuliani, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee and Romney, although at times narrowly. Obama was somewhat stronger, besting Giuliani by 6 points, Huckabee by 11 and Romney by 18. Clinton had an edge of 1 point over Giuliani, 9 points over Huckabee and 6 points over Romney.

BIDEN: The Union Leader followed Biden around the state and profiled him. “Ask the average voter what he or she thinks of Biden, and you're likely to get one of two responses: ‘Who's he?’ or ‘He'd make a great secretary of state.’ The latter seems to irk Biden even more than the former. ‘I'm not going to be secretary of state. Don't say that,’ he pleaded with one voter at a recent campaign stop on the Seacoast. ‘In no administration would I accept the position of secretary of state.’”

In a phone call yesterday, NBC’s Ken Strickland notes, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman -- and presidential candidate -- Joe Biden told Pakistan President Musharraf to "return Pakistan to the democratic path" by lifting restrictions on the press, restoring an independent judiciary, and ensuring free and fair January elections.

CLINTON: The “personal touches” were on display for Clinton in Iowa yesterday, the Des Moines Register writes. “Clinton's staff believes there's little doubt among Iowans that the New York senator has the strength to lead. But proof that the former first lady turns off a significant number of Iowans is easily found in the most recent Iowa Poll. Clinton was seen as the most "negative" and "ego-driven" of all the Democratic candidates. And 30 percent of likely Democratic caucusgoers viewed her unfavorably.”

The New York Daily News: “With her aura of inevitability shattered, and nothing to show for a spate of negative campaigning last week, Clinton’s presidential campaign is now trying to melt voters’ hearts.”

Per NBC/NJ's Athena Jones, Hillary Clinton told an audience in eastern Iowa on Monday that anyone who had been on the national scene as long as she has is bound to end up with a lot of detractors and said any Democratic nominee would have “high negatives” very quickly. She was speaking in response to a question from a man who said he knew a lot of people who for some reason didn’t like Clinton and asked how she could win over those voters.

"You know, there are people who would never vote for me. It breaks my heart, but that is true and that don’t like me, although they’ve never met me. But you know, I’ve got to tell you that if you’ve been fighting for the causes you believe in and taking on tough special interests as long as I have, you’re going to get beat up. And anybody who has done, or anybody who’s been as a Democrat on the national scene as long as I have is going to end up with a lot of people who have been convinced that there is something that shouldn’t be liked or approved… What I have found is that campaigning and talking about real issues and making your case to people actually   does change opinions.”

This isn’t the first time in recent weeks, Jones notes, that Clinton has had to tackle such a question. Clinton also talked about the some in the media having their own reasons for criticizing her. "Now there are some people who will never agree with me. They’re ideologically opposed to me; I’m far more progressive than they wish to be. They have commercial reasons. You know, we joke a lot about some of the folks, the talking heads on radio and TV, you know if the ratings dip a little bit, well, you know they’ve got a hard core that always responds to going after me, so they can make some money off of me.” (Our question, though: At what point should Clinton stop talking about why she appears to be more polarizing than her foes? Does talking about it help or remind voters of the issue?)

Interestingly, Al Sharpton had to cancel his trip South Carolina yesterday and never did meet with Bill Clinton as planned. Instead, the two talked by phone. The New York Times: "The talk followed by just days The Philadelphia Inquirer’s publishing an account of a conversation, secretly taped by the F.B.I., in which Mr. Sharpton appeared to promise a Philadelphia fund-raiser some help on a business deal in return for a five-figure contribution to the 2004 Sharpton campaign. Mr. Sharpton said in an interview Monday that there had been no quid pro quo involved, and pointed to his talk with Mr. Clinton as a sign of his innocence."

The change in strategy to focus on Clinton's softer side may seem contrived to some cynics, but the campaign is getting the press coverage it wanted. The LA Times’ headline: "Supporters describe Clinton's softer side."  Subhead: "A Web video, 'The Hillary I Know,' is part of a larger effort to lower the Democratic presidential candidate's unfavorable ratings."

The New York Daily News takes a look at the pressure Mark Penn is feeling right now, and gets Penn to say he's not worried about being tossed out in a shakeup.

Politico's Ben Smith, himself a veteran of covering the Clinton campaign team in its New York days, looks at that history and finds that Howard Wolfson has won out over Penn in this latest Clinton strategic message shift.

So was Bob Kerrey being Bob Kerrey with his compliment of Obama about his Muslim heritage or was there something more sinister behind his decision to call Obama by all three of his names? Clinton was asked about it yesterday. “In a meeting with the Quad-City Times editorial board, Clinton said Kerrey’s use of Obama’s full name was nothing more than part of a compliment. ‘I think the remarks were very positive,’ Clinton said. ‘I know Bob. He was being very complimentary of Sen. Obama. He was making a point that Sen. Obama makes himself all the time, that because of his upbringing and his heritage he is, in his view, very well suited to communicate with the rest of the world. And he has just said himself that he wants to have a particular outreach to the Islamic world. So I think Sen. Kerrey was being, you know, very generous in what he said.”

But then this? The Huffington Post: “Kerrey … said during a television appearance on Monday that her primary opponent, Sen, Barack Obama, attended a ‘secular madrassa’ as a child… ‘I've watched the blogs try to say that you can't trust [Obama] because he spent a little bit of time in a secular madrassa,’ the Nebraska Democrat said on the Situation Room with John King. ‘I feel quite opposite. I think it's a tremendous strength whether he's in the United States Senate or whether he's in the White House.’”

EDWARDS: The candidate's apparent momentum in Iowa is starting to get more notice.

The man who is the coverboy of the Washington Post style section, David Yepsen, says not to rule out a surge by either Edwards or Thompson.

The Edwards campaign today has unveiled a faux movie trailer urging Iowa Democrats to caucus for him on January 3.

OBAMA: Obama is up with a new direct mail piece in New Hampshire that goes after Clinton for attacking his health-care plan and uses clips from reporters. The piece is done in such a way as to appear he's defending himself from Clinton's attacks. Is it negative or a response?

Obama begins airing in South Carolina the “Chances I Had” TV ad he’s run in other states.

The New York Times’ David Brooks takes a look at the two Dem front-runners, and suggests that Obama would make the better president. "If Clinton were running against Obama for Senate, it would be easy to choose between them. But they are running for president, and the presidency requires a different set of qualities. Presidents are buffeted by sycophancy, criticism and betrayal. They must improvise amid a thousand fluid crises. They’re isolated and also exposed, puffed up on the outside and hollowed out within. With the presidency, character and self-knowledge matter more than even experience. There are reasons to think that, among Democrats, Obama is better prepared for this madness."

More: "What Bill Clinton said on ‘The Charlie Rose Show’ is right: picking Obama is a roll of the dice. Sometimes he seems more concerned with process than results. But for Democrats, there’s a roll of the dice either way. The presidency is a bacterium. It finds the open wounds in the people who hold it. It infects them, and the resulting scandals infect the presidency and the country. The person with the fewest wounds usually does best in the White House, and is best for the country."

One group of folks where Obama's come up short, as the AP notes, is in union support.

The unnamed Barack Obama bus tour winds its way back to Des Moines today from Sioux City, NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan notes. There, Obama will hold a foreign policy forum in Des Moines before heading to New Hampshire. The campaign has visited 23 cities in 22 counties over the past six days, connecting with a few thousand voters. He ended the day with a rally in Sioux City at the Orpheum Theater, drawing a crowd of at least 800 people. 

Aside from Obama jabbing Edwards yesterday, there was little "news" to report. Obama went from one small town hall to the next meeting with crowds of around two hundred or more people in four different cities, with the same message of hope, change and caucusing for him.

RICHARDSON: Per the campaign, the New Mexico governor will use the last several days until the Iowa caucuses to make Iraq the “centerpiece” of his closing argument. Indeed, “At a campaign stop in Mount Vernon …, Richardson said ending the war is the ‘lynchpin for restoring the American dream,’” Radio Iowa reports. “Richardson criticized other candidates for starting to emphasize domestic issues and Richardson also criticized the news media for shifting focus away from the war.”

The Des Moines Register adds, “Quickly ending the Iraq war is the key to repairing political damage caused by the conflict and restoring the American Dream, the New Mexico governor told about 200 people Monday at Cornell College. ‘The day after I take the oath of office, and pledge to protect the Constitution of this country, I am going to tell our troops in Iraq: “You have served magnificently. Now you are coming home.”’”

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Forty percent of Americans say they would vote to keep Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton from winning the presidency, more than twice the total for their No. 2 "anti-" pick, former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani.
Mr. Obama was the only other candidate to draw double-digit opposition in the poll, with 11 percent saying they would consider using their vote against him.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071218/NATION/42189178/1001


USA match up poll coupled with this...Let's talk about electability...Hillary, After throwing all of your dirt in the past month people want you even less
I like Biden and think that he would be an amazing President.  I wish his numbers were better, cause his experience would be crucial just now.  
These polls might seem misleading because they do not account for how many people are undecided.  The more undecideds there are, the less meaningful these kinds of polls are.
I'm sure Van will be out with his worthless dribble in a while to prove the pollsters wrong......


“Ask the average voter what he or she thinks of Biden, and you're likely to get one of two responses: ‘Who's he?’ or ‘He'd make a great secretary of state.’ The latter seems to irk Biden even more than the former. ‘I'm not going to be secretary of state. Don't say that,’ he pleaded with one voter at a recent campaign stop on the Seacoast. ‘In no administration would I accept the position of secretary of state.’”

Why would he be Secretary of State?
The hours are bad and the pay is wayyyyyy smaller then he would be getting in the Senate, where he could just sit at his desk and go home at the end of the day.


Clinton was seen as the most "negative" and "ego-driven" of all the Democratic candidates. And 30 percent of likely Democratic caucusgoers viewed her unfavorably.”

Waiting for Van to show the polls to answer that one LOL.....


Hillary Clinton told an audience in eastern Iowa on Monday that anyone who had been on the national scene as long as she has is bound to end up with a lot of detractors and said any Democratic nominee would have “high negatives” very quickly.

When you look at her history you can understand why she is like she is; a tough career driven woman who will stop at nothing to get what she wants and throw people under the bus and drag them down the road to get what she wants.


What I have found is that campaigning and talking about real issues and making your case to people actually   does change opinions.”

If she would start talking about those issues in the open and stop whispering in people's ears and make sure people know what she is about, maybe more and more people would come around to her.  But as long as she is playing the secrets game, she will always be known as the Ice maiden.



The talk followed by just days The Philadelphia Inquirer’s publishing an account of a conversation, secretly taped by the F.B.I., in which Mr. Sharpton appeared to promise a Philadelphia fund-raiser some help on a business deal in return for a five-figure contribution to the 2004 Sharpton campaign. Mr. Sharpton said in an interview Monday that there had been no quid pro quo involved, and pointed to his talk with Mr. Clinton as a sign of his innocence."

If Bill really thought he was innocent, he would have met face to face, but I hope for the Clinton's sake, nothing in that conversation was taped.  Al Sharpton is nothing more then Norman Hsu with a preachers voice.




Normally, I despise David Brooks, the sniggery little worm, but his assessment of Obama's strengths is right on. His last point, however, that successful Presidents are those with the fewest wounds, seems to score one for Hillary. Hill stikes me as the more emotionally mature and stable candidate. With all she has endured you would think she'd self destruct, but doesn't, she keeps pushing herself and growing. I still support Edwards, Brooks notwithstanding. He's the real, real deal.
John Edwards as Wyatt Earp??? Oh please. Maybe Kenneth the page from 30 Rock.
Brooks is right.  This is why Hillary is so wrong for the job with all that baggage.  Nothing will get done and much polarizing and tug of wars will ensue.
I cannot believe people actually believe Hillary is the one who is most electable or is the one to get the most done.  You cannot get more than deadlock if the congress refuses to work with you and the country is even more divided than it is now.
Amy - I believe Brooks meant political wounds, which Hillary has far more of.
This is interesting information, and proves what I've been saying all along.
Most of Obama's support comes from independents who are trying to dictate to the Democratic Party who we should nominate.
We owe these people nothing, they are the same group who got behind Nader in 2000, and Nader or Cobb in 2004.
It's yet another reason why Obama should not be the Democratic Nominee in 2008.
We need to be nominating a Democrat who'll represent the Democratic Party's agenda and it's membership. Not someone who'll placate to independents and third party activists...who do all they can to help the G.O.P. at election time.

DEMOCRATS FOR HILLARY, 2008! ***Experience Counts***
Would some one please explain to me if people think Senator Biden would make a great Sec of State, why is it so hard for them to go one step further and realize that he would make a great President?
Hillary, it's not that people are ideologically opposed to you, it's that they see your poll-driven campaign strategies. Don't start using "candidate for change" just because it's been so helpful for Obama. Don't bring Maya Angelou out just to use her against Oprah. Don't start showing your "softer side" after polls say that's your weakness. Just a few weeks ago you were explaining how your thick skin made you a great candidate, and now you're trying to portray yourself as soft just to win a few votes. The American people need honesty, transparency, and conviction now more than ever, and people see that this is not what you represent, no matter what campaign you run this week.
His last point, however, that successful Presidents are those with the fewest wounds, seems to score one for Hillary. Hill stikes me as the more emotionally mature and stable candidate. With all she has endured you would think she'd self destruct, but doesn't, she keeps pushing herself and growing. I still support Edwards, Brooks notwithstanding. He's the real, real deal.
Amy B Portland, ME (Sent Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:50 AM)

That is one of the things I most admire about Hillary.  I cannot imagine living in her shoes these past 15-20 years.  There is not doubt that the constant commentary and criticism must take a pretty heavy toll on a person.  

I don't necessarily think that qualifies her to be president, but in terms of strength and perseverance, I think she is way ahead of the other candidates.  
Interesting to see that Obama matches up STRONGER than Hillary in a head-to-head contest with leading Republicans. A big part of the pro-Hillary argument is that Obama will struggle against the Repubs in a general election.  
Not that early poll numbers are by any means definitive; but if it's true, it could spell trouble for HRC. Some people are saying "we think Obama's the best choice but can he win?".  Once that 'can he win' part is out of the picture, Hillary can call it quits.
"At what point should Clinton stop talking about why she appears to be polarizing............"

NOW!  And she and the other candidates and their supporters can stop arguing the "experience" issue too.  The facts are there, we all know them, no need to keep re-hashing.  Nobody's mind will be changed.  And, they can stop arguing about whether some one is more likeable, is "soft enough" but not too soft; which candidate really stands for change---well you get the point.  All of these minor flaps are simply that---minor, but by dwelling on them we have allowed all the candidates to not have to focus on the tough issues.  We've had weeks of this--I would like to see them get back to their solutions for our country's problems.
I must know only above-average voters, because I haven't encountered anyone that has said "Who's he?" when Biden's name was mentioned.  
vote Ron Paul or you're a scurvy pirate.  & What do you do with a scurvy pirate?  you make him walk the plank...
jerry/corpus christi texas (Sent Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:49 AM)

Little jerry-

Until you start participating in republican threads, or until the general election, you're Sierra, or any of the other posters here that I've nicknamed "scroll".
You offer nothing. You're a heckler, and not even within your own party. You're a boor and a bore, and tantamount to talking to a wall. Trading taunts and barbs is not debate or political discourse. Feel free to invoke my tag, but it will be howling into the wind.  I won't take the bait, Little jerry. Call it, "addition by subtraction"...Your new name is SCROLL...


Van
After finally watching the Democratic debates (thank God for TIVO), I am simply amazed that people do not know who Biden is..I have been an Edwards supporter, but Biden really is the best man for the job..I SO wish more people would wake up and realize that, but only us political junkies seem to..what a shame, since this country really, really needs him now.
If, as the article alleges, Iowans truly say "Who's he?" when asked about Biden, one can only fault the national media for its obsession with Clinton and Obama, who have captured the (relatively few) big-money Democrat donors.

Neither Obama or Clinton is likely to be elected in the general election as no Republicans will cross party lines to vote for them -- while Democrats who possess serious reservations about Obama and/or Clinton will definitely cross the line for certain Republican candidates.  

Watching the leadership and monied supporters of the Democratic Party, of which I am a life-long member, throw this opportunity away is more painful than watching what happened to Al Gore in Florida.  

Unbelievable.  
Barak Obama for a better America.

It's time to Rise and Shine again.
Hillary, no way.  She tries to show her sense of humor by laughing like a witch.  She tries to show her softer side by bringing in her mother.  Please... Keep the Clintons out.  Edwards is okay.  However, Barack Obama is the choice that would be best.
I like Bidden, he makes more sense on the issues that we face now.
I beleive all polticans have to lie in-order to get elected.
But I think Bidden is not as bad as the others.
Hillary Clinton is the best choice, followed by Biden. Between the two they will clean up the mess left by Bush. If Hillary wore her heart on her sleeve, she would be accused of being to emotional. I think she is great and would make a very dynamic President
Lyn, MD (Sent Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:28 AM)

It's because MSM paints her like that and those people who fall for it, hate her. I am not sure if you count yourself in that 40% and trying to feel vindicated about your hatred without knowing her?
Hillary is the more stable and mature candidate. My vote is for Hillary. I do see Edwards point, however we do not want to swing the pendulum the other way from Bush. Gulliani reminds me of the joker in batman cartoon series
Hillary has proven she's got what counts to be the president...proven leadership, real experience, and meaningful results for her constituents.  Anyone who can't see that needs a thorough colonic enema!
Your polls mean nothing to me only that they dicourage voters as we are made to believe you have picked the winners already....How about if the media and all these poll takers...who i think make it beneficial to certain canadates.   not do polls and lets le the Voters decide....we have 12 mos of brainwashing and the media eats this up....How about the price of oil and northern states are hurting..How about Health care when are elected officals dont have to worry...How about the person who does without because there poor....How about gas prices effecting the cost of services and the taxpayer has pick up these high cost...I can go on forever...Politics as usual,same old promise and they forget when the get elected what they promised. Nothing has changed just a rich goverment taking care of there own
Dear First Read;

There you go again with your "snarky" question marks when writing about Hillary.

Why don't you folks just be candid and upfront and say, "We're for Obama."?

Of course Jerry has another smart comment to make about someone intelligent enough to support the candidate who most strongly disagrees with everything Bush. Jerry, it really is okay, we will only decimate everything you Repugs have "Created" in the last 7 years. Feel sad?
the fact remains when the dem candidates are matched up against the repub candidates nation wide edwards is the 'only dem' that beats all repub candidates, although the media does not like to talk about it edwards is, and has always been the only dem that can win the general election despite the tons of garbage the press spews forth daily, nobody likes to discuss this fact due to hillary and obamas novelty, good ol boy, politics as usual status, but neither can win the general election, so blabber on about their tabloidish qualities all you want, but when it comes time to vote, vote for edwards or lose
I have always been one of those voters who would love to see a woman president but never warmed to Sen. Clinton. Now given the way she and Pres. Clinton have and are going after Sen. Obama I have come to loathe her, and say anyone but Hillary! For the first time in my memory, we the democrates, have an outstanding field of candidates and Sen. Clinton has soiled the waters for good. I am reminded of the "bad" times in Clinton's presidency. I am reminded why people don't like Hillary. She reminds me of the women during the women's liberation movement who hurt the advancement more than helped it.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Clinton tops the list of "anti" candidates in a poll that asks Americans who they would most want to keep out of the White House, The Washington Times reported on Tuesday.

Forty-percent of Americans said they would vote against Clinton, a New York Democrat, according to a Fox 5-The Washington Times-Rasmussen Reports poll.

Clinton scored more than twice the total of the No. 2 "anti" pick, Republican Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor.

"Hillary Clinton is better known than any (other) presidential candidate on either side. She has a lot of people who love her and a lot of people who hate her" said pollster Scott Rasmussen.

Sixty-four percent of Republicans and more than half of adult men under 40 said they would use their vote against Clinton, the poll found.

Giuliani drew the strongest opposition from Democrats, with 30 percent saying they would vote to bar him from the presidency, according to the poll.

Among the other candidates, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama also scored double-digit opposition with 11 percent saying they would consider using their vote against him, The Washington Times said.

Republican Mitt Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, rounded out the leading "anti" candidates with seven percent opposition, the survey found.

The poll of 1,000 adults, taken December 11 to 12, has a margin of error of five percentage points.

Hillary is getting back on track. Keep it up Hillary!

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Williamsburg, CO 81226
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Gnostic Mastery
December 18, 2007
To; First Reads
Ladies and Gentlemen
Hillary Clinton is to be admired, she is not only getting hit by the Democratic wan-a-b president but she is also been  trashed by some influential individuals in the main stream media like Chris Matthews and this guy Tucker. Also she is been bestially hit by the extreme right wing talk shows embedded in Clear Channel and Fox TV. So, I frankly believe that if she is still standing is because she is the real deal.
The right wing and some in the main stream media are somehow  promoting Barak Obama because is the easies to defeat in the general elections. By promoting Obama and going after Hillary they can design their campaign base on “inexperience” and that he is to young and you can rest assure that they will sneak in the word “Muslim”. Remember that the Republican Right winger’s propaganda is based on “fear”.  According to my personal “intelligence gathering” there are some on the Christian rights preparing what it could be the final blow to Obama’s dream the blow will not permit him to recuperate ever.  They are planning to say and they will quote prediction (prophecies) that a man born in the east will gain power and rule with strong hands and bring the world to chaos and destruction by introducing his new doctrine. It says about this man that he will introduce himself as a compassionated, smart mouth and with soft and attracting words.
Obama was born in the east and was born of Muslim/Islamic origin; I am not saying that he is that man on the prophecies and in the Book of John, I can not tell, but they will use this as a fear tactics. They will swift boat Obama from the very beginning.
What is going on with those against Hillary? Well is psychological reaction, not against Hillary but against her husband Bill Clinton. They can stand Clinton because after all the occurrences while he was in the white house he is still smiling and more popular than ever, “plus richer”. They complain about Bill helping Hillary, so what is her husband and hi is supposed to help her.
So this is the fact and bottom line is their hate and dislike against Bill is been emptied on Hillary. They wanted Hillary to trash and destroy Bill but she stood firm and kept him. On the other hand the right wing cult knows that Hillary can take on any of those running for the white house job and she can easily win.
My prediction is that Hillary will win the nomination.    



polls mean what you want them too,of course I m happy with this one cause my person is doing better,but not the be all end all ask Karl Rove what his 2006 polling data told him ,Republican sweep of the house and senate,HAHA
As the United States has seen, leadership is the key factor in the direction of a country.  What type of leader would think of, and approve, looking at an opponents Kindergarten papers for campaign dirt? What is the quality of the leader who has surrogates make a false accusation, to get the dirt floating, and then have a surrogate apologize for it AND mention the false accusation in the apology.  America will get the leadership it deserves.
Jerry you stay up all night thinking about Van and hilliary ever think their the same person?HAHAHAHAH
I am not a mormon not a muslim or a christian  or hindu but when you nutjobs are done killing childern and women ,old folks,let me know which team I should pray to. MIGHT MUST MAKE RIGHT,or THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH HOU SHALT NOT KILL MAKE UP YOUR MIND>INSTANT KARMA IS GONNA GET YOU>
I'm 61 years old and have never voted for a pepugilican..and i  never will (I live in Texas)but i don't believe obama has enough experence to be president...bit neighter did bush...we cant afford any more on the job training though so if ombams get the nod i will set this one out even though i voted in every election since 1968...but if America is smart it will be Madam President...it the only chance we have..ASHAMED OF Bush in Texas.
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg for President! I think he is the only one that can save America!
Unfortunately for the american people, and the America I know and fought for, the one candidate who is truely for the people and our constitution is never mentioned, nor allowed to speak at a DEMOCRATIC debate, and is constantly dismissed by major media groups as being "un-electable".  Each of these so called "electable" candidates are now saying what Dennis Kucinich has said all along.  They are taking his ideas and spinning them as their own.  I wish the american people would wake up, and the media would stop force feeding their ideals to us in return for profit.  What happened to freedom and the country I fought for?

Kucinich '08
Unfortunately, when it all comes down to it, the most likely democrat to be elected is John Edwards.  When it comes down to the dem primaries, it is likely that one of the other candidates will take the nomination.  The unfortunate part is that while it is left widely unspoken, the nation will still not vote a woman in as president, nor will it elect a black man.  Those two things alone will get every republican voter over the age of 60 (and several democrats)into a voting booth just to make sure that hillary, nor obama is elected.  it is sad that at this point in time these items would be of any consequence when both are great candidates.  But I honestly believe that neither will be able to pull out the overall win because of the things that should matter the least.
How can a person run for president of our United States and not even pledge to our nation's symbol, the flag.  He does not stand up for what our country was built on.  We are a God loving country and we need a God loving leader in all aspects.  If he wants to represent us as president, he needs to stand up for all this country believes in.  In no way would I vote for Obama because I love my country and I love our flag.  Our flag is on the moon and all our soldiers carry it and fight for it.  We need a president who will respect it also and pledge to it.
Down to the last days and you will have done your part to elect the next President. What ever your convictions, the manner you voice your opinion, But you have no voice! Your physical deed to punch a hole aside a name on a ballot,, You call that a voice. Why is it they now use their agenda's to control your life? You Have no say about that subject. One vote and your commited to misrepresentation! Your legal strenght against changing wrong to right does not exist.

What we see today is where the real power can be controlled, one stept away of impeachment, laws which reflect to be only paper, Useless laws with out enforcement, Federal enforcement without physical being, Candor to incited, But by the stroke of your vote.

Question: Your vote is counted, yet why is your voice silent!!!
America will NOT elect a woman or a black man.  If they are on the Democratic ticket the far right will mobilize to vote Republican just to keep them from winning.  If the Democrats really want to have the White House, they better make sure Edwards or Biden are on the ticket.
I don't think Rudy will get the nomination because more and more baggage is being loaded on him from his past, includsing his criminal pal ("I didn't know".) Barney and his protected sex tabs ("It was creative book keeping".) on the taxpayers of NYC.  Romney will not get the nomination because the Mormon thing and his flip-flopping on every issue in sight kills him!  Huckaby won't make it either because again, the truth of his past ("God told me to free those killers".) will catch up.  That leaves Thompson, who wears lead inside his shoes because he is such a lightweight. "Now where did I leave my shoes?.  This will in turn leave old man McCain as the last Republican standing. ("At least until the election".)

Hillary is slipping at this stage and if Obama wins in Iowa AND New Hampshire she will be in deep trouble!  She will also be in serious trouble if she loses these two states to anyone else.  Don't count Edwards out just yet!!!  He is the wild card as far as the Democrats are concerned and a very smart guy.   If Obama and Hillary knock each other about enough, Edwards will be nominated.  In any case, McCains's age,if he gets the nod, will work against him.  Even Ronald Reagan wasn't THIS old @ 73!

I am going out on a limb:
McCain vs Obama or Edwards!
Are any of the top 3 Democratic candidates talking about anything relevant to what is going on in the world today?

It seems to me that the hype in this race is about absolutely nothing.  

No media wants to look at the issues because their 3 little pet Democratic candidates don't fair so well when the discussion is about more than "change" v. "electability."  

In order to know what they stand for we first need to know what they've stood for.  Where is the look at the political and voting records of the top 3 Democratic contenders?  They parse and bicker and squabble because that keeps the MSM amused and full of silly little stories.  When Biden accomplishes something in the Senate (Iraq vote) it is treated as an aside.  When he calls for action while other candidates are calling for contributions, it is quaint or expected or desperate.  If any of the top 3 spent any time doing the job they are currently elected to (except you Edwards, you are unemployed) and they manage to accomplish something, my goodness, it would be a coronation.  But, because the most qualified candidates are not history-makers the MSM has decided they don't make good copy, or video, or webstream.  They aren't sexy enough and, Lord knows, we haven't had enough sexy lately.  Paris Hilton for President.

The best candidate, the most forthright throughout the entire campaign, the guy not bullshitting the American people has been deemed too "last season."  As Heidi Klum says "One day your in and the next day - YOU'RE OUT."

After 8 years of subterfuge from the most arrogant of administrations, why are we accepting this shallow campaign?  

Kindergarten, cocaine, planted questions, unsavory ties, big donors, property sales, meltdowns, reinventions, clarifications, endorsorama.

We won't be fooled again......will we?
I still don't understand the - you have to be likeable; you must come of as nicey nicey, approachable, etc...requirement to be the President of the United States. Isn't that how Bush got into power? It's time to look way past that America.
Look at who could lead, who is strong enough, who is mature enough, who is capable of handling all the mess the current administration will be leaving behind, who can make the wisest decisions of all.

My opinion, it's either Hilary Clinton or John Edwards. Obama as much as I like him comes of as naive on some issues, he gets lost on some and too much in the middle on others. He'd make a good VP is he accepts it.
Dems ought to pay very close attention to the match ups with the Republicans.  Edwards does the best as a candidate who polls well against all the Republican possibilities.  Hillary is the weakest.  

We shouldn't mistake name recognition in national polls for hard support.  Also, if Giuliani wins the Republican nomination, any attack by surrogates on mistress or finance or shady associate  related scandals can't be used to any advantage by a Clinton campaign with enough problems of its own in all those areas. And Giuliani isn't the only candidate who would be bad news for a Clinton campaign.  

Dems who are serious about not settling for more seats in the Senate without taking back the White House need to ask themselves the obvious question:  Is this any time to make it any harder than it needs to be?
After everyone is done speculating it would be clear that the only ELECTABLE candidate in the democratic party is Edwards... As much as I love Hillary, I must admit that she can not win today.


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