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First thoughts: Back to the future?

Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:19 AM by Mark Murray
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
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Back to the future: Both McCain and Edwards are trying very hard to recapture the magic of their previous campaigns. On TODAY this morning, Edwards talked up his Iowa momentum, telling NBC’s David Gregory that he’s “seen this before.” Meanwhile, McCain -- with his Joe Lieberman endorsement -- tried to recapture his Bill Bradley moment from the 2000 campaign in New Hampshire. There is anecdotal evidence that both do have some momentum in Iowa and New Hampshire (respectively), but is it the same as they experienced previously -- or are folks trying too hard to find comparisons? Then again, even if the comparisons are correct, those 2000 and 2004 campaigns didn’t end in victory, did they? Also, don’t miss the news that McCain is now going after Romney (via direct mail) in New Hampshire…

*** Obama vs. Edwards: How many people saw this coming? The big development yesterday was Obama's direct -- yet gentle (as the New York Times put it) -- hit on Edwards on his lack of taking on special interests when he served in the Senate. On TODAY, Edwards responded by citing his work to pass the Patients’ Bill or Rights. “I like Barack. Just on this case, he’s dead wrong.” It seems like someone's moving in the polls, huh? Does Obama risk hurting his own favorable ratings by hitting the guy whom Iowans view with enormous affection? In this odd game of three-dimensional caucus chess, is this about Obama worrying that 1) Edwards is doing well in second-choice polling, or 2) doing well in some of the more rural parts of the state -- places where Obama thinks he could do well if it weren't for Edwards.

*** When issues change: Just asking: Has anything had more of an effect on the fortunes of the respective fields than the shift in focus from key national security issues to domestic and character ones? When national security was Topic A in each primary, Clinton was becoming a stronger and stronger front-runner, and Giuliani was looking like a realistic nominee. Now?

*** I’m getting verklempft: Anyone else notice that both Romney and Clinton have been showing their emotions more on the campaign trail as of late? It certainly helps to show these candidates’ softer sides. Both candidates were running so-called "textbook" campaigns that were really working for most of the year. But as the campaign has shifted away from tactics and issues, both Romney and Clinton saw themselves get eclipsed in Iowa by the more personable candidates. But can either candidate sell emotion? It's never been either's strong suit. The danger for both is whether voters -- and the press -- see the emotion and softer sides as genuine or a new campaign tactic.

*** On the trail: Clinton campaigns in Iowa before heading to Chicago for a fundraiser; Dodd is also in the Hawkeye State, where he begins his “12 Days of Results” tour; Edwards travels to New Hampshire, where he hits three town halls with Bonnie Raitt and Jackson Browne; Giuliani raises money in New York City; Huckabee is in Texas, where he holds a media avail and raises money; Kucinich spends his day in New Hampshire; McCain also stumps in the Granite State; Obama holds a foreign policy forum in Des Moines, IA; Paul conducts interviews with the media; Richardson campaigns in both Iowa and New Hampshire; Romney is in South Carolina and Georgia; and Thompson stumps in Iowa. Also today, Bill Clinton and Magic Johnson campaign for Hillary Clinton throughout Iowa, and Ann Romney does the same for her husband in the Hawkeye State.

*** Another Super Tuesday! And for more on these events -- and much, much more -- tune into MSNBC’s all-day Super Tuesday political coverage.

Countdown to Iowa: 16 days
Countdown to New Hampshire: 21 days
Countdown to Michigan: 28 days
Countdown to Nevada and SC GOP primary: 32 days
Countdown to SC Dem primary: 39 days
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Hillary tried the "light my fire" campaign and that did not work.

She is now trying the "mother and child reunion" campaign and that is not working either.

Nice to see John McCain coming back from the ashes of defeat.

Clinton was a stronger front runner until she couldn't get the drivers licenses right and since then she hasn't gotten anything right.
She wasn't crying because all of her "friends" were there to support her.  She was crying because she's losing.

On electability, Obama does better against Romney, Huckabee, and Guiliani than Clinton, by quite substantial margins, in the USA Today poll released today.
Obama and Edwards have done some small shots at each other before.  This is no different from what they've said before about each other on the trail.
I guess you guys are just noticing.
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Trust no one...
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http://www.opensecrets.org/  Opensecrets.org is "Your guide to money in U.S elections."


Just about every poll from every pollster, averaged out, with a link to the source
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/  Is THE source for political junkies, with links to every major political site on the right, left and center.

What the candidates actually have said about the issues.
http://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm This is a Great site! Every candidate on every issue!


How the candidates have voted and their LIberal/Conservative ratings
http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib.htm?o1=lib_composite&o2=asc#vr Has the voting records for all members of congress, and their Liberal/Conservative ratings.

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Van
Romney & Hillary have a softer side only because the voter's have REJECTED that My way or the Highway attitude from both of them.For Hillary it's harder to show a softer side when you never see her smile.

For what it's worth: pollster .com has Barack @ 28- Hillary @ 27 & Edwards @ 24 as of this morning show on MSNBC in IOWA

Hillary @ 33- Barack @ 26 & Edwards in the teens in New Hampshire.
40% vote against her.
64% of republicans
40% of third party or independent voters
17% of democrats
said the candidate they most want to keep from the white house is Mrs. Clinton.

Which of the leading candidates would you most want to prevent from becoming president?

Hillary Rodham Clinton --------------------------40%
Rudolph W. Giuliani -----------------17%
Barack Obama -------------------11%
Mitt Romney ------------------7%
Mike Huckabee --------------5%
John Edwards ------------2%
John McCain  ------------2%
Another candidate --------3%
Not sure ---------------------------14%

The percentage of selected demographics that chose Mrs. Clinton as the candidate they would vote against:

Republican -----------------------------------64%
            (re-energized republican base)
Democrats --------------17%
Other ---------------------------------42%
____________________________________________________

Men younger than 40 ----------------------------53%
Men 40 and older ----------------------------41%
Women younger than 40 ---------------------39%
Women 40 and older ---------------------36%
_____________________________________________________

Married --------------------------------------45%
Not Married --------------------------32%
_____________________________________________________

White --------------------------------------42%
Black --------------------22%
Other -----------------------------------------46%

Washington times Rasmussen Reports poll of 1000 taken Dec. 11 to 12. The survey has a margin of error of five percentage points.



I think Obama is realizing that the time for speeches is rapidly running out and it is about ground games now.   He looks around and who has the two best ground games in Iowa?  Edwards and Clinton.

Edwards has been there forever, and surprised everyone last time around.  Now he has the mostly likely caucus goers in his fold and the union support to help get them out.

Clinton has best slate of Iowa ground game pros on her staff.  She has strong support among women and core Democrats.  She too has strong union support to aide her efforts.

Obama has almost no union support.  Obama is relying the most on first time caucus goers and students, many of whom may not come back to caucus, but even if they do help in only a small number of areas.  

Add to this that Gallup is showing us signs that the election is moving more towards electability and the fact that the Clinton camp has stopped giving Obama a pass and is not taking it to him, and Obama has to be nervous.  I could easily see Obama finishing third.

I think with their more traditional support and the union help Edwards and Clinton duke it out at the top on January 3.
MSNBC all day political coverage.   I get board of them bashing Clinton and sucking up to Obama after about a 1/2 an hour.  Who can watch that crappolla all day long?
THE "MO" IS IN HILLARY'S FAVOR.. HILLARYCLINTON.COM
Folks,

Hillary Clinton is spreading another Madrassa's rumor about Obama. When are they going to stop this garbage? I am getting tired of this rubbish coming from Clinton’s camp. Hillary can't tell me he didn't make approve this rubbish.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/17/kerrey-says-obama-attende_n_77209.html
FRIENDS>>>>> friends>>>>>>FRIENDS

Hillary Clinton has live long friends who reflect on her caring nature.  You can't have that level of friendship without that.


FRIENDS<<<<<   FRIENDS<<<<<

Why is it we NEVER see any of Obama's life long friends standing with him and supporting him?????

FRIENEDS>>>>>    We have heard of one of Barack's friends.....indicted slumlord TONY REZKO a good friend of his who helped him buy his property and house.

FREINDS....


SO WHERE ARE OBAMA'S LIFE LONG FRIENDS????????????
The Clintons are at it again; i am tired of this old school politics. Calling Obama's school a secular madrasa is like calling the boy scouts Hitler Youth without the Nazi stuff.

Obama and Edwards won't be seen as "hitting" each other because they're debating issues respectfully.  It doesn't cross the line into negative campaigning, even by Iowa nice standards.

In regards to comeback stories, Edwards is less coming back as conventional wisdom is admitting underestimating him in recent months regarding Iowa; for those paying attention, Edwards has always been headed for at least a strong second (which creates the distinct possibility of Hillary finishing third, mortally wounding her campaign).

When it comes to McCain, though, the media just has a hard on about writing comeback stories about him.  He's gone up, what, two points in NH, and he's been endorsed by media outlets and Joe Lieberman (gee, that one was a shock), and the media would have us believe this is all actual news.  It isn't.  As the recent Post article alludes to, most of those NH independents simply wouldn't consider voting for McCain anymore because of the war, and that isn't going to change.
Morning count-4 usual suspects with anti-Hillary garbage, 1 objective information packet.

I would challenge any of the US (usual suspects) to make a case for their guy without trashing the other guy(s).
It seems like most of the US are as much against someone as they are for their own choice.
If your candidate is so great, why do you devote most of your time to attacking rather than promoting the positive agenda of your candidate on the ISSUES?

Imagine a day where, instead of debating personalities there was debate about POLICIES and positions on the actual issues that matter, instead of who said what about who, or this one jabs that one. The future of America hangs in the balance and we play along with the, "Bread and Circuses", of the FR gossip-mongers, who's rhetoric is more suited to Lindsey vs. Paris, than Edwards vs. Obama, etc...


Van
The more that the Clinton campaign reveals how down and dirty and desperate they have become, the further they dig themselves into the black hole of obscurity.

7 years of Rove-style slash and burn politics has nearly destroyed this country. To see the same tactics employed by your own party is really very sad. How much more obvious could it be that we need a total break from this?
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?????????????????????


Rick,ky....come in RIck,ky.....can you hear me now!!!!!!

Obviously you've not come out of your cave for months or you would not be making such a dumb, low class stupid statement ................

I had to read it twice........

Hillary...you never see her smile.


Don't they have TV's over there in KY.  Ask Santa to bring you one and turn it ON.
Hilary CRY????  Nice political move Hillary but I am betting an onion was involved...   On the lighter side, Magic will sign more autographs today than Hillary and Bill together.
".....On electability, Obama does better against Romney, Huckabee, and Guiliani than Clinton, by quite substantial margins, in the USA Today poll released today. ....."
Dan, NH (Sent Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:37 AM)

Actually Dan, that's incorrect polling report.com has Hillary beating EVERY Republican Candidate, while Obama DOES NOT beat McCain.
Both Hillary AND John Edwards do better against Romney than Obama does.
Here's the website, I suggest you check it out.

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm

By the way....USA Today is a conservatively biased news source. Therefore their polling data is questionable. Polling Report.Com lists not just one, but rather, several polls. They all show the same thing.
If Hillary runs.....Hillary WINS.
Period.


JER of corPUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Better get your short term & long term memory checked out.

Hillary had a problem with the drivers liscense thing in a debate.

How do you conveniently "forget" that in the very next debate, Barak Obama could NOT get the very same issue RIGHT???????

OBAMA FUMBLED ADN FUMBLED and finally after prodding said    YES

!!????????????????????????????????????/


OBAMA IS FOR ILLEGALS HAVING DRIVERS LISCSENSE BUT HAS SAID .....NO....TO THEM WORKING IN THE USA.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Makes a lot os sense, Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is amazing to see those people who usually hide behind liberalism being exposed for the racial bigots they are.

Shame on all democrats who have ridden on the cocktails of civil rights but are now seen to be mainly interested in keeping African Americans and other minorities down.

In the past we racial minorities have received crumbs in exchange for our support at the ballot box and we have accepted this. Not this time because the Time is Now!!

Now that the people who feel they are owed the presidency are sliding in the polls, their true colors come out- they really do not want non-whites to bake the cake represented by the presidency.

Clintons and their supporters have made their views on Barack very clear and the African Americans are watching and waiting for a time of reckoning at the ballot box. Anyone doubting this is advised to tune into urban radio.

To the Cliton campaign and Clinton supporter's, please keep the Obama-hate coming and you will see how many votes you really get on election


**************************************************

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON excells at international relations and policy


BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA, chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations' Subcommittee on Europe has:


NOT EVEN CALLED A MEETING IN THREE YEARS!!!!!!!!



WHY???????????????



LEADERSHIP???????????????????????????

For what it's worth: pollster .com has Barack @ 28- Hillary @ 27 & Edwards @ 24 as of this morning show on MSNBC in IOWA

Hillary @ 33- Barack @ 26 & Edwards in the teens in New Hampshire.

Inspite of Hillary haters, she can still win Iowa and NH.

I am glad to see that hateful people are reducing:-)
For what it's worth: Great Buffalo Spingfield tune...

RCP averages with most recent polling data.
National Clinton-43.8 Obama-26 Most recent 45-27
Iowa     Clinton-26.3 Obama-29.8           24-33
NH       Clinton-31.5 Obama-28.5           34-25
NV               41.3       21.3           45-18
MI               44.7       21.7           49-18
SC               34.4       32.2           42-34

Rasmussen will have new polls for Ia, NH, and SC this week.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

Van
This talk of Mike Huccabee with the cross, com'on.  If you look at it , it is a shelf unit and not a cross.  But the media has to jump on it and say its a cross.  One more way the media is missrepresenting a thoughtful ad that the other candidates don't do.
John Edwards cannot lead the democratic ticket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADwjvAs9J-0

John Edwards and Hillary Clinton did not read the NIE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLJFujflVmY

Obama SmackDown Series: Smacks down Edwards on Iraq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4x_KnWEDjs

John Edwards Feeling Pretty.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q
'...Obama vs. Edwards...'

This is stupid !!
Obama and Edwards are natural allies
Obama, show us your ideas and plans
Let Edwards do the same
You both belong on the Democratic ticket

You're both good men
You're both good leaders

Leave the hit pieces to crooked Hillary
Any new Iowa, NH or SC polls lately ?

I haven't seen any recent polls of Nevada

What's up First Read ?
Not going Hillary's way so you won't show them ?
'...December 18, 2007
Clinton's Difficulties Deeper Than Strategy
By E. J. Dionne

WASHINGTON -- The Democratic contest in Iowa -- and possibly the battle for the party's presidential nomination -- hangs on whether Hillary Clinton can use the next two weeks to encourage second thoughts about Barack Obama, and get voters to take a second look at her.

A month and a half ago, Clinton was widely seen as the inevitable victor. Now, she faces a moment of great peril.

For most of 2007, Clinton benefited from a virtuous cycle. Her continuing lead in the polls slowly eased Democratic doubts about her ability to beat the Republicans next fall. Her crisp debate performances reinforced her message that she would be ready "on Day One" to be president. This fed back into more good poll results.

But her spiral downward began with a single mistake in an Oct. 30 debate over a New York state plan to give driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, even as she was coming under more aggressive attack from Obama and John Edwards. The decline affected her standing not only in Iowa, but also in New Hampshire, which was supposed to be Fortress Clinton.

Yet Clinton's difficulties owe to deeper flaws in her strategy. These include an early ambivalence about competing in Iowa; the failure to link her arguments about experience to more inspirational themes; and an underestimation of Obama, bred by his sluggish performance during the summer. She thus emphasized positions -- in favor of a tough Iran policy, for example -- potentially more helpful in a general election campaign than with a Democratic electorate.

That Clinton is only now rushing to complete visits to all of Iowa's 99 counties reflects the fact that some in her campaign, according to a memo leaked in May, once considered having her skip the state's caucuses altogether. David Bonior, Edwards' campaign manager, said last weekend that Clinton was running behind both his candidate and Obama in many of the state's rural counties.

And if Obama, with his soaring and idealistic rhetoric, has been more theme than pudding, Clinton's campaign has been more pudding than theme. It frustrates the Clinton camp that Obama's policy proposals, particularly on health care and taxes, have received limited critical scrutiny. But at an Iowa Democratic dinner on Nov. 10, Obama, after a lackluster summer, managed to hit a well-timed emotional peak. He found an effective line of criticism against Clinton with a passionate call for change and a broadside against "the same old Washington textbook campaigns."...'

Hillary is famous for being famous
Just like Paris Hilton
That's pretty thin gruel

At least Britney Spears makes albums....
Hillary just gets caught in scandals

THA'S your next President ?

JUST SAY NO !!


The attacks the Obama campaign are making on John Edwards record of fighting against "Big Business" special interests are unwarranted in my opinon. John Edwards as made some mistakes and has done some things that contradicted his core values but at his core he is the son of the poor rural South and has used his working class "work ethic" and dreams to become a wealthy man who has not forgotten where he has come from. I believe as President he will indeed fight for the working class American against "Big Business " special interests.
Looks like it's SLOW READ today...I'll check in in a few hours.


Van
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Clinton tops the list of "anti" candidates in a poll that asks Americans who they would most want to keep out of the White House, The Washington Times reported on Tuesday.

Forty-percent of Americans said they would vote against Clinton, a New York Democrat, according to a Fox 5-The Washington Times-Rasmussen Reports poll.

Clinton scored more than twice the total of the No. 2 "anti" pick, Republican Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor.

"Hillary Clinton is better known than any (other) presidential candidate on either side. She has a lot of people who love her and a lot of people who hate her" said pollster Scott Rasmussen.

Sixty-four percent of Republicans and more than half of adult men under 40 said they would use their vote against Clinton, the poll found.

Giuliani drew the strongest opposition from Democrats, with 30 percent saying they would vote to bar him from the presidency, according to the poll.

Among the other candidates, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama also scored double-digit opposition with 11 percent saying they would consider using their vote against him, The Washington Times said.

Republican Mitt Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, rounded out the leading "anti" candidates with seven percent opposition, the survey found.

The poll of 1,000 adults, taken December 11 to 12, has a margin of error of five percentage points.

A recent poll showed that Edwards is more electable then the other two democratic frontrunners.

Isn't it ironic that Obama calls out Edwards on interest groups, when Obama takes more money from lobbyists, corporations and interest groups with the exception of Clinton.


And Obama supported Bush's sanctions against Iran and co-sponosred a bill designating the Iranina National Guard a terrorists organization.. Obama is a fake.



Vote for real change:Ron Paul
-he voted against the Iraq war
-he has never voted to raise taxes
-he voted against the Patriot Act
-he opposes amnesty for illegals
-he opposes entering war with Iran
-he voted against Bush's amendment banning gay marriages
-he is for reducing the national debt by cutting government spending instead of placing the burden on taxpayers
-he is for fair trade
-he is for limited government
-he is for handling global situations with diplomacy
-his voting record is consistent
-he isn't backed by corporations, lobbyists and special interest groups

www.ronpaul2008.com
Hillary talks about all her experience from living in the white house. I've been on lots of airplanes, but that dosen't make me a pilot.
try, try as you may, the nation will refuse having the hillary stuffed down its throat
I'm Hillary's mother, and she never calls me anymore. And I don't like who she's married to. I wish she'd find a nice boy and settle down along with her son Chelsea.
Just what,I have been talking about.hillaryclinton.com
The madrassa piece isn't a rumor, Bee, but has been verified. I am not bothered by it, but let's face it - it isn't a rumor.
I find it comical that Barack claims he is about change and will bring real change - yet heavily relies on former Clinton advisors.
OBAMBA NEEDS TO ATTACK CLINTON, SHE PUT OUT THE DRUG RUMOR.  wHY DOESNT HE SAY SHE IS THE ONE THAT TOOK DRUG MONEY WHEN BILL PARDONED A DRUG DEALER THAT GAVE HER BROTHER HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS TO FUNNEL BACK TO HER  CMON OBAMA GET TOUGH
>> By the way....USA Today is a conservatively biased news source. <<

I see we are in the 'totally making things up' part of election now.
At Last:  "Countdown to Inauguration Day 2009: 399 days".  Is it just me or does this countdown seem to be going more slowly than the others?
Man, Americans are going to get what they deserve if they listen to the media.  It's scary for sure.

I wonder if some of you Hillary haters are going to commit suicide when she wins in Iowa?


Urban Legend (Sent Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:23 AM)

Urban Racist.
In the past we racial minorities have received crumbs in exchange for our support at the ballot box and we have accepted this. Not this time because the Time is Now!!

Now that the people who feel they are owed the presidency.

That would be you.
There are five stories about Senator Clinton in a row on this site and I can almost guarantee they will bring on a deluge of anti-Clinton rhetoric from the opposing camps.  Sometimes I wonder--are we being manipulated?
Does anyone else think that general election polls at this point are pretty useless?  Right now, the people paying the most attention are the Dems and Reps in the early primary states.  An independent voter in Ohio or Arkansas or Georgia probably isn't paying all that much attention to the election that's still almost a year away - people on this board excluded of course ;-).  I think that when the nominations are sewn up, you'll see general election polls that are more meaningful, and probably pretty close.  This nation is still very divided.  The last few presidential elections have been razor thin, as has control of Congress.  Of course, you never know what events could transpire in the next year that could tilt things one way or another.
more lobbyist on staff than any other candidate. this includes republicans.
Van,(stuck 0n stupidity)(amazed by stupidity)or whoever you are today.This is typical hillary, she has multiple personalities, whichever way the political wind blows on a certain day.She & You hillary supporter's CAN'T answer why she is the best candidate, other than it will bring Bill back into the Whitehouse.

Newsflash: However a good president he was, voter's still remember him lying(we just didn't think he should of been impeached for SEX)to the American public & the World.Do any of ya really think that voter's want him back trolling the Whitehouse? I seriously doubt it.Hillary supporter's just can't see that American's want to get past the politic's of personal destruction, She , personally is Unelectable to the general public.But hey, don't let that stop ya from putting her up as the Democratic nominee, we Democrat's are used to having our ass handed to us in Presidential election's.

J.Merle, keep on putting down the Independent voter's, who everyone know's you have to have to WIN any election.That's why there called Independent.The raried air up in New York is amazing.

"DELUSIONAL THINKING BY COMMON SENSE AMERICAN'S IS OVER "
Sierra SF.....Chairperson of Barrack Obama's Spread Smut and Smear Hillary committee.
http://www.hannity.com/
Barack Obama for President of the United States of America.

Say no to nepotism.
Say no to triangulated Iraq vote disasters.
Say no to mud-sling machine politics.

It's time for America to Rise and Shine again.
"Morning count-4 usual suspects with anti-Hillary garbage, 1 objective information packet."
Van
vanreuter, NY NY
**Sorry Van, I was late ...I could have made it 5-1!


Seriously though, I can't understand Bill Clinton this election cycle.  Whatever one thinks about him, and most highly, especially Democrats ...  H.R. Clinton's surrogates, most notably B. Clinton, are tossing cheap shots at Obama, trying to 'kneecap' him, while H.R. Clinton rises above the fray--which isn't working.  But I digress, it seems to me like they should not run B. Clinton as a VP-like person (even though that may be his role), and here is why.  The argument the Clinton campaign tries to emphasize is two Presidents in one.  Bill Clinton, in his fake pundit cap spewing negatives, well that isn't very Presidential.  If they are going to try to run two Presidents, both have to come off as presidential and that's not happening.

Speaking of two Presidents, I'm not really sure what the role of Bill C. will be in the WH.  He's a man used to being in charge, but that won't be the case, H.R.C. will.  How will he accept that dynamic in the WH?  I doubt better than on the campaign trail.  I'm not worrying about Clinton behaving himself sexually, but I am worried about him behaving himself politically, accepting the power dynamic.  And who works with a spouse, I could not imagine it being easy.  Does the country suffer if they have a fight?  The good news is that the marriage appears to thrive on separation and power, but I can't imagine that being enough for Bill C.  I wish her campaign would TRUTHFULLY answer the question about his role.

Speaking of 'Blast from the Past' (great movie), has H.R. Clinton's campaign's change in tactic from the change vs. experience argument against Obama subtly indicate that she lost?  I guess catered dinners and guided tours didn't muster as foreign policy experience.  Ha!


You all wonder why Obama isn't being vetted more and naturally blame the media.  Wrong, the fault actually lies in the Clinton campaign, surrogates and supporters.  The more they react, try to get Obama's negatives out (kindergarten? cocaine? Muslim?--of which the knowledge of other cultures is actually a positive), the more they ironically draw the media's attention from Obama.  Maybe that's the plan, keep the attention on Clinton.  The fact of the matter, you're scared.  You're scared, because you KNOW Obama could take the vetting and would make a wonderful general candidate.


I don't know if this quite qualifies as anti-Hillary garbage, I did my best.  I like to keep it positive too ...
--Congratulations on the Register endorsement yesterday thanks in part to 8 of 9 or 10 of the editorial board being women.  Gender bias?  I won't say that's a bad thing though either.
--I can't do it, I just can't bring myself to do it.  (I actually did say some very nice things yesterday).


G-Obama '08--Keep the momentum rolling!  Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays ...


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