But do Edwards' voters believe what they read in the National Enquirer?  Could be the crucial question for Edwards in the next several days.

If you are a Democrat and are really hoping to see Hillary fall... then I can guarantee you that come next November 2008 another Republican will be elected.  Why?

First, they will pound Obama with him having only served 1 year in the U.S. Senate.  That's it!  1 year!  He has not even shown if he could even be re-elected by his home state after serving out his first term... and he wants to say to everyone else that he can lead them?!  Based on what???  This is like a teacher getting a job teaching 3rd grade and after 1 year wants to run the Dept. of Education.

Another factor that will cause yet another Republican victory due to Obama will be their "war with radical Muslims" and they will tie-in Obama just with his name alone.

Edwards and Obama are running to please the far-left.  Period.  That is all they have.  No matter what you feel if any candidate does not try to run in the center then he/she will not win the general election.  The President of the United States represents ALL citizens... not just the ones at a college campus who wants to buy into this elections "new guy" (a.k.a. McCain, Ron Paul, Obama, Dean...

I mean, if you are Liberal and are supporting Ron Paul just because he is against the Iraq war... then are you also aware that he is anti-abortion?

Obama can criticize Hillary and Edwards for their vote in 2002 for the Iraq war... but at least they were there!!!

When you run on an extreme platform then you have already polarized the other votes that you will need to win the General Election... and remember, no Democrat in the past 40 years that I am aware of has yet to win with a majority of electoral votes.

So, continue to bash Hillary and vote for a 1 year Senator (its already hard enough for a Senator to win... hasn't been done since 1960 with Senator John F. Kennedy.  Everyone else since then: Governors)... and we will have another 4 years of a Republican president.

There is a silent campaign going around that Edwards has been sleeping around on the campaign trail, that he has in fact impregnated a lady.

If he does not get on this story and repudiate it before the Xmas holidays, just like Obama did on the silent campaign attack from the Clinton people, it can potentially derail his chances.

MK, Los Angeles, California (Sent Tuesday, December 18, 2007 7:54 PM)

Clinton only hope right now is for Edwards to win in Iowa, otherwise, she is done.

Sure would be cool if we could see the numbers the campaigns are producing for themselves. Also would be cool if we could see their cash on hand and burn rates a little more frequently than once every three months.

Picked up an interesting tidbit today. The Farmers' Almanac is predicting good weather for caucus night.

Also, another thought I had which in my mind raises questions about the poll cited here - we all agree Obama is doing well among younger adults, right? We all know that younger adults don't have as good a track record as older adults in actually showing up to vote. So wouldn't it make more sense for Obama to be doing better among all voters than he is among likely voters?

Its one of the things that's concerned me all along, as an Obama supporter. Younger people don't show up in the same numbers as older voters. But I set that concern aside with a realization that undecideds tend to break for the challenger (the role Obama is playing, compared to Clinton's role as the incumbent).

And the sum total of all that is my conclusion I have no friggin' idea what's going to happen caucus night.

Oh, settle down.

There's only one poll that matters. Wait a few more days and you'll know who the winner is.
Until then, who cares what these quote-polls-endquote say? Why not use that same mental energy to talk about the ideas these candidates are touting.

Oh, settle down.

There's only one poll that matters. Wait a few more days and you'll know who the winner is.
Until then, who cares what these quote-polls-endquote say? Why not use that same mental energy to talk about the ideas these candidates are touting.

Oh, settle down.

There's only one poll that matters. Wait a few more days and you'll know who the winner is.
Until then, who cares what these quote-polls-endquote say? Why not use that same mental energy to talk about the ideas these candidates are touting.

While watching the posturing that is going on for poll numbers the biggest factor in IA is who really attends these events. One big disadvantage that Obama has is the support of young voters. Historically they do not show up!

Dean for example hung his hat on them and came in 3rd which lead to his donkey braying speech.

In the grand scheme of things IA is becoming an after thought in regards to importance. With other states moving up there primaries the win in IA or NH get overshadowed with the up and coming events in other states.

Saddly there is not a decent candidate in the race on either side who has a chance to win. Likablity,looks and smooze are all that people pay attention to. People with sound ideas that are not radical in nature have been overlooked by the glitz and glitter. Hillary has ridden Bills coatail, Obama is attractive, Edwards has great hair.

Mitt is the best looking, Rudy the most pizzaz and Huck is trying the Pat Robertson approach of going after the religious sect.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/john_edwards/celebrity/64424

Could this end Edwards run or is it more garbage from team Clinton and Mark Penn!

I'm sticking with Tancredo and Hunter.  As far as I can tell (and I read everything I can get my hands on) they are the only 2 who actually care about protecting our nation.

And polls are baloney.  I thought Howard Dean was supposed to win the nomination, I thought Kerry was supposed to win the Presidency.  All polls said so. The poll leader usually doesn't win.  It's anyone's game at this point.

Likely voters, does that mean they may not vote at all?
Jumping at poll numbers is a waste of time, see you in 16 days, then the fun starts.
Demographics are just another way of trying to figure out what people really want and say, it ain't a science as much as a mathamatical supposition.
My father in law had a great saying "wish in one hand, deficate in the other, see which one fills up faster". Poll numbers are not reality till the votes come in. It is not only important to see how many are questioned but how the question was asked, lot of variables to create the numbers you are looking for.
Also, it depends on who is doing the asking and who is doing the answering, Human nature superscedes psuedo-science everytime.

John Edwards is a self-obsessed, egotistical pig.  His wife will be dead in less than 1 year and he would rather campaign.  His new 10,000 sq ft house features a 75 yard walkway plastered with pictures of himself.  Ask Joh Kerry why he still never sleeps?
The answer is John Edwards. I cannot wait until I never have to see or hear him AGAIN!!!!!!!

This poll really makes my day!

Maybe there is hope for our Country yet!!

Edwards is the only one talking about the kind of change that we need to bring straighten this whole global mess out right now.

He is a man on a mission, with honesty, and a personality to fight with. Go Johnny Go!

They are all a bunch of kooks.

If a Dem gets in the Country will fall into a recession and we will suffer for 4 years. High taxes, more social spending. Even the Republicans suck, but they will not screw-up the economy. The White House is like the Playboy Mansion to Bill Clinton, free Choppers, jets, being treated like a King, I can see the Spy from China in The Lincoln Bedroom Already...

I can't quite figure this out. I am a liberal and I don't know one liberal or Democrat who plans to vote for Hillary in the primaries. Is Hillary the Kerry of '08, the person you hold your nose and vote for in the general election because the GOP has such lame candidates. I like Edwards and Obama. Most liberals do. Why is Hillary polling so well nationally? Please explain that one to me.

Edwards is probably the choice of MSNBC.Edwards would be our Hugo Chavez.Slickest and sickest politician/ambulance chaser I have seen in a while.What do you expect from a far left populist.One more person who likes Kucinich AND Paul must never watch John"Where are my writers"Stewart anymore because if they can't tell the difference between the 2 ideologies they probably can't find Wash.DC on a map.Talk about pop culture politics run amok.Thank God 17 year olds can't vote.

Edwards is polling higher in New Hampshire, in South Carolina, and nationally than John Kerry was two weeks before Iowa in 2004.  He is a completely viable candidate.  Get the people behind you, and money and media will follow.

Edwards, Obama, ANYONE but the Clintons, Part 2.  I see Hillary trying to get back to the White House and think about all the lying, police-state tactics, use of private investigators to gather dirt and wipe out her political opponents, abuse of power, Whitewater, Travelgate, and other scandals of the Clinton White House too numerous to mention.  The thought of her at the helm is scary--very scary.

Before you cast your vote, please consider the following about the first Clinton co-presidency:

• The Clintons were more concerned about what they could get from the presidency instead of honoring their responsibilities to this country.  At the end of their term they were multi-millionaires.  Ever wonder how they got so wealthy?
• Think about how they sold our military secrets, how they exchanged pardons for Puerto Rican votes in New York, freeing some of the worst criminals just so Hillary could have what she thinks she is entitled to.  Will our democracy survive another four years of them?
• Hillary loves to play the victim--of Bill, of the Republican vast right-wing conspiracy, of all the Bimbos who sleep with Bill, etc.  Can a victim be an effective president?
• Hillary's long-suffering marriage to Bill, enabling him to have numerous sexual trysts -- not just a one-time dalliance with Monica -- results in her sense of entitlement.  Do we want a president who feels the job is rightfully hers just because she's suffered through 35 years of marriage to Bill?
• Hillary claims to be tough enough to play with the boys when, in fact, she is unable to leave a cheating husband.  How will she stand up to other men who walk all over her?
• Hillary attacks her opponents with lies and innuendo far more than she talks about how she would attempt to cure America's ills.  What is her plan...does she even have one?
• Hillary has no experience.  Being married to a president does not make one qualified to be president.  As a married woman, I cannot relate to a woman who stays in a sick marriage so she can capitalize on her husband's success, then pretend she did it on her own.  She gives no specifics about her experience.  More dodging accountability.
• Fact:  She's held elected office for one Senate term and has introduced no major legislation during that time.  Is this the kind of experience we want in the Oval Office?

Hillary is not what she pretends to be.  She is spinning her image -- the same tactics Bill used on an unsuspecting American people the first time around.  We should be smarter than that now.  Do we really want them in the White House again?

Cast your vote wisely in 2008.

John Edwards is a mirror loving sissy.  I hope he wins the Democratic nomination.  He'll be another Jimmy Carter.

apparently a big scandal is brewing with Edwards and infidelity.... Drudge has it now

Edwards is about to be caught up in a scandalous LOVE CHILD scandal and his 'honey' is in hiding this very minute. Drudgereport will have details in the next day or two. Edwards has always been an ambulance chasing hypocrit. Going about preaching poverty and income redistribution while paying $1400 for a haircut and living in a 24,00 square foot mansion. Iowans are *NOT* that stupid to choose such a moron! As usual, NBC shows its true colors SP roots by skewing yet another poll. No wonder NBC is having severe financial problems and GE about to wash their hands of them. (I would bet $1000 that msnbc hasn't the courage to post this. Just remember my post when the ==== hits the fan bout Edwards.

well here it comes, the slime and mud, www.drudgereport.com has an article on the "love Child" of Edwards, seems this is being played up by the National Enquirer.  Probably a Clinton thug machine trick

According to the Rigsmatten Poll today, Edwards is at 42% and Huckabee is at 47%.  Rigsmatten profiles are developed by a sampling of over 5000 people putting a wet finger in the air and measuring which way the wind is blowing.

Who cares? Everyone on the Democratic side is equally unappealling and unAmerican, socialists and commies, all. Then on the Republican side you've got the RHINOs and wannabees. I like Tancredo best but he's way down there. So I really don't care anymore. I'm going to have a happy Christmas and New Year and to hell with politics.

I am a Republican but anxious to vote Democrat for the first time in 20 years.

Not only is it a misleading headline, the statistics are misleading too. With a margin of error of +- 4% and +- 3%, there is no clear leader among caucus goers or likely voters. People shouldn't write articles with such bold titles without this kind of basic understanding.

The Democrat candidates all lack strength, conviction and a positive vision. I am not sure that many of the Republican candidates are much better but Romney has the most success in business and as a leader. I think Lieberman would be my ideal candidate for a VP as he is a man of conviction with passion and faith.

One really key piece of this data is the "second choice" part - Iowa Democratic caucus-goers for the other 5 candidates not in the top 3 will find that at most caucus sites their guys will not meet the threshold of viability, forcing them to either abstain from voting or get behind a "viable" candidate. Even if Obama and Edwards have a substantially equal number of first-choice voters, the many second-choice voters Edwards picks up could easily propel him to a commanding lead. A REALLY helpful poll would be combining "very likely caucus goers" and "second choice of first-choice supporters of Richardson, Biden, Dodd, Kucinich, and Gravel", all of whom will have a tough time passing the viability threshold of 15-25% (depending on the caucus site).

Its pretty hard to believe aman who gets 400.00 haircuts cares much about my 9.25 an hr job.That being said my choice would be Clinton/Biden and Edwards in that order.

I am tired of the status quo.
Checks and balances must be restored.

One Party rule just does not work-(socialist/Liberal Talk show hostRandi Rhoads 10-2006)
Therefore with a democrat controlled House and Senate
I will vote Republician. you all should as well.

wonder what his poll numbers will be in Iowa now that the Love Child story has come out.  Guess about the time his wife was being diagnosed with terminal cancer he was banging the help.  So very JFK....and I don't mean Kerry.

A third place finish for Clinton in IOWA WILL NOT DERAIL HER NATIONAL BASE,A WIN AND THIS RACE IS OVER.Come on Iowa make history with a winner.VOTE FOR HILLARY.She will make you proud you did.Neil, Charleston WV

This is to all those who are stressed with
Re:  Mitt Romney's flip-flop.  I used to be a Democrat and after gaining a greater understanding of the challenges in the world....I have now evolved and am a Republican....please do hold my past lack of understandings against me.

Give the man a break.

Edwards train is picking up speed and the light at the end of the tunnel is HILLARY accepting the Democratic nomination...then the real work begins.And believe me it aint going to be pretty whoever goes up againt the Republicans,so get off the nice kick.The only Republican id pay to see is JOE LIBERMAN.UGGHH

If the Edwards "love child" story is true - watch his numbers plummet. Sorry Elizabeth.

Vote for oversight.
Vote Republician.
A Democrat Congress and House will provide no checks and balances!

What party supported slavery?
What party supported Japanese internment?
What party supported segregation?
It's the same party that supports surrender, welfare, and entitlements at the expense of the middle class.
nuff said

I love Travis' implicit message: "Freedom of choice is only good if the people aren't allowed to choose anyone not personally approved by Travis."  Of course, that is reminiscent of the tenets of fascism, which indeed comes from the left.

This poll explains why the National Enquirer, owned by a major friend of Bill, is coming out with an issue headlining Edwards's "love child". The Clintons are certainly a class act.

Go Rudy!!!!!!!!!............we independents are going to put you in the white house...the dems are too liberal for my taste....

Take it from someone who has lived in NC all my life.  John Edwards is a complete fraud, phony, hypocrite or worse.  Please don't fooled by his good ol' boy charm.  This guy would be a worse president than Bush (if that is possible!).

now i know out of the blue the tabloid Inquirer has it's front page- the scandal-Edward has a love child.i bet source is coming from the Clintons. She is the only candidate with a massive attack dog machine capable of unravelling secrets.

Ya gotta remember, peeples, there's an awful lot of Ioway where most of the Dems are not ultra-lib, but are more likely to be the sort of well-meaning folks who still think that the Farm Bureau and the Chamber of Commerce are A-O-K by them, and are just thisclose to being Bob Ray Republicans -- and they are exactly the ones most likely to show up at the more rural counties' caucuses. And guess what? -- they know they don't like Hillary, huh-uh, not one bit, and they're not sure about Obama, since it's still a bit of a stretch for them to imagine not just a 'black' man sitting in the Oval Office, but a whole family of 'those people' living in the White House, oh gosh. Sure, they like to think of themselves as 'open-minded' and all that, but they just don't want their daughter marrying one, dontcha know.

And they might wish that the 'bottom tier' candidates had better chances than they so obviously do, because they do like that 'experience' factor that those guys have, but hey, doesn't everybody like to be part of the crowd that goes with 'the winner'? Just like in high school? Yep, that's the reality of the common garden-variety Iowa caucus-goer. Most are as yet not completely 'decided', and if the weather's bad at all, well, they're not gonna show up anyhow, only the hardest-core types will brave the elements.

And that, friends, is how all of the polling here-to-date has been conducted -- on the media-implanted suppositions in the brains of 'likely' Iowa caucus-gores -- that either Hill or Barry will be the inevitable nominee for the Big Dance, mostly questions asked long before these fellow Dems had taken much of a breath in the direction of really making up their minds, all in their own sweet time, you know.

So what to make of this 'news' about a new-new-new poll showing John Edwards being in the 'lead' in actual fact, hmmm? Well, that it's probably exactly right-on-target, that's what. Heck, the vaunted 'Iowa Poll' only ever interviews a lousy 400 or so Iowans, and this one talked to nearly 1000, and it's got only a 2% margin, so there you go.

Not that this isn't what some of us have been predicting all along -- that in the end analysis, Iowans are gonna go with 'what they know', and they 'know' John Edwards. He's more like them, he knows how to talk to them, and his innate value system most closely resembles their own. They know they want the country on a different path than Bush's, and they want someone they can trust to lead the way. And, too, their wives all like him 'best', too. Now there's a family that they'd actually enjoy seeing in the White House. Right?

IMHO, of course,
Kris, in Ames

P.S. -- Sure, I'm still goin' to all of the candidate events I can, 'cause it's fun, and interesting, and a darn lot better than the squibs that you non-Iowans get to see of who these people really are, so why not? We like to look 'em straight in the eye, poke 'em and sniff 'em, and size 'em up reeeeal good, now. So I just saw Edwards on Sunday (with Kevin Bacon doing a lead-in with his band), and I'm catching Chris Dodd on Wednesday, and Richardson on Friday, and I'll talk with each of them one-on-one. And probably all of them at least once more before Jan. 3, so for right now, it's party time. All very seductive and appealing, these so-important people wanting my personal support. Until the 4th, when they'll all be gone at last. Sigh...

As an Independent, I get to have a clear view of what happens. As an Iowan, I've seen this all before. I'd say Edwards will edge Hillary in the Demo Race. For the Republicans, I'd say most seem to like McCain, though they don't talk about him much. They seem to be trying to convince themselves on all the other ones, but knowing them, they'll go for McCain. He's the most Centered. We'll see, huh?

Could this be the cause of the Clintgon dirty trick scandal about to break in the National Enquirer on Edwards?

AOBD - please, anyone but a Demo.  The current D crew has absolutely no idea what our state of affairs are.  Softball questions and no real answers.  Not happy with most of the Reps but at least they have their heads out of the sand.  McCain - Paul best bets.

This is marvelous like the Huckabee puff-up until the scrutiny begins by the honest media. Then, there's the Natl Enquirer love child story coming out on Edwards, but hey what do they know? In 1992, they had someone with tapes of Bill Clinton named Gennifer Flowers. No mainstream media picked it up before, hey, it was a soiled tabloid. I'll be curious to see what happens 15 years later with another generation of 'journalists'. I'm out of it, thank God.

Hillary Obama or Edwards, should they be elected President, they will sure give a better service to the country. It will be a very sad commentary on American politics should the GOP delude the country with their hollier than thou ruse again.

Drudge is reporting something about Edwards and a pregnant girl. That could be the end of that if true.

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