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Romney calls Huckabee 'liberal'

Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:52 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC's Lauren Appelbaum
Calling his rising opponent "liberal," Romney went after Huckabee once again Tuesday afternoon.

"I think Gov. Huckabee's rise in the polls justifies him getting a close look by the voters," he said in Columbia, S.C. "I think as they take a close look at his record on immigration, they'll see somebody who was too liberal on immigration. When they look at the 1,033 pardons and commutations he handed out, they'll see someone who is too liberal on crime. When they look also at his record of spending from $6 billion to $16 billion as governor, they'll say that's too liberal of a spending record and too liberal of a tax record."
 
Telling reporters he is "convinced ... the good conservative Republicans of South Carolina will support a conservative candidate like myself," Romney was also asked about religion. One reporter said Huckabee was politicizing Christmas with his new ad, but Romney declined to agree.

"We unite over our commitment to religious liberty," he said. "I hope Governor Huckabee, like all of us at this time, is sensitive to that diversity of faith and the liberty of people's ability to worship God as they choose and to trust that he and other candidates will do just that."
 
Romney also admonished the spending bill the House produced today, using it as an excuse to promote the line item veto.

"I think like many Americans I was surprised to see a bill come out of the House with 9000 earmarks," Romney said. "It also has a $20 billion increase year over year. My pledge to the American people is not to allow increases of that scale. I think this is another example of Washington out of control in terms of its spending, and I think that the need for the line item veto could not be more clear."

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Huck lost an Iowa poll today taken by insider advantage.  He is hiding behind the cross and people are starting to examine his record.
Liberal?  From What?  If Liberal means that we'll stop rewarding the Big Business Boys Billions of Bonus Bucks then, I'm voting for Liberal Huckabee.

Big Money Men have a chance to loose some of their precious comforts if Huckabee takes the helm.  The underdog (I don't mean the lazy guy), I mean the less fortunate will start to stand up and be counted

So does this mean mormons are anti immigrant? And was mittflip against the 18000 earmarks last year? Doubt it
Romney is the Man!!!! He is the only one that has a record of change and success in about everything he has ever done. He is all about integrity, loyalty, hard work. Finishing what he starts.
He has our vote 110%!!!!
I'm for Huckabee.  He'll be out next President!
I'm trying to decide between two candidates: Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee.  It's really tough to decide. Both candidates have comparable educational backgrounds that qualify them to lead the United States (Huckabee's bachelor degree in religion from Ouachita Baptist University in Arkadelphia is roughly equivalent to Romney's cum laude law degree and Baker scholar MBA degree from Harvard, right?).  Both candidates served as governors of states that face equally complex problems (Arkansas, with its population of 2.8 million and gross state product of $87 billion, is pretty much the same as Massachusetts, with its population of 6.4 million and gross state product of $318 billion, right?).  Both candidates have pre-political experience that qualify them to be President (Huckabee was a pastor of several Southern Baptist churches in Arkadelphia, Texarkana, and Pine Bluff, Arkansas and served as president of the Arkansas Baptist State Convention; no doubt equal to Romney's  founding and taking of Bain Capital from a $37M fund to a $50B fund in 20 years and rescuing the 2002 Olympics).  And both have wives and children that would make a great First Family (compare Huckabee family photo at http://rubechat.kfan.com/forums/thread/2297213.aspx with Romney family photo at http://blog.electromneyin2008.com/about-mitt-romney/).  So you can see why I am having such a difficult time making up my mind . . .
OH OH, Mitt is using 'fightin words' he must be worried.
So glad a guy living in London England is posting on here... Try living in Iowa, because you are irrelevant. Give me a break, Huckabee wants a Nanny state like Europe... so if you are down with that, vote for Nanny Mike. Incredible...
>>I mean the less fortunate will start to stand up and be counted<<

PJ, I think what you really mean here is that "the meek shall inherit the earth"... which would be, of course, your fervent religious beliefs projected onto the facade of a self-serving sociopath.

It is and will continue to remain inconceivable to me that so many people demonstrate little or no capacity for keeping separated their faith, their fantasies, and their actual environment.  I promise you this:  Neither Mr. Huckabee nor any mortal politician can offer your spiritual or economic salvation on this earth.  Furthermore, any politician who successfully represents himself as "the answer" to your prayers has himself a whole lot of experience in the false prophets' game of "Con the True Believers".

I would think that the pious and faithful would have had enough of being conned and exploited by these electoral versions of Elmer Gantry.  I know wide swaths of evangelical Christians have weaned themselves away from the cynical and hypocritical politicians' false promises.  Personally, I have faith that those swaths will grow wider as the light of reason grows brighter.
look here... H I L L A R Y C L I N T O N . C O M
HILLARY IS BACK........ HILLARYCLINTON.COM
Romney hit the nail on the head with the insanely out of control spending going on in Washington right now.  The ONLY one I trust to put us back on track fiscally is Romney.  If you look at Huckabee's record on spending and raising taxes you will be shocked!  Sure don't need any more like him in Washington - in fact let's hope we can kick more of them out the next election cycle.  Enough is enough!  God Bless America!
There is a white cross in the background of Huck's ad that moves behind his head to subliminally associate Huck with Christ. I just had that pointed out to me and I realize now why that ad enraged me on an unconscious level. Talk about dirty tricks!
Insider Advantage never polled the primaries before.

Romney is a desperate man.
For once when the subject of the economy comes up in the White House, I want our President to be the smartest person in the room. For this reason Mitt Romney has my vote.  Wake up Iowa!  To steal a slogan from James Carvel, "It's the economy stupid".  Romney has a proven record in business.  Who better to run the largest business in the world, the USA.  
Wow. I still don't see anything about Obama today...
That's a fine sentiment coming from Mitt, and in a perfect America, all beliefs would be considered valid. But in a fundamentalist, that is not the case. All other belief systems become the focus of pressures that demand they be given up. They are imperfect, like Ann Coulter saying that Jews are imperfect until they accept Jesus. Or the Ayatollah Khomeini saying that only Shia Muslims are perfect, all others, you've got it, imperfect. America is a Democracy, not a Theocracy. Democracy protects all belief systems. Theocracy only protects one.
since energy is on the tip of everyones tongue, maybe someone needs to take a closer look at geo/therman/electric.  it is very clean, available and won't run out.  talk about a greenhouse topic.
Romney cannot win in Iowa.  His savior Joseph Smith was a child molester, a horse thief, and a paligimast who was hung by his neck until he was dead across the border in Illinois.  Mormons are not looked at too favorably in Iowa.  The Huckabee ad is more in line with the views of Iowans.  Iowa is not a state of atheist and cultist (except Marihisi University in Fairfield).  Do not be suprised if Romeny finishes in fourth place.
Huckabee is no liberal, neither is Ron Paul.  They just aren't conservative to a fault.  Nuts maybe, but at least they aren't conservative to a fault.
Hey, PJ.
If Huckabee is elected and institutes his "far tax", which is a high sales tax,  it will hit the middle and lower classes a heck of a lot more then the "Big Money Men".  Think about it, who would a high sales tax hurt more, someone with lots of money to invest or someone who has to spend all of their paycheck.
Go Mitt!
Rich Mitt, I got a news for you. Don't mis-judge the conservatives in SC. I am one of them and I know how to spot real liberals who think that a deep coffer will win an election and negative campaign pays its way. I also know who was an abortion supporters who even does not believe in God the Creator, and who thinks Terri Schiavo deserved to die because her husband no longer wanted to care for her. I am in the elephant party and I have elephant memory. I hope you do too.
I got a news for you. Don't mis-judge the conservatives in SC. I am one of them and I know how to spot real liberals who think that a deep coffer will win an election and negative campaigns pay its way. I also know who was an abortion supporters who even does not believe in God the Creator, and who thinks Terri Schiavo deserved to die because her husband no longer wanted to care for her. I am in the elephant party and I have elephant memory. I hope you do too.
Renown economist, Dr. Laurence Kotlikoff, has stated (9/26/2006),

"Yes I think [the U.S. is bankrupt] because if you look at our long term fiscal obligations and compare them with our tax receipts that are projected to come in, you end up finding the difference in present value is equal to $63 trillion. This is according to an update of a U.S Treasury study. So it is not an academic study but rather a government study.

"To come with $63 trillion in present value, you would have to have an immediate and permanent roughly 70 percent hike in federal corporate and personal income taxes. Alternatively you could immediately double the payroll tax. So we are talking about gargantuan adjustments here, huge problems that we are facing, and a lot of this has to do with the fact that the society is aging. We are currently facing 33 million people over 65. But when the Boomers retire there will be about 77 million people over 65. And we are currently handing out per old person roughly $30,000 on average in Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid benefits. But when the Boomers retire we are going to be paying them a lot higher level of benefits because these benefit levels continue to grow much more rapidly than wages per worker. So think about 77 million Baby Boomers getting roughly $40,000 per head, and you see the magnitude of the problem. We are talking trillions of dollars. $44,000 times 77 million is a very big number. It is in the trillions, A couple trillion dollars a year in obligations. So I do not think it is an exaggeration to say the country is bankrupt."

Kotlikoff sees passing Huck's FairTax as a vehicle to derail economic meltdown: http://snipr.com/meltdowninprogress

And he's not alone: http://snipurl.com/econsopenletter

Huck's opponents represent the status quo: tax shelters for the wealthy, 35,000 lobbyists in Washington who make their living off the tax code, theIRS, and the continuance of burying taxes in higher prices by taxing business income and payrolls.

I'll take Huck, thanks!
Mike Huckabee is no liberal, and Mr. Romney knows it.  People understand what a lie is and they will not take kindly to the ones coming from Mitt.
I think its really cute the way the Republicans infight.  They think that the word liberal is an insult, and they use it generously.  Of course we can't tell WHAT Romney stands for, can we?  He's the KIND of the flip floppers...
Romney should know, he is as far left liberal as the Republican Party has EVER seen.  He ran to the left of Ted Kennedy when he ran for Senate a few years back.
This is the Pot calling the Kettle black.
Rommney is calling Huck a liberal because he did his job as governor.  Example he reduced a girls sentence for meth conviction which was 10 yrs in Ar, 5 years in Rommneys state.  He reduced it and pardonded it where the girl could fet a job, where she is now working in nursing home, i say thats rehab at its best.
Hucks a liberal, and a wild eyed christian firebreather, Bush is an arrogant clown, Mittflip is a cult member, Rudy911 is fading fast, FredFlintstone never woke up, geez, no wonder the rightwingnuts only worry about the dims candidates, theirs really suck...
Read the article again --liberal on crime, liberal on immigration, liberal on spending and liberal on taxes these statements are supported by Huckabee’s record. Importantly, Huckabee is not a fiscal conservative, he is a fiscal liberal.  It does not mean that Huckabee will give less money to "Big Money Men."  In fact, Gov. Huckabee took spending from $6 billion to $16 billion, his incompetence in money will probably benefit Big Money Men the most.  When people are handing out money, the way Huckabee did as Governor, “Big Money Men” are pretty good at getting the biggest cut.  The last thing America needs is a president that will triple the national deficit.  Romney has the business know how to change Washington.  So vote for your “liberal Huckabee,” the candidate that is the best preacher, guitar player, and spendthrift.  I will vote for the one with an actual resume and has a fiscal conservative record.  Both Romney and Huckabee have problems with “liberal” pasts on social issues.  The difference is Romney has acknowledges he was wrong while Huckabee continues to justify himself.  He put 12 murders back on our street and over 1000 tried criminals.  He also had a rapist released who killed a woman after his release.  There is no excuse and no apology from Gov. Huckabee.  Lastly, why should the “less fortunate” citizens of our nation have to compete against illegal immigrants for college scholarships, admissions, and in-state tuition, (money provided by our tax dollars)?  That is what Huckabee recommended as Governor.  Getting into College is competitive enough and money is limited.  I think this shows Huckabee’s great disrespect for the American Tax dollar.  I do not pay taxes to make it harder for my children to go to college.  
I am very concerned particularly about Huckabee's extremely liberal record of pardoning and commutation record as Governor of Arkansas.  In response, Huckabee argued that he received more requests than did Governor Romney and rejected 78 percent of them.   To me, his defense is just as glaring.  If I were a criminal in Arkansas I would definitely appeal to the Governor.  After all the appeal processes that currently exist in our judicial system, under Huckabee, I would still have a twelve percent chance of having my sentence pardoned or commutated.  That might be why Governor Huckabee had to answer so many requests.
Let me re-do that math.  It is a twenty-two percent chance of being pardoned or commutated!
You republicans are toast if this is the best you have to offer.  A theocrat preacher vs a flip flopping one term governor.  Go with Guilliani, or you are toast.
Huckabee needs to suck-it-up and be a man.  He is the only candidate on either side whining about “attack ads.”  Snivel, Snivel, the other candidates are pointing out your blighting flaws.  He needs to stop whimpering about it.  As president, is he going to cry to the UN about “those nasty people” who verbally oppose America?  We need a strong president to represent us, not a weakling.
Romneys real problem. Many people that have been raised as Christians know of the theological clash between evangelical Christians and Mormons. The war has been going on since Joseph Smith broke out of jail and shot people while attempting to escape. Joseph Smith, The Mormon Prophet, had his brainstorm to somehow, cash in on the religious fervor of the day. He tried 'money digging" and went to court over the fraud. Miraculously, in a  vision of an angel appeared to him and taught him how he was to lead the" only true church on earth" because "all other churches are corrupt"  Christians are told ( and I paraphrase) that We are not to respect or believe any gospel that is taught that does not agree with the teachings of a Bible, EVEN IF AN ANGEL OF LIGHT DELIVERS THEM. Christians are not to honor any book that adds , or takes away,from the inspired word of God, the Bible. Mormons believe that the book of Mormon and their other "holy" books are an addendum to the Bible and place them on the same plane as the Bible. Their holy books teach of entire people and civilizations that science has proven have NEVER EXISTED. ( Check with the Smithsonian) While the Bible is used as a historical and geographical guide. Their books promote polygamy, and the inadequate character of people of color to hold high office in the "Priesthood".While many of these doctrines have been changed through "Revelation" (read Their god changed his mind,) our God is unchanging. Joseph Smith taught that people populated the moon and looked like Quakers ( he never figured that we `d get there) The Bible teaches us that if we encounter a "so called prophet his test will be " if he ever utters anything that turns out to be false WE ARE NOT TO RESPECT HIM ". There are many fallacies in this book of fairytale and plagiarism and some are in direct conflict with the teachings of the Bible. This is why many concider Mormonism a non Christian cult and real Christians know that to support such a candidate would be folly and downright sinful. This is the real problem that Mitt Romney faces. All the "pundits" need to realize this. The Presidency calls for good judgement ,faith, and a strong moral and ethical value system. Many people question the judgement of a candidate that can buy into a new religion that flys in the face of traditional Christianity regardless of its historical,theological, and proven fallacious origins.

Romney will win Iowa in part because Huckabee is running as a religious leader.  The vast majority of Americans are uncomfortable with that.  Romney has taken every effort to show the opposite (that he will lead and represent the people, not his religion), which will wind up being the contrast Romney has wanted.  1) Evangelical Preacher with less leadership experience and success versus 2) Experienced Leader with proven success who distances himself from religion as a political tool.  #2 will be the vote getter in this head to head comparison.  Huckabee has other advantages though, and it will be tight.
Huckaboo is SCARY!  I do not want to live under a southern baptist theocracy!  Huckabee boo!! boo!! boo!!
David, You have a load  of misinformation!  Sorry you've swallowed so many untruths about The Church of Jesus Christ  of Latter-day Saints, which you refer to as Mormon.  Why don't you ask a member of the church what they believe and what their history has been?  Are you afraid?
I looove how all you guys bicker back and forth over who is more conservative when it is obvious face that Ron Paul is more conservative then the entire field.  Remember the old GOP, real conservatism.  Look it up.
Hey Mike Huckabee, What Would Jesus Do?

FACT: The ethics commission fined Huckabee $1,000 for failing to report that he paid himself $14,000 from his 1992 U.S. Senate campaign and $43,000 from his 1994 lieutenant governor's campaign.

FACT: Huckabee accepted more than 300 gifts worth at least $130,000, ranging from $3,700 cowboy boots to a $600 chainsaw.

Google: Huckabee rivals unearth ethics complaints (SOURCE: POLITICO Kenneth P. Vogel Nov 21, 2007)
Is Huckabee pandering for the votes of illegal hispanics?

FACT: Mike Huckabee supported in-state higher education benefits for children of illegal immigrants.

FACT: Mike Huckabee opposed a federal raid of 119 illegal immigrants at an Arkansas Tyson poultry plant, 107 of whom left the country either voluntarily or through deportation.

(SOURCE: Melissa Nelson, "Huckabee Risks Political Fortunes To Denounce Immigration Raid," Associated Press, 8/5/05)
Why don't you Southerners quit your whining and stop being such a bunch of cry babies about the Mormons. Ooh, they believe in something different than you, we should hate them and all vote for Huckabee because he goes to our church. What else should I expect from the very states that supported segregation and slavery? I guess some people just never change.
Mike Huckabee's Fair Tax Plan.....

FACT: Mike Huckabee opposed a congressional measure to ban internet taxes in 2003. (Source: Arkansas News Bureau, 11/21/03)

FACT: Mike Huckabee in 2004, he allowed a 17% sales tax increase to become law. (Source: The Gurdon Times, 03/02/04)

FACT: Mike Huckabee’s substantial tax hikes far surpassed his modest tax cuts, with the average tax burden increasing by a whopping 47% over his tenure. (Source: Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 10/09/07)
Are we voting for President or Pope?

Just wondering.
Mike Huckabee was regarded by fellow Republican governors as a compulsive tax increaser and spender. He increased the Arkansas tax burden by 47 percent, boosting the levies on gasoline and cigarettes.   The Arkansas Leader.com editorialized that Mike Huckabee raised more taxes in 10 years in office than Bill Clinton did in his 12 years.

The National Education Association endorses any candidate who raises taxes and opposes school choice – thus they endorse Mike Huckabee.

Huckabee “broadly repudiates core Republican policies such as free trade, low taxes, the essential legitimacy of America’s corporate entities and the market system allocating wealth and opportunity,” according to  George Will.

The Arkansas Ethics Commission held proceedings 20 times on the former governor. During his tenure, Huckabee accepted 314 gifts valued overall at more than $150,000, according to documents filed with the Arkansas secretary of state's office. (He accepted 187 gifts in his first three years as governor but was not required to report their value.)


Two months after taking office, Huckabee stunned the state by saying he questioned rapist Wayne DuMond's guilt and that it was his intention to free the rapist,  DuMond murdered a women in Illinois after Huckabee set him free

Huckabee battled conservatives within his own party who were pushing for stricter state-level immigration measures, such as:.
-  proof of legal status when applying for state services that aren’t federally mandated
-  proof of citizenship when registering to vote
-  Huckabee failed in his effort to make children of illegal immigrants eligible for state-funded scholarships and in-state tuition to Arkansas colleges.

He joined the Democratic chorus in indicting President Bush for his "arrogant bunker mentality."  Is he in the right party?

Huck’s use of the “Christian Leader” title and the Cross in his ads and his attempt to denigrate Mitt Romney’s religion is a thinly-veiled attempt to impose a religious test in violation of Article Six of the Constitution

The Huckster was the keynote speaker at an anti-Mormon conference in Salt Lake City.  And he knows nothing about Mormons?  And the "Christian Leader" doesn't want to release his sermons?

Mike fails on so many levels as a true conservative.

The moniker "Huckster" is well-earned.
Mike Huckabee was regarded by fellow Republican governors as a compulsive tax increaser and spender. He increased the Arkansas tax burden by 47 percent, boosting the levies on gasoline and cigarettes.   The Arkansas Leader.com editorialized that Mike Huckabee raised more taxes in 10 years in office than Bill Clinton did in his 12 years.

The National Education Association endorses any candidate who raises taxes and opposes school choice – thus they endorse Mike Huckabee.

Huckabee “broadly repudiates core Republican policies such as free trade, low taxes, the essential legitimacy of America’s corporate entities and the market system allocating wealth and opportunity,” according to  George Will.

The Arkansas Ethics Commission held proceedings 20 times on the former governor. During his tenure, Huckabee accepted 314 gifts valued overall at more than $150,000, according to documents filed with the Arkansas secretary of state's office. (He accepted 187 gifts in his first three years as governor but was not required to report their value.)


Two months after taking office, Huckabee stunned the state by saying he questioned rapist Wayne DuMond's guilt and that it was his intention to free the rapist,  DuMond murdered a women in Illinois after Huckabee set him free

Huckabee battled conservatives within his own party who were pushing for stricter state-level immigration measures, such as:.
-  proof of legal status when applying for state services that aren’t federally mandated
-  proof of citizenship when registering to vote
-  Huckabee failed in his effort to make children of illegal immigrants eligible for state-funded scholarships and in-state tuition to Arkansas colleges.

He joined the Democratic chorus in indicting President Bush for his "arrogant bunker mentality."  Is he in the right party?

Huck’s use of the “Christian Leader” title and the Cross in his ads and his attempt to denigrate Mitt Romney’s religion is a thinly-veiled attempt to impose a religious test in violation of Article Six of the Constitution

The Huckster was the keynote speaker at an anti-Mormon conference in Salt Lake City.  And he knows nothing about Mormons?  And the "Christian Leader" doesn't want to release his sermons?

Mike fails on so many levels as a true conservative.

The moniker "Huckster" is well-earned.
When people post "facts" in these blogs, they should put sources.  Foot note it.  Otherwise, they're just blowing steam.  If you want to convince me, then show me the money.  At least, "Anthony," from California hyperlinked to photos of Romney's and and Huckabee's families, LOL!  He stated a bunch of other stuff in there with no sources, though, so he might as well have pulled that from his rectum and handed it to me.


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