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Oh-eight (D): Clinton Inc. v. 'present'

Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:13 AM by Mark Murray
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A CBS poll in South Carolina shows Obama and Clinton in a statistical dead heat. The numbers: Obama 35%, Clinton 34%, Edwards 13%.

BIDEN: The Los Angeles Times has a nice story about an incredibly loyal Iowa foot soldier for Biden, who was with him in 1987 and has never wavered since.

CLINTON: The LA Times also looks at how Clinton is trying to define Obama. "Clinton doesn't tell Iowa voters that in his younger days, her chief rival for the Democratic nomination behaved badly. She never lays out incidents from Sen. Barack Obama's past that could be exploited in a general election contest; doing so might be considered an unseemly personal attack. But with the Iowa caucuses just two weeks away, she is sidling up to that fine line -- and, in some cases, her campaign surrogates are fleshing out what the candidate leaves unsaid."

Interestingly, Bob Kerrey sent a letter to Obama apologizing for over-bringing up the Muslim stuff. “Kerrey told The Associated Press in a telephone interview that he sent the letter on his own and had not spoken to Clinton or her campaign about the comments he made Sunday in Iowa. ‘What I found myself getting into in Iowa - and it was my own fault - it was the wrong moment to do it and it was insulting,’ Kerrey told the AP. ‘I meant no disrespect at all.’ Obama spokesman Bill Burton said the senator accepted Kerrey's apology, sent to the campaign in the mail and via e-mail.

Is there any New York Times byline the campaign fears more than Don Van Natta?  Well, there's one today (although it probably goes down easier since the paper also front-pages the Obama "present" story today). "The New York Times has compiled the first comprehensive list of 97 donors who gave or pledged a total of $69 million for the Clinton presidential library in the final years of the Clinton administration. The examination found that while some $1 million contributors were longtime Clinton friends, others were seeking policy changes from the administration. Two pledged $1 million each while they or their companies were under investigation by the Justice Department.”

“Other donations came from supporters who had been ensnared in campaign finance scandals surrounding Mr. Clinton’s 1996 re-election campaign. In raising record sums for her campaign, Mrs. Clinton has tapped many of the foundation’s donors. At least two dozen have become  ‘Hillraisers,’ each bundling $100,000 or more for her presidential bid. The early library donors, combined with their families and political action committees, have contributed at least $784,000 to Mrs. Clinton’s Senate and presidential coffers."

More: “As the scope of the foundation expanded from the Clinton library into issues like treating AIDS in the developing world and addressing global poverty and climate change, and Mrs. Clinton moved closer to announcing her candidacy, the pace of giving quickened. Last year, contributions reached $135 million, a 70 percent increase over the previous year. Two-thirds came from just 11 donors."

Clinton makes a pre-Christmas push in New Hampshire with a "Working for Change, Working for You" tour.

Don’t cry for me… “Clinton twice wiped her eye at a campaign event in Elkader after getting an emotional introduction by Joe Ward, a constituent. She helped get his insurance company to cover a costly bone-marrow transplant for his son,” the New York Post writes. “No way,” though was the response from Howard Wolfson, Clinton’s spokesman on whether or not Clinton cried.

Here's one of those campaign promises that would have gotten Al Gore in trouble in 2000. “Clinton predicted that when she mentions in her inaugural address, ‘particularly the oil-producing countries, “We’re not going to be taken for a ride any longer. We’re going to stand up and say enough,” ... when I say that, those countries will know because they follow our elections, they follow what we do in our politics as closely as we do, they’ll know that I always try to do what I say.’” Clinton predicted those words would cause the price of oil to suddenly drop, to $60 or $70 a barrel.

In the upcoming New York Times magazine, Matt Bai writes about how Clinton's campaign is a referendum of sorts on Bill Clinton's presidency. "Aside from a few partisans on each end of the spectrum, there aren’t neatly delineated camps on this question, with Clinton lovers on one side and critics on the other. Rather, a lot of Democrats seem genuinely conflicted, on practically an existential level, when it comes to Clinton. They almost uniformly admire the former president; 82 percent of Democrats polled by Fox News in November had a favorable opinion of Clinton, and, in a New York Times poll released earlier this month, 44 percent of Democratic voters said they were more inclined to support Hillary’s candidacy because of him. And yet, they regard with suspicion, if not outright resentment, the centrist forces he helped unleash on the party. They might love Bill Clinton, but they loathe Clintonism. And it is this conflict that has, in recent weeks, become a subtle but important theme of the 2008 campaign.”

EDWARDS: The New York Post reports, “A round of biased ‘push-polling’ that rips Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama - but touts John Edwards - has reportedly hit Iowa Democratic caucus-goers just two weeks before the voting starts there.”

OBAMA: The candidate will be holding a New Hampshire event today with independent voters, hoping to remind folks of his current strength with indies in both national and state polls.

The New York Times examines Obama's voting record in the Illinois state senate, and finds that he voted "present" on a lot of issues, including some very sensitive ones. Obviously, this is an opportunity for the Clinton camp to paint Obama as indecisive and afraid of taking on tough issues, but as the article notes, the voting record is quite nuanced. 

The Times: "Although a present vote is not unusual in Illinois, Mr. Obama’s use of it is being raised as he tries to distinguish himself as a leader who will take on the tough issues, even if it means telling people the ‘hard truths’ they do not want to hear. Obama’s aides and some allies dispute the characterization that a present vote is tantamount to ducking an issue. They said Mr. Obama cast 4,000 votes in the Illinois Senate and used the present vote to protest bills that he believed had been drafted unconstitutionally or as part of a broader legislative strategy."

An examination of Illinois records shows at least 36 times when Mr. Obama was either the only state senator to vote present or was part of a group of six or fewer to vote that way. In more than 50 votes, he seemed to be acting in concert with other Democrats as part of a strategy… In Illinois, political experts say voting present is a relatively common way for lawmakers to express disapproval of a measure. It can at times help avoid running the risks of voting no, they add."

The big example the NYT uses to show Obama using a "present" vote to duck an issue was on a juvenile justice bill. "The vote on the juvenile-justice bill appears to be a case when Mr. Obama, who represented a racially mixed district on the South Side of Chicago, faced pressure. It also occurred about six months before he announced an ultimately unsuccessful campaign against a popular black congressman, Bobby L. Rush."

The Hill finds that at least three Obama aides "were registered lobbyists for dozens of corporations, including Wal-Mart, British Petroleum and Lockheed Martin, while they received payments from his campaign, according to public documents… While many lobbyists are planning to travel to Iowa and New Hampshire after Christmas to stump for their favored candidates, others have taken more committed roles. At least 40 current and former lobbyists have received payments from top-tier presidential campaigns, according to public records that show K Street’s infiltration in the race and offer hints about who may wield influence in the next administration."

New Hampshire’s Portsmouth Herald endorses Obama.

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"I have no problem with employing these sorts of strategies at all.  The problem I see is that this makes Obama a political game player as much as any of the other candidates.  His entire campaign is based on the notion of change...particularly changing the way things are done in Washington.  But yet throughout his career, he has played the game just like everyone else."

Carrie,

The present vote thing is a red herring in my opinion. Senator Obama has proven himself to be a savvy politician and a worthy opponent. He wouldn't be where he is today without some political skill. I don't see that as a liability.

It is ironic that the primary tactic being used by  Senator Obama's opponents is basically "See he is just as bad as us." What a commentary on modern politics.
if a bill comes to a vote and it has aspects of it that need to be worked on, made more in line with the constitution or needs amendments saying present or abstaining is a strategic tactic to hold that bill for further review.

in some cases it is the best thing to do rather than let a bill that is not all bad, nor all good be killed. a bill may just need adjustments or have language in it that is hurtful to who a representative reresents. in such a case it would be best to try and hold that bill for negotiations rather than vote no and kill it.

if anyone is interested they can research what each candidate has done on a bill and why. i have found that hillary, edwards (in his 4 years in the senate), biden, dodd and others have a long list of present or abstains. the reasoning for this is the bills need further work.

in politics a campaign can twist it because people don't know how the rules work just the same as some people play checkers and some people play chess. it isn't as simple as it is being put out there.
Go down to $60 a barrel. Try go up to $120 a barrel.
Barack Obama voted present less than 4% of the time
while serving in Illinois. That's pretty low.  

Now moving up to 2007.

Do you agree with Obama's proposed U.S. Senate legislation regarding contractors.  

Friday, December 14, 2007
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Contact: Jesse Broder Van Dyke (Akaka), Michael Ortiz (Obama), or Aaron Murphy (Tester)


Washington, DC – U.S. Senators Daniel K. Akaka (D-HI), Barack Obama (D-IL), and Jon Tester (D-MT) today sent letters to the Attorney General, and the Inspector Generals of the Defense and State Departments, seeking information about their apparent failure to investigate allegations made by former Halliburton/KBR administrative assistant Jamie Leigh Jones that she was drugged and raped by several co-workers while employed at Camp Hope in Baghdad, Iraq.

The alleged assault occurred in July 2005, three days after KBR had transferred Ms. Jones to work in Iraq. Ms. Jones was treated at a U.S. Army Hospital in Iraq after reporting that she was raped. According to recent news reports, no criminal charges have been filed in the matter and reporters have been unable to confirm that any federal agency is investigating.

“With tens of thousands of American contractors operating in Iraq, we will not tolerate abuse and misconduct, and these contractors must be held accountable to American criminal law,” said Senator Obama. “I first introduced legislation nearly 10 months ago to hold contractors accountable, and I will continue to work to develop a solution that closes the legal loopholes, protects our troops and civilians, and promotes America’s values.”

http://obama.senate.gov/press/071214-obama_akaka_tes/
Carrie,

I thought you are a lawyer? I guess you don't know the difference between a political strategy that get things done and a strategy that is polarizing.

I wish the current democratic congress can learn from Obama; perhaps, they would have done a lot rather than been useless.  I'd rather stick with the Obama's strategy rather than Clinton's strategy of polarization.

Obama's strategy will win independent and Republican over. He is more pragmatic than your candidate who thinks the post of President should be ascribed to her.

Quit your talking point and focus on how to help Democratic Party win election next year. As for me and my house we've decided to cast our votes against the Clintons in both Primary and General election if need be.
I also thought that Senator Clinton's comments on how her election and inaugural address would cause oil prices to come down was a bit of a stretch. For some one who doesn't want to be pinned down to specifics promises, I was very surprised that she made those comments-- unless she has been in contact with leaders of oil producing countries and has some information not commonly known. Possible, I guess.
Dot, Illinois
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The comment was not a stretch. We all know how the Clintons dine and whine with the Saudis.

FYI: The Clinton's presidential library contain some donors that have business dealing in Saudi Arabia, and other Oil producing states. I am pretty sure Bill Clinton is among the "Click" that price gauge oil market. That is the reason why he won't release his tax return.

A vote for Clinton is a vote for George Bush and his cronies. It is a vote to destroy the Democratic Party.
Kenn: yeah. Our nation is so ''ruined''that its GDP shot up to 4.9% this year. One of the best performances of the decade. Then we find out that CO2 under Bush [despite all of the hot air from DC],has been diminishing despite not having signed KYOTO,[while EU carbon releases head north,despite having signed KYOTO],330,000 fewer Americans in a period usually marked by layoffs were on unemployment,creating a solid 4.4-4.5% national unemployment rate which has never been bested even by Democrats this side of WWII,Iraq is doing well enough that it was dropped from American ''key concerns'' in the top slot to be replaced by domestic issues,nobody talks ''Iran''anymore,[let alone ''invasion''],gas prices are falling[Iraqs first new oil tanker in 27 years sets sail this week],Bush signs the most comprehensive fuel-efficiency bill in decades,displaying firm bi-partisanship in at least this area,while the media either at turns ignores or agonizes over Edwards alleged infidelity,Hillarys deadbeat brother,Spears The Youngers pregnancy,Bills off-go-the-wheels-on-the-wagon performance recently on Charlie Rose,and Obama-As-Muslim.[such bromides invented not by the GOP,but the ''tolerant''faces of the Democrat Party lead by Bob Kerry].
clinton campaign launches two websites solely for the purpose of smearing barack obama using words such as cowardly.

dirty politics-dirty politicians
As a black person living in America, I am very aware of a fact that all of you "pie in the sky", pipe-dreaming liberals seem to want to ignore: The U.S. electorate is not moved by the power of your good intentions! While Obama is polling very well, the simple truth is this: A majority of the people who agree to vote for Obama on a phone call from a pollster will NOT actually vote for him in the private confines of the voting booth. I don't know if that's racism or what, but I think you people need to wake up and smell the coffee.
There you go again J. Merle, dissing the Independent's at every opportunity you get. Experience matter's you & Hillary & her supporter's have said all along. well here's a quote from the latest Hillary endorser. Sen Kerrey said yesterday""I answered a question about your qualifications to be president in a way that has been interpreted as a backhanded insult of you. I assure you I meant to do just the opposite," Kerrey wrote.

He went on to say he considers Obama one of the most talented people he's met in politics and "exceptionally qualified by experience and judgment to be president of the United States." He expanded on Obama's potential to bring peace to the world and his capacity to inspire hope - high praise for someone backing Obama's top rival.
In case you want to scroll past this line, i'll put in caps for you.EXCEPTIONLY QUALIFIED BY EXPERIENCE AND JUDGEMENT TO BE POTUS. No doubt all you hillary supporter's can find something wrong with this statement, so be it.


" DELUSIONAL THINKING BY COMMON SENSE AMERICAN'S IS OVER "
No matter how you slice it, Obama's "present" votes are tantamount to him playing the same game of "triangulation" that he claims is being played by Hillary. I don't understand how when she makes votes based on principle and on her formidable political acumen she is characterized as being "disingenuous". But when he does it, somehow it becomes an example of his somehow rising above politics. You've all had your heads in the ground for far too long. Hillary is the only mainstream candidate in the democratic field who is being attacked for actually showing some GUTS. For example, all you liberal far left-wingers spent the entire summer trying to get her to call her Iraq vote a mistake, and attacking her because she wouldn't. This is exactly what is wrong with the democratic party. Instead of attacking the republicans and the white house for LYING TO US TO GET US TO GO TO IRAQ, you decide to attack Hillary for being misled. Instead of realizing that an Obama candidacy GUARANTEES a republican presidency for at least another 4 years, you people claim to want to vote for "change". Tell me: exactly how many right-wingers do you think will cross the line and vote for Obama? Definitely not enough to beat the spread by which the republicans continue to steal our elections. So, here we go again. Looks like their gonna steal it in '08 again.
BIDEN.
BIDEN.
BIDEN.

I am tired of arguing and pulling my hair out but can't and won't give up on Joe so ...


BIDEN.
BIDEN.
BIDEN. Just listen to him.
Kelly:

Those are the arguments that Bush used to get elected in 2000.  Are you sure you want to go there?

Aside from which, the present votes illustrate that he is willing to sacrifice his beliefs to vote in accordance with the strategy of an interest group.  That defines exactly what he claims he wants to change.  I really don't understand why Obama supporters have such a difficult time seeing the inherent contradiction that lies between his votes in the IL senate and his campaign message of changing the way politics works.
When Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., voted "present," rather than "yes" or "no" on a handful of controversial abortion votes in the Illinois state senate, he did so with the explicit support of the president and CEO of Illinois Planned Parenthood Council.

"We at Planned Parenthood view those as leadership votes," Pam Sutherland, the president and CEO of the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council, told ABC News. "We worked with him specifically on his strategy. The Republicans were in control of the Illinois Senate at the time. They loved to hold votes on 'partial birth' and 'born alive'. They put these bills out all the time . . . because they wanted to pigeonhole Democrats."

Sutherland said Obama approached her in the late 1990s and worked with her and others in crafting the strategy of voting "present." She remembers meeting with Obama outside of the Illinois Senate chambers on the Democratic side of the aisle. She and Obama finished their conversation in his office.

"He came to me and said: 'My members are being attacked. We need to figure out a way to protect members and to protect women,'" said Sutherland in recounting her conversation with Obama. "A 'present' vote was hard to pigeonhole which is exactly what Obama wanted."

"What it did," she continued, "was give cover to moderate Democrats who wanted to vote with us but were afraid to do so" because of how their votes would be used against them electorally. "A 'present' vote would protect them. Your senator voted 'present.' Most of the electorate is not going to know what that means."

Unlike Senator Clinton who could care less about fellow Democrats, or "down ticket" candidates (and for those that don't know what "down ticket" means, it is candidates for office that are running for state legislative positions, or Governor, or Senator, not for President, thereby being "down ticket") Senator Obama was seeking to protect other Democratic state legislators from being boxed into corners the Republicans wanted to force them.  The "Present" votes were just that.

Carrie from Iowa, we're still waiting on all these thing's that make you caucus for Joe Biden.You're nothing but a shill for Hillary, saying you're for biden. We've seen thru you. BTW, take Extra-strength Midol the next time. Good lord.


" DELUSIONAL THINKING BY COMMON SENSE AMERICAN'S IS OVER"
I don't have a problem with Hillary raising the issue.  In fact, I have not had a problem with any of her attacks in theory.  The problem is THEY DON'T STICK!

Obama's present votes, as told by himself, other Illinois politicians flat out were NOT a sign of weakness.

I charge Hillary's campaign to present a compelling example where Obama did waffle.  A case where there wasn't good reason to vote present other than ducking an issue.  I hope people are smart enough to do their research on this.  If Obama loose then fine, but not because of this.
Honestly, this is what upsets me the most about Hillary's campaign.  Their attacks never stick, and it makes them look like political rookies.  I want to support Hillary, but she has to give me reason to.
Obama not a doer?  4000 votes in the Illinois senate= not a doer?  As usual, the Clinton attempt to make Obama look bad just gives the electorate more information about his experience and his intelligent politics.  
"Tricks of the trade" ,AKA, Washington EXPERIENCE.  Notice how often Hillary boasts of experience and she usually clarifies her meaning by saying, "I know how to win!"  Witness her camp's tactics against Obama.

Politics is a sport and Barack is my Tiger Woods; he knows this game,(his game).  The Clinton camp certainly knows how to place "traps" and they will place them as prolifically as possible to take this man off of his game.

If Barack is as prepared as I believe he is to; manage his campaign, withstand the torrential bombardment of distorted facts, fight back when he must, and continue to present himself as presidential as he did in the last debate, he will have met my test as a leader of substance.  In fact, as he overcomes these "Clintonian" obstacles it should provide, to all of us, insight to this mans ability to, like Tiger Woods, remain focused, get to his goal, and with grace, smile and continue on to the next victory!

Essentially, the more the Clinton camp comes after him, the stronger they will make him; they will be the impetus for his continued rise because their attacks remind us of how (experienced) Washington politicians do their dirt and filth; they will remind us that if we elect them, we give them a mandate to continue the, "crap."  Witness how from day-one, the republican presidential candidates and yes, the media, have been chanting, "we want hillary" they too are thristy for the "mud-slinging" to begin.

I suggest that, for the good of our country and this process, we put an end to this way of choosing our leader.  We must raise our capacity to do better and show some civility in our process to the rest of the world.

We need a change and that,in the person of someone we can believe in.  Barack inspires me to believe in a better America and I trust he IS the Change we call all believe in.
Every acts like Obama is the second coming of Jesus Christ:  Yo, people, he is flawed.

And trust me, if he does lose the demo nomination, it wouldn't surprise me to see him run as an Independent.

Why?  Because he lacks the essence of the presidency:  loyalty.
Why is everyone so shook up at MRS Clinton?She is only doing what all canidates do.She is no worse than the rest wanting to run for President.I for one will vote for her.We have had men Presidents for the last 200 yrs.Surely A women can do as good or better.I think it's time to find out.I am 70 yrs old and have seen lots of Presidents come and go and not one Republican President has done to much for our Country.The Rich get Richer and the Poor get Poorer.


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