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Romney's second anti-Huck ad

Posted: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:28 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ’s Erin McPike and NBC’s Lauren Appelbaum
LE MARS, Iowa -- On the same day the Romney campaign releases a contrast ad with McCain, he is up with another, similarly structured ad contrasting himself with Huckabee. Similar to the McCain ad, an announcer speaks over ominous music, attacking Huckabee on being "soft on government spending" and "1033 pardons and commutations."

Then another announcer, above hopeful music, touts Romney's accomplishments and depicts him as a traditional, hard-nosed Republican. "Mitt Romney held spending down, below inflation. Cut taxes. Zero pardons. The difference? Strong leadership?"

The ad also lambastes Huckabee for supporting in-state tuition for the children of illegal immigrants and granting more than 1,000 pardons and commutations as governor.
 
But the spot takes one other swipe at Huckabee on a matter that is of resurging importance in light of recent events on the international stage with the following target: "His foreign policy?  'Ludicrous,' says Condoleezza Rice.”
 
What’s interesting about that, however, is that there is actually no contrast on foreign matters offered in the ad. And in the campaign’s press release announcing the commercial, there’s no backup that bolsters Romney on the issue. Romney hasn’t been invoking Huckabee’s name on the stump today in Iowa, however.
 
The McCain and Romney campaigns worked through e-mails to reporters during the day, dueling about which camp is more on the attack with their media strategies.

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Are people still paying attetion to Romney?
no
Of course people are still paying attention--he's the most qualified Republican and most able to turn this country around.

Go Mitt!
neither deserve our vote---they will say anything to pander to whomever they are speaking to.These candidates have multiple personalities and you never know who you will get on any given day.I would not trust romney to tell the truth about anything.Mccain just loves to send our military into country after country for useless death and murder,and Huck is just another tv evangelist
Of course!! Who isn't.  He has had the best and most consistant record since the beginning.  He is the toughest competition that is out there with the most cleanly and most thoroughly run campaign.  He's a serious and successful leader.
Aaron, Annapolis, MD: You are joking on the "most consistent record" right? Do I need to remind you of him saying he would be a stronger advocate for gay rights than Ted Kennedy - or ran as a pro choice governor - was for stem cell, now is against them. If that is consistent, I am lost.
Does Romney believe in the Trinity?  If he does not believe in a basic Biblical value such as this, then where does he stand for the last five years on many core values that Christians hold dear?
Mitt's money, boots on the ground and strategic planning, and money, will gain him victory in Iowa and NH and then the nomination. He promised the people of MA collectively and individually in some cases that he would defend a woman's right to abortion, that he supported gun control, and that he would be an active advocate of gay rights. Now he is promising to defend the exact opposite. If anyone wants to believe Romney now, God help this nation. A frighteningly soulless flipfloppin' chameleon who is only concerned with his wealthy buddies, his coreligionists, and the conservatives and evangelicals he is pandering to and making promises to. He is crass and self serving, and cares very little for ordinary people. I wouldn't trust Mitt Romney as far as I can through him. A wealthy, snooty weasel.
I don’t care if Mitt Romney has changed his mind. If that helped him to graduate 'Suma Cum Laude' from Harvard, solve the 2002 Olympics problem, fix Massachussetes healthcare and reform it’s taxes, then it sounds like whatever he’s doing is working. If he’s fixed everything he’s touched before, then I can only expect that he has the best shot at fixing the problems in Washington as President. If people are so shallow to vote for a guy because he has great one-liners about Jesus, and likes to go hunting, then we're in some serious trouble as a nation.
You can joke how you want, but these ads work. They are well crafted, not coming off as attack ads. It is funny too because they are generally on issues where Romney has lived up to what he says.

I can name random names by the hundreds of thousands who listen to nothing Romney has to say... doesn't even begin to count all of the people who are actually interested in politics who don't listen to him either, in reference to Aaron's question as to who doesn't support Romney. Being the "best" candidate out of a horrible choice of GOP potential nominees doesn't make him a good choice, let alone the best choice.
It’s who will remove the “For Sale” sign from the White House stupid, not who has the most foreign policy credentials!
We in Iowa will not likely be persuaded by negative ads alone.  You can't beat something with nothing.  Romney offers nothing but half-truths.
Romney has no core beliefs or vision.  His robotic style, history of flip-flopping and dishonest rhetoric make him unelectable.
so 38 year marriage, raised 5 successful sons, sticks by his religeon even though its a political liability, yup, no core beliefs at all.   Besides, why would anyone want the one man with the education, and experience to actually balance the budget, fix the trade deficit, save social security, grow the economy, and fix health care, all without raising taxes.   Wake up people, Romney may be the single best candidate this country has ever seen.  certainly one of the most intelligent.  He is not perfect, he is the first to admit that.  But he is awsome.  
David - Oregon City, you just posted that same comment on the story about Huckabee's abysmal foreign policy over on CNN. You are merely trying to cover up his mistakes. It's unfortunate that you hitched your star to his wagon. But let me tell you, that wagon isn't going to get far.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/28/huckabee-staffer-he-needs-to-be-briefed-on-pakistan/#comments

And as far as Romney changing his mind on an issue, since when is it wrong to change course? Doesn't America need to change course now? Don't we need someone who can work through the issues and come up with practical solutions to big problems. That's not flip-flopping, that's responsibility and true leadership. Something we have been sorely lacking. Of course if want to keep the status quo in Washington then by all means, vote for the next guy.

And for anyone who thinks Romney flip-flops, you don't know the definition of the word.

From Wikipedia -  A "flip-flop" (used mostly in the United States) or a U-turn (used in the United Kingdom) is a sudden real or apparent change of policy or opinion, while trying to claim that both positions are consistent with each other. Usually it will occur during the period prior to an election in order to maximize the candidate's popularity.
(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip-flop_%28politics%29)

The real flip-flop artist here is Mike Huckabee - here's proof:

Flip-flopped on immigration
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200712/POL20071204b.html

Flip-flopped on taxes
http://www.taxhikemike.org/

Flip-flopped on cuba
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-huckabee11dec11,0,5055587.story?coll=la-home-center

Flip-flopped on his own degree (technically it was a lie)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59222

Flip-flopped on foreign affairs (didn't even know Pakistan was no longer under martial law, yet claimed he was consistent)
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/27/critics-jump-on-huckabee-pakistan-gaffe/

Flip-flopped on abortion (states rights vs. federal rights)
http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2007/11/mike_huckabee_for_states_right.aspx

As was stated above, the definition means to have two different stances on an issue while saying that your position has not changed. That was NOT what Romney did when it comes to abortion. He readily acknowledges that there was a difference. This was not political expediency, but him working through a tough issue. Frankly I wish more people had his change of heart.

Mark, York, PA, you're just jealous cause he looks better than you. Got Mitt envy?
Kenny Merriken--
In response to your question about the "Trinity," Romney claims he believes in God, Jesus and the Bible. As with other things Romney has claimed, as long as he believes what he says, it must be true--or if LDS prophet/s, Brethren, or scriptures say it, it must be believed (by LDS).

LDS have assumed many names/words/phrases from the Bible, Judaism, Christianity, with absolutely different meanings. LDS teach the "Trinity" is 3 separate and distinct gods. LDS are POLYTHEISTS, believing there are many gods (eg Abraham 4, [LDS]Pearl of Great Price).

THE LDS-God is "MAN" of flesh and bones, as tangible as any man's, with many wives--and LDS men may become gods (eg Moses 6:57, 7:35; LDS Doctrine and Covenants 130:22; 132).

THE LDS-JESUS,CHRIST --IS-- "SPIRIT-BROTHER OF LUCIFER," his name is "AHMAN." (eg Moses 5:13, [LDS]Gospel Principles,revised 1979,ch.3, and throughout LDS teachings; Doctrine and Covenants 78:20, 95:17).

LDS teach, THE BIBLE could Scarcely guide LDS for 24 hours--LDS have living oracles. A "FOOL" claims to have a Bible and need no "more" Bible. CHRISTIAN GOD IS LDS DEVIL. CHRISTIANITY WAS HATCHED IN HELL. (LDS Journal of Discourses,vol.9, p.324; Book of Mormon, 2Nephi 29:6; Journal of Discourses,vol.5, p.331; vol.6, p.176).

This is the kind of deception Romney delivers. NO clarification, for all who know no better, who might be swayed by his religious claims, whether this is the right way to vote or not.

Some good sites with true information concerning LDS are: http://www.utlm.org   and   http://www.beyondmormonism.com

Both of these sites have documented teachings of LDS with many excellent resources and links (I know, LDS might not think so, because LDS will label them/me "anti"-LDS-Mormon, as they label anyone who openly disagrees with any LDS teaching. I have dear family and friends who are LDS, who, according to temple-oaths, must refuse to associate with me, if/when they learn I have shared LDS teachings and "Deep Doctrine"--not readily shared with outsiders and/or new-prospective converts. (an interesting side-note: LDS seek to "convert" Christians and "save" the dead).

It is "LDS POLITICS" we need to beware:

LDS is a "SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT" and will GOVERN AND CONTROL the earth and its inhabitants (eg Journal of Discourses, vol.10, p.320).

This LDS organization is a SECRET GOVERNMENT, NOT RESPONSIBLE TO THE GOVERNED, BUT ONLY TO LDS ECCLESIASTICAL AUTHORITY, WHICH AUTHORITY WILL USHER IN BENIGN RULE FOR ALL PEOPLE, WITHOUT ELECTION. ("Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought," Summer 1966, pp.46-47).

The time's coming, Anyone not heartily for LDS-God WILL BE HEWN DOWN (eg Journal of Discourses,vol.3, p.226).

LDS WILL GOVERN ALL PEOPLE RELIGIOUSLY AND POLITICALLY (eg Journal of Discourses,vol.11, p.53).

LDS confidently look forward to the day THEY WILL HOLD THE REINS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT...then they expect to control the continent (eg American Universal Encyclopedia, p.219).

Sooner or later ALL NATIONS WILL BOW TO THE LDS 'KINGDOM,' ALL HELL CANNOT HELP IT (eg Journal of Discourses,vol.7. p.170).

LDS "Warriors" are to reveal not, while they carefully gather, as many in one region as possible--finding FAVOR with the people--UNTIL the ARMY OF (LDS)ISRAEL becomes very great--HELD GUILTLESS--to throw down and scatter--terrible to ALL Nations, to CONSTRAIN the kingdoms of the world to acknowledge the kingdom of (LDS)ZION, of its God.
THIS IS CURRENT LDS DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS, 105:23-32).

DOES ROMNEY THINK RADICAL ISLAM WILL NOT READ/HAVE NOT ALREADY READ, THIS THREAT UPON THE NATIONS IN THE NAMES OF "ISRAEL" AND "ZION" ???  THEY WON'T CARE THAT LDS ASSUME BIBLICAL/JUDAIC/CHRISTIAN WORDS,NAMES,PHRASES. IT WON'T MATTER TO THEM. THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF MANY. ROMNEY IS A VERY SELFISH MAN TO TRY TO BE OUR PRESIDENT WITH SO MUCH TURMOIL ALREADY, BECAUSE OF SUCH IDEALS. OF COURSE HE DOESN'T WANT THE MONEY. HE IS AFTER THE POWER. ARE WE CERTAIN THIS IS THE MAN WE WANT TO BE OUR NEXT "COMMANDER IN CHIEF?"

Former President, Bill Clinton, not so long ago, warned: we need to BEWARE THE DANGER OF ANY P0LITICAL GROUP POSING AS RELIGION.

Of course Romney won't answer questions. Besides his oath, sworn on his life, to NEVER divulge the inner-workings of this organization, ROMNEY HIDES HIS POLITICS BEHIND THE WORD "RELIGION," while he drives his practiced hard-sell to the American voters, whatever he has to say/pay.

So now I will be called a 'bigot' (which I am not, look up the word, it isn't me--'intolerant', a 'lunatic'--again, it isn't me--'paranoid'--not me, 'Un-American.' (Give me the Apple Pie) I'm just a messenger. I bring references, so voters can look up, for themselves, LDS doctrine/laws.

LDS scripture, STILL, today, demands: THE LAW OF LDS-God, regarding the AFRICAN RACE is: if ANY WHITE MAN OF THE CHOSEN RACE mixes his blood, it is DEATH ON THE SPOT. THIS WILL ALWAYS BE SO. THE CURSE AND THE MARK OF FLAT NOSE AND DARK SKIN will remain on them until all other children of Adam have resurrected from the dead (eg Journal of Discourses,vol.10,p.110; vol.7,pp.290-291; vol.2,p143; vol.11,p.272).

Now, WHO is the "religious bigot" ??
ROMNEY DECLARES HE IS PROUD OF HIS 'RELIGION' AND WILL NOT DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM IT.

BIGOT: "One obstinately and unreasonably wedded to a particular belief or creed" (courtesy of: Webster's Large Print Dictionary, 1994 Edition).

There are still LDS who have sworn, on their lives, and taught their children and children's children, as required of the LDS OATH OF VENGENCE AGAINST THE UNITED STATE'S GOVERNMENT in which they swear on their lives, with also an oath of fidelity and secrecy, to:
AVENGE THE DEATH OF JOSEPH SMITH (who, by the way, was slain by a mob of disgruntled LDS and local citizens, after Smith led in the destruction of a printing press and newspaper (the Nauvoo Expositor) which had published 'the many women' of the LDS prophet and LDS leaders, and other inner-workings/misgivings of this organization. He was jailed and charged with treason.
THIS OATH ALSO DEMANDS:
TO BEAR ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO--
TO RENOUNCE ALL ALLEGIANCE EVER HELD TO--
BEING HELD ABSOLVED OF ALL OATHS OF FEALTY, PAST OR FUTURE, EVER MADE TO--
TO DO ALL IN THEIR POWER TOWARD THE OVERTHROW OF--
THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN AND CHILDREN'S CHILDREN, IN CASE ONE GENERATION FAILS, THE NEXT CAN TAKE UP THE CAUSE.
("Life in Utah, Or The Mysteries And Crimes Of Mormonism," J.H.Beadle; "Mormonism, Shadow or Reality?" Tanner,Tanner; "What's Going on Here?" Bob Witte, et al.).
How many times has Romney said the government of America is bad--its people are good, but its government is bad? AND, promised to 'change' Washington? AGAIN, REMEMBER THE LDS "POLITICAL" ORGANIZATION and LDS 'MEANINGS.'

Mitt Romney is a generational LDS and LDS High Priest. The 'LDS POLITICS' are deep-seated in generational LDS, and LDS High Priests, who "LIVE THEIR RELIGION." Romney says he will NOT DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM HIS RELIGION. AS HIS CLAIM OF 'BELIEVING IN GOD,' THIS, TOO, HAS ANOTHER MEANING FOR ROMNEY who, as a LDS HIGH PRIEST, has made his oaths, sworn on his life--ROMNEY KNOWS LDS LAW (yet he tells voters he is not qualified to answer our questions):

If they are covenanant breakers, shed their blood (eg Journal of Discourses,vol.4, p.50).

TRAITORS TO LDS-God and his servants, their blood shall surely be shed, and that according to their covenants (Journal of Discourses, vol.4, p.375).
(Just two examples of LAWS 'lived' by LDS)

ALSO WE MUST CONSIDER, THE LDS LAW OF "BLOOD ATONEMENT" which some claim never existed or no longer applies to LDS, BUT it is NOT obsolete. It is STILL LDS SCRIPTURE/LAW, and it is still published by LDS around the world. (Yet, if found somewhere other than LDS-Mormon publications, LDS will deny the existence of their LDS LAW OF BLOOD ATONEMENT):

For LDS there MUST be OBEDIENCE TO "ALL" LDS LAWS AND ORDINANCES--along with the blood of LDS-Christ--for LDS-Salvation. But their are some LDS sins that cannot be atoned by the blood of LDS-Christ, and these REQUIRE LDS TO SACRIFICE THEIR OWN LIFE, to atone for their own sin/s. This LDS Doctrine is true LDS Doctrine, that can be found in all the standard works of LDS scripture (as taught in: "Doctrines of Salvation," vol.1, p.133, LDS president Joseph Fielding Smith, renowned LDS-gospel and LDS-doctrinal authority, and grand nephew of founding prophet/president Joseph Smith jr).

THE LAW OF LDS-God is that, to atone for some sins, LDS MUST SHED THEIR OWN BLOOD--the operation of LDS-Christ's atonement will not work...

WHEN THE SAME PERSON ADMINISTERS BOTH "CIVIL" AND LDS-MORMON LAWS, THIS LDS BLOOD-ATONEMENT LAW WILL BE PRACTICED IN ITS FULNESS.
(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 92-93).

PLENTY OF INSTANCES men have been 'RIGHTEOUSLY SLAIN', to atone for their own sins. THIS IS LOVING OUR NEIGHBOR AS OURSELVES...SPILL HIS BLOOD...SPILL IT...THAT IS THE WAY TO LOVE MANKIND. (eg Journal of Discourses,vol.4, pp.219-220).

"Sins" according to LDS LAW OF BLOOD ATONEMENT include: covenant breakers, apostates, rejecting the LDS-gospel, marriage to an "African," stealing, adultery (outside those marriages sanctioned by LDS leaders) (eg Journal of Discourses, vol.4,p.50; vol.1,p.73; vol.3,p.226; vol.10,p.110; vol.1,pp108-109; "The Seer," pp.42,223).  

UTAH INCORPORATED THIS LDS LAW, giving the condemned the choice to 'be shot and have his blood shed' "in harmony with" LDS LAW.
("Doctrines of Salvation," Joseph Fielding Smith,vol.1, pp.135-136).

Then, there are the LDS "DANITES." The avenging angels. LDS leaders' own 'secret ops force.' That they ever existed is denied by LDS. Yet, there own words prove otherwise:

HISTORY AGREES THE "DANITES" WERE ORGANIZED WITHIN THE LDS-MORMON ORGANIZATION, WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PLUNDER AND MURDER THE "ENEMIES" OF THE "SAINTS." (eg "The Restored Church," LDS-Mormon writer, William E. Berrett, pp.197-198).

There is MUCH hidden behind that word "RELIGION" and it is being wielded as a weapon to keep inquirers at bay.

In the forum, on  C-Span, covering "campaign propaganda," a panelist gave a definition for a "LIE."
1. Does the candidate believe what he/she says?
2  Is it meant to deceive us?
3. Is it true?

We MUST weigh our candidates heavily. We are electing a WAR-TIME president in an unsettled world.


 
 
Hands down Romney is the best chance the republicans have at a run for the whitehouse this election.  I don't think anybody is fooling themselves with visions of Huckabee in the whitehouse.  US voters would sooner elect chelsea clinton than a candidate who uses chuck norris as his primary foreign policy.  
I knew Romney when I was a professor at Harvard - the man is absolutely brilliant and has the highest integrity. To me the most ignorant and dishonest are those who refuse to change their minds when they are confronted with new evidence that shows their previous opinion was in errors. Romney has the guts, humility and integrity to admit his previous views were wrong. Unfortunately, ignorant Republicans are going to let the liberal media teach them about Republican candidates and have their Kerry flip-flop revenge
Yes Mitt romney appointed the judge who allowed a killer 2 walk free and while he was govenor the corrections dept failed 2 file paper work that would have kept the killer behind bard. What a great leader
As a Massachusetts resident, who had the misfortune to live in Mass during Mitt Romney's administration, I feel compelled to comment. Let's leave the "Flip Flop" phrase out of it. I understand that there is integrity in reassessing one's opinions and changing them if new evidence is found, but Romney has changed his stance on abortion and gay rights simply to pander to the GOP in order to be electible. Mitt Romney will change ANY opinion in order to be more attractive to the conservative Republican base in order to be elected. He wants the presidency at any cost, including selling his integrity out. Additionally, he did not in fact cut taxes in Massachusetts, and his idea of health care reform is ineffective and unfair. As of Jan 1st, in MA, if you cannot AFFORD health care, you will be fined. Not only will you be uninsured, you will also faced with financial penalties. I don't see how this will help anyone who is too poor to afford health insurance in the first place. Mitt Romney is an exceptionally poor choice for president of this country, and as a person who has lived with his administration in Mass, I strongly urge people to look at his record, see that he does not stick to ANYTHING he says in the long term, or if it will threaten his position of power. Think twice, please.
Mick, it's too bad you have to resort to bashing to try to sway voters decisions on Mitt Romney.  You must be pretty insecure to have to spend so much time "exposing" LDS doctrine, which in fact, will likely have the opposite effect of what you're trying to accomplish.    
Romney is a Liar.

There is no way to say it any nicer.
Romney vs. Romney is the battle I want to see. The man could have quite a debate with himself.

Question: How does being a ballot-stuffing used car salesman who manages to take every side of an issue make one qualified to lead a nation?
At least Romney's adverts are factually based and truthful.  Although, I think they need more verve and sting, and to be harsher, especially with respect to the Hick-he-be's demonstrated and incomparable ignorance with respect to foreign matters, as well as a plethora of other important issues, by use of his own filmed and recorded statements.  Religious beliefs have not bearing whatsoever; so it is a tragedy that the Hick-he-be seems supported by the fundamentalist groups solely because of their separate pathologies, misapprehensions, biases, and assorted prejudices, which simpleminded, wide-eyed groups the Hick-he-be plays like a street revival drum.  Are the Hick-he-be's amusingly uninformed proponents actually attempting to persuade this readership that their candidate, who is laughably educated and thus semiliterate, as well as woefully and dangerously inexperienced, could even find Pakistan, or any other foreign country or state of our union, on a map?  Certainly they cannot expect to convince the sophisticated voter the Hick-he-be is even remotely an intelligent, informed, viable and electable candidate, or yet a true paradigm of a Republican or Conservative candidate, except in the minds of these same self-deluded “rabble in the street” and their brethren, the “great unwashed,” using here Thomas Jefferson’s apt terms.  Or have you not read about his many egregious gaffes during this ongoing campaign?  Let’s remind you of but a few: He did not know that the state of emergency had been lifted in Pakistan for more than two weeks when asked about the situation there; he insultingly continues to defend his indefensible position on quarantining Gays, with the imbecilic and disproved explanation that current science at time of his suggestion did not know how AIDS was spread, when those facts had been known for more than ten years and were then widely disseminated; with respect to Bhutto’s assassination, he was asked a throwaway question by the press concerning his reaction, and not only did he not answer that question, he incoherently declaimed instead on his fantastic and silly idea that the whole of our enormous illegal immigration problem is due to an illegal influx of Pakistanis (never mentioning millions of our illegal Hispanics); here is a person running for a presidential nomination who doesn't even know what an NIE report is, the nature of its contents, or its import when asked; who, while governor of a fourth-rate state, which after his tenure continues to have the lowest academic standing for state schools in the US entire; inappropriately spent state funds intended for statehouse operation for the household expenses, personal clothing and fast food outings incurred by him and his family members; was censured for serious ethics violations more times than his HillBillery predecessor; who blithely and mindlessly freed tens of killers and rapists to once again kill and rape by recklessly pardoning and commuting their sentences during his watch; is a complete dullard, who preaches the inerrancy of the Protestant (don’t forget he has intentionally, knowingly aligned himself with a nationally known anti-Catholic from San Antonio, Texas) bible and stupidly disputes the fact that evolution is demonstrable and proven science, instead personally preferring the idiocy of creationism, and touts to all this nonsense as the actual version of events, and that being a dogma needful of being taught to your schoolchildren, with or without your approval; etc.  Conversely, none of Romney’s alleged misstatements during this campaign or some decision taken while governor resulted in the death or rape of anyone.  Romney is highly educated, exceptionally experienced regards both domestic and international affairs and issues, unlike all other candidates.  He is a very successful businessman and an honest, family-oriented, sincere, and hardworking man.  These attributes set him well apart from his competition in both parties.  He is trustworthy, results-oriented, and immediately capable of performing all presidential duties from his first day in office.  He can definitely win this nomination and is the man to win the 2008 national election, which none of the other Republicans could come close to doing.  If your true intention, however, is to have Obama or the ever mendacious and wholly inexperienced HillBillery win the nomination and perhaps the 2008 election, then the fraudulent and proudly ignorant Hick-he-be or the elderly McCain should be your top choices, although either of these selections will ineluctably guarantee a Democrat in the White House, for at least four years.
MICK and anyone who is tempted to believe him,
It really saddens me to see these "cut and pasted" anti-Mormon propaganda pieces aimed at tainting the image of another. I was raised to believe these twisted, taken out of context part truths about the Mormons. I went as far as to pass out the same pamphlets at a Mormon Temple once. I was 18 and went as part of a youth activity with my Presbyterian church youth group. I will never forget the uncomfortable feelings I had that night being part of hurting my neighbor. later as we toured their undedicated building, I felt something very different about these "Mormons" than what I had been taught that I aught to feel. I felt goodness and peace.
I decided to ask them what they believed and learned first hand. 23 years later, I am a very happy wife with wonderful children that I strive daily to teach  the gospel of Jesus Christ to.
Is every thing these Anti Mormon bloggers state false?
No. They do in fact state many facts. But taken very much out of context, twisted just so to sound scary and blasphemous and weird.
People in biblical times did the same to Christ and His followers, not understanding they jumped to judgment and condemned.

Thank you Charles of Stanford! There is no doubt in my heart that you are 100% right about Romney.
I think Romney is the smartest candidate out there.  This country needs someone who can run this country like a business and is interested in seeing the entire company proser.  I am tired of the career politicians who aren't looking after the company but only after their own interests.  BTW, when is the issue of education going to be addressed?  

It will be the radical evangelicals that will do their version of their "Christian best" to do Romney in tho.  Do these so called Christians understand the commandment about not bearing false witness?  (Eespecially while thumping a bible...) I can't bleieve, well actually I am sickened by, the amount of lies being put out there about Mormons.  

One more thought about flip flopping.  I supppose more than half the country wishes Pres. Bush would have changed his views on Iraq and Afghanistan after receiving more detailed knowledge of what was going on but he kept barrelling on head strong into where we are today...  Mitt Romney, on the other hand has stated long befor he was running for President why he changed his decisions on public policy for abortion and he is getting blasted for it.  We don't need another President who insists that a flat pancake only has 1 side.
Mick, I read one of your posts a few days ago. It made me sad to see your religious bigotry presented in a political forum. Then I read your post above. I hope that whoever moderates these posts will take notice of your hate. This is not the place.

Mick, your post has little to do with debating Romney and more so with tearing down his religion. Of the religions I'm familiar with, most have "eye-brow raising pasts", and some are "interesting" in their present form - mormonism is no different. Several of your comments on the mormon religion are short exerpts that do not appear in context. Who can tell the truth with that? It reads like you are anti-mormon. If a person's religion really was important for running this country then I would suspect that many of us would be investigating the religious and personal practices of all candidates, not just the mormon one. Because some have chosen to do so, it speaks to the religous bigotry of this country.

Below is a portion of what I shared the other day:
I too have mormon friends and family, and they are not robots for their faith. One only needs to look at the mormon government officials (House, Senate, Governers - Harry Reid for Pete's sake) to see that they think for themselves. Suggesting Romney is influenced by his upbringing is the same as any other candidate. Why not then fault find with all the other candidates religions? The reason you don't is that you are prejudice against the mormon religion. Your post has little to do with Romney and politics. Please go find some other venue to bash mormons. Here, stick to the topic of politics.

I did look up the word bigot as you suggested. In my 1995 Webster's New American Dictionary it says, "one intolerantly devoted to his or her own prejudices or opinions synonym-fanatic, enthusiast, zealot.
That is definately you. You've spent an incredible amount of time tearing down the mormon religion. Having studied it, I know you share many half-truths and for that matter, flat out lies! Several of your cited "sources" are not even LDS canonized scripture, and several of the supposed "teachings" don't exist - they are mere lies and fabrications.

To understand the LDS trinity difference in belief one only need to look at the Nicene Creed versions written around 300-400 AD. This is where the traditional Christian belief comes from regarding the Trinity - 3 beings (God, Jesus, & Holy Ghost) acting as three separately, but one God or presence. The mormons contend this is false, that God, Jesus & Holy Ghost are distinct and separate beings, but functioning towards one main goal - saving us. The Nicene Creed is not scripture. It is the interpretation of scripture begun in 300 or so and sculpted over time. There are different versions that exist, just look at the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox for an example. The argument the LDS make is how can God the Father speak to Jesus Christ the Son while being baptized and the Holy Ghost descend in the form of a dove - i.e. three distinct beings functioning at the same time, but really only one being. It does not make logical sense. They have an interesting point. Anyway, that is what I learned in my Lutheran schooling.

So Mick, don't pretend to debate political issues when it is clear you are tearing down a religion. It is not Christian like. Jesus told us to love everyone, even our enemies. Why else would he have taught the parable of the Good Samaritan. If you were truly a Christian, you would not seek to tear down. In the end, Galatians 5:22 sums it up the best - By their fruits ye shall know them.
Romney is done- Iowa is no flip flop place. Huck is the  guy we can actually trust to be commander in Chief.
I encourage all who caucus and vote for the Republican nominee to read this MSNBC 'blog.'.....
These comments by both the enlightened and the uninlightened desolate writers make it succintly clear.... Mr. Romney deserves your votes .... The preeminent person for President!

E-mail this blog to everyone in Iowa and New Hampshire.... and the other Primaries.

Thank you for caring about the future of this nation.
Mr. Montanero:

You characterize Mr. Romney's statements of fact about Mr. Huckabee as: "attacking", "lambastes" and 'swipe".  If you were 'Honestly' resporting...you would write, Romney stated some unrefutable facts about Huckabee's past history! This not an ATTACK AD!

Note: Huckabee has not denied Romney's statements but rather has implied Romney is a liar and called Romney 'untrustworthy'.  Who is the dishonest man? Are you supporting Huckabee's ethics?
The dollar slid across the board on Friday as data showing a 9 percent decline in sales of new U.S. homes last month heightened concern about the economy, putting the greenback on track for its worst week in more than a year.
The housing report, which was weaker than economists had expected, also bolstered the case for more Federal Reserve interest rate cuts in 2008. Earlier this week, the S&P/Case-Shiller index showed a record decline in U.S. home prices in October.

This is what's happening to YOUR house. All the 'money' and 'equity' you thought you had saved - eliminated! The equity through falling house prices - and the money because we are DEBASING OUR CURRENCY. That low fed rate you're reading about gets created by printing money  and lending it to people. With more money, the money YOU have is worth LESS. So your money is worth less and your property is worth less - where can you turn to keep ahead of inflation? I think  you BETTER turn to Dr. Paul. He's the ONLY one running that has a HOPE of being able to deal with this.


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