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Huck's Pakistani immigration numbers

Posted: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:41 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC/NJ's Adam Aigner-Treworgy
OTTUMWA, IA -- In a conference call with reporters held this afternoon Huckabee cited an article from the Denver Post written by Bruce Finley as the source for his information on the number of illegal Pakistani immigrants who have entered the U.S.

“The number came from homeland security,” Huckabee said, referring to his speech this morning where he claimed that 660 illegal Pakistani immigrants entered the U.S. last year. “There are two stories that are published that report that number. One is Bruce Finley of the Denver Post, and there is also a Jim Pinkerton column in which that is mentioned. And that's where that figure, they were quoting Homeland Security on that number.”

Later in the call, Pinkerton said that his article referenced Finley’s, meaning that Finley’s March 2006 article is the source of the misleading information. Although that number is included in the Denver Post’s article in association with Pakistani immigrants, it is in reference to “non-Mexican migrants caught entering the United States illegally in fiscal years 2002 to 2005,” not the number that entered last year.

This morning Huckabee also claimed, “We have more Pakistani illegals coming across our border than all other nationalities except those immediately south of the border.” This sentence paraphrases a sentence written by Finley, which is admittedly limited in scope.

In his article Finley writes that non-Mexican migrants “came mostly from Central America and Brazil. Also among them were: Iranians (95), Iraqis (74), Pakistanis (660), Syrians (52), Yemenis (40), Egyptians (106) and Lebanese (91).” Then Finley goes on to write that the list of countries he has chosen to report on comes from a list of “35 ‘special-interest’ nations the State Department lists as hotbeds for terrorism,” and not a true ranking of the largest numbers of illegal nationals across the board.

A spokesperson for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said that the number of illegal Pakistani immigrants caught in FY 2007 falls behind both the Philippines and China when it comes to countries outside the Western Hemisphere. In FY 2007, ICE reported catching 435 Pakistanis, 766 Chinese, 521 Filipinos and 600 Indians.

In fact, NBC’s Michael Kosnar reports that according to officials with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and the Department of Homeland Security, illegal Pakistani immigrants aren't even in the list of top 25 nationalities of immigrants who cross the border illegally.

According to estimates released by the Department of Homeland Security in August, the largest ethnic group of illegal immigrants currently living in the U.S. who are not originally from the western hemisphere -- i.e. not from “immediately south of the border” -- are Indians. There are an estimated 270,000 illegal Indian nationals residing in the U.S. as of January 2007, which is an increase of 125 percent over the same estimates in 2000.

Meaning, it is completely plausible that if Indians were included in Finley’s list as an ethnic category of non-Mexican migrants caught at the border between FY 2002 and 2005, it could be much higher than Pakistan’s.

Then again, Finley does not cite the source of those numbers in the original article -- which was published in March of 2006 -- but according to the ICE spokesperson the only official numbers released by the government are the number of illegal immigrants who are caught crossing. Such a number may be a representative sample of the true breakdown of illegal immigrants residing in the country, but they are far from precise.

The ICE spokesperson also said that numbers for illegal immigrants who successfully cross the border each year are impossible to calculate and are often only provided by think tanks as estimates.

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First the info was from the CIA, then from homeland security, then from the Denver Post... and several years old and incomplete.

I think it's dumb to tie a foreign, predictable (although tragic) assassination to immigration anyway, but this makes Huckabee look even more stupid (if that's possible) when it comes to foreign policy.  He needs to skip the ads and use his public speaking money to pay for a foreign policy advisor.  He desperately needs one...
he is a tv evangelist what do you expect?the rapture armageddon guy---he is not interested in saving america.
Criminals did NOT build America; Citizens and LEGAL immigrants built it. Illegal Aliens and Immigration is NOT the same thing. 80% of the American people want an end to anarchy! This is NOT a Democrat, Republican, Independent issue. It's an American Issue.

Illegal aliens are criminals, those who hire them are criminals and those who aid-and-abet them are criminals.

Illegal aliens in America have NO rights.  We are required by law to arrest and prosecute, deport them. (Title 8 U.S. Code) To report illegal aliens call the DHS National Hotline 1 866 DHS 2ICE. (1-866-347-2523)

No, matter your political party affiliation, and setting aside your thoughts on issues.  We all need to remember what it is to be an American Citizen.  We need to make sure our elected representatives obey their Oath of Office and keep their Oath of Allegiance. See http://tinyurl.com/2znnvl Know whom you are voting for.
The only thing Huckabee is good at is pardoning criminals who say they found Jesus, and will join his religion.  Can you imagine if every Governor was like that??  All the murders & rapists would be walking free to kill and rape again -- just as many already did with Huckabee.
Well considering he said three different times that he has a theology degree when he does not, does kind of indicate his mind set.

Of course he also said repeatedly that he never pardoned any murderer. He pardoned 12. Oh well. Maybe he was confused.

Least us forget he says that he was for a "scholarship" program for the illegal "kids". Oops! It was not a scholarship program, it was standard finiancial aid, and these are not kids, they are college age students, 18 years old or more. These adults have deciced to stay in the USA and become criminals like their parents rather than return to their countries.

And the best of all... he says he is for tough immigration enforcement, on his web page and in handouts says he will have all illegals leave in 120 days. He just "forgot" to mention, that his plan is to have them come right back in as legals, ie a touch back plan. See www.alipac.us

HUCKLABEE IS A HUSKTER.... A TENT REVIVALIST SAYING ANITHING THAT COMES INTO HIS HEAD.
Mr. Huckabee is about the most scary thing that could happen to this country, that or Jeb Bush.
Huckabee, God's favorite stupid person.  He can sing and dance and lose the fat but he needs to know foreign policy is where it's at!
Huck is right. Seal the border. Go Huck!
McCain, Heckabee, all of the Democrats   and the rest of the open Border pro-illegal Aliens supporters false compassion for Illegal Aliens is sicking. This Nation has 47 millions citizens without medical insurance, Million of our elderly chose between food and medicine every day. Millions of American children live in poverty with no chance at the American dream. Our vets. return from the war that came about by lies from Politicians without proper medical care or treatment. Yet they shower rewards on the Illegal Aliens, free medical, free schooling for their many children, no reward is too great for the ones that break our laws, invaded this country and demand their rights while Slaughtering, Raping and Robbing thousands of American Citizens each year. The Politicians try to get the public to believe it is their great Compassion. Bull it is the money they get from business from supplying them cheap labor with 22,000.00 worth of benefits paid each year  by the tax payers on the Republican side and the welfare votes on the Democrat side. If they really are Compassion and Caring there are Millions of American Citizens that have played by the rules, payed their taxes, obeyed the laws, fought the wars and built this Nation in great need that the Politicians could use to show their Compassion but Compassion for American citizens does not get either Money or Votes for our Corrupt lying Politicians.


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