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Domenico Montanaro, NBC News Political Reporter



The battle for Iowa

Posted: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:34 AM by Domenico Montanaro

The New York Times looks at the Democratic ground war. Obama “is on the hunt for Iowans who have never participated in the state’s presidential caucuses, including independent voters under 50 and students who will be 18 by the general election.” Clinton “is searching for Iowans who have skipped the caucuses in the past and who, because of age, sex or other characteristics, seem likely to support her, starting with independent women over 65 and under 30.” And Edwards “is taking a more traditional approach, working through the official list of Democrats who showed up to choose a candidate in 2004.”

More: “The ground war - the laborious, unglamorous process of identifying supporters and making sure they show up to make their preference known when it counts - has always been a critical part of the contest in Iowa. But the turnout effort among Democrats this time around has exploded into the most ambitious and costly in the history of this state’s presidential caucus system, and it puts on display the sharply diverging strategies the candidates are pursuing as they hurtle toward the first real test of the 2008 campaign.”

The Clinton, Edwards, and Obama camps seem to agree with this:
-- if turnout equals 2004 (approx. 125,000), advantage Edwards.
-- if turnout is slightly up (say, 130,000-140,000), advantage Clinton.
-- and if turnout is way up there (think 140,000+), advantage Obama.

The MSNBC/McClatchy/Mason-Dixon poll isn’t the only new Iowa survey out today. A Reuters/C-Span/Zogby tracking poll has Clinton ahead (outside the margin of error) over Obama and Edwards, 31%-27%-24%. On the GOP side, it’s Huckabee 29%, Romney 28%, McCain 11%, and Thompson, Giuliani, and Paul all tied at 8%.

The Des Moines Register's Yepsen says Iowa caucus-goers are looking for "a candidate they like and trust - and who can put together the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House." He breaks down the electability arguments for and against the major candidates.

The Register's Beaumont breaks down the keys for Thursday. "For Democrats: Which campaign will attract the most first-time caucusgoers? For Republicans: Does Mike Huckabee have the organization to support his lead in the polls?"

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Iowans, Please speak for me! I live in a state where I will have little effect on the outcome of the republican primary. I want a man who is PASSIONATELY devoted to the moral-social issues that OUGHT to be THE most vital concerns of our people. Please send us the REAL THING. Please send me Mike Huckabee!
edwards first, Clinton second.
Obama gets slapped for going negative,no experience, and targeting to much black support.
(Oprah, Patrick
Yes it's right here, hillaryclinton.com . come for a visit, no reservations necessary.
Zogby will be doing this daily.  He said on cspan this morning that the race is tied.  No daylight at all.
Second choice is interesting in this survey.
Clinton gets only 12 percent.
Iowa Democrats, please send a message to all America that you're smarter than to be hoodwinked by the "experience" claims that HRC has made.  

This weekend's Wall Street Journal outlined the accurate attacks that the GOP will use to shred HRC's claims about experience.  If Iowans, and other Dems thereafter, nominate HRC, her experience claims will lay tattered by the roadside by the time America goes to the polls next November.  The result?  Another Democratic loss.

It's been surprising that Obama and Edwards have let HRC make all her experience claims.  The GOP won't.  Her biggest claim to the Presidency will be grenaded.
Chuck....So Edwards' 527 doesn't count for negativity? Or hypocrisy for that matter. AND Hillary not pandering to the black vote? When did that happen?
As for experience...you Obama-haters are gonna have to seriously come up with something better. Where did Edwards/Clinton's experience get us. Edwards apologizing for most of his votes and Hillary too arrogant to apologize for hers. PEOPLE OF IOWA.....YOUR MOMENT IS NOW!!!! YOUR FUTURE IS MY FUTURE!!! PLEASE CAUCUS FOR BARACK OBAMA!
BARACK THE VOTE!!!
Chuck, get off your Racist rehtoric out there in White San Deigo.99.9999999999% of us are'nt living on a boat in the harbor watching seagulls.
Assume nothing, Your self serving paper hanger has plenty of hidden agenda. Seeing the Congress is derailed by the homesteading paper hanger, we the people have lost it's voice in Washington. The president rules by his demand, Congress rules by fear of the President, the people have no electable which has leadership or experience traits.

Don't you think we screamed, enough is enough?

Wipe the slate clean, Maybe a third party could bring real change? What we have is a Pissed off people, Washington has been put on notice. All the wasted money and time meaningless.
A media based marginalization of the second tier candidates in this election (Richrdson, Kucinich, Paul,) really hurts Iowa's open minded/fair caucus reputaion.  Is Iowa a good sampling? Good Starting point?  Probably not.
First Read, I tried to post the following thoughts on a different topic thread this morning and you haven't printed it, so I'll try again here.

As a feminist I want to see a woman elected president - but NOT Hillary! I want a woman to be elected on her OWN merits - someone like Margaret Thatcher whose husband Dennis was not a factor in her political successes. If Hillary were not married to Bill, does anyone really think she would be a candidate? If she had DIVORCED Bill, would she have the backing she has? Many who are supporting her are doing so because they want a third term for Bill. They think he will be co-president.

I want someone who has made it on his own merits. I want Barack Obama to be our nominee. He has 11 years of combined state and national legislative experience, where he has been and is known as a consensus builder, able to work well with both sides of the aisle. (read here that he actually has more legislative experience than Abraham Lincoln had when he ran for president!) And Obama is the ONLY Democrat who had the wisdom and foresight to oppose the Iraq War from the very start.

I proudly support Barack Obama!!

(p.s. First Read, please print my thoughts this time!)  
A media based marginalization of the second tier candidates in this election (Richrdson, Kucinich, Paul,) really hurts Iowa's open minded/fair caucus reputaion.  Is Iowa a good sampling? Good Starting point?  Probably not. Obama for Dems, No on Huckabee it's an untested staff.
"Yes it's right here, hillaryclinton.com . come for a visit, no reservations necessary."
First off I'm more then likely supporting Obama, but I agree hillaryclinton.com is a great place to see what Hillary will be like as a President. Mainily check out her blogs, now understandably it is pro-clinton, but my god!!! I tried asking a question about lobbyest, it didn't get posted, I tried asking a question about her Iraq vote and Judgement it didn't get posted. What happened to the discussion, My post were not smear's, from what I see about the only thing you can post, "I prase thee Clinton". That's not what I want from a President.
Now go to barackobama.com and go ahead and ask some questions, now of course it's pro-obama there but ask if you ask questions, in a nice manner they will be posted, and you will get answers. That's the kind of President I want, I don't agree with Obama's postion on everything, but I do feel he will listen!!!
I like the idea of having no one win Iowa - especially not Hillary.

Coronations are a bad thing.  Let the old time primary process work out.  Lets these candidates go from state to state earning the nomination.

If Hillary wins, the whole process will stop and we will never really see what these people are all about.

We've already learned that Hillary is willing to piss off a core Clinton constituency - African Americans - by going negative on Obama - drugs, Muslim paternal grandfather.

What else will the Clinton do to win?  

Send a few candidates on to NH SC and other states, lets have a real race not a coronation.  
I'm in Iowa and I'm supporting Bill Richardson.  Republicans agree he is the Democrats best choice.  I'm trying my hardest to get the work out.  5 Noble Peace Prize nominations!  The guy is a proven worldwide negotiator that can get along with all walks of life (and pronounce their names),  I've met all of the democratic choices, and he was the most straightforward and honest one.
Dear Friends:
American Citizens our forefathers came to this nation with pride, dignity and with purpose and the desire to form a more perfect union for their right to speak, religion and the right to vote and own land.
Not only for them but for their future offspring!  That is you.   The dark ages are past and new horizons bright and full of the glory only if you get out and vote.  
Desmoines Iowa a place I new as a child, where the piglets got out of the fence in my great uncles farm, where cottage cheese is made home and fresh and the eggs fresh from the farm.   Ladies you not always had the right to vote, you were chattles of your menfolk.
Minorities were not as many in Iowa but were here citizens in the state I was born, Richmond, Virginia.
Where as in the far north the dusty roads lead to the fight for freedom for you and me today.  
We are faced with the most challenging of times and advancements in societies including ours make it that much more important for those educated in the process of voting take advantage of that right.  The world is watching and you, your children and the religion and constitutional rights are more than ever important in protecting.  Communism masked in the socialism and dictatorship is on the rise. You were educated in what this means. All you who are reading this or use the computer would not be necessarily allowed the expansive communication you experience today.  Nor would you be able to say I want jobs and I want it made in the USA.  I do not want my great, great, great grandchildrens to not have the rights my forefathers gave me today.
Senator Hilary Clinton I may not vote for you but I know in your heart you would make every attempt to stand by our military and our government when brought under attack.  I know that in his heart and experience Senator Edwards would also do the same.  As you watched ours and your president as chief of staff I am certain you gained a profound respect for the women  and men who are leaders of your military and in command.  I am certain that Senator Edwards would do the same. You are also experienced and in the know spiritually and by will to deliver a command when needed as is Senator John McCain, who I respect and feel is deserving and encouraging all eligible American Citizens of the USA to register, file absentee registration where applicable and to come out and vote.  Women no matter what party you may wish to support you are the women of today.  Having children later in life and more challenged and stronger willed and educated.  Men of this time and millinium you are the strength of family and this nation and the strength and will of which the American Flag was originally designed for as your service made the difference so many times.  Do not waste the education you have been given wheather it be in the smallest of towns or villages, or the largest.  No matter what your lives be like you can make a difference only if you register and vote.
AMERICA NEEDS YOU UNITED WE STAND  ON AND IN THE BANKS OF AMERICA FOR THIS NATION IS NOT ECONOMICALLY DAMAGED BY BIN LADEN AND HIS FOLLOWERS.  OUR CAPITAL IS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!   SO ARE YOU!!!!  PLANT THE SEEDS FOR TOMORROW AND REGISTER AND VOTE EVERY RED BLOODED AMERICAN CITIZEN AND DOWN HOME FOLK.  YOUNG AND OLD!!!
IF YOU NEED A RIDE CALL THEM AND TELL THEM SEND AN EMAIL TO YOUR SENATOR OR REGISTRATION SITE. IF YOU NEED TO KNOW IF YOU CAN TAKE TIME OFF WORK SPEAK OUT AND ASK IT IS YOUR RIGHT AND PREVILEGE.  IF YOU NEED AN INTERPRETER EMAIL THEM AND LET THEM KNOW.  AT YOUR POST OFFICE YOU CAN PICK UP A VOTER REGISTRATION CARD.
ALL RACES AND ALL FAITHS THE ROOSTER IS CROWING GET OUT THE VOTE.

THE FIRST TIME I VOTED WAS WITH PRIDE IN ILLINOIS, I WAS A YOUNG MOTHER AND THE DAY WAS COLD AND ICEY RAIN. I TOOK MY CHILD A LITTLE BOY BLONDE HAIR AND BLUE EYED IN A BLUE SNOW SUITE AND PULLED HIM IN HIS LITTLE RED WAGON DOWN A DUSTY ROAD TO THE VOTING POLL!!  THAT MEANT SO MUCH TO ME!!! I HOPE AND PRAY THAT MY SON AND DAUGHTER AND BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF AMERICA ALL OVER READ THIS AND ARE INSPIRED.  YOUR VOTE COUNTS AND IS MEANINGFUL FOR THE LITTLE ONES OF THIS NATION AND YOUR LOVED ONES OF ALL AGES.  PLEASE ASK YOU PARENTS AND RELATIVES AND FRIENDS HAVE YOU REGISTERED TO VOTE.  VETERANS SUPPORT THIS NATION AS YOU HAVE BEFORE,  ALL VETERANS AND ACTIVE MILITARY PERSONEL  I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND MAY YOU HAVE THE SUPPORT OF EVERY RED BLOODED AMERICAN. PLEASE VOTE.  AMEN.



Unless the sun don't shine in Iowa, expect 140-150k turnout.



Where is my comment it is my constitutional right to speak freely?  Freedom of speech. Amen
Friends in Iowa, the polls are beginning to show you are making the right decision.  Send Mitt Romney to the White House.  He is the only one who fix all these huge problems.   He does not just play the game, like Hillary, He will define the game.  The man is 100% awsome!  


Those with ears to hear, listen up... those political deaf and dumb, back to your poll popping... and good luck to you.

Based on the "the facts on the ground" here's what to expect in Iowa:

Democratic caucus results:

Obama and Edwards tied within margin of error.
Clinton a close third.

(Although I am less clued into the Republican campaigns, this is what operatives are saying today)

Republican caucuses:

Romney with tiny lead over Huck today, but Huck is re-surging, thus a virtual (MOE) tie between the candidates for sainthood, with McCain a strong third.

All the blow-hards who have been chanting numbers as if the polls to which they had access ever meant anything... put this in your cannister and breathe deeply.  


Or best my prediction.


? Barack Hussein Obama 2008 ?

I believe that I would think long and hard look at this unqualified person before I made this choice.

The national media has had a field day with Mitt and his relations with the Mormon church.Now let's be fair and look at Obama's church history and his continued relations with this well know racist pastor,Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/8/194812.shtml?s=al&promo_code=3855-1

We all know if this would have been a Republican with the kind of connection,he would be out of the race by now and most likely out of office.
New dynamic, reported today, may alter electability of all potential nominees.

On Jan 7, a group of prominent Democrats and Republicans will convene, and may back an independent candidate if the party's nominees polarize rather than embrace bipartisan cooperation.

Among Democrats, negative fallout may be greatest for Clinton, followed by Edwards.  Themes expressed by Obama resonate with the group's goals and therefore may further enhance Obama's electibility.

"Bipartisan Group Eyes Independent Bid" by David Broder, today's Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/29/AR2007122901476_pf.html    

-- Op-ed, today's Boston Globe:
"Changing our direction," by William S. Cohen and Sam Nunn, both attending Jan 7, meeting.
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/12/30/changing_our_direction/
In other words, Michael Litzau, you want someone religious. Another lets violate the First Amendment and screw the neutrality issue ways".  It is amazing that people must be religious in order to be moral. I am NOT religious because of different reasons and I feel I am more moral than the religious one.  

Two, people stop with the I like this person because I can have a beer with him or this person is black or female, etc. Lets think for a change shall we.  Lets really do some reading and vote for the issues.  Personally what should seriously consider is vote the issues and NOT the person.  The person should not take a part. Too many screw ups are voting and too many screw ups are winning.  You vote the issues and the candidate that closely matches the issues that people vote for wins.
A media based marginalization of the second tier candidates in this election (Richrdson, Kucinich, Paul,) really hurts Iowa's open minded/fair caucus reputaion.  Is Iowa a good sampling? Good Starting point?  Probably not.
Anthony A., Kansas City Mo. (Sent Sunday, December 30, 2007 12:31 PM)

Kucinich did not even campaign in Iowa.  That is why he is "marginalized" here.  
If the democrats continue along this road, it will mean GOP again!  Clinton and Obama will be destroyed when the general comes around, Edwards will hold his own, but will not get the undecided and "fear" vote. The person that can win the POTUS and at the same time make an excellent president is Joe Biden.
John Edwards will be the next President, I know a lot of people from N.C. and they all are backing him.
SHARON WALKER, YOU MAKE ME SICK; SAYING YOU KNOW HILLARY STANDS BY OUR MILITARY, SHE SUPPORTS KOS A MILITARY HATER ORGANIZATION THAT PUT OUT THE GENERAL BETRAEUS AD, AND SHE BELITTLED HIM GENERAL PETRAEUS TRYING TO LOOK TOUGH FOR THE LIBERAL MILITARY HATERS, DON'T YOU DARE INSULT OUR MILITARY AGAIN WITH A REMARK LIKE THAT, MOST GENERALS HAVE SAID THEY WOULD RETIRE RATHER THAN SERVE UNDER ANY DEMOCRAT RUNNING.


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