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Hop in Romney's step

Posted: Monday, December 31, 2007 4:08 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC/NJ’s Erin McPike
DUBUQUE, Iowa -- With a newfound confidence that was also on display yesterday but somewhat lacking on Friday and Saturday, Romney smiled and laughed his way through a news conference with reporters this morning after his first campaign stop in Bellevue, Iowa.
 
He began by expressing the critical nature of pardons and commutations -- something he's been hitting Huckabee over the head with -- and informed reporters that he established a 10-to 12-page set of guidelines for issuing them as governor and said he would do the same as president. And indirectly hitting Huckabee, he added: "Clearly the importance of this topic suggests as we consider something of this nature that we do so on a thorough and complete and comprehensive level, and we don't make pardons on a capricious and arbitrary basis."
 
His first question centered on Huckabee’s counterattacks on pardons and Romney’s strictness on the issue. “I guess that if I were Gov. Huckabee, I don't know that I'd be raising the issue of commutations and pardons,” Romney responded. “A record of 1,033 pardons and commutations, and so far as I know, without any guidelines -- simply done on the basis of what he may have thought was appropriate. It's not a process which should be pursued nationally.” Despite previous attempts to tie McCain to Democrats on taxes, Giuliani to Democrats on social issues, and now mentioning former President Clinton in his opening remarks, Romney told reporters later in the session that he had no intention of drawing a parallel between Clinton and Huckabee. 
 
As Romney’s chief competitor in the Hawkeye State, Huckabee has been giving Romney a run for his money -- literally. But Romney’s boundless optimism seems to correspond to narrowing polls that show him within striking distance, if not in the lead, of the former Arkansas governor.
 
Asked if he has internal data showing a rise, he said, “You know as I go across Iowa, it's very clear, I see person after person who comes up to me and says, 'Look I was uncertain of what I was going to be coming out of this, but I've been watching the last few days, and I'm with you.' And I hear that time and time again. My people are hearing that.”
 
And although he said he wouldn’t forecast the outcome in Iowa, he said in the same sentence that he thinks he will ultimately be victorious in the state.
 
After Obama spent some time yesterday contrasting himself with Romney, Romney’s camp shot back with an attack on his fiscal policy. Asked about that this morning, Romney laughed and said “Oh good.” And then of Obama’s attack on him today, he said, “I heard.” He chuckled and said, “This vicious campaign; he's got to stop. Barack Obama said I'm not as tall as he is. And this has just got to stop.”
 
He called Obama “a good guy” but said he hadn’t heard Obama’s comments about him on immigration and went on to discuss his agenda on the issue.
 
NOTE: One thing that’s hardly a surprise? Romney won’t be releasing any data about his fourth-quarter fundraising until the middle of January -- after the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary are things of the past. “I'm not going to be putting together forecasts and announcements until they're required by the government,” he said.

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Huckabee: "We have got to respond to these Romney ads!"
Staffer: "Do we have the cash?"
Huckabee: "No,....but...I've got an idea."
Staffer: "Ok, but just dont mention Pakistan, deal?"
I often wonder what the Jews really think about themselves  not being the Chosen People any more.  The Chosen people will be located in Missouri in the immediate future.  The LDS is buying up every available piece of property they can in Missou.
Actually, Mitt, Obama said you WERE taller and better-looking than he is.  What a mud-slinger, that Obama!
Look, bottom line: We need a President, not a Pastor or any other religious leader. STOP be prejudice again Romney because he's a Mormon (who, by the way, are some of THE most honorable people I have come across). And if you have heard bad things about Mormons, I would bet my life that you haven't been talking to Mormons (the only credible source about their religion). So if you have questions, ask a Mormon. Don't go referring to anit-Mormon literature if you REALLY want to find out about them. I did, and therefore respect them. They are great people, not psychos. We truly would be lucky to have Romney as President and if you are prejudice and fail to see that than you are doing our country an injustice. Vote for the most qualified candidate regardless of religion. Take religion outside of the equation and then tell me who you're left with among the most QUALIFIED candidates. Try it and see who's name you come up with: Romney, period.
Mitt Romney Flip Flopping on Abortion watch this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFMdK0TWtks&feature=related

Do you really want a scum bag like this.
A photograph of GOP presidential contender Mitt Romney at a 1994 Planned Parenthood fund-raiser has surfaced, once again raising questions about the former Bay State’s governor’s abortion flip-flopping.

The picture, a copy of which was obtained by the Herald, shows Romney and his wife Ann at a house party fund-raiser in Scituate with Nicki Nichols Gamble, who was the president of the Planned Parenthood League of Massachusetts at the time. Romney has already downplayed ties to Planned Parenthood after revelations that Ann Romney donated $150 to the group.

Gamble said the pic was snapped at an event at GOP activist Eleanor Bleakie’s house and that she “clearly” remembered speaking with Romney at the event. At the time, Romney was running as a pro-choice Republican against U.S. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.).

“My recollection is that we talked about his senate candidacy and the fact that he was supporting Roe v. Wade and a choice agenda at the time,” Gamble told the Herald. “It was a Planned Parenthood event. We were there to discuss our programs and our advocacy.”

The event was held the same day Ann Romney wrote a check to the pro-choice group. Romney has previously said he had “no recollection” of his wife writing the check to Planned Parenthood.

Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom called the flap “a dog bites man story.”

“Governor Romney used to have a different position on abortion,” Fehrnstrom said. “He is now firmly pro-life and has made it clear that as President he will advocate for a culture that welcomes life and protects the sanctity of life. This is the same path that Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush followed.”

Because of his abortion shift, Romney has been branded a flip-flopper by his GOP primary opponents, as well Democrats. Romney has stated he became pro-life in 2004 during the stem cell debate in Massachusetts.

Beyond attending the event, Romney filled out a 2002 questionnaire for the Planned Parenthood Advocacy Fund in which he said he supported Roe v. Wade, sex education in schools and increased access to emergency contraception.

“With Mitt Romney, this has been more than a flip-flop. This has been an extreme makeover,” said Planned Parenthood spokesman Angus McQuilken. “What voters need to know about Mitt Romney is this: where he stands on any issue is always a moving target.”

Romney reacts to photo:
+ Romney dismisses photo suggesting he attended Planned Parenthood event
dwedge@bostonherald.com
Why Mormons Are Not Christian.
and they are a Cult!

Please google all facts and see these are correct.
First: Mormons do not follow or believe in the historic Jesus Christ of the Bible, but rather in a difference Jesus. This is why most Biblical Christians emphatically insist that Mormons are not Christians. Let me explain.

The god of the Mormons is not the God of the Bible. To the Mormons, Jesus is the firstborn son of an exalted "man" who became the god of this world. The man-god of Mormonism was made the god of this world because of his good works on another planet somewhere out in the universe. He "earned" godhood, and was thus appointed by a counsel of gods in the heavens to his high position as the god of planet Earth. The Mormon god of this world was a man, like all men, who became a god. This is what the celestial marriage and the temple vows are all about. LDS men, by doing their temple work, are striving for exaltation by which they, too, shall one day become gods. Their wives will be the mother goddesses of "their" world and with their husband will produce the population of their world. This is the Mormon doctrine of "eternal progression."

Note the following quote from the Mormon Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, page 123, made by the LDS Apostle Orson Hyde:

"Remember that God, our heavenly Father, was perhaps once a child, a mortal like we ourselves, and rose step by step in the scale of progress, in the school of advancement; has moved forward and overcome, until He has arrived at the point were He is."

Lorenzo Snow, late President of the Mormon church, made this statement in the second verse of his famous poem entitled, "Man's Destiny":

"As Abra'm, Isaac, Jacob, too, babes, then men--to gods they grew. As man now is, our God once was; As now God is, so man may be,-- Which doth unfold man's destiny. . ."

The God of the Bible is not an exalted man. The God of the Bible is omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient. The Bible says He is the only God and there are no other Gods. He had no beginning or end and he is a spirit being and never was a man.

Note the clear teaching of the Bible as to who the real God is:

Numbers 23:19, "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?"

Psalms 102:26-27, "They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed: But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end."

Isaiah 43:10-11, "Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour."

Isaiah 44:6, "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God."

Isaiah 44:8, "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

Isaiah 45:21-22, "Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else."

Jeremiah 23:24, "Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD."

Malachi 3:6, "For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed."

John 1:16-18, "And of his fullness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."

John 4:24, "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

Romans 1:22, "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things."

Colossians 1:15, "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:"

1 Timothy 1:17, "Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen."

1 Timothy 6:16, "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."

Clearly, Mormonism's god is not the God of Christianity who is the God revealed to us in the Bible. The Mormon god is a god formed from the imaginations of Joseph Smith, and in truth is a false, non-existent god or idol.

Second: The Jesus Christ of Mormonism is not the Jesus Christ of the Bible.

The Mormon Jesus is the son of this man-god. The Mormon Jesus is the brother of Lucifer, and according to LDS teaching, he married several of the Marys of the New Testament. He is not, to the LDS church, "God incarnate" as the Bible plainly states. Clearly, the Mormon god and Jesus are not the tru
Is anyone at MSNBC monitoring these blogs?  They are getting a bit out of hand.  Are you guys really "approving" this stuff? Please maintain the integrity of your website or readers like me will get their information elsewhere!
Billie D. ,
I just finished watching the concusion of Band of Brothers. The scene in which the troops first discover
a consentration camp that the German soldiers abandomed thousands of starved prisoners.
people like you with your religious lack of understanding and intolerance and fear were responsible for that.

Previous anti-Romney poster, I would be ashamed to use my name too if I were you.
There is a line betwwen believing a women has a right ot choice what she does with her own body and then growing up and relizing that what rights does the unborn child hold.
Romney has clearly shared his change of heart and if you can not find it in your heart to understand such a simple thing than by all means, vote for whom ever you choose. Things change, I hope like heck for a man humble and strong enough to change when change is needed.
Most are too prideful & to weak to change.

Love Romeny!!!
Not only will we vote for you, we are so ready to serve with you to see be results.  

Okay, so I hit submit before spellcheck.

Billie D. ,
I just finished watching the concussion of Band of Brothers. The scene in which the troops first discover
a concentration camp that the German soldiers abandoned thousands of starved prisoners.
people like you with your religious lack of understanding and intolerance and fear were responsible for that.

Previous anti-Romney poster, I would be ashamed to use my name too if I were you.
There is a line between believing a women has a right to choice what she does with her own body and then growing up and realizing that what rights does the unborn child hold.
Romney has clearly shared his change of heart and if you can not find it in your heart to understand such a simple thing than by all means, vote for whom ever you choose. Things change, I hope like heck for a man humble and strong enough to change when change is needed.
Most are too prideful & to weak to change.

Love Romney!!!
Not only will we vote for you, we are so ready to serve with you to see be results.
Mitt Romney is the most qualified candidate. He knows how to solve problems. He knows how to run a business, how to run a state, and how to run an international sporting even (2002 Olympics). He has impressive academic achievements and a solid family life. He is light years ahead of all the other candidates in his overall abilities and would serve this country well. With Romney as President we would see things get fixed and this country headed back in the right direction. The US is a mess right now, and we're heading in the wrong direction quickly. Much like the 2002 Olympics, Romney took a train that was quickly going the wrong way and turned it around beautifully. He has shown the ability to do that with other ventures as well. It does not matter whether Romney is a Mormon or not. He has not let that influence his public decisions before, and won't allow it to now. If Romney loses the nomination, and the election, simply because of his faith then this country has truely retreated to historical depths. And that is a grave injustice and a huge loss to this great country. Please people, look at Romney's resume, not his religion. He is more than capable, he is the best candidate we have. Go Mitt!
Huckabee is smart & cheap! On the one hand saying that he is on the hgih road and will pull back the negative ad. Then at the same time, show the reporters and let them watch the attach ad.  Hopefully, they will do the job and spread the words without spending a $$$.  If Mr. Huckabee says he doesn't attach, then please DON'T.  Then why says one thing, then do the other.  Honest or dishonest?  Mr. Huckabee, where are you?  Sorry, I don't buy it!
According to the Bible and the Nicene Creed, Christ ascended to heaven and sat "on the right hand of the Father" after his crucifiction. How does someone stand to the side of himself? The scriptural passages listed above are easily arguable in their context and meaning. There IS only one God of this world, and there IS only one Savior of this world. They are separate, distinct individuals. How else do you explain the human race, the processes of procreation and familial lineage? According to "traditional" Christianity, human existence in this world has little or nothing in common with the interpretation and philosophy of God as it is pronounced in the Nicene Creed. If we are indeed God's children, shouldn't there be some kind of similarity or relevance between our existence here on earth and God's existence in the heavens? Why should it be so different and unrelated? What purpose is there in that? All I hear from traditional Christianity is that God is a everything and nothing at the same time. Huh? I hear all kinds of adjectives to describe God but yet when asked details about who and why he is and there are no answers. The "Mormon" God as you refer to it, is the same God of this human race. We simply believe that further light and knowledge has been given to clear up the lost truths of the Bible and inconsistencies in translations to better understand who God is, and who Christ is. There is only one God, the spiritual father of mankind, who is also the spiritual father of Jesus. The only begotten son in the flesh, was born in order to fulfill the Atonement, a great and infinite sacrifice for mankind. It was the work of his Father, and once it was completed, he ascended to his Father and later re-visited the earth. He now sits at the right hand of the Father, as stated in the Bible. The Holy Spirit still works in conjuction with them to speak of truth on the earth. How hard is it to comprehend these simple truths? It is beautifully simple and makes perfect sense. At least I can know who my God and Savior are, rather than needing a chemical experiement to figure out their existence and prove the Nicene Creed to be correct.
I'm not even a republican but Romney is far more honest and intelligent than Huckleberry...what was up with that "showing" to several dozen reporters of an ad he claimed he didn't want to run? He must think the American people are as ignorant as he is...sorry Huck, we ARE paying attention!
---This is in response to Robert Jorgeson's comments about the Mormon faith---

Why is it so difficult to comprehend a God who has an exalted and perfected body of flesh and bone?  If the ideal form form is an intangible cloud of spirit and vapor, then why did the Savior bother with the Resurrection?  Why did he come back to his body of flesh and bone?

We are the sons and daughters of a loving and kind Heavenly Father.  We are here on earth to learn, to grow, to overcome the challenges of mortality--to learn faith, hope, charity....  None of us are perfect... but in Christ we can all be perfected and redeemed.  Through Christ we can all return again to live with our Heavenly Father.  Yes, we are all children of Divinity--and we all have divinity within us.  God loves us... he WANTS us to become as He is and to share in the blessings of eternity.  

Mainstream Christianity would have us believe that this Earth is the only world of any significance in the entire universe.  There are billions of stars in the Milky Way alone... and there are billions of galaxies like ours in the universe... Could it be that there is only one "God" who watches over 100's of billions of "Earths"?

Just like we can only have 1 Father, WE can only have 1 God... But does that negate the possibility that in the entire universe there are no other perfected beings... but why is it so hard to believe that God our Father passed through the same mortal experience that we passed through?  Would that not make him more sympathetic--more forgiving?

Are we not creatures of body AND spirit?  If mainstream Christianity believes in a God that is merely spirit, without form--vapor... than they believe in a God that is less than man.  Why would God give us bodies anyway?  To punish us?  Why would he give us the experiences of sight, hearing, taste, touch, smell... if he was just going to take it all away and leave us as formless clouds?  

I challenge everyone to take a long hard look at their own beliefs.  I believe we all want to know the truth--and the only source of truth is God.  If you have questions about the purpose of life... why not just ask Him?  Pray.  For those who think "Mormonism" is a cult, why don't you ask God about it?  

For my part, I KNOW Joseph Smith was a prophet, every bit as much as Moses, Abraham, Isaiah, Peter, and so forth.  I know there is a prophet alive here on the Earth today.  Why would God leave us without a mouthpiece?  There are Apostles on the Earth... The Preisthood of God has been restored...

We are all brothers and sisters... I hope we can all learn to love one another...
Mormons are a Cult!
Please Google this and see for yourself what they belive in.

Mormons belive that when Christ died on the cross that it was not enough. And that you had to have Blood Atonement, I belive this comes from the Pitt of Hell!

Brigham Young Blood Atonement Sermon:
Journal of Discourses
Vol. 4, p. 215-221



and suppose that he is overtaken in a gross fault, that he has committed a sin that he knows will deprive him of that exaltation which he desires, and that he cannot attain to it without the shedding of his blood, and also knows that by having his blood shed he will atone for that sin, and be saved and exalted with the Gods, is there a man or woman in this house but what would say, "shed my blood that I may be saved and exalted with the Gods?"
I wish people would stop wasting blog space responding to biggoted bone heads like Robert Jorgenson.  I also wish the aforementioned bone head could tell me what any of his stupid rants have to do with social security, health care, security, foreign policy, or anything else that is actually important.  What a bone head.  And please stop copying and pasting the same stupid crap on blog after blog.  We get it already, you don't like mormons, you don't think mormons are Christians.   Who gives a crap, you socially retarded neanderthol.  

I swear, I'm converting to Mormonism just to spite you.   Besides, if being a mormon means you get to marry a beutiful women and stay married for 38 years, raise a great family, graduate with dual masters from Harvard, build a fortune, save the Olympics and do great things for your country, then I say bring on the magic underwear.  

Mitt is the Man, go Mitt!!!  
Mike Collins, that was a very, very funny posting. Wow! LOL!!!
The entire commnent by Robert Jorgenson is his interpretation of what Mormons believe. His comments are almost entirely false from a Mormons perspective.  But we live in a free country and he can go on saying the Jesus of Mormonism is not the Jesus of the Bible. That is his opinion.  Mine is that they are one and the same and there is plenty of rebuttal to argue the point.

Some day we will all know.  I hope in the mean time we both still believe in the same Ten Commandments and that every individual is important in sight of God. There must be some common ground that we can celebrate.
That Romney's candidacy has stimulated all this discourse on religion is well and good.  Anyone who is truly interested in learning the truth about anything will inquire at the source, not from, as in this case the anti-Mormons.

The only reason there is all of this discussion about the Mormon faith is not so much that Romney is Mormon, but that the Southern Baptists can't bear to see their claim that the Mormon church is a cult be in any way discredited under the magnifying glass of a Mormon U.S. presidency.  Thus we see the anti-Mormon blitz currently at full steam.
Dear Robert Jorgenson:

Why don't any Presbytarians, Methodists, Lutheran's, Catholics, and Baptists who join the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day spend their time and energy trashing their old church--either institutionally or theologically?  Why don't any lifetime members dedicate themselves to critizing, demeaning and attacking other churches.  Really, it is unheard of to have a Mormon go off on his old church, write a book about how bad his old church, call another church or person "non christian" was let alone make a "ministry" out of it.  Why?   When we are filled with the love of Christ there is no desire to attack and tear down--that is why. It is also counseled against by our prophet--it is antithetical to our message of the good news of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ.  I suggest you take a long look at whether you are copying Christ's positive message of good news or whether you are following the Pharisee's and Saducee's example of attack, criticize and fault finding.  Go do some good in the world.  We are surrounded by evil, abuse, addictions, poverty, hunger and those in prison.  Go and serve them and you will find the desire to attack my church will leave your heart.  
Liz from AZ, I agree with you. Too bad R Jorgenson and the psuedo named post above his are robots. They have been brainwashed and can't think for themselves as you have suggested.

Anyway, came across a book recently - "Presidents and Prophets." It chronicles the LDS Church's historical interactions with the US President. In one section it speaks of how Kennedy, a Catholic, was treated from a LDS point of view. Remember at this time, it was a big deal that a Catholic might end up in the White House.
Quoting directly from the book on P. 286, under the 4th paragraph subtitled "1960" it says:
  "Kennedy calls on Church headquarters two more times. In Novemeber, Kennedy squeaks past Nixon, but in Utah, 55 percent poll for Nixon. After the outcome is known, someone remarks to President McKay [Pres. and Prophet of LDS Church at that time], "Doesn't it worry you that a Catholic has been elected President?" The Church President replies, "You know, all I thought about on election day was how wonderful it is that in this great country everybody can go to the polls and vote for a Catholic or a Quaker just as they please and not have to worry about it."

It appears President McKay did not have a problem. Refreshing!!!
Why I cannot support mitt romney

Mitt Romney Flip Flopping!
This guy will do anything for a vote....

Last week, Bay Windows, a Boston gay newspaper, reprinted excerpts from a letter Romney wrote to the Log Cabin Republicans in 1994, hoping to gain the group’s support in his campaign against the veteran Democratic lawmaker and Massachusetts institution.

“If we are to achieve the goals we share, we must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern,” Romney wrote. “My opponent cannot do this. I can and will.”

Romney lost that race by a wide margin, but came closer to defeating Kennedy than had any previous challenger in recent memory. Romney’s support for the gay community did not end with his loss, however, as his political aspirations dictated otherwise. At the Boston Gay Pride Parade in 2002, when he ran for governor, he and his running mate Kerry Healey distributed pink fliers stating, “Mitt and Kerry wish you a great Pride weekend.”


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