Yesterday, we spent some time with the so-called second tier on the Dem side.
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First Read

Hasn't anyone one been doing this all along?  Does each candidate not have an assigned reporter?

"By the way, the poll also indicates that the possibility of Paul topping two major candidates -- Rudy and Thompson -- is very real. And if that happens, what does it mean?"

It means that the MSM propaganda machine is failing. It has always been "very real" and the MSM have been lying about it for months.

I wish I could be excited about Obama.  I do think that MSNBC, and especially Chris Mathews have been O-Groupies for a time.  I am not leaning towards O and find his "semi preachy crap" demeaning.

It's Obama stupid!  I am a three time Vet of the IRAQI war...I am now a state employee...I have three kids and a mortgage.  Bottom line--this guy inspires me, he has the potential to light a fire under our younger generation...just like the Kennedy's did.

I am a Canadian political science student focusing on International Relations and I truly believe that Americans are more reasonable and intelligent than in the past and will look past race and gender to determine who they would like to represent them in the White House.  I am female and I applaud any woman who has the drive to run for president, however, the fact that her husband Bill Clinton, who so terribly goofed up his stay in the White House, has too much involvement in her campaign.  Sometimes, I wonder who really is running for president, him or her.  I just dont trust that.  Something just seems real fishy when he makes bold statements about him and Bush going off to do Int'l work.  They really believe they have this thing in the bag.  I hope the American public can see through their ruse.  Like I said, I just dont trust them. Obama I like, he appears focused and deserves a chance to prove himself.  I like the fact he is not being negative.  Hillary need to back off the cheap shots.  She tries to be subtle but we are not fools we see right through them. I strongly believe that if Hillary is elected, America will be receiving a very democratic form of republican administration...sigh!

Obama is pulling ahead because his message about change is the only one that makes sense.  Voters united behind a working majority is our best and only hope for getting things done in DC. A two minute interview on CBS yesterday clearly shows Obamas vision and strength of character and why he will win.

Yeah, MSM selective reporting and polling just google Frank Lunzt and learn about how corrupt polling is or for that matter who is paying for the polls the numbers they want!

No Opinions just the facts please MSM!
1. Ron Paul out raises all Republicans 4th quarter 2007'

2. Ron Paul Wins the Most Straw polls!

3. Ron Paul landslide lead in AOL National Poll!

4. Ron Paul wins National Caucus with 62.5 % Win and a 100% win in Kansas City!

5. Ron Paul has the most hits on the internet the most friends the most meet ups etc etc etc.....

6. Yeah the MSM can ignore the American People but we vote the winners not the MSM!

I think that the DMR poll (as do all polls) actually underestimates Obama's support as it can't acct. for the 'no land-line' student population who overwhelmingly support Obama.  Start those engines.  Fired up!  Ready to go!  It's all about Iowa!
Obama '08

I just spent three days in Iowa -- mark my words, Ron Paul will come in at least fourth and perhaps even third.

If Biden and Richardson were drawing first-tier crowds, that seems to be a greater indication of their support than polls that almost everyone with any knowledge of the Iowa caucuses agrees are chronically inaccurate.  But the MSM does not want to focus on that too much since they have put all their eggs in the Clinton/Obama/Edwards baskets.  

With respect to the DMR poll, congrats to Obama for pulling ahead of the margin of error for the first time.  Perhaps it will be telling.

Obama all the way!I've been waiting for someone to get me inspired.I've found him.Edwards is a fake and HRC is soooo yesterday.

If you're a Democrat, you should be THRILLED that one of your guys appears to be attracting Independents and non-idealogue Republicans.

It should send a crystal-clear message:  he's the most electable.  Period.  

Edwards won't have enough money to compete long-term.

HRC's one claim to the Presidency (her "experience") will look like my paper did this morning after the dog got to it: shredded.  Add to that the fact that from day 1 of a national Presidential campaign, 50% of Americans will NOT vote for her (not because she's a woman but because she's a divisive phony).  She's not electable.

If the Ron Paul works his way into a fourth or third place finish in Iowa, will that give him a big boost nationally? (The same observation often made about Obama, a boost from "legitimizing" a vote for him, should also apply to Paul.) Will Fox News then include Paul in their Jan 6 Forum, or would he still fail to pass some unpublished litmus test? If Obama wins Iowa, could he sweep the field after follow-up wins in NH & SC? If so, who might win for the Republicans in the general election?

Bring it on.. hillaryclinton.com

Yepsin is right to emphasize the fluid nature of this race.   The poll relied on voters who have landline phones, and many Obama voters do NOT use landlines.   This problem is even more relevant to the other polls, like the one HRC's campaign is citing which shows her leading with 4 points.
Obama's lead is double the margin of error.   With the prediction of good weather, so long as people still attend(and they SHOULD exercise their God-given right, I think Obama has a fantastic shot.  Let's just see what HRC and JE's campaigns, HRC's especially, do when in panic mode.   I smell some attacks coming from some 527.

I'm glad this poll shows Senator Obama in the lead - only time will tell if it's true, but I really hope it is! That being said, it's still a 3 way race and it's still anybody's game - can't wait til January 3rd!

Obama, the republican canidate!
The GOP wants the weakest canidate for the democratic nominee

THat's OBAMA.

(also note that First read skipped CLinton being the lead among Democrats>>>LOL)

Chuck Todd, I have been following your comment and your move. You should read your comment first before airing it out. There is no professional marks at all. You will be the best Chris Matthew's successor someday once he out of the picture, have a great career in selling your heart and soul. Face the God, please. You just can't help yourself that you are Obama's kisser. Shame on you. I am not mad about the comment. I am mad about the way you comment. Some people told me DON'T TRUST FIRST READ, now I get it. Happy new year.

Congratulations to Barack Obama!! 32% to 25% for Clinton and 24% for Edwards!!The Des Moines Register IS the GOLD STANDARD of Iowa Caucus polls. Their track record for getting the final results RIGHT is impeccable. In 2004, they were the poll that correctly predicted the Kerry win, Edwards second, and Dean third outcome. Saw the person in charge of the poll on CSPAN and she was very confident in their results. She also conducted the 100% accurate 2004 poll.

Happy New Year to everyone! And to all of the other enthusiastic Obama supporters out there, congratulations!! Looks like our candidate has a really good chance of winning Iowa! And as Chuck Todd has said all this political season, if Obama wins in Iowa, he will be very hard to stop!!

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Rankin, a few weeks ago, the MSM began saying that third place in IA meant something.

However, if it's Paul it will suddenly be irrelevant.

Even if the results are like this:

Undecided - 26%
Paul - 22%
Huckabee - 20%
Romney - 19%
McCain - 5%
Thompson - 4%
Giuliani - 4%

Then the MSM headline will be:

Huckabee edges out Romney.  McCain, Thompson, Giuliani way behind.  Paul gets fewer votes than "undecided."  

I like Howard Fineman, but for an example of MSM bias... check out his interview of Dr. Paul.  The look on Fineman's face when he interviewed Dr. Paul was unbelievable. At times during the interview, his distaste for the good Doctor was quite obvious.

A new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll out this morning has Clinton and Obama virtually tied for the lead in Iowa: Clinton is at 33 percent, Obama is at 28 percent, and Edwards trails with 22 percent.

MSNBC Chris Matthews is happy about this poll, he loves Obama, ever watch his biased show?
Obama more flip flopping and lies! His voting record shows that he supports the war, voted twice in 2006 against bringing America's troops back home.  He votes for war appropriations as if giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater is his sworn duty.  His latest bit of posturing S 433 allows the Bush Administration to suspend any troop withdrawal, which if not suspended, still keeps the troops in Iraq for a long time to come.  The suspension is written right into Section 4 (b).  The bill tells Bush to bring the troops home some day unless he doesn't want to.  The very name of the bill, "Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007" is a lie.  This is par for the course for Obama. Bruce Dixon and Glen Ford of the Black Agenda Report have written articles exposing Obama's fraud in pretending to represent the interests of African-American voters.  Before anyone believes that Obama cares about African-Americans, they should read,  "Barack Obama and the Winds of War," "Putting Black Faces on Imperial Aggression," "Barack Obama: the Mania and the Mirage," "Barack Obama: Hypocrisy on Health Care," "The Barack and Hillary Show Plays Selma," "Black America's Real Issue With Barack Obama," and "Barack Obama vs. Charles Hamilton Houston."    From these articles and others, readers can see Obama come down on the side of the oppressors of African-Americans.  For someone whose ancestors owned black slaves, Obama tries to put pressure on African-Americans and fails. Al Sharpton's reaction to pressure to back Obama was, "I'm not going to be cajoled or intimidated by any candidate not for my support."  Instead of supporting African American's Obama is into lying to them and intimidating them.  What makes him different than others who oppress African-Americans? Paul Street exposes the real Barack Obama very clearly in his article, "The Obama Illusion."  Street shows how Obama, a Hamiltonian believer in free trade and supporters of globalization has lent his support to the "...Hamilton Project, formed by corporate-neoliberal Citigroup chair Robert Rubin and other 'Wall Street Democrats' to counter populist rebellion against corporate tendencies within the Democratic Party... ," how Obama provided valuable assistance to pro-war candidates (such as Joe Lieberman), and how he criticized the filibuster proceedings against Samuel Alito.  Street shows how Obama voted for "... a business-friendly 'tort reform' bill that rolls back working peoples' ability to obtain reasonable redress and compensation..." from corporations.   Obama considers single payer universal health care too socialist and has stated that he prefers voluntary solutions.  Street's article goes on to discuss Obama's support for other aspects of the neo-con agenda, including neo-con propaganda against African-American culture.

Obama voted to bring low-cost foreign labor into New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. This was a slap in the face against the African-Americans who were displaced in that city.  Obama also voted to place Michael Cheftoff, the man responsible for the Katrina catastrophe, in charge of Homeland Security.  Obama voted for the bills that gave Blackwater the funding they needed to shoot the people of New Orleans who were only trying to save their own lives.  He voted to allow Michael Chetoff to waive all laws, including murder, torture and kidnapping.

In voting for the Real ID Act, Obama voted to  end political asylum for people seeking shelter in this country because of  terrorism at home.

African-Americans consider Dennis Kucinich, not Obama,  to be their candidate.  See Bruce Dixon's article "Is Dennis Kucinich the "black candidate?"

Obama voted more than five times for USA-PATRIOT's renewal.  This is a bill that is patently offensive to most Americans.  City after city has passed resolutions condemning USA-PATRIOT.  Obama chose to side with tyranny over freedom and Bush over the people on this issue.  The Real ID Act, which would allow Michael Cheftoff to declare martial law and imprison all Americans, was supported by Obama, as noted above.

Obama's record on choice is less than 50%.   He pretends to be pro-choice while voting for anti-choice justices who have vowed to end choice.  Obama even voted for cloture on Priscilla Owen, a justice Alberto Gonzales felt was too far to the right.

The De Moins Register poll is "bogus". The real "momentum" right "now" is going to Hillary Clinton. come see why... hillaryclinton.com

10 Barack Obama Facts That Will Impress Your Yale Friends

Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, August 4, 1961.

Barack studied law at Harvard University, where he became the first African American president of the Harvard Law Review.

In the first month of the newly Democratic-controlled 110th Congress, Obama worked with Russ Feingold (D–WI) to eliminate gifts of travel on corporate jets by lobbyists to members of Congress and require disclosure of bundled campaign contributions under the "Honest Leadership and Open Government Act", which was signed into law in September 2007.

Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate in 1996.

Before announcing his presidential candidacy, he began a well-publicized effort to quit smoking. "I've never been a heavy smoker," Obama told the Chicago Tribune. "I've quit periodically over the last several years. I've got an ironclad demand from my wife that in the stresses of the campaign I don't succumb. I've been chewing Nicorette strenuously.”

Obama's mother died of ovarian cancer a few months after the publication of his 1995 memoir, Dreams from My Father.

Obama wrote and delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston, Massachusetts, while still serving as a state legislator.

Obama's parents separated when he was two years old and later divorced.

Obama met his future wife Michelle Robinson in 1988 when he was employed as a summer associate at the Chicago law firm of Sidley & Austin.

Obama sponsored 152 bills and resolutions brought before the 109th Congress in 2005 and 2006, and cosponsored another 427.

From:

http://www.cattlenetwork.com/content.asp?contentid=186960

Ron Paul is a loon.  

It's interesting that the Obama blog completely downplayed the DMR poll, listing all the reasons why it would be inaccurate.  Of course, they also said that it would be wrong unless it showed him ahead.  

Talk about hedging your bets.  If we are not ahead in the poll, it's because the poll is faulty.  If we are ahead in the poll, then the poll is a great indication of our support.  

Obama fans, this Des Moines Register poll showing him winning by 7 points is amazing He's outside the margin of error! Wow! Wow! Wow!

This is the all-important poll. This is the poll that got it right in 2004 by predicting the Kerry win. This poll is such great news for the Obama campaign, because if you have followed these caucuses in the past, you know that this is the poll that is really taken seriously because of its accuracy and reliability in predicting the final outcome as to who the winner will be.

I'm doing my happy dance!! Go, Obama!!

The only reason Obama has gained momentum is because of the likes of Chris Matthews.  These news groupies (they're certainly not reporters) refuse to address Obama on TUCC-Chicago and promotion of their "Black Values System" - his church's racist agenda, and his pastor's ties with Louis Farakkhan.  The very recent murder of their gay choir director was buried by the press.  It is scary that MSM is handing the entire country the mentality and lifestyle of the Southside of Chicago. I never thought I would be praying for a Republican landslide.  Meanwhile, back at the ranch - Pakistan is imploding with nuclear warheads, and MSM is leading a chorus of "All We Need Is Love" to the latest Obama "hope/hype".  When we so desparately need a President that undertands REAL issues and has experience in foreign affairs - again, MSM is doing us in by promoting an "American Idol" political show. Makes you wonder whose side they are on, doesn't it?

Wow! Hillary supporters quoting George Bush!Bring it on.. hillaryclinton.com  Now Hillary's supporters have stooped so low that they use George Bush's slogans he used to take this nation to an endless war in Iraq. Which as we all know Hillary spoke forcefully in support of prior to her supporting vote. Hillary Clinton. More of the same.

The youth movrment in Iowa, (The non-land line studets,etc) will push Obama Way over the top, with Edwards a close second andHRC somewhat of a distand 3rd. We cannot have another republicrat in the Whitehouse... We need change, and change NOW!!!

So Obama wins Iowa,he will fizzle out, look at the national polls.  
Also Americans and there are plenty of strong, rich Americans who will not stand for an inexperienced, novice jut out of the Illinois State Senate to be in charge of our Country.  How crazy are you people and all of my fellow Iowans who support him?
He is incapable of leading our country just as Mike Huckabee is.
Mike Bloomberg and Chuck Hagel are poised to run on an Independent ticket should Obama and Huckabee by some slim chance get the nominations, that won't happen though. and Mike Huckabee is such a joke and a farce also.
The nomination will come down to Hillary Clinton and
Mitt Romney.  They are the most qualified across the Board.  Dream on Obama supporters, he's not gonna cut it, I doubt he will even in Iowa but we'll see. David Yepsin of the Des Moines Register even doubts those latest Polls are accurate.

And four other polls done at the same time put Clinton in the lead.  An average of polls, including this one puts her in the lead as well.  These numbers count on record numbers of men, independents, republicans and young people to turn out for the Iowa caucuses in numbers never before seen in history.  That's a lot of bets to place.  But what does the media report today???  Not the four other polls based on a more reliable demographic, the Demoines reegister poll, which was out by 11% last time for the democratic race.  I predict Obama will come third, Clinton first.  This election will change a lot of things about history, youth voter turnout, male voter turnout during a college bowl game and republican/independent turn out for Democratic caucus wont be any of them.

Wasn't Hillary up in the polls 2-1 one week a ago? What ever happened to this 'inevitability' of hers? How does the 'inevitable' candidate manage to lose the first two primary states?

What does a political junkie do on New Year's Eve?

Take a break from partying at 10PM to check their computer for the release of the all-important Des Moines Register poll!

Yes, I actually did that last night! And I was so thrilled when I saw Barack Obama with 32%!! He has a seven point lead over Hillary, and eight over Edwards!

Why did I take the time to check this particular poll? Because, as a certifiable political junkie, I know that this poll is THE poll. This poll has an outstanding record of predicting the winner of the Iowa Caucuses. If this poll shows Obama not just winning, but leading by seven points, (well outside the margin of error), then you can be pretty confident that he is going to win!

It was a very good New Year's Eve for us Obama supporters!  

I was reading the blogs on Obama's site yesterday, and everyone was anxiously waiting for this poll.  There were rumors out there, and people were actually calling the Des Moines Register to find out if the poll had been released yet.  Obama's supporters are FIRED UP!!!!  

The CNN poll that just came out this morning has very different results in Iowa, with Clinton and Romney ahead: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2008/01/7-days-from-new-hampshire-all-eyes-are.html

I wonder what JE and HC would have said if the DMR had them in the lead?  I don't trust the CNN polls since they are always slanted to benefit Hilary.

Only time will tell.  I wonder what the whining will be when Obama wins Iowa?  I guess they'll poo poo that too.

Regarding the list of facts about Obama listed above, the poster overlooked the most important FACT about his education, namely that the COLLEGE he graduated from was...

COLUMBIA!

Roar Lion Roar!

To those who thinks Chris Mathews and Chuck Todd are pro Obama.  What is it?  You want all the media to be pro Clinton.  CNN is definitely pro Clinton.  It is obvious that Wolf Blitzer does not like Obama.  The things Blitzer says and how he says it gives me the impression he is racist.  What do you have to say about that?

Obama is probably a  great guy. To be honest, I like him better than Edwards because Edwards seems obessed with being president. However, it won't happen. I am italian and know I don't stand a chance of being president if qualified. Neither does a jew or hispanic or muslim, etc. Biden is Hillary's worst nightmare because he wrote half of the bills and the kosovo plan that Clinton gets credit for. That is why him and Hill are such good friends. Biden is the only Dem who can beat her and would probably pick Hagel as V.P.My prediction 1)Hillary, 2.) Edwards, and 3.) Biden.  

Daniel of NY what do you expect from CNN polls. As I mentioned earlier, they are pro Clinton.  One should believe the Des Moines Register polls, after all they endorsed Clinton and if they were going to skew the polls, it would be in her favor.

As an african i had  tried to understand the strategy of Clinton Bill on the issue of his wife intervention on the genocide, and frankly i did not see the intervention on behalf of the victim of genocide ,what i know is that the Clintons Hillary and Bill went to Rwanda as tourist to visite the Genocide Memorial and they said Sorry to have not acted quickly to stop the gencide,now i do not know  the visite to the memorial sight qualify Hillary to have experience on crisis around the world and remenber these were women being Killed while she was the first lady where was her compassion for fellow women. thanks

As an african i had  tried to understand the strategy of Clinton Bill on the issue of his wife intervention on the genocide, and frankly i did not see the intervention on behalf of the victim of genocide ,what i know is that the Clintons Hillary and Bill went to Rwanda as tourist to visite the Genocide Memorial and they said Sorry to have not acted quickly to stop the gencide,now i do not know  the visite to the memorial sight qualify Hillary to have experience on crisis around the world and remenber these were women being Killed while she was the first lady where was her compassion for fellow women. thanks

To Michael from New Jersey:

Do not be afraid - you can be anything you want to be - the only thing holding you back is you! We will never get something new if we don't even try. Of all the reasons to support or not support Senator Obama, the color of his skin is not one of them.

Does anyone really think that only 55% of those present at the Democratic caucuses will be Democrats- and the rest will be independants with 5% Republicans?  Thats the turnout assumption made by the new register poll.  That poll they did in 04- made no such assumption - because if it had, it would have been off.  Anyone reading this should look up what percantage of Democrat caucus goers in 04 were Indepedants or Republicans.  Trust me - it ain't nowhere near 45%.  Furthermore - the DMR poll assumes far to great a youth participation.  

It's like the Stuart and Tudor dynasties...Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton...America has had enough of them...time for a change!!

I can't wait for caucus night.  Everyone from both sides will be in for surprises and we'll see how wrong the MSM has been.

Anyone claiming Hillary somehow has the most "experience" because she had tea with a few dignitaries is deluding themselves. If you want experience, vote for Biden, Dodd, or Richardson. All three have more real experience than Hillary. If you want change, vote for Edwards or Obama. If you want 8 more years of corporate teat-sucking, vote for Hillary.

I feel sorry for the GOP, they really have a rogues gallery of unelectable candidates this year, and the only one with a chance of winning (Guliani) the evangelicals will stop themselves. Romney can't duck his flip-flopper act. Huckabee is a religious zealot with a lot of fake charm. Ron Paul is a closet white supremacist. Fred Thompson is too lazy to be bothered.

Ron Paul on foreign policy. Let's just get out of there and look after Americans.

That's like sticking your head in the sand so someone can kick you in the ass that much harder.

Thank you: Jade Pl. Davenport IA, tuck,realityville, kansas, Bonnie, Houston, TX.........

What would this campaign be without smears from the Clinton camp ?
Hillary said: 'Now the fun part begins'.....
What do you think THAT meant ?
Smears from Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerry, and Hillary's own campaign manager, Mark Penn on national TV.


Scott, Iowa, C.B., Concerned Citizen, Sioux City, IA....
Keep on sniveling !! It sounds like a real tragedy when your candidate isn't on top.....

It's only one poll, but the most reliable
A 7% win in the first real contest would completely shake up the race
It would make Obama the front runner
It would give Obama REAL MOMENTUM going into NH
A win there would start to strip away the African American support from Hillary and bring them to Obama
That's already started happening in South Carolina
(Thank you, Oprah !!)

Come on back, Oprah !!
Let's do a couple more tours !!


In 2000 and 2004 we nominated some real stiffs
Gore-Lieberman ?  John Kerry ?
WE CAN DO BETTER !!

Obama/Edwards '08
Real Integrity, Real Change

bc Indiana --> Ron Paul on foreign policy. Let's just get out of there and look after Americans.

That's like sticking your head in the sand so someone can kick you in the ass that much harder. <--


Perfect analogy!

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