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An Iowa bounce in NH? We'll see

Posted: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:00 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
MANCHESTER, NH -- New Hampshire voters woke up today and saw a headline in the Union Leader that read: “Iowa upset.” Now the question is: What will be the impact on what has lately been a very fluid race in the first-in-the-nation primary state.

According to Andy Smith, pollster for the University of New Hampshire, about 38% of Democrats and 36% of Republicans here say they will make up their mind over the coming weekend, or even as late as election day. That number is higher than was indicated by exit polls in 2000 and 2004.

Smith’s polling has shown that a very small number of voters -- less than 4% -- said the Iowa result would impact their decision. But, he added, the reality may be different. “I think the loser of Iowa, both expected winners and those who don't meet media expectations, take a hit,” he said in an email earlier this week. 

That is more likely in the Democratic race, he says, because the Democratic electorates in New Hampshire and Iowa tend to be similar, while the Iowa Republican is “much more socially conservative” than his or her Granite State counterpart. In fact, no Republican has won both Iowa and New Hampshire in the modern primary era, except for incumbent presidents.

That’s a fact John McCain’s campaign is certainly hoping repeats itself. The candidate himself said last night that it was unclear what the result would mean. “I think New Hampshire voters are going to decide interdependently in many ways, but also independently of what is happening in another state,” he said.

Adding to the dynamic is the fact that undeclared voters can choose either ballot, Republican or Democratic, on Tuesday. McCain has been making a play for these voters -- who cemented his margin of victory in 2000 -- and that means tweaking Republicans and Democrats alike. Just last week, he called Obama’s claim that the current situation in Pakistan was partly a result of America taking its eye off the ball in Afghanistan a sign of “inexperience.” Most polling has shown that these voters will overwhelmingly choose a Democratic ballot, however, and Smith says only a small fraction of undeclared voters were undecided about which primary to vote in.

Unique this year is that the gap between these first two contests is smaller -- five days instead of eight. Smith says that narrower gap makes it harder for losing candidates to recover. One could argue, however, that the shorter gap also may hurt Huckabee somewhat, since he has more ground to make up in New Hampshire than Obama, who actually leads Clinton in some state polls. And Obama has a large organization and field offices throughout the state, while Huckabee had only recently begun building on what was a bare-bones staff in the Granite State.

But as Secretary of State Bill Gardner said in a previous interview, “five days is not eight days, but it’s better than one day, or two days, or three days.” And during a conversation in his office earlier this week, he noted that there would be ample opportunities for candidates to make their case, particularly in live, televised debates on Saturday. Gardner, the guardian of primary tradition, added that there is always a “moment” in this period between the first contests that will really seal the deal for voters one way or the other with a candidate, that intangible “something,” as he put it.

A smaller debate field on Saturday is certain to increase the back-and-forth among candidates, possibly leading to such a moment. We’ve seen the field narrow on the Democratic side, with Biden and Dodd dropping out. Smith says there isn’t enough Dodd or Biden support to really make a difference, however

In the end, what will most likely be the key, as it always has been in New Hampshire, is that one-to-one voter contact. And that’s why candidates are cramming as many retail stops onto their schedules as possible in the days ahead.

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All I know, is that Obama passed HALF A MILLION DONORS on the same day he WON IOWA by almost 10% over Hillary.

And he didn't just win Iowa, he won EVERY major demographic.  Old people.  Young people.  Republicans.  Independents.  Women.  Minorities.  Some by small margins, some by VERY LARGE margins.

The Change-Train is a'coming and it's not stoppin' any time soon!  Get on while you still can!

I expect him to pull New Hampshire by at least 5%.  10% wouldn't surprise me one bit.  They sure got a lot of independents there.
Obama is going to win NH with the same kind of excitement, energy, and independent support that led him to victory in Iowa. After that, he has the money and the organization to continue delivering victories. Note to Hillary and the pro-corporate, pro-Iraq War, pro-DLC, pro-push polling crowd in the Democratic Party: your days are numbered.

To quote Dean, it's time for "the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party" to have its day in the sun.
Hey Ron.....Iowa doesn't guaranty Obama anything.
Go check the numbers on people who won The Iowa Caucus....not so good when it comes to winning their party's nomination, or for that matter, the general election. (3 out of the last 4 Presidents LOST The Iowa Caucus on their first try, and the one guy who did win it.....LOST his bid for RE-election to the White House.)
Just make sure your train doesn't get derailed..... and you don't get left standing at the station when The Hillary Express comes through.
It aint over 'til it's over baby, and this 'gig' is just gettin' started!
Hillary for President 2008!
Elections are referundums about the future not the past. HRC is representative of that, if she were elected president the next4-8 years would be a rehash of 1990's. We need a clean break and I think the country is ready to try something new. With Obama we might finally get a president for the 21st century. Go Obama!
Too bad we're not all Independents. Like we're all Americans, first. The two parties have divided our nation, meeting the needs of their lobbyists.

Forget about meeting "media expectations." Media has assumed too much control of our elections, simply because they are the outlet candidates have used for too long to get their message out to voters. I hope internet becomes the #1 method of delivery, and takes the expensive media control and "meet[ing] media expectations" away from America's voting process. (sorry msnbc/still love ya!)

These days I am leaning more toward John McCain on the GOP ticket. He is far more experienced to be a war time president. If Huckabee gathers an excellent cabinet/and McCain, too, for that matter/he could probably fill the job.

The reason I say Huckabee over Romney is because Romney has been very deceptive and very rude with (Americans) voters. There's no reason to expect any better as president. He cannot control his emotional outbursts and if his 'faith' is too touchy for him--I sure can't see Romney handling the bee'-hinds he would've had to deal with on the international scene, as president.

Romney has made his own millions taking jobs AWAY from Americans with his Forced buy outs of American companies. Huckabee helped create thousands of jobs for 'his' state of Arkansas and was re-elected, a GOP in a DEM state. Romney CANNOT say the same thing. During Romney's 4 year term, Massachusetts posted ZERO GAIN in employed residents and was 3rd from bottom in creating new jobs--would've been 2nd but Katrina destroyed Louisiana. Romney's own record speaks for itself. Take a look at http://www.massresistance.org
(a Conservative group in Massachusetts. Click on "The Romney Deception" for a documented report).

Romney has shown No reason to place any 'faith' in him--especially a man who will not even stand by his own 'faith,' who hides behind the God of "Christians"--ALL of whose Creeds LDS teach are ABOMINATION to their God. (eg [LDS]"Pearl of Great Price," JS-H 1:9). Romney is coward. We don't have to be "Christian" to see that. "Baptists" aren't the only ones who know LDS teachings--hey? WHERE do LDS get it that "Baptists know LDS teachings inside and out?" I know some 'Baptists' who don't know anything about LDS. How about all the LDS who see Romney being a coward/confusing? Is LDS testimony only good inside LDS testimony meetings? Not before the world? Even the present LDS prophet/seer/revelator stated, in "Church News," June 20, 1998: "The 'traditional Christ' of whom they ["outside the (lds)church"] speak is not the christ of whom I speak." So, come on Mitt. Get your courage up. America needs at least a brave president. Even lil' George W. has Romney beat in the courage department.

The issue isn't religion, it is Romney's deception and cowardice, his career of taking AWAY from America, not building it up. Which reminds me...

LDS members make a "vow of the most solemn kind" before the heavens and earth to "BUILD UP" "SUSTAIN" "UPHOLD" "CHERISH" NO nation on Earth. ONLY LDS "kingdom." (eg repeated in "Ensign" Nov. 2000). Romney seems to be holding pretty true to this vow, purposefully destroying American incomes and shipping his millions offshore. Great job Rom. Just not U.S. president material. Put your "values" in a bottle and ship them to the Caymans with your millions. :)

PEOPLE WHO PLAGIARIZE ME, it will be appreciated if you will at least be honorable and inform readers with a little note that "_____" wrote it, and give a link (cut and paste web address from "original" page)back to "original" thread. Thank you!  :)  keep smiling! spread the word! vote 2008!
I'm on board the CHANGE TRAIN -- its about time. Thank you Sen. Obama for having the vision and courage to run for president.
I think that no matter how you cut it, that the race for the democratic nomination is going to be a long haul and that is a good thing for whoever wins the nomination.  I think that 4-years ago the rush to anoint John Kerry caused many to overlook some of Kerry’s negatives that were laid out by the republicans in the general election.  Now as the field narrows we will see that remaining candidates vetted properly over the next month or so.

I also believe that Iowa earned the right to be first in the nation by the shear quantity of interest and participation.
Hillary is going to come back strong and win in NH.
The fat lady is not even in the building yet. When the fat lady sings, then call me to panic, until then, I'll go back to my nap.
McCain is going to get all the Independents because Obama is a liberal extremist.
Entrance polls

Obama beat Clinton among women 35% to 30%
Obama beat Edwards among voters in union households 30%-24%
Obama beat Clinton and Edwards among voters of almost every income level (Obama and Clinton tied among voters who make $15-30,000)
As many voters age 17-29 as voters 65 and older participated last night -- in previous years senior participation has been 5-times greater than younger voters.
Obama beat Edwards and Clinton among voters who want change (51%-20%-19%)
Despite countless attacks and hundreds of thousands of dollars in negative mail, TV, and radio, Obama beat Clinton and Edwards (34%-30%-27%) among voters who say health care is the most important issue
Obama won among those who said the economy was the most important issue (36%-26%-26%)
Obama won over Clinton and Edwards (35%-26%-17%) among those who said Iraq was the most important issue
Won across the ideological spectrum – winning among liberals, moderates and conservatives
Won among high income and lower income voters among voters with household income below $50,000 (34%-32%-19%) and among those over $50,000 (41%-19%-28%)
Also won among the 82% of voters who said Pakistan was “very or somewhat important”

Its time for this country to back a youthful candidate with new ideas for all of the people of this country.  Carisma plays a major role in elections and Obama has the most carisma of any candidate in decades.  Experience is not gained just because you lived in the White House.  Obama provides new hope for our great nation
Barack Obama for President of the United States of America.
Iowa was a bummer for Hillary no doubt. However, I don't agree with the post that Obama won every demographic. He didn't. In fact, Clinton won lots of counties including mine. In my precinct she got half of the delegates. She won way more counties than Edwards. Obama won in most of the counties next to Illinois. Obama is a great speaker...however, I think that is all he is. Clinton has the track record to prove that she can and will be a great president.


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