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Clinton's taking responsibility

Posted: Friday, January 04, 2008 2:07 PM by firstread

From NBC’s Andy Merten
In her first major press conference since a third-place finish in the Iowa caucuses last night, Hillary Clinton said that she takes responsibility for not fully tapping into the power of the youth vote in the Hawkeye state, and reiterated past statements about her difficulties there.

“I did very, very well with people over 45,” she told a slew of reporters at the Gala Diner in Manchester.  “I didn’t do as well with people under 30, and I take responsibility for that.  So I’m going to, in the next five days, do as much as I can to talk about my record in creating opportunities for young people.”

And when questioned about her spiral from presumptive frontrunner to third-place finisher, Clinton rebuked the notion.  “I was never a frontrunner of any significance in Iowa; I knew it was always going to be hard for me,” she said, citing Edwards’ near-constant presence in the state since 2004 and Obama’s proximity in Illinois – excuses that she and her husband used in the weeks leading up to the caucuses

“This is a new day, a new state,” she went on, saying that the New Hampshire primary process does not leave voters “disenfranchised,” in the same way Iowa’s late-night caucusing process does.

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Hillary just does not "get it".

She is done...stick a fork in her.
I still don't understand why they are saying she was in 3rd place in Iowa, when she was awarded the 2d largest number of Iowa delegate, 17, behind Obama's 18.  And, insofar as popular vote counts [and we know it doesn't], she was only .3% behind Edwards, hardly a definitive defeat for her, unlike what happened to the repukes in their caucus.
she went on, saying that the New Hampshire primary process does not leave voters “disenfranchised,” in the same way Iowa’s late-night caucusing process does -  

There you go...the divisive first family.  "take responsibility" then go on to blame the process or someone else in the next breath.  
"I was never a frontrunner of any significance in Iowa; "

So what's her excuse for tanking from 20+ over Obama in New Hampshire to 5 over (tied/margin of error)?
Andy Merten - If she's still delivering the old excuses (and some new ones), she's not taking responsiblity for anything.
Note to Hillary: democrats and independents (such as myself) want REAL CHANGE.  We've had 16 yrs of Clinton-Bush (8 painful Bush yrs...) and we want to move on.  Please step aside and bake a fresh batch of cookies for Obama.  Cheers.
Pat,It is because she was third place. They are referring to popular vote as you point out. The delegate vote simple makes her a loser. The delegate vote selects a winner and if you do not win second place translates to nothing. The statistical significance of popular is note worthy because it may show a trend for Hillary or others in that state if they and not the Iowa primary winner makes it to the general election. Get out of New York once in a while there is a whole world outside of your democratic borough. It is a long way from over even for Hillary.
She finished less than a 1% behind Edwards plus got more Delegates. Edwards will attack her now. Also, she has more than 100 delegates more than Obama already.
Not only did Senator Clinton not appeal to the youth vote, she and her surrogates actively tried to suppress the youth vote by saying that out-of-state Iowa students shouldn't exercise their right to vote. Not a smart strategy in hindsight, huh?
Just wait and watch.  NH will be a different story.
"Shoot, do you think I was in this to win?"
I'm not sure I get all the hype here.  Mr. Obama got less than 1000 votes in a caucus.  How does that swing momentum?  Why is this real news?  I don't hear any message here.  I would wait for a more sizable sample of voters before I would make any conclusion.
All together now.... "WAAAAAAAAHHHH!"
I am a female nurse and I know there were thousands of us that could not go to the caucuses last night because we had to work the evening shift(unlike the stay at home cookie baking oprah watching women who made to the caucus and voted againts a woman). And our votes would have gone to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
I hope New Hampshire women will not let us working women down like the Iowans did. Pls stand up for us in New Hampshire. Thank You

Might I suggest that those of us who are Hillary constituents send her an email requesting that she exit the race now, thereby saving herself further embarrassment, and allowing Obama to carry the progressive torch forward. Bill and Hillary: you're standing in the way of true progress.
So Iowa "disenfranchises" voters now that she isn't trying to get people to caucus for her? Where was that statement in the weeks leading up to the event?
The Hillary Haters have taken a big toll ... and left America with the scary possibility of having an untried, inexperienced (though very nice and quite the spirited spinner) fellow as president for the next 4 years. Oh, America ... Your men AND women are as backward when it comes to women as any provincial Bedouin...

"I was never frontrunner" ... typical Clinton spin.  This is why she is done.  Obama inspires.  Go
k.,,, your kind that confuses excuses with facts really belong in the bushleague column.
Ron, the most recent New Hampshire poll in fact has Clinton up by 12%. I for one am actually thinking Obama's win will not catapult him to an easy win in the Granite State, but rather bring the race into an intense dead heat. Clinton needs to secure the majority of Democrats, young and old; Obama needs to make sure the Independents flock his way (and not to John McCain in the GOP race), and if he can get the majority of Democrats (which he did, by 1% last night) again, he should secure it. But, I think New Hampshire might be far closer than some pundits are suggesting, and keep in mind there's a NH debate this Saturday that could help/hurt Clinton/Obama.
Simple minded Mitt Romney thought he could flip flop and spend wildly to win in Iowa and probably hasn't learned a thing. The press now needs to engage real Q & A with affable but alos simple minded Huckabee to get his specific vision of what he would do with the most powerful office in the world.
The same goes for Obama--he like sthe sound of his own voice but has not been pressed for specifics and has been allowed a certain honeymoon period with the press he doesn't deserve. If the pundits actually beleive this countries voters will elect any black man the pundits are clueless. Sadly America will not vote for a black over a white no matter how great a leader the black one is or where he stands on the issues. The republicans would love to see Obama nominated by the Democrats and many of them went to Democrat caucuses in Iowa and inflated his numbers beyond any reality. Iowa republicans that voted fro Bush twice and raised their hand for Obama in the Democrat caucuses are setting the Democrats up. They have no intention on actually voting for any Democrat in a bona fide election. GET REAL!!
I followed on C-span the caucus in a Des Moines precint. In the beginning, based on the number of participants Clinton got about 20% of votes, Obama 33%, Edwards about 30% and the other 17% were divided between Biden and Richardson. The last 2 groups couldn't make a deal to create a viable group and most went to Obama. In the end, out of 6 delegates, Obama got 3 (50%), Edwards 2 (33%) and Clinton 1 (17%). She was clearly ripped of votes in this Des Moines precint. Also, Edwards and Obama supporters were in comparable numbers in the beginning, but the deal from Biden/Richardson was for Obama not Edwards. I don't say Clinton was expected to win in Iowa (although I wish she did), but objectively, Edwards could win.

the whole process is prehistoric. You should see them counting and losing track.
The Democrats are crazy if they nominate un-electable Obama.
Don't worry libocrats, I think you'll still get your girl as the nominee.  I certainly hope so.  Of the top three, she's the only one the Repubs stand a chance at beating in '08.  Go Hillary!  Go McCain!!!
What I saw on MSNBC this morning was Hillary and Mitt looking absolutely shell shocked that they did not win,despite what Hillary said. Mitt seemed just amazed that he had to admit to winning "silver medal" in Iowa but would "get the gold in NH".
I think the candidate pool for both parties is poor; on the Republican side you have a bunch of rich old white mem with old messages and on the Democratic side you have Hillary and Barack and then pretty much rich old men with old messages. Early on I did like Richardson because of his foreign policy experience, but then all the mud slinging and no real plans for the future. I dont think anyone knows what it is to have experience to be President unless you are running for a second term!!! even Hillary!
Hey New Hampshire voters guess what the Clintons are going to say about you after an Obama win? The same unflattering remarks they are saying about Iowa voters right now.  

The Clintons will minimize your vote and say a small state really does not matter.  What mattes is Feb 5th.  Do America a favor and send Hillary and Bill a message that today is a new day and people want real change and phony slogans and gutter politics.

Hey Billary...blaming the process and not the candidate is a losing position.

Another way of lowering expectation from Hillary's campaign...who in their right mind will believe Hillary Clinton? I am a young voters and i am going to be casting my vote against Hillary Clinton in the NH primary.

The last time i checked, Mark Penn insulted the young voters during the JJ dinner in IA. I guess the only thing that change is .... Hillary's loss.  I am pretty sure the young voters are not buying what Hillary is selling.

As a young voter my self, i'll be voting my hope and aspiration rather than voting for status quo.
People are never satisfied. Hillary in the lead; Hillary behind; Hillary standing up; Hillary keeping quiet.

It seems that no matter what she does Chris Matthews and other talking heads cannot stand her. His argument that 66% of people last night were voting against her is possibly one of the dumbest things he has said; Yes at that point 66% of people were not voting for her, however, 66% of the people were also not voting for the other two as well.

And they say the media is liberal...

Most of the people that hate her so passionately have no real basis for their hatred. If you have a logical and rational reason then good. But, if all you can spout is hate and biased comments about her voice, etc. then keep your stupidity to yourself -- we don't need any more of it in the world.
She's insulting the young voters by thinking 5 days of courting will make a difference.  We aren't stupid, we've been paying attention to the race and courting us for 5 days before the primary is not going to make a difference to the NH outcome.  So what?  We didn't matter until we showed up for Obama, now we're worth a little lipservice?
Oh, she forgot a special interest... the youth vote.  So now she will pander to young people and try to sway them by targeting "presents" to hand them when elected.  The problem is that she fails to realize, they are not concerned about creating opportunities for young people.  They are concerned about the overall future of our country.  She just does not get that this election is not about the typical handing out of presents to special interests.
Doesn't any body feel a little bit dirty yet piling up on Clinton? She lost and she gave a very gracious defeat speech last night. I am amazed at how much the media and public have put Clinton in a box that she can't say ANYTHING without being attacked. Clinton lost and she is analyzing her campaign from ALL SIDES. Had Clinton got the pass by the press and media that Obama got she would have won. Never in my life have I seen the media circle their wagons around one candidate while pointing their slings and arrows at the other guy (or gal in this case).
I keep looking for new polling numbers in N.H.  All the polls I see were taken BEFORE last night's caucus.  If anyone could send any kind of link with any new polling on N.H. it would be great.

On Hillary....I had several of her supporters call me today to make phone calls.  I really feel that she blew it -- not with the young people, but with negative campaigning and trying to keep the same old rhetoric...US against THEM.
im so sorry that the folks out there canot see the real winner there last-night she;s had 35 yrs under her belt. open your eyes people.
HILLARY!!  HILLARY!!  She's a class act.  Loved her concession speech.  I will still support her in CA.  However, based on the resounding results last night, I truly don't think she should be the nominee.  Republicans and Indies would NEVER vote for her (as well as some Dems.)
Were we expecting anyone else to take responsibility? She is the candidate after all.
take your time i have the time to wait for your ansure
Everyday it becomes more apparent that Hillary is a whiney brat who can't believe she isn't getting her way.  She'd better get her act together before she gets to my state or my vote will go the other way.  And she has a lot of ground to make up in my opinion...
She came in third Pat (barely). Edwards edged her out by about .5% in the state delegate count.  However she wants to spend this, she put the time, effort, money and organization into Iowa and lost.  And since no one is reporting this fact, I'll bring it up: she just lost her first contested election.
Barack Hussein Obama: the audacity of inexperience. Come on folks, this is a Presidential election. This guy has no record! Please, let's vote for a President to do a JOB, and not a prom king to give nice speeches that make us feel good.
Less than 24 hours has passed before Hillary starts blasting the Iowa Caucus as disenfranchising working people etc.At least this time she did not blame the "vast right-wing conspiracy". The Clinton think they are entitled to the Presidency. It's always someone else's fault.
It shows that Clinton after all is not all that popular, despite the press wants us to believe. "She is ready to lead" I am not convinced.
What do people mean when they say "Hillary just doesn't get it"

You don't think she should still be campaigning?  You would have her drop out after losing one caucus?

I'm just confused as to what you're objecting to...
She is complaining about Iowa disenfranchising voters now. And if she were to lose New Hampshire, will she complain about that primary allowing too many voters in?
71% of the Democratic Caucus in Iowa went for someone else. The Democrats better think about that when discussing the General Election and who can win.

Hillary cannot win the South, even though she hails from a southern state she is considered a liberal from the North.

No the best chance for the Democrats are Obama or Edwards.

Grow up. Why isnt it possible to have a mature and down to earth discussion without Obama
fans going pcb fantatics in their way of writing ?
Newsweek just reportet that the nation's unemployment rate rose to its highest level since November 2005, and you folks are just interested in word bashing..
She doesn't appeal to young people.  For that matter she doesn't appeal to the majority of Americans.  We are tired to what she insists on representing.  She can take  her p.r. firm ceo's Wolfson and Penn with her.  Lip stick on a pig can only look so beautiful.
DID YOU SEE CIGAR BILL AT HER SPEECH, I THINK BY THE LOOK ON HIS FACE HE REALIZED HIS SLEAZY LIFE IS KILLING HER   AL GORE GOT AS CLOSE AS YOU COULD GET AND HE DIDNT WANT A CLINTON AROUND
PAT FROM NEW YORK----DO YOU NOT HAVE ANY MORALS---CAN YOU READ---HAVE YOU READ CLINTONS SCANDALS.COM  AND PARDONS.COM AND NO HILLARY.COM   GO READ AND IF YOU STILL SUPPORT A CLINTON OF ANY KIND, GO SEE A SHRINK
Stop bashing Hillary! Hillary Clinton is one of the smartest, most dedicated public servants in this country and has dedicated her entire career life to public service. The truth is that we would be fortunate - as a nation - to have ANY of the Democratic contenders in the Oval office.

Please stay open-minded and let the REST of US VOTE on 2/5 before everyone lets a relative few caucus goers in Iowa decide the entire election for the rest of us.
Come on people!  Does some moronic political process in remote Iowa REALLY represent the masses of our country.  I don't think the caucuses historically have had much significance of predicting the party's nominations...and likely will not in 2008!


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