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Initial take away: everyone gangs up on Romney

Posted: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:52 PM by Chuck Todd


Wow, do these candidates have it in for Romney; the whole field seems to be jumping on the bandwagon of trying to end Romney's campaign as quickly as possible. What message to New Hampshire voters get when every single candidate on stage, from McCain to Huckabee to Thompson to Giuliani and Paul have beefs with Romney. How does Romney win this nomination when he's got opponents so vehemently against him?  As I said before, McCain and Romney are in a single elimination tournament in New Hampshire; loser goes home and the field knows that they probably can't win a 1-on-1 with Romney because of his resources but Romney will be basically toast on Wednesday if he loses to McCain, particularly if he loses by a lot. He'd be the first Massachusetts favorite son to lose the New Hampshire presidential, I believe, ever.

Romney tried to be the conciliatory candidate on that stage but he seemed to be taken aback by the attacks from, well, everyone. Tomorrow is it for him; maybe; will he come loaded for bear on his opponents or will he once again decide to stay above the fray. If I were in his shoes, I guess I'd choose above the fray because apparently if he attacks, there will be some other candidate willing to push back at him. It may not be a fair fight but who said politics was fair.

Both Huckabee and Thompson took cheap shots at Romney. Maybe Ed Rollins
is right, nobody likes Romney; at least nobody on that stage.  And then  Romney struggled a bit defending his health care plan and has that  awkward soundbite of "I like mandates." Ronald Reagan would be rolling in his grave over that one.

Obviously, what's bad for Romney is good for McCain; He was fine but showed his tempermental side with some of those digs at McCain. Still, McCain had to be lovin' it that he had Thompson and Huckabee getting his back against Romney.

Speaking of Huckabee, it wasn't as dominating of a performance for him as in previous debates. He seemed awfully aggressive early on with Romney as if he just couldn't wait to help McCain defeat him.  Huckabee, btw, got himself in a flip-flop on the troop surge. He said he supported it but his foes found video of him showing Huckabee admit, "I'm not sure that I support the troop surge..."

Giuliani seemed fine but repetitive; He just seemed like he wasn't part of the conversation or at least didn't offer up anything new, compared to previous debates. Why again, though, did Giuliani skip New Hampshire; this should have been his breakout state. We'll see, the field's getting muddled for him and that could help later this month.

Then there's Thompson; he seemed comfortable in that chair and he loved going after Romney; The guy's a great commentator and being seated allowed to play that role well. You think he's comfortable knowing that he's got a mission now? Stopping Romney for McCain?

As for Paul, the candidates used him as a punching bag early on which seemed like old news. Paul then disappeared later in the debate.

Closing note: Was Obama also one of the winners?  Huckabee made as good of a case for Obama as if he were a future surrogate.

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Romney looked like the prep who showed up at the dude ranch but got stuck in the ranch house with the real cowboys.  They sort of beat up on him and he did not look real comfortable.  How stupid was his campaign manager to change his theme to "change" when he was bound to evoked sarcasm from the others since he is percieved as changing positions so much?  The other problem is that Mitt's campaign told him going negative works.  That was yesterday's America.  Going negative makes everyone else hate you.
It was pretty obvious there was only one man on the stage who is smart enough to understand all of the issues facing our country.  He is the lone leader by virtue of his resume and leaderhip skills.  No wonder everyone else is attacking him. I was embarrassed by John McCain's mean, childish behavior.  The people of New Hampshire are smart enough to read the writing on the wall! Obama vs Romney 2008!!!
For the past weeks all we heard from Huckabee and McCain is how they don't campaign negative.  Then tonight they go on the offensive with childish cheap shots against Romney?  In my opinion McCain and Huckabee fear what Romney can do in a head to head debate.  I think the lack of courtesy and civility will come back to haunt both McCain and Huckabee
The good news is Romney is in for the long haul.  He doesn't even need to win New Hampshire, especially now that he dominated Wyoming and has a win under his belt.

They aren't after Romney because they smell blood, but because they smell President.

My mother called late in the debate and said Romney was quiet for a few minutes, and she thought maybe Ann had motioned for him to slow down.  The man has so much to say.

Romney has my vote, not just for the debate but for the nomination.  McCain?  Too old school, and too old for that matter.  Huck?  lol  Let's start with funding, but let's stop before I get personal.  Giuliani?  Not aggressive enough in seeking the nomination for someone who supposedly has nerves of steel.  Fred is pretty passive and certainly does not have the Reagan mantle he was supposed to have.  Ron Paul?  With all due respect for people who give the rest of us none, the man is a libertarian, not a Republican.  He seems strangely out of place, not so much in an election as in this party.

Mitt is a solutions candidate with a track record and a win already, a second place finish in the most contested race, and a high likelihood of a first or second place finish in New Hampshire, either of which will do just fine.

I admire the man that much more under fire.
Romney has changed his position on abortion and gay marraige, and he's equivocated on taxes.  Media outlets that are unaffiliated with any campaigns have reported on his casual relationship with the truth by covering his NRA "endorsement" amongst other things.  

I'm tired of politicians on either side who are born with a silver spoon in their mouths and haven't personally experienced what is wrong with our domestic policies today.  I'll support any GOP canididate OTHER than Romney.  If he gets the nomination, I won't be voting for him.
If anyone doubts that dumbing down America has worked just read the story book above from "Lucien".  Just kidding!  Don't read it. It's not worth the time.  It makes about as much sense as Obama or Huckabee in front of a crowd of cocain loaded star struck girls (or most of the star struck voting Republic perhaps).  If Romney loses, it is proof that America has already lost.  In fact, for the first time in a century Britian has pulled ahead of the US in standard of living.  I guess we all need to work on an Arkansas meat farm along with our new neighbors from Mexico.  That is our fate. That and Spanish.  Tu Habla?
TrueHawk, St. Croix, US Virgin Islands - Romney going negative? Did you actually see the debate tonight? If you're talking about his contrast ads, well... sometimes the truth hurts.
IN THE DEPTH OF THE UNKNOWN, THERE ARE NECESSARY CONQUESTS: I think you are on the wrong blog.

Mitt for President!! Great job at the debate. Looks like the other candidates make personal attacks and don't touch the issues.
Chuck, NC - so you're upset that he's now Pro Life? I'm glad we've converted him. You going to look down your nose for anyone else that converts too?

And you second comment was just drenched with a victim mentality and class warfare rhetoric. He made his money because he worked hard. End of story. That's the great thing about this country, it's a land of opportunity. The sooner you learn that, the better off you'll be.
Romney has to spend millions of dollars, a few pennies of which comes out of us middle class Americans - what there is left of us, because the whole media is against him because he is not a liberal lap dog.  What he should do is say he is from the Senator McCain-Obama-Clinton camp when he submits his ads so we can get a discount (or free air time from the reporters at the least)!
You need to be careful, Romney is telling the absolute truth, but the other candidates are slick-talkers who distort the truth and can quickly turn good into bad and right into wrong if you are not 100% alert.

I challenge you to go to the mittromney.com website, click on "ISSUES," and listen to Romney's short video clips on each of the issues.  See if you are not thoroughly convinced that Romney has the leadership, understanding, and skills necessary to do a truly outstanding job.

This time, let's elect a president that actually has skills for the job, unmatched integrity, and real solutions!  The truth is, Mitt Romney is a once-in-a-lifetime presidential candidate!
Stewart, So very true.. Remember the last "trick" that Huckabee did about getting that hit ad out to the media for FREE!! What a slimy person to pull a trick like that and then act innocent.
McCain was rude. He's wrong on tax cuts and immigration. He'll make a good Secretary of Defense.
Thompson was a statesman mostly. His jabs at the idiot Ron Paul were dignified. He'll make a good Sec. of State.
Huckabee is a Huckster who'll trash another man's faith to get ahead. Another sheister from Arkansas.
Guiliani is a good guy and will make a great Attorney General.
Romney took the shots. He's the feared candidate so he needed to get the shots. He'll be a good president with Condi Rice as VP.
Yeah.  If you're going to attack someone, let it be on policy or electability using actual data.  And if you're going to point out a difference in your opponent's positions, your facts should be straight.  

Huckster's talk about how he supported the surge before Mitt did.  Not true.  

McCain's shots at Romney had me reminded of when I was in 8th grade.  

John McCain - will you pledge not to accept matching funds?  How's that fundraising going?

How about your fundraising Huckster?  You getting a bounce in fundraising from the Iowa caucus where all your votes came from people with a household income of 30K or less?  No fundraising bounce?  Wow.  

Did ABC borrow tonight's set from the old "Newlywed Game"?
Calm down. It's gonna be all right. Just use your heads and 'hearts' and when the new President is put in place, pray and support him. He'll need it, with the snide, unkindness generated by some of the citizens and media of this once greater nation. Go Mr. Romney!
Romney demonstrated the ability to act Presidential under intense personal attacks.  It was evident that those attacking him were trying to avoid facing the facts and defending their positions.  On Health care it is obvious that Romney is the only candidate,Republican Or Democrat that has actually passed a Health Care bill in cooperation with a legislature of an opposing party.
I think that it is great that Romney was so SUCCESSFUL he can fund his campaign and not take money from people who he will OWE a favor to later...
And then as he did in Massachusetts work for us for FREE -aren't we fortunate!
There were only two presidental candidates on display tonight.  Mitt and rudy.    Mitt is a clear winner. If the good people fail to see this it will be a testament to our failed education system
I lost all respect for John McCain.  He appeared childish and petty.  He kept rocking to-and-fro like some drunken sailor.  His "change" comment fell flat and caused him to look pathetic.  Huckabee and Thompson were clearly playing the part of his hinchmen tonight.  

I had an epiphany:  The republicans are ganging up because they know they can't beat Romney one on one and all the dems want huckabee because they see red meat.  Dick Morris said that Romney won the debate and was the strongest boxer in the ring.  He also said that John McCain looked old and Thomposon looked barely alive.  Huckabees canned jokes seemed rehearsed and were boring.
Mitt won my votight.  McCain lost the little bit of respect I had left for him.  His time has past and he's bitter about it.  Romney showed he could stay cool under pressure from every direction and seemed to be smarter than all the other candidates put together.
The good news is Romney is in for the long haul.  He doesn't even need to win New Hampshire, especially now that he dominated Wyoming and has a win under his belt.

They aren't after Romney because they smell blood, but because they smell President.

My mother called late in the debate and said Romney was quiet for a few minutes, and she thought maybe Ann had motioned for him to slow down.  The man has so much to say.

Romney has my vote, not just for the debate but for the nomination.  McCain?  Too old school, and too old for that matter.  Huck?  lol  Let's start with funding, but let's stop before I get personal.  Giuliani?  Not aggressive enough in seeking the nomination for someone who supposedly has nerves of steel.  Fred is pretty passive and certainly does not have the Reagan mantle he was supposed to have.  Ron Paul?  With all due respect for people who give the rest of us none, the man is a libertarian, not a Republican.  He seems strangely out of place, not so much in an election as in this party.

Mitt is a solutions candidate with a track record and a win already, a second place finish in the most contested race, and a high likelihood of a first or second place finish in New Hampshire, either of which will do just fine.

I admire the man that much more under fire.
Romney is a man of character and incredible poise under pressure )no surprise given his decades as a top business executive).  Look back at any of his videos over the past year and you will see this -- he has never taken the bait the media and other candidates give him to disparage other people's names.   I've been impressed with this repeatedly over the year.  Tonight, he called it like it is on the issues and didn't pull any punches there (a better show of "straight talk" than McCain!) but declined to slander back at his childish competitors.  Nothing is going to fix the gridlock in Washington like a President who refuses to engage in character assassination and belittling political jockeying.  Romney's got my vote!  He is what this nation desperately needs -- a grown up in the corner office.  
Mitt won my vote tonight.  McCain lost the little bit of respect I had left for him.  His time has past and he's bitter about it.  Romney showed he could stay cool under pressure from every direction and seemed to be smarter than all the other candidates put together.
It seems that McCain and Huckabee formed some kind of alliance.  I am not sure how I feel about that.  Ever since Huckabee made that negative ad, then decided not to show it (but showed it to the press) I will not vote for him.  I think that McCain is a honorable man and has good ideas.  Why does he need Huckabee?
I'll grant you Mitt is pretty smart.  But some of the people supporting him and some in his campaign are plain ole dumb.  I mean to have Mitt assert at this juncture in nominating process that he is now an agent of change is so stupid it's mind boggling.  Especially in light of his flip-flop label.  I think he needs to fire all of his staff and start over like McCain did.  And for his "conservative" supporters insisting that he is not a liberal lap dog.  All I've gotta say is Mitt governed Massachusetts, the Bluest of the Blue States.  Case closed.
Everybody ganged up on Romney, but I think Romney handled all the attacks.  I think the shots at him were cheap.  The pundits may say that Romney didn't do well be because everybody attacked him, but I don't think the viewers/voters will see that way.  He has my vote.
Stephanie,South Carolina - and it means he won't be the lapdog to corporate or other special interests. That whole mess is KILLING our political system. And there are people who complain he's somehow too rich! Is this America or Communist Russia?
GO ROMNEY!!!!!  I will never forgive Hick-is-me and McCain for the way they are treating Romney.  How dare they accuse of being negative while they kick him over and over with insults like bullies in grade school
eventually, especially under adversity, a person's true colors begin to show... for romney, that is a person that is clearly the most capable candidate to lead our nation... when given the chance to speak (despite attacks and a misleading media), he proves he has a platform to build upon... the other candidates (especially mccain and huckabee) revealed themselves to those paying attention as clearly a step below this true leader
Romney vs. Obama in '08.  Now all those southern evangelical "Christians"  are going to have to decide who they hate more.  Mormons or African-Americans.
I get that the dominant media elite have anointed Huckabee as the GOP nominee.  So much for objectivity.
Mitt clearly won the debate.  He stayed above the attacks and discussed the issues with intelligence and realism like no other candidate.  

I'm voting for Mitt!
All you guys yelling about poor Romney. It's rediculous to say he is a victim of personel attacks ! He jumped Huckabee when he was behind him in Iowa and now McCain since he is behind him in New Hampshire. Correcting/responding to Romney's attacks are just that-responses not childish chatter.
You Romney supporters seem to forget he is a very rich amn in his own right. The question I have for you is why does a multi millioner run for president when it's a cut in pay ? Hummm he has an angle I bet  
Wow! My respect just went way up for Mitt, to have to put up with such shameful personal attacks during a national televised debate and keep such a decent humble attitude says a lot about his character.  

McCain and Huckabee sure showed their character.  To me they are simply jealous of Mitt.  Mitt has such an incredible command of the issues and respect for the law.  He is the the exact kind of person we want for our President! He appears to put up well under pressure.

Hopefully, enough voters in N.H. and around the country will trully grasp what is really happening here.

ABC and the main (old) media are doing the usual best to destort the election.  To say Mitt must win N.H. or he is dead is utter nonsense.  Mitt is by far the best candidate.  Thank God for the new media!  And any of the Repub's are far better than the Dems.
Mitt Romney has run attack ad after attack ad against Huck and McCain. His staff and paid "endorsers" feed the press nasty little tidbits. But in public he is so genteel and, of course, would never get his hands dirty. Its called being a weasel. Its why the other campaigns don't like him. Reminds me of the Emperor in Gladiator before the final battle, welcoming the gladiator in with a hug, and while hugging sticks a knife in his back. Mitt's that kind of guy. Still, McCain probably went overboard, and he will pay.
Love to see Romney's free market leanings, and refusal to jump onto the populism bandwagon.  Unfortunately, the people responding here don't seem to reflect the primary voters in Iowa or NH who would vote for Republicans who believe that big government can solve all problems - lets leave that position to the Dem's.
Fred Thompson, think about it. All the Right positions and none of the flippy floppy fakery of Romney. Fred could do it, if we would just get behind him. He is the most Reagan esque of the lot, and the least flawed all ways round. Why aren't we getting this? I just put my $50 in the big red truck.
Gosh it looks like Romney's paid staff are blogging on this site. I guess that's what 20 million buys.  I can't believe I watched the same debate.  The Plastic Gumby man Romney was his usual slippery, slimy, self.  Any of them would be better than the demos for sure.  I would have like to see Thompson break out as an alternative to Romney or McCain but he just waited too long to get in the race.  Listening to Edwards say that "not all corporations are bad" should frighten us enough to unite behind somebody but Romney is not the guy.  
People let us understand one thing.  Our presidential canidate cannot be ignorant to a changing world.  Romney has always aligned his position to the most thought-out, research based conclusions that can move this country in the right direction.  He has the brains, the inspiration, the competence, and above all THE RECORD.  You are all invited to review each of the candidates records and background desipte what the polls and media state.  Then again, this message might be worthless because the voters that really care about this country already know this facts and are supporting Mitt.  MITT for PRESIDENT!!!!
Mitt is a feminine version of Hillary, very unlikeable.  Has one finger to the wind while another finger adjusts his mirror.

I like Huck, but feel he is soft and ill informed on foreign affairs and homeland security.  Wife would have watched the debates, but guess what ... she's busy tying up our end of month, end of quarter, and end of year business accounting.  She'll start our personal accounting soon.  Eliminate the I.R.S. and you'll be my hero.  

Rudy (9/11) has an answer (9/11) to everything (9/11) relating to (9/11) 9/11.  Did I mention 9/11? 9/11!!
Wow!  Was I ever impressed with Mitt Romney tonight! He stuck to the issues at hand and maintained incredible composure despite rude comments thrown his direction.  He impressed me with being very knowledgeable about numerous issues at a detailed level.  For the first time in a long time I have a candidate who I can seriously believe in and who I REALLY hope will win.  I think he will be good for America, if America is free-thinking (i.e. not brainwashed by political correctness and the liberal media) enough to discern this.  Go Mitt '08!!!
It's sad that the mainstream media still discounts Mitt Romney from being the true contender he is: they report that he suffered in today's debate (most of us think otherwise), that he should of won in Iowa (it's hard when the majority of voters were hard-core Evangelicals), that he "attacks" the other candidates (Mitt does not attack, he states facts), that his authenticity should be question (I, myself, am not Mormon, but I do know that many Mormons are very well-grounded that they almost seem too perfect and plastic-y), that he HAS to win in New Hampshire (it's funny that they hardly report about his win in Wyoming, and they think that Mitt will fall out of this race)....I'm sick of the mainstream media's twisted approach to common sense: we each need to think for ourselves, and when we do, we will clearly see that Mitt is the right candidate to lead us into the future.
P.S.  The Commander in Chief needs to be the smartest, most talented problem solver.  Mitt Romney is the expert problem solver. After all, it was he who managed and turned arouned organizations by making the RIGHT DECISIONS. Our country is the most important organization in our lives...let's rally behind the best!
Romney definitely showed more class tonight than Huck or McCain.  They should stop the whining.  They made him (Romney) look presidential tonight while making themselves look tacky.
I'm also from NH.

Mitt has spent most of his money throwing dirt on his opponents.  Tonight was payback.  Romney has not gotten ANY endorsements from any New England newspapers.  Union Leader torches him every other day in its editorials.  Another NH paper called him a "phony".  The conservative Boston paper (Murdoch owned) calls him "slick Mitt".  Mitt Romney dissed Reagan when he debated Ted Kennedy.  For any of the big GOP fights over the past 20 years there is only one constant.... Mitt Romney wasn't in it.

Mitt Romney a "solid" conservative since 2007 (but I forget the month).  
I watched all of the debates, tonight's was better than most. Folks, McCain is decidedly not presidential. He came across as a bitter, snide, been at it too long, missed the boat, ready for retirement crab. I know Ron Paul has inspired many young people but really now, outside of some reasonable observations about constitutional principles, he's sucking up airtime.Hey I think two men getting married is pretty strange but Huckabee can't be the answer for that. It was very telling that everyone except maybe Giuliani attacked Romney. Now why did they do that? Do they find him threatening because he's made more money than they have or ever will. Maybe they hate the fact that he went to Harvard and graduated with two degrees, one in Business and one in Law and was in the top 10% of his class. Maybe they hate the Olympics and despise the fact that he ran a good show in 2002. Maybe they're afraid that if he gets elected he just might have the congressional benefit package analyzed and cut out the baloney. Maybe he's too professional,too organized, his sons are too handsome, he's too healthy looking but then again seasoned politicians could never suffer from plain old fashioned jealousy could they? Maybe John McCain is pissed that National Review didn't endorse him.  
The following is in support of Willard Mitt Romney:

Did you guys see Obama's energy the other day shortly after the Iowa caucus?  Mccain, Huckabee and Giuliani simply cannot match that energy in the general election.  The GOP has one candidate that is tireless and determined to win.  That is Mitt Romney.  In addition, have you see how much President George W. Bush has aged since he took the office?  He went from a strapping young lad to an old man in less than eight years.  How can Mccain afford to age anymore without dying?  
The following is in support of Willard Mitt Romney:

Did you guys see Obama's energy the other day shortly after the Iowa caucus?  Mccain, Huckabee and Giuliani simply cannot match that energy in the general election.  The GOP has one candidate that is tireless and determined to win.  That is Mitt Romney.  In addition, have you see how much President George W. Bush has aged since he took the office?  He went from a strapping young lad to an old man in less than eight years.  How can Mccain afford to age anymore without dying?  
How patehtic McCain and Suckabee looked going after Romney.  They can't persuade with their own positions and proposals, so they gang-up on Romney.  They are obviously painfully aware that in a head-to-head battle, they would both be toast.
My analysis of debate deduced Romney having won the debate on points, but certainly it was no lnockout. Thompson and Paul accorded themselves reasonably well, excepting Thompson's barbs directed towards Romney. As for these incessant attacks, the remaining candidates looked sophmoric and their responses to questions were ambiguous at best. Romney and Paul made the greatest attempts to clarify positions with Thompson providing acute, but overly general, responses. Again, Romney wins on points earned by his arguments and his ability to withstand excessively childish behavior exhibited by his opponents, which was entirely directed towards him in an unnecessarily personal nature.


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