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Mitt Romney's  Flip Flop Record

ABORTION

From the Left:

Romney ran against Senator Edward M. Kennedy in 1994. During a debate, Romney declared: "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a US Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it."
- Boston Globe, March 2, 2006

"I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose."
-2002 Questionnaire for the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL)
Boston Globe, July 3, 2005

From the Right:

"I am pro-life. I believe that abortion is the wrong choice except in cases of incest, rape, and to save the life of the mother. I wish the people of America agreed, and that the laws of our nation could reflect that view. But while the nation remains so divided over abortion, I believe that the states, through the democratic process, should determine their own abortion laws and not have them dictated by judicial mandate."
- Boston Globe, Op-Ed, July 26, 2005

More from the Right:

"Every decision I have made as Governor in a very liberal state has been on the side of favoring life." – Governor Romney

- Robert Behre, "Romney Gets S.C. Support," Charleston Post-Courier, January 30, 2007

STEM CELL RESEARCH

From the Left:

"Romney has decided to support experimentation on surplus frozen embryos from in-vitro fertilization procedures."
- National Review Online, February 11, 2005

"At a campaign appearance at Brandeis University in June 2002, Romney strongly endorsed stem cell research."
- Boston Globe, December 17, 2006  Read the article

From the Center:

"Governor Mitt Romney set off a storm of criticism yesterday after he declared in a published interview that he favored banning a specific type of stem cell research. Scientists and the leader of the state Senate accused him of trying to block a promising avenue of research, even as antiabortion groups assailed him for declaring that he did not object to stem cell research involving embryos from fertility clinics."
- Boston Globe, February 11, 2005  Read the article

From the Right:

"I studied the issue for many months, and entered into conversation with experts from across the nation who were looking for consensus solutions, like Stanford's Dr. William Hurlbut.  In the end, I became persuaded that the stem-cell debate was grounded in a false premise, and that the way through it was around it: by the use of scientific techniques that could produce the equivalent of embryonic stem cells but without cloning, creating, harming, or destroying developing human lives."
- Governor Mitt Romney, Op-Ed, "A Stem-Cell Solution," National Review Online, June 15, 2007

EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION

From the Left:

"When he ran for governor in 2002, Romney said he supported expanding access to the emergency contraception pill, a high dose of hormones that women can take to prevent pregnancy up to five days after sex . . . On a questionnaire Planned Parenthood gave to the gubernatorial candidates in 2002, Romney answered 'yes' to the question, 'Do you support efforts to increase access to emergency contraception?' "
- Boston Globe, July 7, 2005

From the Right:

"Yesterday I vetoed a bill that the Legislature forwarded to my desk. Though described by its sponsors as a measure relating to contraception, there is more to it than that. The bill does not involve only the prevention of conception: The drug it authorizes would also terminate life after conception."
- Governor Mitt Romney, Op-Ed, "Why I Vetoed The Contraception Bill," Boston Globe, July 26, 2005  Read the article

GAY RIGHTS

From the Left:

"All citizens deserve equal rights, regardless of their sexual orientation. While he does not support gay marriage, Mitt Romney believes domestic partnership status should be recognized in a way that includes the potential for health benefits and rights of survivorship."
- Romney's 2002 campaign website

"Mitt and Kerry Wish You a Great Pride Weekend! All citizens deserve equal rights, regardless of their sexual preference"
- A flier handed out at "Gay Pride" by the Romney/Healey Campaign  See the flier here

"We have discussed a number of important issues such as the Federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), which I have agreed to co-sponsor, and if possible broaden to include housing and credit, and a bill to create a federal panel to find ways to reduce gay and lesbian youth suicide, which I also support. One issue I want to clarify concerns [grammar in context] President Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell, don't pursue" military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation's military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share…"
- Governor Romney letter to Log Cabin Republicans, October 6, 1994  Read the letter here

From the Right:

Lopez: "And what about the 1994 letter to the Log Cabin Republicans where you indicated you would support the Federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) and seemed open to changing the "don't ask, don't tell" policy in the military? Are those your positions today?

Gov. Romney: "No. I don't see the need for new or special legislation. My experience over the past several years as governor has convinced me that ENDA would be an overly broad law that would open a litigation floodgate and unfairly penalize employers at the hands of activist judges...As for military policy and the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy, I trust the counsel of those in uniform who have set these policies over a dozen years ago. I agree with President Bush's decision to maintain this policy and I would do the same."
- Interview with National Review, December 14, 2006  Read the interview

MARRIAGE AMENDMENT

From the Left:

In 2002, before the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court declared same-sex marriage protected by the Constitution, Romney denounced as "too extreme" the effort by pro-family groups to enact a preemptive state Marriage Protection Amendment prohibiting homosexual marriage, civil unions and same-sex public employee benefits.
- Boston Phoenix, May 14-20, 2004

From the Right:

MSNBC's Joe Scarborough: "Do you support a national constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage?"

Governor Romney: "Boy, I sure do. You know, that's a topic that's really, I think, very important to the country because marriage is not just about adults. Marriage is about the development and nurturing of kids, and in my view, the development of a child is enhanced by having a mom and dad. And so, I think it's very important that we have a national standard because marriage is a status. You get married in one place and then you move to another, you're still married at least in the eyes of the community and the children and the benefits may not follow you, but ultimately we're going to have one standard of marriage in this country and that standard ought to be one man and one woman."
- MSNBC's "Morning Joe" September 17, 2007

GUN RIGHTS

From the Left:

"He [Romney] is a supporter of the federal assault weapons ban."
- Romney 2002 campaign website

More from the Left:

In his 1994 US Senate run, Romney backed two gun-control measures strongly opposed by the National Rifle Association and other gun-rights groups: the Brady Bill, which imposed a five-day waiting period on gun sales, and a ban on certain assault weapons.

"That's not going to make me the hero of the NRA," Romney told the Boston Herald in 1994.

At another campaign stop that year, he told reporters: "I don't line up with the NRA."
- Boston Globe, January 14, 2007  Read the article

From the Right:

"Americans should have the right to own and possess firearms as guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution," said Governor Romney. "I'm proud to be among the many decent, law-abiding men and women who safely use firearms."
- Governor Romney, News Release, January 12, 2007

WAITING PERIODS FOR GUNS

From the Left:

Regarding the Brady Bill which required waiting periods to buy a handgun, Romney stated, "I don't think [the waiting period] will have a massive effect on crime but I think it will have a positive effect."
- Boston Herald, August 1, 1994

From the Right:

"Romney says he still backs the ban on assault weapons, but he won't say whether he stands by the Brady Bill.  And after the gun show tour, his campaign declined to say whether he would still describe himself as a supporter of tough gun laws."
- Boston Globe, January 14, 2007  Read the article

MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE

From the Left:

"The minimum wage is important to our economy and Mitt Romney supports minimum wage increase, at least in line with inflation."
- Romney 2002 campaign website

From the Right:

Governor Mitt Romney yesterday rejected the Legislature's plan to raise the state minimum wage to $8 an hour over two years, angering Democratic lawmakers and advocates who accused him of abandoning a 2002 campaign pledge to significantly boost the pay of low-wage workers.
- Boston Globe, July 22, 2006  Read the article

EDUCATION

During his 1994 campaign for Senate he continually called for the abolishment of the Department of Education.
- Club for Growth's White Paper on Mitt Romney

Governor Romney now supports the No Child Left Behind Act.
- Club for Growth's White Paper on Mitt Romney

IMMIGRATION

From the Left:

In a November 2005 interview with the Boston Globe, Romney described immigration proposals by McCain and others as "quite different" from amnesty, because they required illegal immigrants to register with the government, work for years, pay taxes, not take public benefits, and pay a fine before applying for citizenship.

"That's very different than amnesty, where you literally say, 'OK, everybody here gets to stay,' " Romney said in the interview. "It's saying you could work your way into becoming a legal resident of the country by working here without taking benefits and then applying and then paying a fine."

Romney did not specifically endorse McCain's bill, saying he had not yet formulated a full position on immigration. But he did speak approvingly of efforts by McCain and Bush to solve the nation's immigration crisis, calling them "reasonable proposals."

Romney also said in the interview that it was not "practical or economic for the country" to deport the estimated 12 million immigrants living in the US illegally. "These people contribute in many cases to our economy and to our society," he said. "In some cases, they do not. But that's a whole group we're going to have to determine how to deal with."
- Boston Globe, March 16, 2007  Read the article

From the Right:

In his appeals to conservative voters, Romney has made the Arizona senator's work on immigration one of his favorite targets. When McCain and other senators unveiled the latest reform bill two weeks ago, Romney called it the "wrong approach" and immediately launched a television ad slamming "amnesty" for illegal immigrants.
- Boston Globe, June 1, 2007  Read the article

TAXES

From the Left:

"Governor Romney…imposed a slew of fee hikes and tax 'loophole' closures….The largest of these was $259 million worth of fee hikes in FY 2004, the bulk of which came from higher Registry of Deeds fees.  Smaller fee hikes, including higher charges for boaters and golfers, we imposed in FY 2003 and FY 2005.  Romney also sought $128 million worth of so-called tax loophole closures for FY 2004; $70 million for FY 2005; and $170 million for FY 2006, which were later reduced to $85 million due to backlash from business leaders."
- Club for Growth's White Paper on Mitt Romney

"Romney continues to oppose the flat tax with harsh language, calling the tax 'unfair.'"
- Club for Growth's White Paper on Mitt Romney

Romney didn't support President Bush's tax cuts in 2003.  That earned him praise from liberal Congressman Barney Frank (D-MA)  
- Boston Globe, April 11, 2003.

From the Right:

"I said no to a tax hike; raising taxes hurts working people and scares away jobs. I also said no to more borrowing; borrowing just shifts our problems to the backs of our kids...Instead, I went after waste, inefficiency, duplication, and patronage."
- Governor Romney, Boston Globe, October 24, 2005

NO NEW TAXES PLEDGE

From the Left:

In 2002, Romney broke with his predecessor, Jane Swift, and Republican governors before her by declining to sign a written vow not to raise taxes once in office.

- Boston Globe, January 5, 2007  Read the article

From the Right:

Almost five years after he refused to sign a "no new taxes" pledge during his campaign for governor, Mitt Romney announced yesterday that he had done just that, as his campaign for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination began in earnest.
- Boston Globe, January 5, 2007  Read the article

CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWS

From the Left:

Governor Romney has changed his position on key campaign finance reform issues several times during public life. During his 1994 Senate campaign, he held far left positions that advocated for abolishing PACs and creating strict campaign spending limits.

- Club for Growth's White Paper on Mitt Romney

From the Right:

As he runs for President, Romney abandoned his previous stance and has come out as a harsh critic of McCain-Feingold, and those presidential candidates who support it. His transformation has even propelled him to call for the legislation's repeal.
- Club for Growth's White Paper on Mitt Romney

ON HIS FAVORITE BOOK

From the Left:

He told Fox News his favorite book is L. Ron Hubbard's "Battlefield Earth"

From the Right:

He also told Fox news his favorite book is the The Bible

Or

Who Knows:

His MySpace page said his favorite book is "Huckleberry Finn"

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Watch a video from Mitt Romney's 1994 debate with Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA)

Talk about desperation, Did you see the debate? Clinton said "Words don't inspire people", she just killed the power of the "I HAVE A DREAM" speech, and the whole premise of "gospel music", oh, let's just stop listening to preachers why don't we? I mean really, if she just sticks to what she believe in, instead of trying to knock down others she would do much better!!

Talk about desperation, Did you see the debate? Clinton said "Words don't inspire people", she just killed the power of the "I HAVE A DREAM" speech, and the whole premise of "gospel music", oh, let's just stop listening to preachers why don't we? I mean really, if she just sticks to what she believe in, instead of trying to knock down others she would do much better!!

I've been wondering when/if the media would ever call Obama out on his mantra of non-specific "change."
He talks about change all the time.
But, he never says what specific changes he'll make.
I think it's about time for the press to be a little more fair with him, and start asking him specifically what he means. So far, they've treated him with "kid gloves."

Has any one noticed what a feeding frenzy this preelection coverage is doing? It seems all legitimate news has been wiped off the airwaves. Obama up 13 points! McCain attacks Romney! Iraq, Black Water, the destuction of the CIA tapes are all pushed aside or tucked on page15 in the papers. This is the corporate masters throwing a bone to the masses and MSM picking up the bait.

MCCAIN VS. HUCKABEE it looks like now it is just the two as Republicans we need to unite and pick between John McCain and Mike Huckabee and let us advance one of the two and get a Republican into office.

"We've sensed that a lot of reporters (even the ones taken with his tone) believe he hasn't been very specific. Will he drown us all in white papers?"

You folks are pompous jerks.  If you are so gung-ho to tear down a candidate over issues, then run for office yourselves.  Start listening and read the tea leaves First Read.  The country wants changes, and that includes your reporting tactics.

"Where's the beef!"? Hillary is so, . . yesterday.

You know Hillary, for someone that hasn't accomplishment anything major in her political life and is running around telling lies about how experienced you are, you should be a little careful when pointing out the  credentials of other candidates.

Question for the First Read team: Do you think Obama, if he were the nominee, could get Bloomberg for the VP spot? Seems like it would be win-win for both (except for the lack of foreign policy experience).

I find the "Where's the Beef" argument a bit comical - Senator Obama has a health care proposal, an education proposal, and a Social Security proposal. Senator Clinton pledges to form a bi-partisan commission for Social Security and mandate that we buy health insurance at today's outrageous prices.

Senator Clinton has spent the bulk of her campaign telling us what Senator Obama can't do, not what she can do. The simple fact is, no matter how great your plans are, you can't govern with the support of only half of the country.

Senator Obama's most important plan is to get a mandate from a WORKING MAJORITY of America's voters to govern this country with integrity and vision, not fear and doubt.

I know where the beef is!

Am I going insane or what?? I couldn’t wait to get up this morning (a Monday morning no less!!!!!) to turn on Joe Scarborough/MSNBC to get everyone’s take on the campaign thus far.  It has been so interesting and exciting to see how everything is playing out - quite the opposite from what I had imagined. I thought people would go into this election year very ho-hum, completely fed up with the process. I have been thankfully proven wrong.

A reminder from our youth that had somehow been forgotten until last week - if you want change, then you have to GO OUT and make change.

It’s now starting to sink in that we can now - at long last - turn our attention away from the awful, dreadful Bush years and begin to look towards the future.

Change is in the air. Finally.

Great, great program Morning Joe and Mika.

(Patriots/Giants).

I'm sure Hillary's investigators are being horse whipped into finding something and fast against Obama.  It would take a finding of him fooling around on his wife or another man to beat him now.

On a Saturday night when she has some free time, she likes to do some "kind of cleaning activity. I find cleaning closets and drawers to be extremely gratifying because you know there is a beginning, a middle and an end.

I'm sure she has done a very good cleaning of Obama's closets and found them to be very clean.  Now her closets are another story....


“We can’t be a new story, I’m sorry. I can’t make her younger, taller, male.”

Bill Clinton did not seem to have that problem with Monica....

If the republicans are going to be dragged into this change vs experience nonsense, then I guess we need to elect somebody who has not had any ties to the Washington scene.

Mitt found out what happens when you get ganged up by the others.  He did better Sunday then Saturday night.  I'm sure Obama saw the gang up inbetween the football game and the GOP debate and called John Edwards and said "Did you see that????  Hmmmm...I have an idea.."

Hillary says: "On a Saturday night when she has some free time, she likes to do some "kind of cleaning activity. I find cleaning closets and drawers to be extremely gratifying because you know there is a beginning, a middle and an end."


Come across any billing records Hillary?

With all due respect, any journalists who think Obama hasn't been specific enough are clearly incompetent.  Between his speeches, his extensive federal and state legislative record of eleven years, and the policies listed on his website, any literate person - whether they agree with Obama's positions or not - can tell what he intends to do as President.  Are we supposed to believe that you guys don't know how to use Google?

Talk about desperation, Did you see the debate? Clinton said "Words don't inspire people" <<- Kym

Did Hillary really say that? No way. She's not that stupid, is she?

Martin Koehler - the change Obama has been suggesting for a year isn't complicated, though while its something most of the country has been painfully wanting for decades, it does seem to be a concept Clinton supporters can't fathom.

Its simply an end to the childish part of the partisan trench wars. Republicans aren't evil. Independents aren't indecisive flakes. There are areas in which we can work toward consensus, in an atmosphere of political differences though mutual respect. That's it, in a nutshell. We want our leaders to stop acting like children.

Senator Obama has more beef than Senator Clinton.

If reporters are not finding them, then they are not doing their job right. Go to www.barackobama.com and he has well thought out policy details on Iraq, Education, Environment, Foreign policy, rural agenda, economic policy, healthcare you name it. They are detail, well planned and admired by experts of each areas.

For those reporters, I remind you, when he presented those policy proposal, you guys were busy in coronating the inevitable Clinton, he did not get your attention or a space in your column.

Ask Clinton what is her plan on Iraq? She will say she will have one within 60 days of her insuguration. Ask her about how she will solve social security? She will say i she will reduce the deficit first by turning economy around and then will figure out what to do about them. These are not plans. Obama has much better plan than hers. She does not wanna talk about her plans because she will be attacked by Repubs later. She does not care if people who will elect her deserve to know what will be her policies to impact their lives.

Again, for our wonderful professional media experts, all policy details are at your finger tip. People can take the horses to water but can't make the horse to drink. Horses have to drink on their own.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

You guys are nuts.  Romney clearly won the debate last night.  The focus group of N.H. voters saw it that way and yet you call it a draw.  In the future please hide your own agenda better.  If you watched last night you saw that Romney is the only Republican that can beat Obama in 08.  

First Read, the next time the Hillarylanders whine about substance in regards to Obama, please direct them to his web site and there is all kinds of policy.
Actually,I remember Obama giving alot of policy speeches in the summer while the media complained he was not being exciting.  So, what else do you want???

First Read: can somebody please start calling out Hillary on the "experience" question instead of just parroting her claims?

WHAT HAS SHE ACCOMPLISHED?   In the debate Saturday night, when she was putting "the beef" behind her claims of having accomplished change, she mentioned healthcare as her big accomplishment during Bill Clinton's administration.  Huh?

The Clinton camp is whining about the press not having vetted Obama.  Why doesn't the press highlight the fact that she CLAIMS to have done things without any substance to back it up.

This would be a great Romney ad:  "I'm Mitt Romney and yes I am a Flipper...I've flipped dozens of broken businesses making them profitable again...I flipped the debt and scandal ridden Olympics, turning a profit and restoring honor and integrity...I Flipped the Massachusetts Budget from a $3 Billion shortfall to a surplus that we used to expand health coverage...And I'll Flip Washington too by saying "NO" to earmark pork-barrel spending, holding government spending BELOW inflation, preventing Social Security from going Bankrupt, and improving the efficiency of our government."

Two others have already said it, and more probably will get their comments posted before I do, but the alleged "lack of substance" is the media's fault, not Obama's. Remember the actionable intelligence-go-after-pakistan-speech? That wasn't about Pakistan. It was about foreign policy with a focus on combating terrorism. But all we heard from the media was Pakistan. I read that whole speech, and it was excellent.

He's given substantive speeches on several topics so far this campaign season, and they've all been ignored. When he's substantive, he gets ignored, and when he uses soaring rhetoric he gets accused of lacking "beef." That's what's known as a catch-22. Do your job, MSM.

Obama '08!

Shouldn't Bloomberg endorse Obama at this point since he is running a bi-partisan campaign ?  This seems obvious to me at this point.  Is it just me ? Also, I like Bloomberg for VP.  I thought tihs was what they may have discussed over eggs.

If Hillary is serious about this "35 years of experience "nonsense, she needs to start backing it up with facts, starting with year one....

*****BREAKING NEWS!!*****

The specifics about Obama's plan in Iraq are starting to come out, and it is not pretty. A hed staffer for the Obama campaign speaking on FOX news this morning, said that Obama's Iraq plan would be as follows: on DAY ONE, Obama plan will be to immediately remove one brigade of American troops from Iraq on DAY ONE of his Presidency, and then remove one brigade of American troops each month, until ONE brigade of American troops and ONE counter terrorism unit is left to protect Democratic installations and fight Al Qaeda in Iraq. Obama and his campaign don't have a clue about what they are doing. People, our country is facing some of the most challenging times in American History, the ongoing war against Al Qaeda, unemployment above 5%, high oil/gas prices, a tanking economy that is going toward recession, mortgage foreclosure, millions of Americans without any health insirance, the list goes on and on. It is scary, but what is even more scary to me, is the fact the Obama Iraq plan that they just announced on FOX news. Incredible! Obama and his team don't knwo what they are talking about and showed their total lack of experience this morning. That is not a plan to get us out of Iraq safely, that is a plan that is insane and will get our men and women in uniform killed. Just on the whim, on DAY ONE, Obama will remove a brigade and keep removing brigades until we are down to one brigae and one counter terrorism unit to fight Al Qaeda in Iraq. WOW! JUST WOW!
The head staffer for Obama went on to say that she hopes everyone starts drinking the Obama elixir. Do the Obama people think the American people are stupid? What in the world is the Obama camp thinking? Obama and his campaign folks really are inexperienced. Incredible!

".....With all due respect, any journalists who think Obama hasn't been specific enough are clearly incompetent. ....." Shadow, Hamden, CT (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 9:54 AM)

Okay Shadow. So then tell us specifically what Obama is going to change.

".....Martin Koehler - the change Obama has been suggesting for a year isn't complicated, though while its something most of the country has been painfully wanting for decades, it does seem to be a concept Clinton supporters can't fathom.
Its simply an end to the childish part of the partisan trench wars. Republicans aren't evil. Independents aren't indecisive flakes. There are areas in which we can work toward consensus, in an atmosphere of political differences though mutual respect. That's it, in a nutshell. We want our leaders to stop acting like children......"
Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 9:58 AM)

Paul, I didn't ask what's wrong with the political process, I asked how Obama is agoing to change it.
You see, Democrats like Hillary have tried to be Bi-Partisan, and have tried to cooperate with the right wing before.
But, when they did, people like Obama trashed them for doing it.
So what is Obama really saying? That the Republicans are going to roll over for him, and him alone?
Or, is he saying that he's going to give in to them?
Either way, we still don't know what "changes" Obama would bring because he never tells us.
Your response "sounds good," Paul.
But, it really doesn't answer the question.
Very specifically, what is Obama going to change?
I think we have a right to know.

Dream Team:  Barack Obama and Colin Powell
Who could argue with that?

Question for the First Read team: Do you think Obama, if he were the nominee, could get Bloomberg for the VP spot? Seems like it would be win-win for both (except for the lack of foreign policy experience).
Joe Weinstein, Washington, DC (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 9:43 AM)

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Interesting thought.  I would think since the "experience" issue is perceived as a trouble spot for Senator Obama that he might go with someone with more foreign policy experience such as Richardson or Biden, especially if Senator McCain gets the Rep nod.  Personally, since I supported Senator Biden for President, I think he would be the perfect choice.  His only down side would be that Delaware does not bring many electoral votes onboard for Senator Obama, but he certainly would give wonderful foreign policy credentials to the ticket.  As in some ways, would Senator Dodd--but I think Senator Biden would be a better campaigner.

DID YOU FIND YOUR THESIS ON COMMUNISM WHILE CLEANING HILLARY, OR THE PAPERS FROM BILLS LIBRARY YOU REFUSE TO RELEASE.  DO YOU FIND MORE PAPERS THAT GOT LOST FROM VINCE FOSTER 'S DEATH, AND SOME ACCIDENTALLY TURNED UP ON A TABLE YEARS LATER, THIS IS THE MOST DISGUSTING WOMAM IN THE WORLD.

If "where's the beef" is Hillary's latest argument I think you can add that to the growing pile of useless campaign themes that aren't working for her. For one thing, where is Hillary's beef? After 35 years, or whatever her claimed amount of tireless service is, there should be a alot of beef.

Certainly in Obama's short time on the scene he has accomplished quite a bit. He was not afraid to tackle tough issues in IL such as the death penalty and ethics reform. In the US Senate he worked extensively on addressing nuclear proliferation and reducing the threat of loose weaponry falling into the wrong hands.

As a presidential candidate, he put together, in no time, a team that is successfully taking on the massive political machine of an establishment candidate and doing so without resorting to the same dirty tricks and personal attacks that have been used against him.

He has displayed a level of intellect, leadership skills and personal integrity that I didn't even think was possible in a modern politician. Obviously  he can't do it alone but given the type of Democratic congressional sweep he is likely to inspire in Novemeber against the disillusioned GOP, I feel the type of fundemental changes he is talking about are well within reach.  

As long as we're using beef analogies I plan to order Obama's fillet mignon over Hillary's ground roud.

From the LA Times:
Clintons fight for primary rebound
There are signs of a crumbling strategy.

By Mark Z. Barabak, Peter Nicholas and Robin Abcarian, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
January 7, 2008
NASHUA, N.H. -- With their presidential hopes and political legacy on the line, Hillary Rodham Clinton and her husband battled across New Hampshire on Sunday, fighting to become the comeback couple of the 2008 race.

Change was the word on their lips as they campaigned across this slushy state -- separately, to cover more ground -- taking thinly veiled shots at rival Barack Obama.

"You campaign in poetry. You govern in prose," Hillary Clinton told a raucous rally at a high school gym in Nashua, where the overflow crowd matched the Illinois senator's audience a day earlier.

Later, talking to reporters, she acknowledged some retooling in her campaign and drew a proverbial line in the snow. "If the campaign doesn't evolve, it probably is dead," she said. "And I don't intend for it to be anything other than a winning campaign."

In North Conway, in the picturesque White Mountains, former President Clinton challenged Obama's oft-stated boast that he, alone among the major Democratic contenders, had opposed the Iraq war from the start. Bill Clinton cited a July 2004 interview in which Obama offered a somewhat more qualified statement of opposition.

"The point is, it's inconsistent," Clinton said....'


Is THAT ALL YOU GOT ?
Hillary has consistently followed the polls on Iraq
She was for it, before she was against it

'...Clinton is undeniably on the defensive. A new batch of polls showed Obama steadily climbing in New Hampshire, after his unexpectedly strong victory in Iowa.

And in an ominous sign for Clinton, a recent University of New Hampshire survey found 6 in 10 Democratic voters said it was more important to them to find a candidate who could bring about change than to elect one with experience. In Iowa, the change argument also won out over experience, greatly benefiting Obama, according to a survey of voters entering their polling places....'


'...Members of Clinton's campaign circle, who operated with a confidence verging on cockiness over the last year, seemed perplexed by the abrupt turn the race has taken -- and grateful they had left Iowa, where voters expect the politicking to be more genteel.

Clinton's strategy had been to cast herself as the inevitable Democratic nominee, clearing the field with a series of early wins. Iowa was always seen as troublesome, given its leftward leanings, and New Hampshire was supposed to be a firewall.

There are signs, however, that wall is crumbling. So lately, the Clinton camp has begun playing up the importance of other states, in case of another disappointment in Tuesday's New Hampshire primary.

"We have the resources to go on," campaign Chairman Terry McAuliffe told reporters in a post-Iowa conference call, pointing to the avalanche of states voting Feb. 5. It is a message the Clinton team has been privately delivering to jittery supporters and donors in a series of buck-'em-up phone calls made over the last several days.

Inevitably, second-guessing and backbiting has begun within the campaign, some of it long-standing but finally emerging from behind closed doors.

Some Clinton strategists said privately they would liked to have seen the candidate make a greater effort to show the warmer, more personal side that was emphasized during a tour near the end of the Iowa contest....'

Good luck !!
The walls are closing in on Hillary
Get ready for a loss in New Hampshire....
And a loss in South Carolina......

GAME OVER !!
How sette it is !!

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James/Flag Staff/AZ

Where have you been for the last 7 yrs? "...and get a Republican into office." The point now is...WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER REPUBLICAN IN THE OFFICE!" Only 379 days left until he is gone!

Steve in Hartford....
Okay, so maybe you can tell us what Obama is going to "change."
Because, quite frankly, I've only heard him say the word itself.
I never hear him say what he's going to change.
Please tell us.

Please !!

Obama/Edwards '08
Honesty, Integrity, REAL REFORM

Yeah, you know I wasn't going to say anything.
But, I noticed that too.
Obama talks about "change".
But he never says what he's going to change.
How come the media never asks him, even in the debates?

M. Davis, New Hampshire wrote:
"People, our country is facing some of the most challenging times in American History, the ongoing war against Al Qaeda, unemployment above 5%, high oil/gas prices, a tanking economy that is going toward recession, mortgage foreclosure, millions of Americans without any health insirance, the list goes on and on. It is scary, but what is even more scary to me, is the fact the Obama Iraq plan that they just announced on FOX news. "

Being afraid of everything is not a solution. Regardless of whether your post is correct or not, I refuse to be afraid for the next 20 years.

Come what may, if America is always REACTING to  problems or perceived threats with blind fear instead of having the courage to face the reality of the situation and take POSITIVE STEPS to CHANGE things, we will still be facing the same problems 100 years from now.

After 8 year of fear mongering and lies, how are our lives better or safer? All of the problems you have listed have gotten worse, not better under the hapless management of self serving politicians in BOTH parties for the past 20 years.

Your post confirms what many Americans have alread figured out - it's time for a NEW APPROACH!

It's been a year, folks. Everything has been covered over and over and over again. Everything ever written from kindergarden on. Everything ever said. Every book ever written, Every issue, every white paper, every speech. Every vote ever taken. Everything. To say that the media or the campaigns have not fully covered the candidates is just desperate and absurd. We've heard the issues, we've heard the rhetoric, we've heard the pudits, we've heard the negative, we've heard the positive. And we've made a choice.

Who in the hell listens to faux news???????  The spew channel of this administration, come on let's get real.  Change is coming.

OBAMA/BIDEN '08

"If there's one thing that Obama is good at on the campaign trail, it's taking the attacks of his opponents and making light of them on the campaign trail"  The Democrats seem be be getting MUCH better at dealing with attacks, the ONE thing that has taken Republicans to victory in the last 2 elections, and Congressional elections going back several cycles further.  It simply doesn't work to ignore the attacks, or declare yourself above the fray, or put together a wimpy, waffling answer.  Whether it's Obama turning an attack into an asset, a Clinton-style rapid response team, or Edwards simply refusing to back down, this is one more place where the Democratic party is stronger than ever before.

I see that David Anders declared himself King at 10:35.

To M.Davis, NH

All I can say is WOW! No matter what the plan is for getting our troops home, it is a giant step in the right direction compared to the plan that idiot in the W.H. has come up with. All the Repub.crooks running for the idiot's job want to keep stepping in tune with him (with the exception of R. Paul). That won't get any of them into the oval office except as a visitor.

George Powell, Manchester, NH: '...Paul, I didn't ask what's wrong with the political process, I asked how Obama is agoing to change it....'

Let's start with the crooked 'pay to play' strategy
Hillary has been giving earmarks to her campaign contributors
Let's jave honest campaigns, without Norman Hus's and Peter Pauls
There are ALWAYS scandals bubbling around the Clintons.... there aren't any around Obama


'...You see, Democrats like Hillary have tried to be Bi-Partisan, and have tried to cooperate with the right wing before....'

You mean NAFTA and WTO ?
The Clintons have been pushing a 'Republican lite' agenda including loosening the rules on media ownership.....
They've done NOTHING for working people


'...So what is Obama really saying? That the Republicans are going to roll over for him, and him alone?...'

Hillary is TOO DIVISIVE
'If you want someone who'll stand up to the Republican attack machine....'
NO thanks, Hillary

'...Or, is he saying that he's going to give in to them?
Either way, we still don't know what "changes" Obama would bring because he never tells us....'


'...Very specifically, what is Obama going to change?
I think we have a right to know....'

How about HONEST GOVERNMENT ?
How about ending the 'politics of personal destruction' ?
How about ending the 'poll driven' foreign policy of Hillary ?
How about ending skirt chasing in the White House ?

OBAMA WAS AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR
Hillary was for it

Deal with THAT !

You know what, I've noticed the same thing.
I was going to support Obama
But, now I don't know if I should.
He never says what he'll change. He just says the word change, an awful lot.
I'm kind of surprised the press hasn't asked him what he means by "change."
Someone else on this board says it means he won't fight with the republicans.
Isn't it kind of silly to think that they're going to lay down for him, after fighting and bickering with Democrats far more Bi-Partisan than he is?
And anyway, doesn't he criticize Hillary for voting with Republicans? I don't quite understand what he means now.
He says he won't fight with the republicans, but he goes after Hillary for cooperating with them. (?)
That's kind of contradictive, isn't it?
I'm afraid I don't understand what exactly Obama's message is now, or what it is that he's going to change. I think he should do some explaining.

".....Your post confirms what many Americans have alread figured out - it's time for a NEW APPROACH!....."
Nashville_fan (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 10:40 AM)

Okay so, I'm sure you wouldn't mind telling us what that new approach is.

> Who in the hell listens to faux news???????  
>
> Terry, Disabled Vet, Des Moines, IA

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Apparently, lots of people. They are by far #1 in the cable ratings you know.

Now, just run off and listen to your NPR. And as far as my tax dollars being used to support it, you're welcome.

> Change is coming.

Indeed.

'...: “We’re going to lose South Carolina,” a Clinton adviser told the Politico. So could this mean Clinton sort of skips South Carolina? It's something the chattering class is talking about: Should she or shouldn't she? Is the state unwinnable?...'

Is Hillary 'electable' ?

She lost in the Mid West  ... Iowa
She'll lose in New England ... New Hampshire
She's conceding the South ? ... South Carolina

Is Hillary 'electable' ?
Shouldn't we nominate the 'most electable' candidate?

If she loses ALL THREE what's her rationale for running ?

What are Hillary's 3 biggest accomplisments in the Senate ?
What has SHE DONE as a Senator ?

Not during the Clinton administration....

What are HER ACCOMPLISHMENTS ?
ANYBODY ?

George, you're looking for a wonkish answer. There isn't one. Its simply a question of maturity, which voters seem to find in Obama.

Look at Clinton talking about working with Republicans just a couple days ago. Actually I think Bill said this - something about "dealing with the devil" to get things done. I think people are looking for someone who doesn't have what I at least see as a childish need to get the last insult (aka - the last shove on the playground).

We're just tired of it. Its childish. Its divisive. It makes people groan that we don't have adults in charge of Washington.

So, now we have hope that an actual adult is running.

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