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Clinton choked up at NH roundtable

Posted: Monday, January 07, 2008 2:01 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones and NBC's Christina Jamison
PORTSMOUTH, NH, Jan. 6 -- Hillary Clinton teared up at the end of a roundtable with undecided voters here the day before the primary.

After she fielded questions on how to stop manufacturing jobs from going overseas, housing, No Child Left Behind, and how she would get her healthcare plan through Congress, 64-year-old Marianne Pernold-Young, of Portsmouth, asked the senator how she got out of the house in the morning and who did her hair. 

Clinton joked about having help with her hair and then began to get choked up and teary-eyed.

"It's not easy and I couldn't do it if I just didn't, you know, passionately believe it was the right thing to do.  You know, I have so many opportunities from this country, I just don't want to see us fall backwards (voice breaks a bit, people applaud) This is very personal for me it's not just political, it's -- I see what's happening, we have to reverse it and some people think elections are a game.    

They think it's who is up or who is down. It's about our country it's about our kids' futures it's really about all of us together you know let's (inaudible) just put ourselves out there and do this against some pretty difficult odds. And we do it each one of us cause we care about our country. But some of us are right and some of us are wrong. Some of us ready and some of us are not. Some of us know what we will do on day one and some of us haven't really thought that through enough and so when we look at the array of problems we have and the potential for getting really spinning out of control this is one of the most important elections America's ever faced," Clinton said.

She then began to compose herself. 

"So as tired as I am -- and I am. And as difficult as it is to try and keep up what I try to do on the road - like occasionally exercise and try to eat right, it's tough when the easiest food is pizza - I just believe so strongly in who we are as a nation so I'm gonna do everything I can to make my case and you know the voters get to decide. Thank you."

Afterwards, a woman who had been on the roundtable told Clinton that she had been undecided but was now supporting her.

The meeting came one day before Clinton faces a crucial second test. It was a continuation of the "conversation" with voters the senator relaunched Friday after her devastating defeat in Iowa.

During the roundtable, Clinton tried to hammer home the notion that she was a 'doer not a talker', saying she was re-elected to the Senate not on basis of what she had promised but on what she had done and that she could point to the lives she had changed here in New Hampshire. In Saturday's debate, the senator criticized her chief rivals as being all talk and no action.
              
Reaction from Edwards, others
During the media frenzy that followed the near-tearful moment, the woman who asked the question, Pernold-Young, said she had been undecided before she arrived but would now vote for Clinton. 

"I'm shaken, I'm delighted with her.  I'm in love," she said. "I think she gave us her soul."

Two women looking on wondered aloud whether the press would make this into an "Ed Muskie moment". One of the women then touched her hand to her chest and said it was a "beautiful moment."

In a weekend interview with Access Hollywood, Clinton commented on candidates and tears.

"It's that difficult position that a woman candidate is in, because if you get too emotional that undercuts you. A man can cry, we know that. Lots of our leaders have cried. But a woman, that's a different kind of dynamic," Clinton said.

When asked if he had a problem with the senator crying, one of only two men on the 16-person roundtable, said he did not.

"I don't have a problem with it. I see it as a human attribute, so it doesn't bother me," said the father of two young girls. 

John Edwards was asked in Lakeport about reports that Hillary had teared up.

"I really don't have anything to say about that," he said. "I think what we need in a commander in chief is strength and resolve, and presidential campaigns are a tough business, but being president of the United States is also a very tough business. And the president of the United States is faced with very very difficult challenges every single day, difficult judgements every single day. What I know is that I'm prepared for that, and I'm in this fight for the middle class, foer the future of this country, for the long haul."

Tina Bruce, a roundtable participant from nearby Exeter, said afterwards that she was pleased to have been part of such an event, but that she was still decideding among the New York senator, Obama and Edwards.

"I would like to see her get the country as a whole motivated. I want the whole country behind her," Bruce said, adding that she had a lot of Republican friends who simply couldn't stand her.

"I'm not sure if Obama would do better," she said.

Roundtable participant Elizabeth Holcomb, a stay-at-home mom also from Exeter, who said before the event that she was leaning toward supporting Obama, had changed her mind by the end.

"She said a lot of things that resonated with me, like that we should have a stake in our health care and in our schools and I really believe that," Holcomb said.

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Fake!
Oh god, here we go......

Maybe she should do a "Leave Brittney Alone" video....
Senator Clinton, we wanted you to stand up to Bush and Cheney when it came time to vote for the war. You didn't.

Barack Obama was running for the United States Senate when he said Iraq was wrong. He put his political future on the line, going against the tide of the entire country.

If it appears you have gotten more negative press than Senator Obama, it is probably because you had such a huge lead for most of last year so the press spent more time on you.

This is not a popularity contest. It just seems that the more experience someone has, the most careful they become.

That's not good.
Yes, its good to see a softer side.  And after her showing in the debate the other night and now combined with her breaking down in tears, it seems a little....up and down.  There is a time and place to display emotions, but not when you are trying to convince voters that you are ready on day one and are tough and strong with conviction.  I want a President that has emotion, yes.  But I don't want one that breaks down crying when things aren't going her way, or when things get too personal.  And I am not just saying this because she is a woman, I would say the same thing if Obama or Edwards started crying.  If the country is in a situation that is dire and the President makes a speech regarding a tough situation, the last thing I want to see in a commander and chief is him/her crying over it!  
Awww.  Baby wanna bottle?  It's a contest, Clinton!
So now she is crying that the big black man is taking away her time to shine?  This is her motivation to get votes?

I really hope the NH voters see right through that
I am truly getting nauseous, she needs to stop!
I saw the moment on tv, I almsot cried as well.
you've got to be kidding me. Hillary's advisers are now resorting to manufacturing tears? this is how they plan to bring down Obama -- by crying? This wreaks of desperation and last minute strategy. Obama '08
Everything the Clinton campaign does is scripted - another scripted moment.
Oh... poor Hillary! She's crying because things are not going her way... I don't remember seeing her cry when she was the frontrunner! What a phony.
Game over
Edwards should stay away from the strength thing, it will nt resonate well with women, who can be both strong and emotional at once. As for the crying jag on Clintons part..... hmmm.. no comment right now.
Give me a break.  Is this Penn's latest rec?
She didn't choke up at any Iowa roundtable when she was the frontrunner!! This is really pathetic!
I think that the other canadates should have the opportunity to shed emotions they have been working just as hard....this is just another ploy and she is just saying shes the only one capable of running the country.. her record doesnt show it and i wont be    another 35yrs to find out say nothing about 4. If i had her money i wouldnt be running for president...I guess its the power of just be president and the benefits .....Change     Change   Not Hilary
At least she's done the "spade work" to be President.
I saw the video and I just don't believe these were real tears.  I'm trying to be objective here, but look into her eyes, she isn't crying.  She paused right before she "choked up".  It's as if she remembered what they told her to do and she figured now was the moment.  And even if her getting emotional was real, that's fine, but it still shows a weakness.  I'm sorry, I don't want to seem sexist, but we can't have that in a President.  I hold her to the same standard as any other candidate.  I don't look at her differently as a woman.  While she may get a pass because of her gender, what would the reaction be if that was Obama or Edwards?  Political death.  Then Hillary went on after choking up with her usual stumping of how she is the only one ready, how the others don't know what they'd do in their first day.  Preposterous.

By the way, I saw a preview of the Obama interview tonight with Brian Williams, and Williams showed him the latest Newsweek with Barack on the cover.  Barack started talking about how proud his Mother would be for this moment.  Tears?  No, even though they would be more forgivable in this case.
I do not fault Senator Clinton for getting emotional. Politics is indeed a dirty business. Of course, it is hard to miss the irony of some of the dirtiest tricks in this campaign originating with her campaign, but in the end, we are all human after all.
Worst actor since lindsey lohan
It didn't work for Brownback, it won't work for you.
There is a time and place to display emotions, but not when you are trying to convince voters that you are ready on day one and are tough and strong with conviction.  I want a President that has emotion, yes.  But I don't want one that breaks down crying when things aren't going her way, or when things get too personal.

She got emotional because she really cares about what happens to this country, because she's been a champion for women's and children's rights starting back when she was a law student at Yale. I am sure right now she is exhausted, as all the candidates must be from the nonstop campaigning, long hours with little sleep, so cut her some slack. She is in no way a weak person for having shown some emotion, and if Obama had done the same thing you would all be applauding it and you know  it.
You guys are very mean.  She was not crying because things are not going well.  When you have been trying very hard and are exhausted and trying to keep a positive attitude in the face of adversity, to have someone acknowledge and recognize how it must be for you very often will bring tears to your eyes.  I am really disappointed sometimes when I read these posts to see the degree of unkindness displayed by so many Americans.
Thank god Mr. Obama has come along to save us from this woman.
Oh... poor Hillary! She's crying because things are not going her way... I don't remember seeing her cry when she was the frontrunner! What a phony.
Roberto (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 2:13 PM)


I admit I must agree....her whole mantle is been how strong she is and she can stand up to republicans.  Well the guys are tired too...what if they started crying.  She was comparing Obama to Bush...seems she's more like him tearing up.  Get grip Hillary you are fustrated because you are losing and it is coming out.
I guess she's no longer "Fired Up and Ready to Go " ? ...
I wonder if this took place around the same time she called Bill on the cell phone - I have to say it does seem a bit fake. I have said for awhile now that what we needed from her was a human factor, to see that she really is subject to emotion and has a softer side. I think this goes a little far if it is scripted...I would rather see her telling about her convictions, her personal motivation and why she is who she is - not wearing her emotions on her sleeve.
We've been waiting for her to assume her comfort pose--VICTIM--and here it is, and MSNBC and the rest of the MSM eats it up!  Has she cried publicly for the soldiers who have died in a needless war?  HELL NO, but she crys because her personal ambitions are being jeopardized.  This BS reminds me of her husband tearing up when he pointed his finger at the country and said he didn't have sexual relations with "that woman."  This is orchestrated BS!  Am I supposed to believe that her appearance on Access Hollywood talking about displaying emotions and then subsequently crying today is just a coincidence?  This is pathetic and desparate and any woman falling for this should be embarrassed!
Do you guys think she would have cried today had she won Iowa and had been ahead in the NH polls? Let's get real.  
Why not show some emotion? This is a very taxing process, and I don't think she should be criticized for having compassion and determination for what she is trying to accomplish. Good for you Hillary for not follow the status quo, everyone keeps talking about change...right? A leader that has strong attributes is not weak for showing humanistic qualities. Where did we get this idea that we have to have a tough, macho, emotionless President to lead the country?
Actually, I don't doubt that the tears were sincere.  I'm just a little suspicious of her comments that she was crying for our country.  If she really can't handle a tough political race (and this is just beginning), would she be able to handle the challenges of the presidency?
Give us all a break.  Ms. Clinton is fine at slinging words at people, claims she is tough yet now seems to cry out of frustration when things get tight. She was fine with having others do her dirty work or when she was running over people and claiming her anointment as she once thought she would have.  She does have a "run away" husband not helping matters with his statements  of, he can't change her age, size or gender.  I do understand her frustration and that it seems her tears are grabbing a few women voters, but she has EARNED the frustration by her earlier tactics back-firing.  Humble pie often does not taste good!

Having said this, I am anti-Republican these days but do vote for the person and not the party as a general rule.

Hilary, you can't have it both ways...... get back on track and don't play coy.  Win fair and square as you are with the big boys now..... where you wanted to be, so stop protesting.  You claimed on Saturday that you were tough.......show it!
You guys are very mean.  She was not crying because things are not going well.  When you have been trying very hard and are exhausted and trying to keep a positive attitude in the face of adversity, to have someone acknowledge and recognize how it must be for you very often will bring tears to your eyes.  I am really disappointed sometimes when I read these posts to see the degree of unkindness displayed by so many Americans.

heartlight 3, Makawao, Hawaii (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 2:24 PM)


Then let this be a lesson for everyone running for President....

When you go looking for dirt, be prepared for the consequences of your actions.  Hillary tried to take Obama down for the count...couldn't do it......

She tried to take him down for the count at the Saturday debates....couldn't do it and got whacked broad side by John Edwards.  She got very meek after that.

If you are going to run for President, you keep your emotions in check, cry in private and you try like you are running for the highest office in the land, not for student council president.  If you lack the stones now, just wait till the general elections and the mud gets thicker and the punches get thrown harder.....
What makes this incredibly ironic is that she has tried her best to make herself the "strong candidate."   I don't have much sympathy for her, her campaign has been incredibly negative for some time now.  Even more important, notice how when she's really choking up she's going after Barack and Edwards about them not being right and not being ready!  What the heck.  If you're going to cry, don't complain about how the guys doing better than you are just plain wrong and you're right and it's your nomination and you'll cry if you want to etc etc etc.
THE CRYING ACT DIDNT WORK, I LOOKED AT THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK GROUND AND THEY WERE BORED LOOKING, HALF ASLEEP,  AND PROBABLY PAID TO SIT THERE, LOOKING LIKE GET THIS SH--IT OVER.  THIS PHONY CRYING AND PHONY CELL CALL SHOWS THIS WOMAN IS THE BIGGEST FRAUD IN AMERICA, WE ALREDY KNEW SHE WAS A CROOK AND THIEF   GOD WHAT DOES THIS SAY FOR AMERICA TO PUT A WOMAN LIKE THIS AHEAD, SHE SHOULD THANK THE UNION TEACHERS FOR NOT TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO READ
Jason in Chicago, you must be blind or just plain stupid because yes she did in fact tear up, I SAW the tears, so did the other people at the roundtable event, and her voice broke for a moment. There is no way she faked that.
You're just pissed off because some of the Obama followers have changed their minds and are voting for her instead.
Crocodile tears...Hillary cry me a river...fake. IF she cannot stand the heat she have to leave the kitchen.
She was not crying because things are not going well.  When you have been trying very hard and are exhausted and trying to keep a positive attitude in the face of adversity, to have someone acknowledge and recognize how it must be for you very often will bring tears to your eyes.  I am really disappointed sometimes when I read these posts to see the degree of unkindness displayed by so many Americans.
heartlight 3, Makawao, Hawaii (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 2:24 PM)

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I agree with much of what you said.  Some who post here refuse to acknowledge that all of the candidates have some admirable qualities.  In the eyes of many here, Senator Clinton could not do anything right; if she said the sun rises in the east, I think some would find something wrong with that.

I can see disagreeing with her proposals on the issues; what I can't understand is that deep hatred of her as a human being.  And in many cases, this hatred comes from people who support a candidate who says he wants to united us all. I think some of his supporters could learn a lesson from their candidate.

I didn't know America was so full of hate; I thought we were better than that.
She got emotional because she really cares about what happens to this country, because she's been a champion for women's and children's rights starting back when she was a law student at Yale. I am sure right now she is exhausted, as all the candidates must be from the nonstop campaigning, long hours with little sleep, so cut her some slack. She is in no way a weak person for having shown some emotion, and if Obama had done the same thing you would all be applauding it and you know  it.
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No, if Obama starting choking up, I'd call him a wuss.  

heartlight--kindness?  Her campaign has been the opposite of kind when it came to the dirty emails, the talking of his past drug addiction, the fact that there are people out there who still believe that Obama didn't put his hand on a Bible when he was sworn into the Senate.

Dirty tricks!  That is what got her here.  And now Bill is faking cell phone calls in the middle of an event saying "i love you too honey", her crying with a group of mostly women, and her going on Access Hollywood playing the woman card and talking about how hard it is for women to run for President....I am suppose to be buying this?

I am a woman and I don't buy this crap!
Lets face it she can't do anything right.... Give the woman  a BREAK.  I am so sick of the hillary bashing.  I'd like to see some of the critics contribute and take the time she has to do some good.
I like that video and reminds me of when I first fell for Bill.  It was the NY primary 1992 and Bill was campaigning 24/7.  He did the Charlie Rose show and rested his chin on his hand and talked from the heart like that.  It was compelling and memorable.  Hillary's performance wasn't quite the same, but it was raw and evoked true emotion.  I think it's a plus.

http://www.lezident.com
i'm not worried about her crying b/c i'm a woman and the older i get the more i tend to tear up at stuff too i notice and lately, nothing makes me tear up more than hearing obama speak.  He makes a person feel like Martin Luther King did in the 60's.  he speaks and i feel like we have another chance to get things right in this country.  i cried when they elected bush the first time b/c it was so messed up how that happened and i was furious the 2nd time when I looked at the war and the soldiers that lost their lives over total bullsh** and yet people still elected him.  Now i feel hopeful and proud again to think that we may make our country stronger than ever once again and again be known throughout the world as the Great United States of America that makes people wish this was their country, that makes people truly proud to be an American when they travel overseas, and that makes people look to us for the answers on how to get things right.  We need a new face and i love that obama isn't Washingtonian because that is what makes him great.  Not only that but he is able to reach across party lines and that is so very important these days.  We do need to get away from just the straight Red and Blue and Republican and Democrat and get back to us all being Americans.  Lets do right by our children and get something done; not just talked about.  i love hillary and I love bill but i do think that their time has passed now and we need to just do something daring and different and to the doubters i say, can anything be worse than what we just endured for the last 8 years? I mean really, think about it!!  
I only wish I could believe they were real tears.  But I can't.  I saw Bill do the crocodile tear thing one too many times and I thought he was acting, too.
tarelli i see you are still an idiot
HEY!!!! THERE'S NO CRYING IN POLITICS!!!!!!!
Crocodile's  tears.  A Cameleon.  She can do anything to steal the crown.
TARELLI  HILLARY CLINTON'S HATE NUMBERS SURPASS BUSH AND CONGRESS, DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN SANTA CLAUS
Game,set and match. Stress, long hours and grace under fire. These are the prerequsites of the job. "There ain't no cryin here." This is still early in the contest. My take is she won't be the last to buckle.
MARK MY WORD, THIS ELECTION IS OVER BY A LONG SHOT ! hillaryclinton.com
Now, I won't profess to have read every word Senator Clinton has uttered while campaigning, but it does seem that she likes to - let's say - borrow her opponents' themes.  First, it was "change".  Now, it's how "personal" all of this is. ("This is very personal for me it's not just political."  Very similar to what Senator Edwards said a few times in the debate the other night.)

It makes one wonder how it is that the Clinton campaign questions why many people see her as transparently phony.  This show of emotion may be completely genuine, but we've seen too much that seems the opposite to believe it anymore.


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