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Clinton choked up at NH roundtable

Posted: Monday, January 07, 2008 2:01 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones and NBC's Christina Jamison
PORTSMOUTH, NH, Jan. 6 -- Hillary Clinton teared up at the end of a roundtable with undecided voters here the day before the primary.

After she fielded questions on how to stop manufacturing jobs from going overseas, housing, No Child Left Behind, and how she would get her healthcare plan through Congress, 64-year-old Marianne Pernold-Young, of Portsmouth, asked the senator how she got out of the house in the morning and who did her hair. 

Clinton joked about having help with her hair and then began to get choked up and teary-eyed.

"It's not easy and I couldn't do it if I just didn't, you know, passionately believe it was the right thing to do.  You know, I have so many opportunities from this country, I just don't want to see us fall backwards (voice breaks a bit, people applaud) This is very personal for me it's not just political, it's -- I see what's happening, we have to reverse it and some people think elections are a game.    

They think it's who is up or who is down. It's about our country it's about our kids' futures it's really about all of us together you know let's (inaudible) just put ourselves out there and do this against some pretty difficult odds. And we do it each one of us cause we care about our country. But some of us are right and some of us are wrong. Some of us ready and some of us are not. Some of us know what we will do on day one and some of us haven't really thought that through enough and so when we look at the array of problems we have and the potential for getting really spinning out of control this is one of the most important elections America's ever faced," Clinton said.

She then began to compose herself. 

"So as tired as I am -- and I am. And as difficult as it is to try and keep up what I try to do on the road - like occasionally exercise and try to eat right, it's tough when the easiest food is pizza - I just believe so strongly in who we are as a nation so I'm gonna do everything I can to make my case and you know the voters get to decide. Thank you."

Afterwards, a woman who had been on the roundtable told Clinton that she had been undecided but was now supporting her.

The meeting came one day before Clinton faces a crucial second test. It was a continuation of the "conversation" with voters the senator relaunched Friday after her devastating defeat in Iowa.

During the roundtable, Clinton tried to hammer home the notion that she was a 'doer not a talker', saying she was re-elected to the Senate not on basis of what she had promised but on what she had done and that she could point to the lives she had changed here in New Hampshire. In Saturday's debate, the senator criticized her chief rivals as being all talk and no action.
              
Reaction from Edwards, others
During the media frenzy that followed the near-tearful moment, the woman who asked the question, Pernold-Young, said she had been undecided before she arrived but would now vote for Clinton. 

"I'm shaken, I'm delighted with her.  I'm in love," she said. "I think she gave us her soul."

Two women looking on wondered aloud whether the press would make this into an "Ed Muskie moment". One of the women then touched her hand to her chest and said it was a "beautiful moment."

In a weekend interview with Access Hollywood, Clinton commented on candidates and tears.

"It's that difficult position that a woman candidate is in, because if you get too emotional that undercuts you. A man can cry, we know that. Lots of our leaders have cried. But a woman, that's a different kind of dynamic," Clinton said.

When asked if he had a problem with the senator crying, one of only two men on the 16-person roundtable, said he did not.

"I don't have a problem with it. I see it as a human attribute, so it doesn't bother me," said the father of two young girls. 

John Edwards was asked in Lakeport about reports that Hillary had teared up.

"I really don't have anything to say about that," he said. "I think what we need in a commander in chief is strength and resolve, and presidential campaigns are a tough business, but being president of the United States is also a very tough business. And the president of the United States is faced with very very difficult challenges every single day, difficult judgements every single day. What I know is that I'm prepared for that, and I'm in this fight for the middle class, foer the future of this country, for the long haul."

Tina Bruce, a roundtable participant from nearby Exeter, said afterwards that she was pleased to have been part of such an event, but that she was still decideding among the New York senator, Obama and Edwards.

"I would like to see her get the country as a whole motivated. I want the whole country behind her," Bruce said, adding that she had a lot of Republican friends who simply couldn't stand her.

"I'm not sure if Obama would do better," she said.

Roundtable participant Elizabeth Holcomb, a stay-at-home mom also from Exeter, who said before the event that she was leaning toward supporting Obama, had changed her mind by the end.

"She said a lot of things that resonated with me, like that we should have a stake in our health care and in our schools and I really believe that," Holcomb said.

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The post doesn't matter much - The responses are always similar.  

I am concerned that the angry, negative rhetoric coming out of Obama supporters bodes ill for his insirational message.  Influence that produces this type of dialogue is very destructive.  Is this the change we want?
I WOULDN'T DO HILLARY EVEN IF I COULD FIND A 10 FOOT POLE
Lay off Hillary! By all appearences, Hillary has some type of clinical depression. Let us all hope she's getting the best mental health medical care available. With the right medications and counseling, she should be fine.
I was just reading though some posts from earlier this morning and someone said it was about time for hillary to try the crying ploy, but even I didn't think she would go quite that low, looks like I underestimated her dishonesty, which brings me to the next point, hillary will now resort to any means at her disposal to pull out a win, and with her staff who have absolutely no scruples cheating will be her next step, I am quite sure they have always had a plan on how to cheat when the time came, it will be interesting to see what type of devious plan they have come up with, and if they can pull it off without being caught, if I were edwards and obama I would be ready for anything, because it's coming as surely as the sun came up this morning
Blast from the past:  Ed Muskie.  She better hope it doesn't go over as badly as it did for him.
How stupid and nasty can people get? Obviously very, judging from many of the above posts. There is no way in hell that the emotion displayed by Senator Clinton was faked, and I doubt that anyone really believes that to be the case. It is just another opportunity for the Clinton haters to rear their ugly heads.
p.s. America voted in the idiot, George Bush who is still learning on the job.Now all we need is Obama to put us over the edge.If America wants change ,they only need look to themselves.This country is going "backwards", nice job everyone ! Must go get my passport, see ya'.
I am completely afraid of Hillary right now.  She is crying because she is loosing.  Period.. Remember when she said a couple of debates ago when she was on top?  She said "You are just upset because I am winning!"  Where is the cock-sure super chick now?? This is all manufactured and a bit trite and tiresome..  I am completely afraid of someone who swings from one emotional extreme to the other having the power to plunge the United States into yet another senseless war.  All because she got her feelings hurt... GO OBAMA GO!
Imagine your boss crying because thingd look tough. You would look for another job. I didn't see Obama cry when HIS PERSONAL CHARACTER was attacked by her group. He didn't rub it in. He had a tough time in the summer but didn't crumble. She is crying because SHE wants to win for herself....sad indeed.
I WOULDN'T DO HILLARY EVEN IF I COULD FIND A 10 FOOT POLE
Give me a break!  It just so happens that Obama scored in Iowa with his change message so she tries to co-opt it.  On Saturday, Edwards scored big points with me in the debate when he talked about how personal this run is for him and now Hillary pulls the "personal" card.  She just about had me convinced that she had changed a couple of months ago - now I can see that that isn't the case - AT ALL!
Tareli- we would applaud it from Obama because we know that Mark Penn didn't tell him to do it.  It would be authentic and honest.
It seems to me that about 80
% of these comments are from MEN!
Hey Heartlight, she called while she was going over her 'Day One' and ready stump speech.........THE LADY ASKED HER ABOUT HER HAIR, NOT OBAMA
She's done. Stick a fork in her.
Crocodile Tears....HRC is as savvy and calculated politician as I've ever seen.  

BTW, while we are on the subject of HRC, will someone anyone please confront her on her alleged 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE...She has 7 years relevant experience as far as I'm concerned.
Did she really cry?  Yes, no, or who cares?  I honestly don't know if she really was crying or doing a bad acting job, but what I do know is that I don't want my President to cry when times get tough, at a funeral or similar sad occasion but definately not when things aren't going right.  Seems like Senator Clinton is going back to the "they are picking on me" line (which by the way didn't work so well the first time so she might want to reconsider this).

There are many reasons why I won't vote for Senator Clinton, but her crying isn't one of them (though it does show something about her.. ie either she can't handle pressure or is trying to play the victim, and niether of these are very attractive in a candidate).

I will say this on a purely human level - my heart goes out to all the candidates during the election time, they all expend tremendous amounts of energy and emotion.  My heart goes out to them when they crack, but that doesn't get my vote only my sympathy.
Did she really cry?  Yes, no, or who cares?  I honestly don't know if she really was crying or doing a bad acting job, but what I do know is that I don't want my President to cry when times get tough, at a funeral or similar sad occasion but definately not when things aren't going right.  Seems like Senator Clinton is going back to the "they are picking on me" line (which by the way didn't work so well the first time so she might want to reconsider this).

There are many reasons why I won't vote for Senator Clinton, but her crying isn't one of them (though it does show something about her.. ie either she can't handle pressure or is trying to play the victim, and niether of these are very attractive in a candidate).

I will say this on a purely human level - my heart goes out to all the candidates during the election time, they all expend tremendous amounts of energy and emotion.  My heart goes out to them when they crack, but that doesn't get my vote only my sympathy.
Some of the people on this board are really pathetic.  If you really think Hillary is faking, you're an idiot.  Why would a woman running for President cry in front of people unles it was true emotions?  Crying for a female candidate can only make her look weak to idiots out there like you.  It's certainly not going to help her campaign any. So any of you dumbasses who are picking on Hillary should be happy, because in the eyes of this male dominated culture, it only helps your canidate.  
She saw the new nat'l and NH poll numbers. Her donors are contemplating jumping over to Barack Obama. I would probably 'whell up' too. Funny, her compassion did not show when she was sliming/smearing Barack Obama. CRY ME A RIVER--JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE
Maybe it is just me, but I assume that politics is personal for every person that runs for president. Why else put yourself through it?

Maybe she is human after all, but I still don't believe she is the best person to run this country - tears or not.
Before you judge her see for yourself:

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4097366

This is a woman who cares about what happens to this country, who cares about the futures of our children.
This was in no way false emotion. You think Obama cares that deeply? He's just an empty suit with an overinflated ego who just wants to win for himself.
Oh god, here we go......

Maybe she should do a "Leave Brittney Alone" video....

jerry/corpus christi texas (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 2:07 PM)
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*chokes on Big Mac*
I was thinking the same thing...
She's crying because Bill can't make her younger, taller, or male.
The telling comment is the woman who said "she had a lot of Republican friends who simply couldn't stand her."
Her negatives are thru the roof .....  it will a Republican landslide if she is the nominee for the Democrats.
Now, I don't like Hillary, but dam some of these posts are pretty cruel...I think the last thing Hillary wants to do is come off emotional... She knows we can not have an emotional Commander and Chief.

But she is probably about to break and it’s everyone’s fought around her…They were the ones who gave her false hopes about winning the Presidency…. And now that it’s an actual race, they don’t know how to handle it because they weren't prepared.  And because they weren’t prepared, they have resorted to falsifying Senator Obama Record, which was disputed if you watched any part of MSNBC this morning…And because America is ready for a change, even the Media is not going to put up with this nonsense. They want to be part of history and not part of its destruction

Hillary, you can’t say you will be ready on day one when you weren’t were ready to fully compete from the Presidency…. Nothing in life is easy and that includes the Presidency.

A Humbling Experiences
Yes, its good to see a softer side.  And after her showing in the debate the other night and now combined with her breaking down in tears, it seems a little....up and down.  There is a time and place to display emotions, but not when you are trying to convince voters that you are ready on day one and are tough and strong with conviction.  I want a President that has emotion, yes.  But I don't want one that breaks down crying when things aren't going her way, or when things get too personal.  And I am not just saying this because she is a woman, I would say the same thing if Obama or Edwards started crying.  If the country is in a situation that is dire and the President makes a speech regarding a tough situation, the last thing I want to see in a commander and chief is him/her crying over it!  

Lynn, Washington DC (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 2:08 PM)
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Between the angry, Cujo version of Clinton we saw Saturday night and this version, I wonder who needs Dr. Phil more--her or Britney.
Give Senator Clinton a break - all of the candidates have been working extremely hard under difficult circumstances trying to get their message out to the
American people for a long, long time. Lack of proper rest and nutrition can play havoc on anyone's emotions including the authors of these negative posts.

When Senator Clinton speaks from her heart, she is an actress - if she keeps her emotions to herself, she is cold and calculating.  No matter what she does in the eyes of some individuals, she is wrong!

As far as her crying goes, she's faking or acting. When President Bush(41), President Clinton, and President Bush (43) have been known to cry, they're
"sensitive."  

Let's learn as much as we can about candidates so that we are prepared to cast an "intelligent" vote when we go into that voting booth and not vote on promises yet to be fulfilled!  Check their track record then decide.

JB, Nutley, NJ



Perhaps I'm just being cynical, but what with the talk of her campaign's attempts to show her "softer side" to voters, and then it just so happens that a day before the primaries she cries in front of a group of undecided voters, it's difficult to trust the legitimacy of her tears. They may very well have been a real sign of her passion for our country, but the fact that there's actually a debate going on about the realness of her emotions is indicative of a larger issue at hand -- our ability to trust her. If we can't trust that when she cries it's real, then how are we ever going to ever trust her with our nations' future?
hillary will win you see in the end mark my words go hillary
The girl card played, the woman card played, now the crying card is played.

Is this real?  Depends on what the definition of "is" is.

I saw the moment on tv, I almsot cried as well.

Aidyn, NY (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 2:12 PM)
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I hope it was because you couldn't find the remote to change the channel...
Could the media finally be coming off of thier Obama love struck high...just a little bit? Following are some DIRECT QUOTES from Howard Fineman of News Week circulating on the web (of course both Newsweek and Fineman has been big Obama cheerleaders).

“Obama isn’t quite the outsider and systematic change agent that he claims to be. Yes he is an African-American who now calls the South Side of Chicago home – and that will always make him an outsider to some extent. In many other ways, however, he is just a new wave of what Bill and Hillary were years ago – an on-the-make, Ivy League-educated, Democratic lawyer eager to seize power in Washington.”

“The Clintonistas held a conference call yesterday to point out some relevant things: that Obama’s New Hampshire co-chair was a drug-company lobbyist; that the senator had vehemently opposed the Iraq war but then voted repeatedly to fund it; that he had said he wanted to scrap the Patriot Act and start over, but then voted for it. As I listened to the conference call, I couldn’t for the life of me understand why the Clinton folks didn’t highlight these and other items much earlier.”

“Edwards and Obama gangup…They did it here in New Hampshire at the ABC debate. Hillary got angry. She had reason to be. She had a right to respond aggressively to both of them. Edwards’ patients’ bill of rights never did pass; Obama indeed has talked out of both sides of his Cheshire-cat-grin mouth from time to time.”
Was this emotional display really sincere, or just a cry for HELP!!!

O. Barnes, Pearland, Tx.
First Read: "Clinton joked about having help with her hair and then began to get choked up and teary-eyed."



Hillary's hair isn't that bad.  When you get older, your hair starts to look like that. What is Hillary, 74, 75?
p.s. America voted in the idiot, George Bush who is still learning on the job.Now all we need is Obama to put us over the edge.If America wants change ,they only need look to themselves.This country is going "backwards", nice job everyone ! Must go get my passport, see ya'.

C.B. (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 2:57 PM)
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Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!

Oh please. It's the stupidity, stupid. How dumb do the dumb Clinton people think we are? Sure, she just happened to have a meltdown in the course of which she addressed and included all the buzz words that are working for other candidates. "It's personal" a la Edwards; it's about you not me, a la Obama; I'm warm not cold a la 35 years of her personal history. Yuck. It didn't work to imply that Obama's a drug dealer. It didn't work to send a previously good man, Bob Kerry, out to lie about Obama's schooling and make an issue of his middle name...then there's kindergarten "joke" that, according to the Clintonites, every reporter in America was too idiotic to get.
CHUCK TODD -- you are way too savvy to get taken in at this late date.
Can't wait to hear from CHRIS...
WAAAAA its all Rush Limbaughs fault, waaaaaaa its all ABC's Fault. WAAAAAAA its all NBCs fault. What we are witnessing is a breakdown in the Clinton Thug Machine, Can divorce be far behind and the Clinton Thugs blaming everyone, INCLUDING black America for thier problems  SOMEONE CALL DR PHIL!!!!!
she is a such a manipulative "you know what".  she is now playing the gender card with her comments on TV and at the debate.  you don't see obama playing the race card.  it is pathetic and if hiliary wins the nomintion i will either vote for mccain or i won't vote.  
I can see Hillary getting choked up when she speaks about the opportunities she has had, and when she speaks about this election and what it means to the country right now.
She's right, too many people view elections as "beauty contests" instead of the serious business that they really are.
Unfortunately, The Democratic Party is being snowballed by independents, and republicans who want us to pick the weakest possible candidate.
I'm kinda glad people are starting to ask what Obama is going to change, because he hasn't said up to now.
I'm also glad the main stream media is saying that it needs to start asking him about what he's going to change, and how he's going to do it.
I know this pisses off his supporters. But, it's about time someone pressed him for straight answers.
I wonder is the tears were really sincere or just a call for help
she can cry all she wants,she never cried for all those kids that have died in iraq, not even an apology,yeah right show your personal side what does she cry?how about crying for those kids she send in the desert???????fake
Some of the people on this board are really pathetic.  If you really think Hillary is faking, you're an idiot.  Why would a woman running for President cry in front of people unles it was true emotions?  Crying for a female candidate can only make her look weak to idiots out there like you.  It's certainly not going to help her campaign any. So any of you dumbasses who are picking on Hillary should be happy, because in the eyes of this male dominated culture, it only helps your canidate.  

stopwatchingfoxnews, Rochester, NY (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 3:04 PM)
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Why would she cry? She was almost handed the Democratic Nomination by the media a year ago and now they're presently measuring the campaign for its coffin. That might be why. She felt entitled to the job and won't get it. Either way, it's crap. We want emotion. As much as I hate the bastard, Dubya's emotions right after 9/11 were real and no one faults him for it. This, this is simply trying one more tactic to get votes. A tactic that'll fail as miserably as the others.
I bet every candidate has cried.  If they have not, then they are not human, and I certainly do not want them running our country.
I would like to have been a fly on the wall wherever Bill and Hillary Clinton were when they were working on George McGovern(the Barack Obama of that campaign)'s Presidential campaign in 1972 when it was announced that Ed Muskie (the Hillary Clinton of that campaign) had broken down in tears.

I would be curious to know how unkind they were at that moment.  Irony is one of the many aspects of life that truly make it worth living.
It does leave one wondering how well she might do against the Republicans who might much harder on her.  I wonder what she considers more hurtful; an attack from a fellow Democrat or a Republican from the other side.  
I watched Senator Clinton on CSPAN over the weekend doing a one-hour tour de force that convinced me she has the experience and grasp of the issues and should be our next president. She didn't dodge questions, she didn't take a sip of water and she didn't CRY--she was on her feet for an hour answering EVERY question in great detail on many topics. We have an inexperienced president now. Do we need another?
A conservative blogger wrote on Jan. 2:

What I dread most in this political season is the “genuine” moment - and it is coming, soon, sometime between today and tomorrow, or tomorrow and New Hampshire - when Mrs. Clinton, in her ongoing effort to turn herself into whatever the polls says she must be, cries in public. It’s going to be genuinely ghastly.

I am an Obama supporter and have almost been feeling badly for Clinton lately but this episode just hammers home to me the issue with her.  It's all about me, me, me.  I don't think the American people want Hillary to ride to the rescue.  I don't think we are interested in fulfilling her ambitions.  America thrives when we are brought together and I don't think she has it in her.  It is about her and not enough about us.  This has been exposed.
Maybe she is sincere.....but I still want Obama to win....its time for a major change...


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