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Anti-abortion protestors heckle Obama

Posted: Monday, January 07, 2008 7:33 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's Lee Cowan and NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
Rochester, N.H. -- Obama was heckled from the balcony of a theater here. A group of about 10 protestors began to chant "Abortion is abomination." The audience in turn began to shout, "Obama! Obama!" And in the top balcony many started screaming at the protestors telling them to shut up.

Obama from the stage said, "Guys! Guys!" Initially he told the protestors, "I'll talk to you afterwards."

The scene escalated with angry shouts from the audience directed toward the protestors telling them to, "Shut up, go  home." And one man even screamed, "Kill the babies!" An older gentleman put his head down and stuck his hands in his ears. It  was unpleasant on both sides.

The police came after about five minutes and were greeted with cheers by the audience. The protestors voluntarily left chanting the entire time. When the hecklers had left, Obama joked, "Excitement is over, or maybe it's just beginning."

And he said, "Let me just say this though. Some people got organized to do that. That's part of the American  tradition we are proud of. And thats hard too, standing in the midst of people who disagree with you and letting your voice be heard."

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worried have u ever thought about fearing god and worshiping the creator
To Joe in PA:  Don't tell me you actually BELIEVE that everybody in TN is married to a family member!?  What a rude and uneducated remark.  And you actually think you can make a logical decision about a presidential candidate when you can't even make sense about marriages in TN????  P.S.  I'm not from TN so have no need to "defend" people there.  I just can't stand people making such false and ridiculous claims. . .  you must be a Democrat!
Sounds like Clinton fans are taking a cue from the leader. except she was crying fake tears and your crying real ones. *LOL*

OBAMA 08!!!
"Kill the babies"?? Seriously?

That's just sick.
Everytime one listens to Obama speak, it sounds more and more like a church sermon.  Lots of style, little substance.  Democrats should know better, and avoid continuing the dubious tradition of becoming their own worst enemies in national elections.  All across the country, members of the Democratic party have little confidence in this man, which contributes to the 25% support for Obama in national polls.  And as far as the "young" vote is concerned, be weary of allowing little life experience to dictate the future of our nation.  For all of those independents hiding in the shadows, time to step forward and think with your minds as opposed to raw emotions.  Try not to fall asleep on the preacher while he has his hands reaching for the collection basket.
I will never vote for Hillary for many reasons- however, I will agree with her on one point. Her political knowledge and experience leaves Obama lacking. There isn't enough out there to vote on with him. Edwards also leaves him lacking. He isn't the candidate for me. In fact, any of you on this website would be as appealing to me as he is for president- I don't know you and I feel I have learned nothing concrete regarding him. I don't feel like he will be able to gather DC like he will have to so changes can take place. I think he would make a great Speaker of House or even head of the White House News Corp. But he fails to impress me as anything like a VP or Pres. level of service. When he speaks, I only feel like I am hearing what he thinks I want to hear. I do not see anything genuine. Maybe over this year, things will change. But I can't see why anyone would seriously consider him.
Worried Tennessee must also think Obama was in the UFO Dennis saw.

I am amused by the Hillary supporters squeezing every last drop of blood from the stone. When she started chirping about being an agent of change, I knew she was done.

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Why doesn't anyone point out the fact that Barack HUSSEIN Obama is a MUSLIM.  He is emphasizing he is an "African-American" because his biological father was a "non-practicing Muslim".  After divorcing when he was 2 yrs. old, his mother remarried a PRACTICING MUSLIM and he attended a Muslim school.  Did you really think his name was African??  Wake up, people!  I don't care how much of a smooth talker he is, even if he's the best of the best - I will not vote or trust the Presidency to a person with a foundation in Islam, stemming from early childhood.  Why doesn't Obama talk about his roots openly with the American people?  Why don't the American people look a little more closely???  Research...educate yourself, READ something of value and validity and stop getting swept away by smooth talk.  I'm sure Islamists all over the world are watching and waiting, following Obama's progress with smirks on their faces.  How ironic this is all turning out.
To S.D.
Campaigns use plants when they are in trouble. Clinton's in trouble, Obama isn't. It's quite easy to figure that out. It serves no useful purpose for Obama to risk using plants when he is ahead in every poll on the eve of the NH primary. It's quite obvious Clinton isn't in that same position. They are desperate and they've done such things in the past.
Wow. After three years in Germany and hearing how stupid European countries find the U.S., for the first time, I have never agreed with them more. Listen Tennessee, Hussein is a common name in other parts of the world (you know, places outside of your Walmart and tennis club)--this is like being suspicious of your neighbor Charlie because of Charles Manson. Children do not pick their names, their nutty generation-locked parents do.
If anything, Barack's interesting name points to the fact that he was mothered by a young midwestern girl who was open to culture and unashamed of change--the only kind of girl who could foster an Obama. So in my opinion the name says everything--and everything it says is good.
Hilary is the only REAL candidate that can bring change. She has dedicated her whole life to helping others. She has the Experience and the guts to make United States a United Country once again. Some of you are fooled thats why Bush won, because others vote for the popular person and not the best candidate. I vote for Hilary!
Wow. After three years in Germany and hearing how stupid European countries find the U.S., for the first time, I have never agreed with them more. Listen Tennessee, Hussein is a common name in other parts of the world (you know, places outside of your Walmart and tennis club)--this is like being suspicious of your neighbor Charlie because of Charles Manson. Children do not pick their names, their nutty generation-locked parents do.
If anything, Barack's interesting name points to the fact that he was mothered by a young midwestern girl who was open to culture and unashamed of change--the only kind of girl who could foster an Obama. So in my opinion the name says everything--and everything it says is good.
I had an impromptu friendly discussion today with a democrat, a republican, an independent and a 'politics unknown' person regarding the presidential elections. (in a waiting room at the tire store of all places!) I was amazed at the passion and frustration each of the discussions participants expressed about our current administration and their opinions regarding the different candidates in both parties. If the room we 5 were in was a 'caucus', the demos would win all 5 votes to 'anybody but a republican' EXCEPT 1 man said he would never vote for Mr. Obama because of his middle name. I asked him what his own middle name was, he said David, so I told him I would never vote for anyone with the middle name of David. He said that I didn't make sense, that I was being irrational, I should not make decisions based on what a person's middle name was. Before I responded, the 'unknown' man said "Here's your sign!!"
It was a hilarious and disheartening discussion all at the same time......Faux News and their fellow travelers have done well to bring suspicion upon Mr. Obama's loyalty and patriotism. For shame!  
Hey Joe from Philly, why dont you go get laid with your boyfriend since we all know GAYS originated in Pennsylvania, you moron.  It's not very nice when someone stings you with such a horrible stereotype is it?  And since the webmaster overseeing the use of these blogs obviously allowed such a nasty remark AS Joe's, he shouldn't have a problem with mine.
Maybe Hilary sent them, to disrupt his speech.  Ever think of that?  Anyway, he, as always, went back to our Constitution and what we as citizens have the right to do. He will protect the Constitution as President. He is a teacher of Constitutional Law.  All day long Clinton has been attacking him, deriding MLK, distorting his record, pulling the Al Quaida card from the Republican play book, crying on camera, and Obama has stayed a gentleman through it all, composed and Presidential.
Barack Obama is a good representative for change because he is an inspiring orator but we need to learn more about him.  He has not been peer reviewed or vetted.  This country is ready for change because of the Bush administration, but it takes a great person with understanding to fix the damage that has been done to this country.  The first year of the president-elect will be dedicated just to fix whatever the Bushies managed to destroy.  The 2nd or 3rd year will be managing the country and the 4th year will be slotted to fulfill campaign promises. Therefore, we want someone who'll be able to do the job.  Obama has to be vetted first if he is the right Democratic Candidate.
Obama are not friendly with USA Muslim. Muslim people from SearchingMuslim.com are proposing an activity to against him.
I will say, typically I lean more towards Republican candidated but I may change my mind this next election. Obama seems to be real with people. He hasnt tried to hide anything. Heck, when asked the famous "have you ever spoked pot and did you inhale" question, his response was "Yeah, isnt that the point?". He seems to be upfront and honest on his beliefs and hasnt really waivered very much like a lot of candidates tend to do. I definitely believe that Obama will get my vote this year.
I will say, typically I lean more towards Republican candidated but I may change my mind this next election. Obama seems to be real with people. He hasnt tried to hide anything. Heck, when asked the famous "Did you inhale" question in regards to his experimenting with weed, his response was "Yeah, isnt that the point?". He seems to be upfront and honest on his beliefs and hasnt really waivered very much like a lot of candidates tend to do. I definitely believe that Obama will get my vote this year.
It was a set up.  The whole thing was staged.  Those people were paid to disrupt the meeting, Obama was briefed and coached on how to respond.  Politics.  Sheer politics.  
Okay everyone, let's say for the sake of argument that they were both plants. (I don't belive that, but let's pretend.)

In this case, guys heckle Hillary and she gets to jump in and defend herself, looking smart and quick in the process. It's reminding everyone how tough it is to be a woman in politics.

People heckle Barack, and the CROWD does the defending. And Barack does what he always does, becomes the voice of reason and is willing to listen to both sides, even if the other guys are pretty nasty.

Which 'plant' scenario is smarter? Which do you think is braver?

A. Reminding the world that there are nasty sexist pigs out there?

B. Offering to rationally talk to anti-abortion nutjobs who are trying to derail a campaign appearance?
Its not over guys if hillary comes in second with the south and the rest of the caucuses you may see a change it's happened before and regardless of what happens in new hampshire tomorrow, Hillary comes in second. it's a whole new ball game. edwards out an hillary builds the momentum with the rest of the caucuses left till feb 5th.. Go Hillary!!!!!!!1
please people when you talk of lobbyist talk about the many that already have the clintons in their pockets.   They have  to pay back all those favors once in the white house...................simply OBAMA does not!!!!
I agree with worried. obama was sworn in with his hand on the Koran, NOT the Bible. HE won't put his hand over his heart and sing the National Anthem, and he won't wear a the nations flag pin on his lapel. Maybe this seems petty, but who does he represent. Not the AMERICA I know!
please people when you talk of lobbyists talk about the many that already have the clintons in their pockets.   They have  to pay back all those favors once in the white house...................simply OBAMA does not!!!!
Obama is a likable dude.

Sort of like that Manchurian Candidate guy.

Too bad he doesn't have the guts to admit abortion is murder.
He is good at leading unorganized crowds of people but is he good at leading a country?  Real leadership experience?  He took the oportunity to use the situation to boister his campaign is all.  
Hey Rob K. (Seattle, WA),
Oh Boy, a pro-choicer from Seattle.  What are the odds?  Hey, get a clue, the pro-lifers equate abortion with murder.  Do you have the right to murder?  They may or may not be right but they do have a point.  Respect of life or of the possibility of life.
THis is an American tradition Bush was terrified of.  He would not allow anyone who disagreed with him to come within 1,000 yards of him.  The audience was handpicked and if someone wore a T-shirt with an opposing opinion they were ejected.  Maybe we are back to a democracy in America and King George and his traditions will be dethroned.
How come it was easy to do drugs and not say no. Too hard for you Obama?
Obama handled this situation extremely well.  HOpefully for him, he doesn't become a member of the Clinton Body COunt.  Google that - you won't belive it.
It is obvious that Obama has what it takes to be the next president of the United States.  He is a true gentlemen, and he is intelligent, educated, and has good manners.  I was a republician, but after hearing Obama speak in Iowa.  I changed my mind, he really gave an excellent speech in NH last evening on "Hope", and we hope means to him, and for us as a nation.  
"GO OBAMA"

Supporter, Indianapolis, IN
What, these people get lost looking for the Hillary event? Fake staged protests are down the hall and to the left guys. Look for the "Hillary" signs.
hell, they were heckling the wrong canidate. when barack had a chance to vote to defend a woman's choice, he voted "present".

he wouldn't want to be on record voting for or against any issue. He Nevers  Stands up.
Tuck, Realityville, Ks (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 8:53 PM)
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Tuck, you're an idiot!
He voted present in coordination with planned parenthood of Illinois(who help draft and support htis bill). This was already explained, but I'm not going to expect someone from Ks to understand.(hello, creationism in thier schools)

Worried TN., if your parents got a divorce, would they still be considered brother and sister?
I find it funny that none of the Hillary people claimed this was a plant, yet when there was two men wearing, "Iron my shirt" T-shirts and shouting sexist things at Hillary, the Obama people say it's a plant.  Just shows the class of Hillary supporters and the shameful acts of the Obama people.  I like Obama, but his supporters are some of the most mean spirited people when it comes to Hillary.  
So Hillary has these two guys as plants they say "Iron my shirt!"...and that's all they say.  They have signs with the same slogan.  Now in today's day and age are we to believe these guys are the real deal?  Here's the facts who are they?  Usually when something like this occurs we have information on them because the press will likely want to interview people like this.  But no mention of who they are at all.  Hillary's desperate she feels entitled to the Presidency Obama feels honored to be a part of the process.  Remarkable how he handled those protestors I find myself really pulling for him.

Obama '08!
I wanted to vote for Obamba but I am pro life and against gay's rights.  I used to be a Dem. but I am now going to register as a independent.
Quote,M.Northup:

"what is up with the Lobbyist he hired in N.H.? kind of contradictory don't you think?"
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-A Lobbyist is simply defined as follows: . The law requires formal registration as a lobbyist if an individual's lobbying activity exceeds 25 contacts with decision makers in a two-month period.

Not all lobbyist give money to congressmen.  There are also 2 types of lobbyists, federal and state lobbyists.  Obama's NH co-chair is a state Lobbyist.  Essentially, when Hillary made the statement about the Co-chair being a lobbyist, she was trying to get people to think that Obama violated his promise to not accept money from lobbyists or political action commitees (PACS) because they would somehow influence his decision making.  This is not so.  His co-chair is a state lobbyist. It's very hard to find staff in Washington who are not 'Lobbyists' because of the strict definition.  If this lobbyist in the NH campaign was somehow  also his health care advisor, then Hillary would have an argument because of course it would be a conflict of interest...but he's not.

I hope that answers your question
"Choice is the issue.  I would never vote for any anti choice candidate.  I'm not an Obama fan but I thank him for being pro choice."
April May (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 8:01 PM)
   I tell ya, if we were to be left with our different choices, what chaotic world would we be leaving in?  Some choices are bad and I believe killing unborn babies are one of them.  Now, if the mother's life is on the line, they should have the right to decide.  You can't just generally say it's about choice.  People who kill, steal, and etc., make choices.  They just happen to be making the wrong or illegal choices, which in turn have consequences.

"Osama bin laden
Saddam Hussein
Barack Hussein Obama
Am I alone in feeling like they may have found
another way to get us?"
Worried, Tennessee (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 9:15 PM)
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"Why don't you take the time to educate yourself.....You sound as pathetic as Bill and Hillary Clinton and the rest of the members of her campaign"
Leave Hillary Alone (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 9:31 PM)

I wonder what differentiates you from the person to whom you replied.  In my opinion you committed two particular errors:
1st) That person did not deserve a response.
2nd) You responded with almost the same venom the previous post was addressed.  How do we identify who that person represented.  I trust that Hillary would not dignify such hatred.
Wow he handled that really well.
Kaye (Sent Monday, January 07, 2008 10:42 PM)
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Kaye,
He handled his drugs well too. A good politician is ready with the excuses and platitudes!
Obama certainly seems like a grounded and honorable man, but does anyone truly believe that he has the experioence that is needed to run this country?  Let's give him another term or two in the Senate to develop not only the leadership but experioence that is needed for thos role.  Have we all forgotten what happened the last time we elected an inexperienced, idelaistic and naive Democrat (think 1976, peanut farmer, Iran hostage crisis, gas crisis).  Hillary's not the answer and never will be, but neither is Obama.  At least not right now.
What Barack Obama displayed in the heat of the moment was STATESMANSHIP - isn't that what is required? He used Constitutional principles to calm the situation.

The protestors should be ashamed. This is not the venue for what they did. They should be supporting their candidates to further their views - not trying to short circuit the system with media grabs.  

Obama's behavior is an indicator of where leadership candidates need to go.

and no I'm not a thoughtless partisan drone - I'm still proudly Independent and haven't made my mind up yet.
NOT ONLY DO DEMS KILL BABYS, THEY PRAY FOR SOLDIERS TO DIE ON TV, AT THEIR FUNERALS, PRAY FOR US TO LOSE THE WAR, TRADE FOODSTAMPS FOR DRUGS, LET THEIR KIDS RUN WILD IN GANGS ON THE STREETS, ROBBING AND MURDERING, HARD WORKING PEOPLE, ELECT A PRESIDENT THAT ASSUALTS A YOUNG INTERN WITH A CIGAR,AND MAKES HIM THEIR ROCKSTAR, RUNS HIS WIFE A LES ACCORDING TO HIM, WRITES HER THESIS ON COMMUNISTS, TRASHY WHITE WOMEN THAT MAKE ADULT STORES WEALTHY SELLING TOYS, MOSTLY BLACK, SO IM SURE THEY LIKE OBAMA WHOSE MINISTER IS A KNOWN RADICAL MUSLIM   NO  THANKS YOU SICKOS CAN HAVE YOUR PARTY
anyone ever wonder why people are characterized as 'pro-life' or 'anti-abortion' rather than anti-choice or pro-no choice?  I think those characterizations would be more accurate...
M.Northup....
Check Obama's website pasted below for more information.

http://origin.barackobama.com/factcheck/
anti-abortion, anti-choice, pro-life?
vs
pro-abortion, pro-choice, anti-life?

which word should be use?
Obama, Hilary, Huckabee and Giuliani Supporters!!!! All of these presidetial contenders made it onto The Judicial Watch "Ten Most Corrupt Politicians of 2007" Are these people who you want in office.
Obama Supporters:

You eat up the "hope" parade and Obama's message of change. Here's a few questions for you: what does he stand for? Will he try to socialize America to the extent we already see in Europe? Is he going to fix our inept, inefficient, and inadeuquate public school system which leaves us less competitive with the rest of the world every year? Will he tackle illegal immigration through amnesty or upholding the rule of law? Is he genuine or brought to you by corporate handlers or deep pockets? What is the REAL reason young people gravitate toward him?

If you were HONEST, you would admit you like this guy because he'll end the war. Heaven forbid we actually stand by our commitments. It's interesting that young people (of the pampered me generation) have the time to attend a fluff rally but not the time to defend the right to do so by serving their country. It's a shame you think you can speak for the troops (like my husband) who do serve, when you have never even done anything more selfless than get a chai instead of a latte at the local Starbucks. I wonder what you'd do if you were required to serve your country for 2 years like Germany and Israel currently have their young people do? Would you still fully brush aside the bigger world outside your inward-looking prism?

This country doesn't owe you or any American anything. You do not have a constitutional right to a college education (or a basic one at that), social security or any social entitlement, and health care. These are all "new" things that our founders would have felt superfluous to the general welfare of our country.

We have become a weak, less innovative, less intelligent (both Dems and Republicans), less competitive, less efficient, more selfish, more pampered, and more meaningless country than ever before. What made us great was our ability to come up with new ideas, solve problems, and lead our own lives without Big Brother federal government interference. We are now lost in the past, reaching back to the era of MLK and JFK, for answers, and willing to suspend disbelief in the promise of change because it's wrapped up in phoney cliches and "authenticity."

Obama appeals to the selfish, desperate, vain, arrogant and sheeple among us. Even though I'm a college educated woman, I've met more college-educated people who cannot think for themelves and instead grab onto catchy soundbites, slogans, and promises. We are not Europe, we cannot support a giant nanny, welfare state, nor can we ignore terrorism or heap hate upon our military (like I see from many college-age kids who don't get it) which is the only thing standing between us and possible armageddon.

No, no, just dismiss opposing views as just more messages of fear like you do with Pres. Bush. Keep existing in the vapid, narrow-minded belief of terrorists as our friends, let's give them a hug mentality. Yes, let's build up an even more bloated, social welfare state that makes us more unprepared than we already are. You want to demonize Pres. Bush (who I have problems with) that's all well and good. However, you might also try looking in the mirror at the reason why many of you/us keep voting for do-nothing congressmen and senators.

One more thought for the young voters: even though you might shove the hippie/boomer generation aside to ensure your place in the sun, don't be surprised when 20-30 years from now, the upstart generations that follow you don't try to do the same thing. In your quest to replace the old you might find that it hasn't changed very much. We need actual ideas and plans, not airy, charismatic double talk however appealing and pretty.

Erin I think it was Thomas Jefferson that said "A little rebellion now and then is a good thing". If this is the next generation standing up and saying this is not what we want though Obama then let us celebrate it. Nothing can stand still this includes a nation it either has to move forward or backwards. Our generation had their chance now let us let those that follow us have theirs. Please young people take this country and make it better we had our chance now take yours. And rememeber words do lead to action, positive words more often then not lead to positive actions as negitive words lead to negitive action.
Erin:

This college graduate says -- you're an idiot.  And if you'd been paying better attention you wouldn't have made this comment:  "What made us great was our ability to come up with new ideas, solve problems, and lead our own lives without Big Brother federal government interference."

For the last 7 years, we've had little in the way of new ideas, no problems solved -- how many new ones were created! -- and the Federal government is bigger than it has ever been!  So much for conservative values.  You just don't get it -- the Republicans are out of step with the times.  Combine that with a proven inability to govern and the Democrats are a lock in '08.  You'll get the "sheeple" (35%) who consistently vote Republican plus some of the dumber end of the independent vote when your R candidate gets 41% of the vote in the national election.  The rest of us will get on with the task of fixing the mess of the   GW Bush era.  
Why Mormons Are Not Christian.
and they are a Cult!

First: Mormons do not follow or believe in the historic Jesus Christ of the Bible, but rather in a difference Jesus. This is why most Biblical Christians emphatically insist that Mormons are not Christians. Let me explain.

The god of the Mormons is not the God of the Bible. To the Mormons, Jesus is the firstborn son of an exalted "man" who became the god of this world. The man-god of Mormonism was made the god of this world because of his good works on another planet somewhere out in the universe. He "earned" godhood, and was thus appointed by a counsel of gods in the heavens to his high position as the god of planet Earth. The Mormon god of this world was a man, like all men, who became a god. This is what the celestial marriage and the temple vows are all about. LDS men, by doing their temple work, are striving for exaltation by which they, too, shall one day become gods. Their wives will be the mother goddesses of "their" world and with their husband will produce the population of their world. This is the Mormon doctrine of "eternal progression."

Note the following quote from the Mormon Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, page 123, made by the LDS Apostle Orson Hyde:

"Remember that God, our heavenly Father, was perhaps once a child, a mortal like we ourselves, and rose step by step in the scale of progress, in the school of advancement; has moved forward and overcome, until He has arrived at the point were He is."

Lorenzo Snow, late President of the Mormon church, made this statement in the second verse of his famous poem entitled, "Man's Destiny":

"As Abra'm, Isaac, Jacob, too, babes, then men--to gods they grew. As man now is, our God once was; As now God is, so man may be,-- Which doth unfold man's destiny. . ."

The God of the Bible is not an exalted man. The God of the Bible is omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient. The Bible says He is the only God and there are no other Gods. He had no beginning or end and he is a spirit being and never was a man.

Note the clear teaching of the Bible as to who the real God is:

Numbers 23:19, "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?"

Psalms 102:26-27, "They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed: But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end."

Isaiah 43:10-11, "Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour."

Isaiah 44:6, "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God."

Isaiah 44:8, "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

Isaiah 45:21-22, "Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else."

Jeremiah 23:24, "Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD."

Malachi 3:6, "For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed."

John 1:16-18, "And of his fullness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."

John 4:24, "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

Romans 1:22, "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things."

Colossians 1:15, "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:"

1 Timothy 1:17, "Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen."

1 Timothy 6:16, "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."

Clearly, Mormonism's god is not the God of Christianity who is the God revealed to us in the Bible. The Mormon god is a god formed from the imaginations of Joseph Smith, and in truth is a false, non-existent god or idol.

Second: The Jesus Christ of Mormonism is not the Jesus Christ of the Bible.

The Mormon Jesus is the son of this man-god. The Mormon Jesus is the brother of Lucifer, and according to LDS teaching, he married several of the Marys of the New Testament. He is not, to the LDS church, "God incarnate" as the Bible plainly states. Clearly, the Mormon god and Jesus are not the true


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