THIS MAN DOESN'T REPRSENT THE THINKING OF PEOPLE OF COLOR... I AM TOTALLY OFFENDED...

THIS COMING FROM A MAN WHO HAS NO PROBLEM EXPLOITING WOMEN FOR FINANCIAL AGAIN....

SO CLINTONS, ADD ANOTHER IDIOT REMARK TO LIST OF OTHERS, THAT CONTINUES TO COME FROM YOUR CAMPAIGN.... THIS IS JUST SICKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Listen....does everyone have amnesia?

Hillary Clinton made the statement about MLK, NOT Barack Obama. Why is the spin machine trying to make it seem as if Obama is starting the race rhetoric. Hillary Clinton opened this pandora's box. This is HER problem. Obama didn't even comment initially, and has only said that if Clinton offended some other people, that is unfortunate.

Get Real Johnson. You need to review the facts before you say something like that.
You're irresponsible Johnson and so is Hillary Clinton. You both need to learn to think before you speak.

Go Obama.

Barack Obama 1/13/07

Here's the whole thing:

What we saw this morning is why the American people are tired of Washington politicians and the games they play. But Sen. Clinton made an unfortunate remark, an ill advised remark, about King and Lyndon Johnson. I didn’t make the statement. I haven’t remarked on it, and she I think offended some folks who felt that somehow diminished King’s role in bringing about the Civil Rights Act. She is free to explain that, but the notion that somehow this is our doing is ludicrous.

I have to point out that instead of telling the American people about her positive vision for America, Sen. Clinton spent an hour talking about me and my record in a way that was flat-out wrong. She suggested that I didn’t clearly and unambiguously oppose the war in Iraq when it is absolutely clear and anyone who has followed this knows that I did. I stood up against the war when she was voting for it, at a time when she didn’t read the intelligence reports or give diplomacy a chance. She belittled the most sweeping ethics reform since Watergate despite the fact that she stood on the sidelines during that negotiations on that bill.

I have to say that she started this campaign saying that she wanted to make history and lately she has been spending a lot of time rewriting it. I know that in Washington it is acceptable to say or do anything it takes to get elected, but I really don’t think that is the kind of politics that is good for our party, and I don’t think it is good for our country, and I think that the American people will reject it in this election.

What I want to do is spend talking about how we are going to make sure that people who are losing their jobs get work. How are we going to make sure that our young people are going to afford college? How are we going to make sure that the subprime lending crisis does not lead to an all-out recession? How are we going to create the kind of foreign policy that allows us to bring our troops home and makes us safer and goes after a genuine terrorist threat? Those are the issues that we are going to spend time talking about in this campaign and if Sen. Clinton wants to be distracted by the sorts of political point scoring that was evident today then that is going to be her prerogative.

She has such a Classy group supporting her in her campaign....

Tell me Shelia Jackson, do you now wish you would have waited before you started supporting this woman.... Well I guess you think you know someone

Bob Johnson endorsed H Clinton a while back. BET has improved some of their programming since he left. He is a suckup just like right-winger Shelby Steele.PLEEEAASE

Yeah right, well frankly I'm insulted that Mr. Johnson would think I'm so stupid that I wouldn't know what he was REALLY referring to in his comments.

What else is there to say about Hillary's pathetic campaign???

Count this (formerly) undecided voter for Obama.

Who cares what Bob Johnson has to say about race issues?  This dude perpetuated, abused, and profited from the caricature and stereotype of black men and women on BET.

Worse, Bob Johnson is a billionaire.  He is too rich to continue doing the destructive bidding for the Clintons.  His behavior at Columbia leads one to ask "what's he getting for this?"

BTW, I'm an Edwards supporter.

I have not doubt that the Clintons have been friends to the African American community but I fear that what we are seeing is that they are ultimately more committed to winning and returning to power than anything else.  When their advantage with black voters is slipping away it is interesting to see how their behavior shifts.  I find it distasteful and frankl disgusting.  Bob Johnson who made his billion wasting away his unique opportunity in black media putting trash on the air is even worse.  The deal between the black establishment and the white establishment is under serious threat.  They are both running scared and willing to say anything to keep their power.  Since when did community organizing become an unspeakable term?  What a joke.

Bob Johnson huh. This is the same guy who sold BET to Viacom, took his money, and with it watched Bet's programming and reflection of black youth get even worse and go further down the drain. As a African- American I don't have a problem with other African- Americans supporting Clinton, in fact it's nice to know that people aren't voting on race or gender. But I have to say that I'm getting damn tired of older African-Americans supporting Clinton and being the first ones to jump on a live wire to defend them. What this is really about is some of these guys ran to support the Clintons during the summer when she looked liked the nominee and now that things look a little shaky, they are now trying to cover their tales to stay relevent because if Obama wins, the Bob Johnsons, Andrew Youngs, John Lewis, and Al Sharptons(Who thinks he's slick by staying neutral on an endorsement) will be deamed "hasbeens" by the younger black community.  Hillary is a grown woman and should be able to defend herself, I mean she is running for President. Isn't she?

I think the Clintons may have just done it now!!! There's no mistaking those ugly comments!!

The Clintons and the Clinton campaign are SCUM.  

First Read, why are you not posting people's thoughts? I wrote in on the Meet the Press thread (Clinton Justifies War Vote...) around 1pm. It was never posted. I wrote in again around 2:30pm - again, never posted. I commented that this is a pattern. I have personally seen this happen on four different occasions in the past week where if there are many ANTI-HILLARY posts on a particular thread, you suddenly STOP POSTING people's comments for hours at a time!! Very, very obvious, and frankly, disturbing. Today you continued to show posts on the McCain thread during the same time that you effectively shut down the Meet the Press thread. I attempted to post twice between 1pm and 2:30pm on that thread - and judging by the number of posts which had appeared during the morning in rapid succession, I doubt if I was the only person trying to post during that window. You have LOST ALL CREDIBILITY with me. It is painfully obvious that the editor of First Read, Chuck Todd, is biased in Hillary's favor. Just listen to him anytime on MSNBC and you can pick it up within minutes. I had hoped he would not carry that pro-Hillary bias onto this public forum. I was wrong. Very unprofessional.

Go back, First Read, and print the posts from earlier today that were sent in to the thread about Meet the Press entitled "Clinton Justifies War Vote..." after 11:50am. Don't use creative editing. This is a public forum. Everyone should feel that if they take the time to post here that they will not be censored.

Robert Johnson has got to be joking if he expects people to believe that phrasing was intended to suggest Obama's community organizing.  

This is another example of the Clinton campaign using surrogates to do their dirty work and then act like it is not a big deal.  It seems like Hillary found her voice in NH, but stills happy to use others' in SC, NV  and elsewhere.

So much for the claims that the media is lynching Hillary!
How much money does Bobbie have invested in the Hillary machine?
I am sure that it is much more than any of the major networks.

This is the brilliant (though deplorable) Clinton strategy:
First, you put out stuff though surrogates that is a little insensitive, but nothing that is not plausibly deniable nor easily fixed with an apology. Examples: shaheen drug dealer, penn cocaine, kerrey madrassa, cuomo shuck and jive, anoymous to guardian "hip black friend, etc" These are poison pills to be introduced into the media echo chamber. This Bob johnson comment is just the latest exxample.
After the poison pill is out there for about a news cycle or so, extend it by making a news cycle about the apology or backtracking or justification.



Make sure you come up with something new every week or two to keep the conversation alive.
The plan is never to be overtly racist, never to have a Keith Richards/Kramer moment, of course. The way to play the race card without looking like playing the race card is to knock off Obama by a "death by a thousand (racial) cuts" as opposed to any full-frontal racial attacks.
Now, the Obama people know that any polarizing discussion of race hurts them, so for the most part they just shut up abaout it, be magnanimous, and try to rise above. And for most the campaign through shaheen and kerrey they turn the other cheek and appeal to our better instincts as Hillary appeals to our bad instincts.
Obama has done that. He has remarkably made this campaign as little about race as possible. So much so that people had forgetten about the fact that he is Black. But when the clintons started falling behind, they had to find ways to remind folks "He's one of those people."
Now while Obama is going to try hard to stay above the fray, it is impossible to expect that every media outlet and black person in the country is not going to eventually get upset with the "death by a thousand cuts" race baiting.
So here is the next brilliant manuver on the part of the Clintons campaign. Once these non-Obama campaign people start complaining a little, hang their grievances around Obama's neck and say or imply that Obama is playing racial politics himself. Central to this is to make a straw man argument with the complicit help of media hacks. Basically ignore the really bad stuff (drug dealer, secular madrassa, hip black friend, etc) and focus on the least offensive (fairy tale) and then knock down the straw man that the Clintons are racists themselves while ignoring the pattern or subtle, death by a thousand cuts, code worded, rovian appeals to racism in the electorate. The media is structuring this story to play into the "blacks getting upset over nothing" mentality. Meida types are going to erect the straw man, knock it down and then accuse Obaam of race baiting when he is the vicitm of it and say that he is doing this to win in SC. This is brilliant "blame the victim" jujuitsu, folks and you saw HIllary doing this very thing today in the NYtimes, in the AP stroy, and on Meet the Press
And here is the Associated Press version of tHIllary's jujitsu: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Clinton-Obama.html
Noticed that they even got the Assocated press to write a story being sent to low-infomtion, casual voters in local papers thoughout the country putting Al Sharpton and Barack Obama in the same sentence.
Mission accomplished, they must be saying over at Clinton headquarters. After injecting race into the discussion, the Clinton people have just conned the NY Times and Associated Press and used Meet the Press to spread the lie that the LBJ/MLK concerns originated not in the broader black community but rather was some distortion coming from the Obama campaign, something that is demonstrably false.
They're cheering over at Clinton headquarters because the media is dutifully playing into the "Black folks yet again getting riled up over nothing and making whites feel guilty" narrative and muddying the waters by hanging this around the Obama campaigns' neck.
Hillary says "I think" this all came from the Obama campaign.
Please, she knows well that people like Clyborn and Brazille came to opinions on their own on this and that Burton, Axelod, Ploufe, etc did not manufacture their opinions
The goal of the Clinton campaign is simple and brilliant: make the Obama campaign personally responsible for every thing ever said by any Black person in America (while claiming that they are not responsible for the words of their national co-chair/shaheen, pollster/chief strategist/penn, key endorsers Kerrey and Cuomo, or the candidate's husband himself.
This is yet another way the Clintons are brillantly turning Obama, somebody who has gone out of his way to be a post-racial conciliator , as "the aggrieved black candidate." By morphing him into Jesse Jackson in the eyes of voters, just as republicans morphed Max Cleland into the images of Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein in the 2002 midterms, the Clintons are simultaeously playing "death by a thousand cuts" racial politics while tarring Obama as the racially divisive figure.
If this were a crime drama, the story line would be the innocent being framed by the real perpetrators. Oops, I just gave the Clintons their next line of attack, to compare Obama with OJ.
God, the Clintons are really good at manipulating the media. I wonder if Karl Rove is giving them the advice he hinted to in the wall street journal this week? 8 years of HIllary may be the best route to a 2016 Jeb Bush restoration and Karl Rove likely has a vested interest in the propogation of bi-dynastic wedge politics.
And then in the so called "Damage control" Bill Clinton goes on Al Sharpton's radio show. Why did bill Clinton go on Al Sharpton's radio show? It was a tactically brillinat manuver to get Barack Obama and Al Sharption in the same news story and thus subtly linked in the minds of your average, relatively unsophisticated voter who does not take the time to hear Obama's full inclusive speeches, but has just now read an AP article in their local paper mentioning both Sharpton and Obama and she or she is thinking to himself, "When I get behind that curtain, there is no way that I am voting for THAT guy."
Now the Clintons are not dumb, they knew there would be blowback from the black community, but they know that blowback will help them get solidarity with voters they needs and Obama had been making inroads with in Iowa: lower class white democrats. Furthermore, as this contest moves towards Nevada and Feb 5th, the Clintons know that by ginning up a little racial crucible, they are going to help turn out hispanic voters. Look at what one of Clinton's own pollsters said in buried in the last two paragraphs of Ryan Lizza's latest article:
"On the morning after Clinton's victory, I talked to Sergio Bendixen, one of her pollsters, who specializes in the Hispanic vote. In all honesty, the Hispanic vote is extremely important to the Clinton campaign, and the polls have shown and today is not a great day to cite polls that even though she was slipping with women in Iowa and blacks in South Carolina, she was not slipping with Hispanics, he said. The fire wall doesn't apply now, because she is in good shape, but before last night the Hispanic vote was going to be the most important part of her fire wall on February 5th. The implications of that strategy are not necessarily uplifting.
When I asked Bendixen about the source of Clinton's strength in the Hispanic community, he mentioned her support for health care, and Hispanic voters affinity for the Clinton era. It's one group where going back to the past really works, he said. All you need to say in focus groups is Let?s go back to the nineties. But he was also frank about the fact that the Clintons, long beloved in the black community, are now dependent on a less edifying political dynamic: The Hispanic voter and I want to say this very carefully has not shown a lot of willingness or affinity to support black candidates."
So the clinton campaign has admitted on the record that part of their electoral strength going forward is hispanic racism against blacks. The clinton people know the demographic changes in this country are favoring Hispanics and so its ok if Blacks are thrown uder the bus at this stage of their political career.
Just as Bill Clinton was proclaimed the "First Black Preisdent" Hillary "chips and guacamole" Clinton is now going to try to be crowned the "First Hispanic president." Look there is a pattern of reasonably high level surrogaes doing this dirty work, and not just against Obama. Earlier in the year, both Rangel and Vilsack came out to trash Guilliani on his marriages and infidelity right around the time the christian evalngelicans were gathering for some meeting. Of course, the clinton campaign denies that they had anything to do with that either.
How many times does this have to happen for people to realize that this is a pattern, not an isolated accident?
Now that people are starting to get wise to her tactics, she is going to play her "A" game: have black supporters like Ben Johnson put out the poison pills to enhance the plausibly deniable aspect by having the person saying them be black and not white.
If people really believe that these are all "Accidents" or simple "misunderstandings" then you have to accept the proposition that the clinton campaign is not in any control of its high level surrogates. Do we really think this lack of discipline will serve her well in the general or in the white house?
So take your choice, either Hillary is a nixonian race baiter or she is not in control of her own campaign.
Which makes people think she would be the best leader of the free world?

OMG!!

UNFORTUNATE COMMENTS, LUDICROUSITY

POLITICS OF DIVISION, TOTO, AND THE WIZARD OF OZ.

Here we go folks, somebody, has pulled back the curtain on the "Wizard of Oz."

The spin coming out of New Hampshire, was "people behind the curtain" Won't vote for a black man, it didn't get a lot of traction, but, black political pundits, did bring it up. Yup, those little old white ladies, are racists, and of course white pundits not wanting to be out done or perceived, as being naive, slow, unperceptive and behind the curve, entertained the idea too. Oh yeah, "The Jim Crow Car" was back on "tract," and had rolled through New Hampshire.  How else could they all be wrong...  Well lets see if "they" get this right...

Obama and camp ARE PLAYING THE RACE CARD, and other black political pundits and high ranking politicians, are doing the same.  Anything to win.  For those who think, there is honor and integrity and this "political gambit" is all about bringing people together...  Why did Obama not speak up, and say, lets not let this become an issue of "color," but on the content of "character."  He hasn't done that, he "uses" the words "unfortunate comments" this language is used purposely to "fan the flames" of racism and try to reap political benefit, USING MARTIN LUTHER KING to divide not unite.  

I have heard the "fairy tale" statements Bill Clinton was taking about as has anyone else who is actually interested in what was "really said."  It was in reference to Obama's record on the Iraq War, (only.) These black politicos and pundits and whites who are pro Obama, are outright *lying* to gain a political advantage, using "race" as a political prop.
It's very interesting that those who "cry" the loudest about "race" and "baiting" are the very ones who are using it now...  My, oh my, isn't this novel?  The Clinton's, just like the little old ladies of New Hampshire, are racists.  Look I don't have a problem with calling a "spade a spade" or "heart a heart" but anyone saying or telling you that these "accusations" are the politics of unity is outright lying.  This is very divisive stuff, and it is not good for the political process and it is not good for the country.

I don't buy, or never have bought this bringing people together (BS) line for a minute.  It's all about winning and what ever it takes to do so... But this race baiting is the ULTIMATE DIVIDER, and those "whites" who can't see this are just plain, stupid.  

"Blacks," already know exactly what it is, and what the Obama camp is doing... Blacks in general, are much more politically sophisticated than whites.  Blacks are not fooled by eloquent words, pretty bells and whistles, they are very savvy at knowing what's really being said and what's not.  I don't believe for a microsecond, that Obama, black politicians and black political pundits, did not understand what Bill Clinton was saying.  This intangible, innuendo, nuance, tacitly implied, my interpretation of, (BS) is pure politics.  And it is the absolute pinnacle of the politics of division.

I just finished watching part of Obamas speech at a church in Las Vegas which was mostly a colored audience. His first sentence referred to MLK.
Who is bringing up the race issue.
Give blame where it is due. Mr Obama is also a racist to use MLK to further his own interest.
Please, No More.
I witnessed all the strife of the 60's and do not want this issue resurrected to further anyone's political campaing.

So when is Barack Obama going to apologize for what Donnie McClurkin said about gays when introducing him at an event?  What about what Chris Rock said about electing "that white lady" at an Obama event?  Is Obama going to apologize for everything his supporters say about Hillary??  Until then Hillary should not have to keep apologizing for what her supporters say about Obama

Marbw you are good in lying and being a hypocrite like Obama. You are trying to protect Obama's flip flop and lack of conviction of sticking to one position on Iraq.

But what more can we expect from hypocrites who consider themselves holier than thou? (But keep playing the same Washington games with lobbyist, oil companies and media?)

Obama has successfully divided Democrats and he calls himself uniter. LOL.

God help the fairy tale blind double standard followers and hypocrites!

Obama tells me change is new, I agree (not knowing every election Presidential politicians talk about change and nothing changes).

Obama tells me to hope so i start hoping.

Obama tells me to change, so I change my parents since they are past and status quo.

My friends (fellow Obama supporters) tell me to repeat Hillary hate posts 100 times a day, so I do it. It's a change from my other work.

Obama tells me to convince my other immature youth friends to cheer for change, I do it.

Obama tells me to ignore experience, so I ignore my parents experience of knowing the world as again, they are past and status quo.

I ignore every old person who was served nationally as they are status quo. Your national service doesnt count in the new world of hatred filled starry eyed fairy tale following youths like me.

If any harbored second doubts about the tactics of the Clinton campaign the following developments from the last few weeks have been the following:

Hillary's volunteers were passing emails that he is a Muslim intent on destroying the US from within.

Bill Shaheen (Clinton NH campaign co-chair)implied Obama may have dealt drugs

Bill Clinton calls the campaign of senator Obama and his treatment from the press "a fairy tale"

The Clinton campaign regularly refers to Obama as "the kid"

Hillary: MLK Jr gave fought for civil rights but it took a president to pass them into law

and today Sunday

Bob Johnson (BET channel founder) in the presence of Hillary said:

“To me, as an African-American, I am frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues since Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood –­ and I won’t say what he was doing, but he said it in the book –­ when they have been involved.”

Moments later, he added: “That kind of campaign behavior does not resonate with me, for a guy who says, ‘I want to be a reasonable, likable, Sidney Poitier ‘Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner.’ And I’m thinking, I’m thinking to myself, this ain’t a movie, Sidney. This is real life.”

I am offended that this election has turned into a mainstream RACE vs. GENDER, White vs. Black contest, this is so unfortunate.  I watched the Meet the Press interview and it was Meet the Obama Basher. If Clinton was the nominee I was going to support her. However, it is clear that fate has brought up to a moment whereby Clinton's toughest opponent in her "road to coronation" happened to be an African American and the only way to bring him down as an opponent was to go Racial.  Clinton has been completely un-presidential and demeaning to the African American community solely because she sees Obama as a threat.  However, he can't respond to her because if he does, he will get swift boated as abandoning Hope, he also can't get tough with her because she'll cry and he will get swift boated for attacking a woman.  I'm a registered Democrat, but if Clinton is the nominee and allows her supporters to incite Race when Obama has not made it a central part of his campagin, I am voting for McCain or Huckabee.

If Andy Samberg is sitting around bored he could always make a new video short called "Barack in a Box" Wouldn't take anything more expensive than a couple of Clinton Halloween mask. Everyone sees what they're doing and what they're trying to make him do. So ... "Barack in a Box"

How is saying that clinton's comments are unfortunate playing the race card?... don't blame Obama for other peoples offence to what Hillary said. I'm not surprised people are offended by those comments, regardless of what Bill and then Hillary meant, they offended people.. Apologise and move on, don't blame the guy you were attacking!

Me thinks someone is just too sensitive, if he cannot hear people referring to his voting record or his past use of drug without crying fault or jumping ever the roof, what will happen during general election when the republican 527 group will have their propangada in full force????

The Clintons make me sick! Their strategy of "put it out there and repudiate it later" will not work in this election.

These kind of statements are indications of how divisive Mrs Clinton is and how she would govern. IT'S JUST DISGUSTING!!!!

I just finished watching part of Obamas speech at a church in Las Vegas which was mostly a colored audience. His first sentence referred to MLK.
Who is bringing up the race issue.
Give blame where it is due. Mr Obama is also a racist to use MLK to further his own interest.
Please, No More.
I witnessed all the strife of the 60's and do not want this issue resurrected to further anyone's political campaing.
Tired of the race issue Scottsville KY (Sent Sunday, January 13,
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DID you just say COLOR AUDIENCE...WOW

Just to let you know MLK B-Day this week....Holiday NEXT WEEK.....

To: Youth Voter, USA (Sent Sunday, January 13, 2008 6:10 PM)

Finish your education, I do not debate amateurs. Typical nonsensical ramblings. Your education on the facts begins below:
Barack Obama 2002 Iraq interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXzmXy226po

The Judgment to Lead 10/12/07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwgjYMw310U

Barack Obama (HRC gave GWB blank check)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ-rdZ2TcII&NR=1

Hillary Clinton on Iraq
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyC7loMop58&feature=related

John Edwards in 2002 on Iraq
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4x_KnWEDjs

Bill Clinton 2003 (in 2007 He says something different)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWm8riukyeM

KNOW THE FACTS
http://factcheck.barackobama.com/

Have a nice day.

Obama opposed the war and Clinton didn't. Simple as that. Why did he vote to fund the war? Because he is not the President, and once that decision was made, he was supporting the TROOPS by giving them EVERYTHING they needed to hopefully WIN QUICKLY and COME HOME! What in the world is difficult to understand about that?

Now that it is clear that Iraq is no closer to a polical solution than it was when the war was started, he has the good JUDGEMENT to know that it is time to bring our troops home. And no amount of spin by Senator Clinton about her BAD DECISION that she has NEVER APOLOGIZED FOR is gonna change it!

P.S. Bob Johnson is a joke.

"Youth Voter," you are an outright liar who dwells in the gutter right next to your idol Sen. Clinton.   Obama has been against the Iraq war from the start.  In 2004, while supporting Kerry, he said that perhaps his vote would have been different if he had seen the NIE... which CLINTON NEVER READ, but that the case had never been made to him.  And he refused to cut funding to the troops over there. Clinton is lying again just like she lied about his state senate record.  It is she who is dividing the democrats with her filthy Rovian tactics.

I love how there is this very thorough, insightful comment about how brilliantly the Clintons are, in fact, playing the real "race card," namely white entitlement, and right below it you have a few boneheaded kneejerk reactions about how Obama is really the one playing the imaginary "race card," because he mentioned King in a speech. Um, yeah, how dare he mention King just after Hilarly Clinton finished bashing him. Wow. Point proven, obviously. I do feel bad for Obama that he has to just sit and take this stuff from both the Clintons and from entitled white voters and commentators, because he really should not have to, in a just world.

Marbw you are good in lying and being a hypocrite like Obama. You are trying to protect Obama's flip flop and lack of conviction of sticking to one position on Iraq.

But what more can we expect from hypocrites who consider themselves holier than thou? (But keep playing the same Washington games with lobbyist, oil companies and media?)

Obama has successfully divided Democrats and he calls himself uniter. LOL.

God help the fairy tale blind double standard followers and hypocrites!
Youth Voter, USA (Sent Sunday, January 13, 2008 6:10 PM)
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And Youth Voter you are roo young and ignorant to believe that Senator Obama has brought division into the Democratic Party when in fact it's been The Clinton....The Clinton in the 90's and the Clintons of today....But I guess your to young to know this.....

So when is Barack Obama going to apologize for what Donnie McClurkin said about gays when introducing him at an event?  What about what Chris Rock said about electing "that white lady" at an Obama event?  Is Obama going to apologize for everything his supporters say about Hillary??  Until then Hillary should not have to keep apologizing for what her supporters say about Obama
Eric, NY, NY (Sent Sunday, January 13, 2008 6:09 PM
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Your strenching it

You have a white woman running for president against a black man in the same party (and vice versa) where you will need black votes to win and you dare let come out of your mouth that the Obama's (black man) campaign has made this into a racial issue. You might as well say just come out and say that he's "pulling the race card". I don't care what Hillary Clinton says, her assertion that the Obama campaign was behind this shows how horribly desparate she wants to be President. Versus blaming the Obama campaign for her misstep, all she had to do was clarify her comments in a big forum and it would have been over with but instead she kept digging a deeper hole for herself. This man throughout most of this campaign hasn't played the race card once and to insist that because you made a bad choice in words that he and his campaign is somehow responsible is vicious and down right wrong. Hillary -you may have won some white votes with this one but you just lost this one black vote in S.C.

It appears to me that the Clintons are dragging race into the campaign to try and drive whites away from Obama.  I hope Obama starts getting more agressive in his responses.  Otherwise, I think she'll walk all over him to the nomination.

Bob Johnson was out of line, and like everything else I hope the mainstream media picks up on it and and ride it to you lose.. See Mrs. Clinton, you play dirty real dirty. That why you need to lose.

The fact of the matter is, I don't like his comments about the connection between "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" and Obama.  The movie is about a black man, in a white house with white people.  So a black man doesn't belong in the White House?

I don't even think she should have accepted this endorsement.  Johnson's rise to fame and money was by exploiting women, half naked, mostly black women, and using them as a cash cow.  I don't understand how HRC could shake his hand.

And the fact that HRC listened to his speech and couldn't take the time in her own speech that followed to correct the statement there proves that she actually supported every little word of the comment.  

Bob Johnson, by a very large margin, is the most destructive force leveled against black America. His consistent exploitation of the worst stereotypes, the objectification of Woman (not only of color mind you, plenty of white women are in those videos. Black America's first Black Billionaire, got to be a billionaire off of the lowest common denominator that we as black Americans have to offer. Furthermore he has done NOTHING to reverse the damage he has wrought.

Wake up! Hillary is a hawk. She fully supports war in Iran... her voting record shows this.. but she's running on the change issue... how is it that 70 percent of America is against the war, but both parties front runners are pro war candidates..?

Just more Black on Black crime.

So his excuse is that he is totally dissing Barack's years working for the underpriviledged? This guy has stepped in it. What an a-s-s. I was thinking I would vote for HIllary on SuperTues if Barack somehow is not viable, now I will not even consider it. I hate Rovian tactics and this is reminescent of the McCain Bush 2000 race. Not nice Hillary - unnecessary.

As a Democrat who's voted for the Dem candidate in the last 4 presidential elections, I'm about at the point where I've become unable to vote for Hillary.  Her tactics are positively repugnant.  If the election were right now, I'd vote for McCain over Hillary.

Does she appreciate the effect that her scorched-Earth campaign is having on the electorate?  Does she even care?  It seems as though, as long as she wins, anything goes.  

I can't believe that it's come to this.  I've looked forward to a Democratic presidency since before Bush was inaugurated but if the election was today and Hillary was the candidate, I wouldn't vote for her.

Listen to the youth fellow Americans. I think I touched a nerve with some fairy tale Obama supporters. May be I am right that Obama flip flopped on Iraq.

A true leader shows conviction about his judgement and sticks to it. But same old wishy washy Washington politicians change their tune like Obama did. He made a judgement (some people call it fluke one time opinion) about Iraq war in 2002.

Then he removed that judgement from his website completely when the war was going well ini 2003.

Then in 2004, he said something for the war by sticking to Kerry. He even sided with Bush once in 2004.

Then he voted for no time tables in 2005 and 2006. In this case, I can agree Obama was thinking for our troops like Clinton and other politicians.

Then in 2007, he changes against war again for election time.

A true leader always knows wrong is wrong and sticks to his or her conviction. But Obama flip flops.

And fairy tale continues!

PS: Look at how some Obama supporters blasted me just because I am a young voter. Talk about respect. You are winning because of us young voters. But some youths are knowledge and moral. Not hypocrites like you.

Hillary Clinton will never decry the remarks made by Bob Johnson because she more than likely approved of his comments but knew if she had bought this issue up she would definitely be percieved as racist. So she decided to let a Black Man tear another Black man down. Attack Obama on the issues not on past youthful indiscretions. People backed Bill Clinton when he faced tough questions and public scrutiny on hispast infidelities, especially Monica Lewinsky and they forgave him so why does Obama's drug experimentation as a young man become such an issue that he is to percieved as not being worthy enough to be President. Take a look a President George Bush. He is reformed alcoholic and America did not held this against him so why do people like Johnson want to make an issue of Obama's past? We all have done somethings in our past that we are not necessarily proud of as none of us are perfect people. Give it a rest and whether you like Obama or not judge him on the issues not his past or his color.
Too much to ask for???

Marbw,  PLB , etc - If you all are Obama surrogates, then I am scared.

If this is how Obama surrogates disrespect a young voter just because I disagree and bring a different perspective, then God Bless America from hypocrites like you.

You are winning just by fooling youths where in reality you dont respect them at all. Shame on such Obama surrogates indulge in character assasination of young voters based on knowledge.

Where Obama's Journey Began

CHICAGO, April 27, 2007
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(CBS) When Barack Obama arrived on Chicago's South Side, he was on a mission to help. The fires of the once-vibrant steel industry had already died, there were 326,000 people unemployed, and nearly 70 percent of public school children were living below the poverty line.

"It was a lot of poverty there, but a lot of pride," says Loretta Augustine, a community activist.

Chicago was in the midst of a political firestorm. Harold Washington, the city's first black mayor, had taken the reins and racial tensions were running high, CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric reports.

It was at a church, in 1984, where Obama came to work as a community organizer for a faith-based group called the Developing Communities Project. He worked in Altgeld Gardens, a racially segregated housing project on Chicago's far South Side. In a city where political power means everything, the people of Altgeld were invisible.

"To a great extent, we were powerless," Augustine says.

Obama's challenge was to empower the impoverished residents of Altgeld Gardens and turn them into political players. But older members of the group were skeptical of the 23-year-old Columbia University graduate.

"How was this kid gonna be any help to them?" says Gerry Kellman, who hired Obama.

But over time, Obama earned their trust and figured out how to make those voices heard.

"What Barack had to do was instill confidence in those folks," Kellman says.

Then there was a crucial meeting: A representative from the mayor's office tried to take over — and suddenly the South Side activist rose up.

"From the back of the room came Barack's voice, and he says, 'We want to hear from Loretta. Let Loretta talk,'" Augustine recalls. "And in that instant, he changed the meeting and focused right back on our agenda."

Today, still surrounded by 53 toxic waste dumps, Altgeld Gardens is often called "the toxic donut." In 1967, Augustine's 6-year-old daughter died of leukemia — which she's convinced was caused by toxic waste. Yet no one was listening to the people in the neighborhood.

"We found out there was a secret meeting in South Chicago on this issue and we had been excluded," she says.

Obama and 300 community members marched to that secret meeting.

"You cannot leave the community out of the process. It was so powerful," Augustine says.

Most people stayed in that job for four months. Obama continued to fight for four years, cutting his teeth on community activism. — the first measure of his leadership skills that are now being tested on a much larger stage.

"Barack came here very idealistic, and he left much more practical," Kellman says.

"He left, but he didn't leave us," adds Augustine. "We claim him."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/27/eveningnews/main2737505.shtml


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22bcGFeq71U

If nothing else, Senator Obama's run for the presidency has forced many phony "black leaders" to show their true colors - not a pretty sight.

Stupid Democrats.  If you want Independent voters and cross over Republicans, you better select the most qualified and that ain't Obama.
The election is yours to lose this time and you have already lost it.  Count on another four years of a Republican administration.

Many analysts say that Bill Clinton's criticism of Sister Souljah 16 years ago was key into getting Bill into the White House.  The Clinton team figured "if it worked once it can work again."   This time however its backfiring, and the more they try to spin their way out they dig themselves deeper in the hole they've dug.  The choice of Bob Johnson to diss Obama shows how much the Clinton machine is out of touch with Black America.  Johnson is one of the most unpopular African Americans for his "I don't care about Black people or Black culture if it doesn't line my pockets" attitude toward running, and then selling BET.  Clinton might as well had Condoleezza or Ward Connerly endorse her, both are about as popular with average Black people as Bob "sell out" Johnson.  It's also amazing that the Clintons are attempting to blame Obama for fueling the controversy when they made the statements and it has been Obama supporters, not the campaign, who have criticized the Clinton's remarks.

Read 'THE AUDACITY OF HOPE' to get a feeling for what she is doing now. This is the 'textbook' throwback campaign style of the 90's. She opened her mouth and put her foot in.

Someone mentioned these tactics before:

ANDERA - Admit nothing, deny everything, redirect accusations.
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Step 1: Slander your opponent
Step 2: Wait and see if you're called on the slander
Step 3: If called on the slander, decide whether you've offended a group you need to win the election
Step 4: If the answer to step 3 is "yes, we need that group," deny Step 1 ever happened.
Step 5: Hope nobody realizes what you just did
Step 6: If someone does realize what you did, see step 1 (slander them)


ps...It is not only AA community that were offended by HRC's comments. If LBJ was alive, he would be, too.

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