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10 days that led to a controversy over race

Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:32 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC’s Domenico Montanaro
For 10 days, Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have gotten into a back-and-forth that has touched off a controversy over race, potentially exposed a wound in the Democratic Party between black voters and women and wound up with another Clinton surrogate bringing up Obama's teen drug use.
 
How did we get here?
 
It all started when John Edwards leapt to Barack Obama's defense and called Hillary Clinton the "status quo" at the Jan. 5 debate before the New Hampshire debate.
 
"We have a fundamental difference about the way you bring about change," Edwards said of himself and Obama after Clinton questioned Obama's record, including voting for the Patriot Act. "But both of us are powerful voices for change. And if I might add, we finished first and second in the Iowa caucus, I think in part as a result of that. Now, what I would say this: Any time you speak out powerfully for change, the forces of status quo attack."
 
Clinton responded by touting the changes she said she's made over 35 years and then saying, "And we don't need to be raising the false hopes of our country about what can be delivered."
 
All of this ended in a humorous moment in the debate, when Gov. Bill Richardson (D-N.M.) summed it up, "Well, I've been in hostage negotiations that are a lot more civil than this."
 
That may have ended the line of conversation, but it didn't end the debate. For the next several days, the candidates took their barbs on the road.
 
Obama, for one, made Hillary's "false hopes" a talking point in at least two speeches.
 
"You know, I've been teased, even derided lately, for talking hope," Obama said the following day. "Last night in the debate, one of my opponents said that you know, 'You need to stop offering the American [people] false hopes about what can get done. You need a reality check.' You remember that? Now think, think about that as a concept. Think about that -- not not -- 'imagine that we're going to the moon and we'll figure out a way to do it. Understand we can't do that. We can't rebuild Japan and Germany after we defeated them in war -- that would make no sense. Why would we do that?"
 
Then this on Monday, Jan. 7.
 
"Imagine that -- false hopes. Imagine John F. Kennedy looking up at the moon, and saying, 'Darn, that's far,'" he said to laughter and applause. " 'We can't do that. Reality check. Can't be done. Imagine -- imagine Dr. King standing on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, looking out at those crowds -- a quarter million people around the reflecting pool -- and saying, 'Ya'll go home.' The dream has died. It can't be done. It's too hard.' Lost hopes? You know, this is what this campaign is all about."
 
JFK and men on the moon, MLK and the Lincoln Memorial. That prompted Clinton to say something that landed her and Obama, frankly, into the bubbling cauldron of race and politics, a messy and dangerous place both candidates have tried hard to avoid.
 
“I would point to the fact that Dr. King’s dreams were realized when President Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964,” Clinton said in an interview with Fox News. “When he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the president before had not even tried. But it took a president to get it done.”
 
Later that night, she made it part of her stump and began to attack Obama essentially as no Dr. King or John F. Kennedy.
 
“You know, today Senator Obama used President John F. Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. to criticize me,” Clinton said. “And, basically compared himself to two of our greatest heroes, saying well, they gave great speeches.

“President Kennedy was in the Congress for 14 years. He was a war hero. He was a man of great accomplishments and readiness to be president. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. led a movement. He was gassed. He was beaten. He was jailed. And he gave a speech that was one of the most beautifully, profoundly important speeches ever delivered in America, the ‘I Have a Dream’ speech.
 
“And then he worked with President Johnson to get the civil rights laws passed, because the dream couldn’t be realized until it was finally, it was legally permissible for people of all colors and backgrounds and races and ethnicities to be accepted as citizens.”
 
The next day, Tuesday, Jan. 8, Obama was asked about Clinton saying he was not comparable to Kennedy and King. He smiled confidently and said, “You know, I didn’t claim to be.”
 
That day, a Clinton supporter, in introducing her invoked Kennedy’s assassination.
 
"If you look back, some people have been comparing one of the other candidates to JFK, and he was a wonderful leader," said Francine Torge, a retired teacher from Durham, N.H. "He gave us a lot of hope. But he was assassinated, and Lyndon Baines Johnson actually did all of his work and got both the Republicans and Democrats to pass those measures."
 
That day, Clinton scored a victory in the New Hampshire primary, which the whole political world, including the campaigns, got wrong before a vote was cast. Obama, the inevitable, was uprooted, partly because of a strong turnout of women for Clinton.
 
After the victory, politicos searched for more reasons. Race was called into question as one of the possibilities. After all, there had been a history of African-American candidates with large leads a week before an election, who lost, in part, because of anonymity. White voters, who said they were undecided, for example, in a Field poll in 1982 in the California gubernatorial election between George Deukmejian, who was white, and Tom Bradley, who was black, appear to have known all along who they were voting for: the white candidate. But they didn’t want to tell a pollster that.

Meanwhile, a Jan. 7 Bill Clinton remark, calling Obama’s record on his stance on the Iraq war a “fairy tale” got caught up in the mix. "This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen,” Clinton said after lambasting what he said was a flip by Obama on the Iraq war from his vaunted 2002 speech to a more ambiguous stance at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
 
But Clinton’s remark was interpreted by some prominent African Americans to be a shot at the possibility of Obama’s campaign.
 
“To call that dream a fairy tale, which Bill Clinton seemed to be doing, could very well be insulting to some of us," said Rep. Jim Clyburn, the senior most African-American member of Congress, who had vowed to remain neutral in the Democratic primary process.
 
Former Bill Clinton aide Donna Brazile added, “As an African American, I find his words and his tone to be very depressing.”
 
NBC’s Tim Russert produced both quotes for Hillary Clinton on Meet the Press. Clinton vigorously defended her husband’s comment, saying it had been taken out of context.
 
On her remarks on King, Clinton unabashedly accused the Obama campaign of injecting race into the process, saying it was “deliberately distorting” her remarks clandestinely.
 
"This is, you know, an unfortunate story line that the Obama campaign has pushed very successfully,” Clinton told Russert. “They've been putting out talking points, they've been making this, they've been telling people in a very selective way what the facts are, and I'm glad to have the opportunity to set the facts straight."
 
As the Obama campaign recoiled, later in the day, the flames were stoked even higher. Clinton supporter Bob Johnson, founder of BET and owner of the Charlotte Bobcats, made a thinly veiled reference to Obama’s teen drug use and went further. He accused Obama of acting like “Sidney Poitier,” insinuating an accusation that many was settled, that Obama isn’t black enough.
 
“As an African American,” Johnson began, “I am frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues, when Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood that I won't say what he was doing but he said it in his book-- when they have been involved, to say that these two people would denigrate the accomplishment of civil rights marchers, men and women who were hosed, beaten and bled, and some died.
 
“To say and to expect us now all of a sudden to say we are attacking a black man. That kind of campaign behavior does not resonate with me or a guy that says I want to be a reasonable, likeable Sidney Poitier 'Guess Who's Coming to Dinner.' And I'm thinking to myself, this ain't a movie, Sidney."
 
Yesterday, Clinton, speaking in New York City at a labor event for better working conditions for private security officers, honored Dr. King’s legacy -- on the eve of his birthday -- and said, "Who would have thought we would ever see the day that an African-American and a woman would be running for president of the United States of America?"
 
And last night, sensing that this back-and-forth had gotten out of hand, Obama and Clinton called for a truce. Obama met with reporters in Nevada and said he didn’t want the campaigns “to degenerate into so much tit-for-tat, back-and-forth that we lose sight of why all of us are doing this.”

Clinton then followed with a statement, in which she said much of what’s been said “does not reflect what is in our hearts.” She added that she and Obama are “on the same side” when it comes to civil rights and called for seeking “common ground.” She called the party and nation “bigger than this” and lauded the Democratic Party’s role in being “on the front line” for equal rights.

But just as Clinton was putting out the statement New York Rep. Charlie Rangel, a prominent black Clinton supporter, seemed willing to continue the fight. He said it was “absolutely stupid” and “absolutely dumb” for Obama “to infer that Dr. King, alone, passed the legislation and signed it into law,” something Obama never actually said. And then Rangel went further accusing Obama’s of writing about his teenage drug use in an effort to sell books.
 
Has the damage to a party already been done, or at least a wound exposed? And does this also not only expose a generational divide in the Democratic Party in general, but also within the black community?

What would Dr. King have thought of the last 10 days?

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this is were I see the problem:

"But Clinton’s remark was interpreted by some prominent African Americans to be a shot at the possibility of Obama’s campaign."

assuming is not good.
I dont think Clinton is racist and I am appalled that anyone would even think that.

I love the way everybody blames MSNBC for "flaming the race card in this issue"


Jerry:

The media is pushing this as an issue.  We had serveral stories about it and now we NEED A RECAP of the days prior to the supposed incident?  
The election is not about race. The democratic party has always supported equal rights. Also the democratic party has the poor in it's best interest no matter the color of their skin.  What concerns me about Obama is he is muslin.  Osama Obama is the correct way to refer to him. Obana is not Black. He is mixed between Kenya Black and Hawaian. He is more like the famous golfer who spoke out and said He was not black. Obama played the race card on the Oprah Winfrey Show. I can't believe that America would even consider electing a muslin as president after 9/11.  Take race out of it. Looks at the real picture.  Vote for anyone besides Osama Obama.
Listening to the Clintons is like growing up in a nutty family:  what was said is denied, and new spins are constantly advanced.  In the case of the Clintons, who are capable of endless self-pity, filthy tactics justify their greed for power.  I agree with the blogger who said she's ready to change her registration.  I'm an independent from now on.  If Hillary is the nominee, I'll either write someone in, or not vote.
Oh well...it's interesting what happens when liberal whites REALLY speak their mind.  For all the fanfare about what demos have done when in the executive suite, many of the so-called firsts not all(sr cabinet level appointees, some judges, 2nd black supreme court justice, first TWO consecutive secretaries of state, and even ratification of said Civil Rights Bill) have come at the pen of republicans.  Further, most white demos seem to think of blacks as perfect HUD and Sec of Education appointees and very rarely are seen side by side with them making major decisions (not sec of defense, or treasurere, or fed chief, etc).  This country has a deep wound in the color conscience and the Clintons' comments reflect what liberal whites REALLY feel...only so far.  You can go.  But only so far.  

No one is capturing my attention because it's all fluff.  Fluff me through to the primaries and election night and then after January 20th or so, you MIGHT get a chance to see the real me.

What hypocrisy from everyone in this process.  MLK and the founding fathers would be rolling over to resurrect if they knew the bafoonery at work here.
MLK was great man who made great speeches...but it was in fact LBJ, and the Republcans in Congress (beleive it or not) who voted to change the LAWS. The only real opposition seen for the civil rights act were southern DEMOCRATS... a fact lost on most.

My question is this... why do liberal's go so far out of their way to distort and re-write history?  MLK changed no laws, he wasn't an elected offical nor was he PRESIDENT... but for some reason we all to pretend that he, and he alone, changed the world.. something that is simply just not true.

This is the stuff has forced Independents like me out of the Dem party. They're Polically Correct ways create more lies and distortions and does far more harm than good. just tell the truth and speak FACTS...not warm and fuzzy lies that may make certian people better.
Why does this article call this a "back-and-forth"? As the evidence in the article shows, all of the inflammatory statements have come from HRC. Obama stayed above the fray, commenting once but not passing judgment, and then called for it to end.

HRC quickly followed suit, "me too"-ing Obama's truce just as she "me too"-ed Obama's "change" platform. Why are so many of the reports on this dust-up so kind to HRC? She made the mistaken statement and created a controversy to try and blame it on Obama's campaign. It would be more fair for this article to be titled "Hillary creates controversy over race".

I only hope the public can see past the media's distortion of this event so we can all move past it.
Justin, NY wroye: "so umm...i fail to find one instance in which senator obama was "DISTORTING" words."

justin, Obama was distorting the meaning behind Clinton's words. This was one point that most political observers said during this past week. It takes a strong executive legislator along with a movement or grass roots effort for things to change. That is all that was meant by Clinton's remarks.
I support Obama (race aside).  I think the Clinton's comments were unfortunate, but not deliberately derogatory.  B. Clinton was clearly not referring to Obama's race, but it would have been naive for him to not think his comments would have been taken out of context--by African American leaders, neutral, and not part of the Obama campaign.  H.R. Clinton's comments were perhaps a tad worse.  She was trying to underscore MLK Jr's accomplishments as a means to say that hope is futile and partisan politics works (that was her real message there).  So, I don't blame them too much for the comments that began the debate, for they were unfortunate and naive--which I didn't think the Clinton's were supposed to be.

There are two shames that I see out of this debate.  First, the Clintons' outright contempt for the truth, and rather quietly let a mistake go, they tried to score a political victory.  If one looks at the Obama campaign's comments, they were not "the campaign" injecting race into this horserace.  It is the Clintons and their surrogates saying both vile and untrue accusations.  It is a shame the Clintons' opted to lie.  The second shame is that the Democrats, Clinton supporters and the media went along with it.  Because the truth would have made the media 'biased' ...  what a load of crap.  Seriously, what does the media have to lose, the Clintons' and the supporters hate the media anyway.  THE OTHER thing that is a shame is how Obama got sucked into the argument, for no other reason than the color of his skin, not because of anything he said, because he didn't say anything wrong.  For shame, for shame indeed.


I don't blame H.R. or W.J. Clinton for the initial comments, however unfortunate or naive, but the way they have handled themselves during this debate was a disgrace and.  Sadly, I don't think either Clinton handled themselves like a future or past President!
There’s no fool like an old fool - Bob Johnson, Charley Rangel. The list goes on and on. Skip the Clinton dog-and-pony show, Senator Obama. Leave them to their self-serving explanations. Stand on character - something that Senator Clinton seems unable to do. She cannot admit that her vote on the Iraq war was a mistake, nor will she concede that a reasonable person could conclude that her most recent remarks were dismissive of Dr. King’s contributions in the fight for civil rights. Get back on track, Senator Obama. Address the important issues facing our country. Remember, communication is what is perceived. Lay a proper foundation, tell us your vision for our future and we will all be well served.
These men that Obama referred to were ordinary men doing extra-ordinary things. Why wouldn't any of us compare ourselves to any of them. They too had to start somewhere!!!
I too, am Dr. Martin Luther King Jr!!!
I too, Have A Dream!!!!
I am Somebody!!!

Why do you news reporters have to keep this going.  Its not Obama and Clinton keeping it going ITS ALL OF YOU.
What happened to getting the story straight and getting the facts before you run it.  You all should be disgusted with yourselves!!!!!!!!
I would like to point out that Obama has not brought up race.  He only responded to the garbage being put out on Sunday, a week after it started.  It's a shame that the main stream media has chosen to spin this as a war between candidates, when really only one candidate has kept it going by by sending out and endless parade of surrogates (I'm looking at you HRC)to keep it going.  And NO, I don't see Hillary as racist, the truth of it is, she is an opportunist.  For the past week, all I have heard is how bad, bad Obama keeps bringing up race and poor, sweet Hillary has no choice but to respond to his charges.  That's quite a "fairytale" she has spun, given that Obama kept his mouth shut the whole time.  I commend her for wanting to end this silliness, but will she demand her surrogates do the same and rebuke derogatory comments they make going forward.  If she is the strong, confident woman she portays herself to be she will.  Quite honestly, regardless of what Bob Johnson said about Obama, I do not understand why Hillary would want to have him on her side.  Have you seen BET, the tv station he created?  This man is the worst kind of misogynist and as a woman I am offended that Hillary Clinton would appear on a stage with him.
As T.D. Jakes once said (and this had nothing to do with the candidateS for president)"LET'S KEEP THE MAIN THING THE MAIN THING."!!!!
Charlie Rangold, Shelia Jackson, and Robert Johnson have chosen their candidate…And in doing so they feel the need to bring down another Candidate.

The comments that come from these individuals do not represent many African American’s thinking…Do these out of date People of Color believe that Dr. King would not be proud of what Senator Obama has done…What’s apparent is that Clinton Campaign feels that if  comments like these are said by an African American, then they are valet because they come from an African American …Many of us in the African American community are not this easily manipulated......And Shame on them for believing so....SHAME ON THEM!!!!!!

I bet if we look back in time, we probably could find the same type of individuals, around the same age, providing the same type of resistance to what Dr. King was trying to do…And that is bring about change…

Charlie Rangold, Shelia Jackson and Robert Johnson...Change doesn't just stop and end at your door because you have made it as far as you can…. Now it’s time for others to take the torch……
P.S.  I think the media should realize that the women's rights movements and civil rights movements have often been historically at odds.  Particularly, members of the suffrage movements threw African Americans and civil rights under the bus--so to speak.  That is a point of history and a point of fact.  I would be surprised if history didn't repeat itself.
Dee wrote - That would be like someone telling her she couldn't compare herself to Susan B. Anthony or Katie Stanton.

She probably doesn't know who these women were, they didn't appear on BET.
I think Dr. Martin Luther King would be very proud of Obama, for his candidacy, results in Iowa and NH, and stepping up to call the truce. HRC is showing some of the same traits as her husband, you can tell she isn't telling the whole truth because her lips are moving. Personally, its events like these that cause me to wonder why I spent 24 years in the military, defending our country and our freedom. Is this the reason why? We are in the middle of what could be the greatest series of events in our recent history, and instead of remarking on how phenominal that is, we have two candidates who aren't the "status quo" acting like the status quo. Argue, bicker and play one-ups-man-ship to gain that political foothold.  Do we really want a President that will run our country that gets the position by running every one else down? It used to be that we would elect a President built on words like Trust, Respect and Integrity, seems like now we select the lesser of the evil. The whole process makes me ill.
Seems to me, Mr Holier than thou Obama starting everything in the first place awhile ago with the Bushlite comment. Too bad if he can't take the heat. There will be tons more from the repubs if he gets the nomination. And I seriously doubt he can handle it. Hes a wimp.
there is no way that the clintons can be blamed for obamas  drug use,inexperiance or moslim schooling that his loyalty to america should be called into question.
If this entire race controversy is to go away,the media will have to stop fanning the flames.They,more than anyone else are the reason we can't seem to get past all this.So they should stop the  hypcrocasy they practice in the name of ratings and become responsible.
there is no way that the clintons can be blamed for obamas  drug use,inexperiance or moslim schooling that his loyalty to america should be called into question.
there is no way that the clintons can be blamed for obamas  drug use,inexperiance or moslim schooling that his loyalty to america should be called into question.
Essentially this is becoming a battle between the naive (undereducated and easily manipulated), established interests with poltical opportuninties at stake, the elderly (with some racial prejudices) versus the people looking to get past all this political nonsense.
what would Dr. King think of the last ten days of this campaign?....Dr. King would not approve of their message;...then he would pause and clear his throat before enlightening the crowd to the best remaining, qualified candidate on either ticket..."get out there and vote and vote for Edwards!"
So, let's see, Obama is okay when he calls HRC "disingenuous" because of the way that she portrays her vote about Iraq, but when the Clinton's call Obama's "superior judgment" a "fairy tale"---oh, that's offensive, and racist!  As Clinton said, "Give me a break!"  Obama is deflecting attention for the fact that when controversial, he does not vote (130 de-facto abstentions in Illinois), and when called to work, he trumpets a bill (ethics bill for lobbyists) that, in fact, allows lobbyists to buy drinks, lobster, and anything else that your heart desires as long as you are not seated at a table.  I could go for Obama if he did not attempt to pass as a "non-politician" blessed with superior judgment and purity.  But his self-righteousness, which is not matched by his record, revolts me.  It would revolt me in any candidate.  I know---if you are an Obama supporter and got to this point, you'll say that I am racist.  It only proves your inability to read a different map of reality.
OMG what will the media think up next to cause controversy. Just stop.
Finally..a somewhat accurrate assessment of the last 10 days. Take home points:

1. Obama didn't start this crap, and hasn't tried to fuel the flames for Hillary's ongoing, flailing campaign and desperation to try to make race an issue to help her failing campaign.

2. For a few people who feel Obama is all talk, you need to read the transcript from his Meet The Press interview from 11/07, or better yet, watch the video.

1. Consitutional professor
2. Civil Rights Attorney
3. Illinois State Senator for 8 years
4. Washington Senator for Illinois

When we talk about experience, you can't really count the "first lady" role as experience. Hillary wasn't the primary person making any decisions during ALL of those years, Bill was.

I hope they ask Hillary to name the 3 most important things she's initiated and completed in her alleged 35 years of servcie. It's about time someone make her explain WHAT in the world she is referring to.

3. Obama has put in time in the "real world" like the rest of us. He knows what it's like to struggle through the teen years, take care of his dying mother, and still wind up at Harvard Law in the same high position on the Law Review that Bill CLinton had...this is a self-made person who has worked hard to be where he is in politics and who worked tirelessly to help the poor in Chicago.

Please let's not try to make it seem that OBama is this naive person new to politics, it's just not true.

4. Obama still has my vote!
5. Everyone needs to move forward, this nonsense is just another way the Clintons are distracting from the real issues.

Working Americans for Obama!!!!

GO OBAMA
The democrats all need to focus on the true racist and true misogynist in this presidential race - Mike Huckaby.  
Dr. King will say to Obama; You talk too much. Show me what you have done and than we talk"

Dr. King will say to Hillary: I see your heart and soul through the years you fight for this country, for women, for children and for all people. Be ready on day one.
These blogs never cease to amaze me. To Obama supporters he can simply do no wrong. You guys remind me of Bush supporters. It is more then naieve to think he had nothing to do with this and wasn't trying to use it for Political gain. You can support this guy if you want to obviously but don't be blind. He is a mere political operative just like CLinton, Edwards and any other. He is but an opportunist with a loyal cult like following for some strange reason. Tell me what he has done to receive the god like treatement. Next you Obama supporters will be saying its unpatriotic to criticize him.
i actually believed that we would get through this entire election process without race being injected into the discussion.i   do believe that this is indeed "a moment" in our collective history that we should celebrate. The media should have treated this squabbling as a non-event.Needles to say, Hilary clinton will not have my vote.
Hmm race wasn't a subject at the debate.  So it didn't start with edwards at the debate it started after the debate when clinton decided to play the female card so that iowa did not repeat.

To take attention off the female card she also played the fairy tale and race card so press coverage didn't get dominated by her portrayal of a vulnerable female to turn out the women vote and reverse the disturbing trend from Iowa.  Before the race degenerated into sex based politics they threw out the red meat of race (the only issue that would overshadow a sex based story) to ensure it was not sex politics that got the headlines.

I doubt they wanted it to go this far but on the other hand they are setting up the surrogate excuses for a loss in South Carolina.  They'll argue obama played race.

It's interesting you fail to discuss hillary's fundamental change from aloof and superior to feminine and soft.  From In it to win it to in it for you.  She had no choice but to put race on the table and she did it skillfully.  It distrtacted from the story about her direct appeal to women.  Anyone believe that subjugating MLK to Lyndon wouldn't get black commentators driving the story?

The clintons play politics well but I'll just note I don't see Blacks for Obama signs behind obama at speeches I do see women for hillary signs behind hillary.  No who is really running on their genetic code.
Shadow - Obama calling a "truce" now is NOT leadership!!
He willingly allowed the racist crap to continue!  while his young supporters racheted up the rhetoric.

A leader knows when to jump in and provide leadership.
Obama DID NOT - until his internals indicated Edwards was rising in Nevada.  

Go Edwards!
Shadow - Obama calling a "truce" now is NOT leadership!!
He willingly allowed the racist crap to continue!  while his young supporters racheted up the rhetoric.

A leader knows when to jump in and provide leadership.
Obama DID NOT - until his internals indicated Edwards was rising in Nevada.  

Go Edwards!
I Agree With Barack!! Hillary Clinton's word's from last night.I knew it coming, just did'nt know when.


Barack Obama for President.


I was leaning toward Clinton.. but now I believe that Obama has twice the character that Clinton has.  And character is important.
Rangel and Johnson's comments are idiotic and as an Afican American it's points to them as being immature and regressive. Nobody is fooled, and the black community as a whole recognizes how wonderful Obama has been in this primary. The Clinton's pushed this issue (whith inaccurate rhetoric) and only backed down until the national media began fanning the flames even more.
I've been a die-hard democrat/progressive/liberal my entire adult life.  I've worked for social justice and environmental issues for two decades.  I'm stating for the record right now, if its HRC vs John McCain, he'll get my vote.  I simply can't handle the Clinton/Rove style of politics any longer.
Nashville_fan...thank you for making that statement.  I was wondering the same exact thing....very interesting.  My vote goes to Obama!
I am so disappointed by the negative Clinton campaign!  I have read all comments exchanged between all parties and I cannot find where Obama ever focused on race.  It was HRC who began this downward spiral of trying to deceive and divide the American people. She brought up race first, got caught and is now playing the blame game. Hillary Clinton has shown she is willing to do anything to win this election. She is willing to sacrifice the Democratic Party just so she can say “I am the first woman President” (What a joke).

Also, how can she have Johnson represent her in this election?  He may have billions of dollars, but Johnson is not intelligent.  Mr. Johnson has destroyed an entire generation with the filth that is shown on BET.  This alone has shown that Johnson is the true sell-out!!! Johnson would sell his own mother for a "buck". Since when does Johnson present the African American race?  What a stupid move on the Clinton's (Maybe her campaign should have done some further research before sticking Johnson up there on Sunday).  Please wake up people, don't let the Clinton's fool us!! They are only interested in making history. They will continue to destroy this country....  I am a democrat, but will vote anyone if HRC wins the nomination. By the way, at one time I was a strong Clinton supporter until I discovered the web of lies, continually cast by this insincere crowd. It is the Clinton’s that keep the web of lies, deceit and fear alive in this country.

Let’s vote for change!!!!  Anyone but Hillary Clinton in 2008!!!
I have what I see as a more grevious complaint ...remember the first republican debate. The fact that health care was not even brought up once....i was a republican....now I've been forced into the democratic parties corner.....know this when you began to lose your health race relations and perceived slights against your character will not matter to you whether we are in an election cycle or not....  
Ten days? That's all you're looking at is 10 Days. I find it quite curious as to how many of the MSM is clutching to the MLK/LBJ scenario, AS IF that was the first Incident. Quite frankly, if you were being honest, Mr. Todd, you would be going back to the Shaheen Smear in New Hampshire. There is a Clinton Attacks Obama Wiki- Incident Page - that has, so far TWENTY-ONE Incidents of attacks on Senator Obama. And, it's quite curious how many of them, after the fact, are 'explained away' as ' misunderstandings' and 'misinterpretation' of the ENGLISH language. It becomes almost farcical, really.

http://clintonattacksobama.pbwiki.com/Incident+Tracker?full_access=Uv2WPiKahP&l=S

So, understand the HISTORY here. A series of ' Isolated Incidents' that are neither ISOLATED nor INCIDENTAL. They form a PATTERN. A fairly obvious PATTERN.
Charles Rangel is a great American who has served his country admirably and honorably both in the war and then in congress.   Yes he has proposed the draft.  Why?  Perhaps you should actually look into this before you defame and ridicule him.  He rightly believes that the Iraq war is being fought by the poor in our society.  The military families are carrying all of the sacrifice and have been for the last 5 years.  He is trying to make a point.  Does he believe it would become law?  No, of course he doesn't.  He has said as much.  He has been trying to raise the topic to a national discussion.  A reasoned debate.  Not the knee jerk disrespectful rantings I have been seeing by many of the Obama supporters.  I used to be neutral on Obama.  If  he was our nominee, great, I would support him.  Not now.  I have seen many great Americans savaged recently.  It seems any of our older Americans who have contributed so much to our past but have the gall not to agree with Sen Obama are being denegrated by surrogates of this campaign.  I am done with Obama.
Please everyone - Press and Bloggers included, take a deep breath and read what U.S. House Majority Whip James Clyburn had to say on the subject today.  It seems to me that he - the one person whose opinion EVERYONE wants - is the only voice of reason in all of this insanity:
He declined to endorse any one candidate, and as often as possible, included John Edwards in the conversation, noting that all three candidates are good presidential possibilities.
"I'm very hopeful now that this little episode will get this behind us very soon," he said. And he worried how the story could divide the party. "I think that people are talking about race versus gender, when we ought to be talking about Democrats versus Republicans."
There was also displeasure with Bob Johnson's swipes at Obama. A friend of Johnson's, Clyburn said, "He's a businessman much more than a politician. And sometimes businesspeople, who don't practice politics daily, will say things in a very un-artful way."
He warned that any discussion of gender, race and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. must be treated with care, but also acknowledged, "I don't believe, having been a candidate very often myself that we ought to be just insanely politically correct about everything in a campaign."
Clyburn chose to speak out on the issue because, as he said, "My wife has been saying to me, 'Somebody needs to rise up and get this thing behind us so that the American people can have a very good, fruitful discussion about what ails us.'"
I am afraid that both candidates are to blame for this argument.  First, Senator Clinton, worried about Senator Obama's inspirational advantage, stated Dr King was inspirational, but it took President Johnson to pass the Civil Right Act into law.  Her logic was misguided.  Naturally, only a President can sign a bill into law (unless their veto is overriden by Congress).  However anyone can initiate public support for a cause, as Dr King and many civil right supporters so bravely accomplished.  Senator Obama, in response to Clinton, should have simply stated this, firmly but respectfully, without his cute comments on MLK telling the people to go home.  Now hopefully we can stop talking about this and get on with issues that need immediate discussion, i.e. Irag, health care, economy, environment and education.
This is so commonplace and boring.
When do we get to hear about the issues.
Health care for all Americans.
Education.
Ending the never ending war.
Poverty
Living wages.
The Patriot Act.
Their views on torture.
The war economy and how it has affected ordinary people?
Come on NBC, this is just rumor mill stuff.
Can we get back to the democratic process of determining our future President based on their stand on the issues and how they plan to implement them?
Chris Matthew of MSNBC-ardent Obama supporter was the first to inject race into this election. To taint the victory of Hilary in New Hamphire, he claimed Obama lost because of race. He should be ashamed of himself. Many people I talk to no longer watch his program because of his extreme bias for other candidates and religious support in whatever Obama does. He will want this race story to continue. It will hurt many people and will hurt his candidate-Obama most beyong South Carolina. I did not vote for Hillary but I hate the way he treats her.
I think the hypocrisy of Obama supporters is astonishing.  They try to say that Hillary attacks Obama personally while he only attacks on record.  Then, they themselves go and say things like:

"No wonder Hillary cried, she's a liar," and "Hillary is evil, she'll do anything just to get elected!"

I could list more stupid, irrationally hateful comments, but I don't have the three hours it would take to write them all out.  Maybe Obama's supporters aren't really into Obama's message of a "different politics."  Maybe they just want to feel all good about themselves, pretending to buy into it, then continue "politics as usual" when it suits their moods.

Wake up!
This is childish. I think the press is turning this into a race issue so they have something to talk about to get people to view the advertisements they're selling. Obviously these candidates will say and do anything to get elected, which means attacking each other about anything. Thats it. Period. Get over it and move on to the issues please.


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