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Oh-eight (D): Hillary's various personas

Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:18 AM by Mark Murray
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CLINTON: The New York Times’ Healy writes about the various campaign personas Clinton has taken on. “There has been Commander in Chief Hillary Rodham Clinton, the steely leader who, voters were assured, would ‘destroy’ terrorists and be Thatcher-like tough. There has been Strong-and-Experienced Hillary Clinton, but that proved to be so uninspiring that Change-Agent Hillary and Likable-Since-I-Was-a-Kid Hillary were rolled out. And Teary-Eyed Hillary, of course, won the New Hampshire primary last week, after the candidate choked up describing the rigors of the race.”

“But as her advisers said after New Hampshire, Mrs. Clinton cannot cry her way to the Democratic nomination. So she and her team have been searching for the right personality to help her connect emotionally with voters — an intuitive talent of her chief competitor for the Democratic presidential nomination, Senator Barack Obama — while also emphasizing her competence and experience. Her newest public face is a blend of policy and persona.”

The Boston Globe on Clinton vs. Obama on Iraq: “But as she returns the spotlight to the Iraq war, Clinton has glossed over aspects of her own Iraq record, in which she voted to authorize the war and did not support alternative legislation that put more emphasis on international diplomacy. Clinton doesn't have the option of asserting that she had more foresight on the war than Obama, since she now views the invasion as a mistake. So her attack is aimed less at Obama's stance on the Iraq war itself than at using his Senate record to convince voters that he failed to follow through on his prewar rhetoric.” More: “Some of the Clintons' arguments are exaggerated, while others are true. A review of Obama's votes on Iraq in the Senate shows that he was not one of the most outspoken opponents of the Bush administration's Iraq policy in the Senate until he began preparing to run for president. But Obama's position before the invasion was one of passionate opposition.”

The New York Sun fact-checks one of the hits the Clinton campaign has issued against Obama regarding his abortion and notes she backed a similar restriction. “[O]ne of those bills — the ‘Born-Alive Infants Protection Act’ — is similar to legislation that Mrs. Clinton and 97 other senators supported in Congress in 2001. The federal measure, sponsored by a leading abortion foe, Senator Santorum of Pennsylvania, was intended as a protection against botched abortions and required that a fetus that survived an abortion be defined as a person.”

EDWARDS: “Edwards, who is relying on federal money to help fund his presidential campaign, may not get any more. The list of lobbyists raising cash for the candidates, and how much they have brought in, remains hidden. The Federal Election Commission doesn't have enough members to oversee what is expected to be the most expensive election in US history. Down to just two of its six commissioners, the FEC can't assemble the quorum of four votes required to approve federal campaign funds, enact regulations, undertake fraud investigations, or provide legal advice to candidates.”

OBAMA: In an ongoing series of checking the candidates’ records, NBC’s Lisa Myers, on TODAY, examined whether Obama is an agent of change. Said presidential historian Michael Beschloss in the piece, “ No one can argue that Barack Obama in three years in the Senate has not tried to bring about change == but there is only so much you can really do in three years.”

The Politico reports on the latest piece of Obama oppo that was circulated and then denounced by the candidate himself. Obama apparently didn’t like the talking points memo that a South Carolina staffer circulated regarding Clinton campaign rhetoric on race.  This is not the first time Obama has expressed unhappiness with his campaign staff when they’ve been caught fanning the flames of a particular negative Clinton story.

“Last month, at an Iowa news conference, Obama said he would fire any of his staffers who engaged in personal attacks, saying, ‘It's contrary to the message of change that I've been talking about on this campaign.’ He noted differences between personal attacks and pointing out policy divergence. Axelrod said Obama only sent word of his displeasure with the four-page memo but defended Obama's response as ‘appropriate action.’”

“‘Let's put this thing in perspective,’ Axelrod said. ‘This is a compendium of quotes from newspapers that was provided on request from a low-level staffer in South Carolina who probably thought she was being responsive to an inquiry. I think word was sent and received.’”

Obama is trying to shift the focus of his campaign message to the economy, like, pretty much every other candidate.

An attendee to an Obama town hall in Los Angeles yesterday brought up Obama’s past drug use. “‘You've had experience yourself, where if you were arrested when you were a teenager, you would never be elected to the presidency,’ the man said. Obama did not acknowledge the personal reference. ‘I am not interested in legalizing drugs,’ he said.”

“‘What I am interested in is putting more of an emphasis on the public health approach to drugs and less on ... incarceration.’ He said too many ‘first-time nonviolent drug offenders’ were locked up ‘instead of diverting them into programs where they can get treatment, and all we do is give them a master's degree in criminality.’”

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Funny, I had the same impression at the LV debate..."so this is the new Hillary". Funny how Obama seems to be the same guy, same comments about his debating style, from every debate. Hillary, on the other hand, is sometimes in control, sometimes the wounded woman getting attacked by the boys club, sometimes with the hint of a tear. Just so many personalities...don't know which one to vote for. Wonder if they will all be on the ballot.
Seriously, this article is a joke. Get it? Serious, joke? All the candidates are many faceted and as are all people. Pretending that is not hte truth is ridiculous. This article os just a way for the hatemonger to go about slamming Hillary again instead of convincing us that there is a better candidate.
Do you really want a person for president that needs to "search for the right personality'?

Sounds to me like Hillary has the Mitt Romney problem.
Hillary Clinton is the 'Sybil' of politics. You'd think the meds she takes to combat it would help, but they don't seem to have much effect.
The Clinton's are the ugly politics of the past and are not what we need. How in the world is she going to work with a congress that despises/hates them?
The New York Times’ Healy writes about the various campaign personas Clinton has taken on.

Let's see....she has been....

A Mississippi preacher
A hip hop expert
A Yankee
A southerner
A midwesterner
A Barbie doll
A semi racist
A supposed champion of Illegal women

By the time she hits California, she'll be claiming she was the inspiration for the song "California Girls"

The New York Sun fact-checks one of the hits the Clinton campaign has issued against Obama regarding his abortion and notes she backed a similar restriction.

Better go back and re-check your votes Hillary before you go after someone, didn't your husband teach you that?

Where Hillary is focused on the issues of race and gender and trying to bring Obama down, Obama seems to be the one that wants to talk about the issues of the economy.  Hillary would be in a better position if she would just stop flinging mud and start talking about the issues.

Personas or whatever, this lady is something to remember.  Making her a chameleon is not going to make people all of a sudden like her.  We were introduced to the real Hillary in the beginning, so all of the change means nothing to me.  
She has been showing her a$$, since she began this race to Washington.  To me Iowa didn't give her a win, so she now says the race really didn't start until NH.  What a mess she is.  
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Says Joe Lowery: Obama’s black doubters have a ‘slave mentality’
Wednesday, January 16, 2008, 04:09 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Just when you thought supporters of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton had gotten past this race thing.

In an address to the Hungry Club at Butler Street YMCA in downtown Atlanta, the Rev. Joseph Lowery re-stoked the fires on Wednesday when he told the largely African-American audience that “a slave mentality” was fueling black doubts about Obama’s chances of capturing the White House.

The report comes from our AJC colleague, John Hollis, who was at the event.

“No matter how much education they have, they never graduated from the slave mentality,” Lowery said of those who have advised Obama to wait, or have doubted his ability to compete in a general election.

“The slavery mentality compels us to say, ‘We can’t win, we can’t do,’” said Lowery, an avid Obama supporter and a co-founder of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference.

Strong words, when you consider that they include people like U.S. Rep. John Lewis or former Atlanta mayor Andrew Young.

Lowery likened discouraging comments about Obama to ones Martin Luther King received while imprisoned in a Birmingham jail in 1963.

A number of local white ministers told King at the time they agreed with him, but they didn’t think the time was right for such civil dissent.

“Martin said the people who were saying ‘later’ were really saying ‘never.’ But the time to do right is always right now,” Lowery said.

When asked whether the Democratic party was ready for a black president, Lowery replied, “I don’t care. They weren’t ready for a lot of things.”
Hillary is a intelligent person, but it has become frighteningly clear that she is just not electable in the general election.  Already 47% of the electorate have said they will not cast their vote for Mrs. Clinton.  That is higher than at any time during the campaigns of Gore and Kerry.

I know a lot of women want to see the first woman president and I sympathize with that movement.  I also know that a lot of African Americans would like to see the first African American president and I can also sympathize with that movement.

However, at this point in time, I just want a Democrat to be president.  This country has been absolutely devasted by the Republicans and we can't afford even 4 more years.  Therefore, as Democrats, we need to take the responsibility to nominate the most electable candidate, so that we have someone in the White House representing the ideals of the Democratic Party.  At this point in time, that person appears to be Obama.  

I understand that there is a lot of emotion in this race, with good reason.  But, at some point, we need to put the emotions behind us and coalesce around a candidate that will help us take the White House.
Im so sick of seeing Hillary free advertizing by the media on tv it seems as though you make ous feel she the only one...When are you going to tell ous whats she done in the last 35yrs...That may be helpful...I think we should all take a walk on that bridge to now where and get some diet food at the capital building..I can understand the rational to many fat cats in Washington.......
If Hillary is the most experienced and the self proclaimed candidate that is ready on Day one....why is she having such a hard time finding her voice in the campaign.  She doesn't look very ready to me and she has been planning this campaign for years. She can't even market herself how is she going to manage the country.
Ready on day one, she proclaims. She can't control her supporter's, her campaign, even the word's coming out of her Mouth.Please tell me, How that is Ready on day one? Any Taker's.

The Barry Goldwater girl learned well, when You having nothing to run on, Smear your Opponent. Seem's to work on 51 % of Dumbass American's. I'm Confused.

Hillary is a Classic case from the movie Sybll.Multilple Personalities would put you & I in the Phyic ward. Yet voter's somehow buy this for some reason. Hillary keep's talking experience but refuses to produce a RESUME.I don't of Any Business that would Hire her just because she says she has 35 years experience.Give America your RESUME Hillary if you have 1.

" DELUSIONAL THINKING BY COMMON SENSE AMERICAN'S IS OVER "
I am so glad I cancelled the NY Times, which once was THE BOSTON GLOBE.
Ask any woman who has reached her "change of life" and she will tell you she also has between 8 and 20 personas a day.  Also, if I were one of the 10 million people a day advising Hillary -- I would just say; "BE YOURSELF".  People see right through it when you are not yourself.  And...like Al Gore should have done in 2000, send ALL your advisors to the Mideast to ground out some peace talks...a nice way to get rid of them for awhile.
WHO CARE ABOUT HILLARY....SHE IS A LIAR AND A FAKE....SHE WOULD SELL HER SOUL TO THE DEVIL IF IT MEANT SHE WOULD GET ELECTED.....SHE DISTORTS OTHERS RECORDS BECAUSE SHE CAN'T RUN ON HER OWN...

"Hillary Clinton has sponsored 350 bills since Jan 22, 2001, of which 304 haven’t made it out of committee (Very Poor) and 2 were successfully enacted (Average, relative to peers)."

SHE IS ONE ACCOMPLISH POLITICIAN....AND HER RECORDS SHOWS IT.
THIS WOMAN SCARCES ME TO DEATH.  I WOULD FEEL BETTER WITH A 10 YEAR OLD BOY SCOUT RUNNING THIS COUNTRY THAN HER.
Behold 'Bad Actor Hillary'...
A Con Job for America
Don't let them see the real 'Crooked, Special Interest, Unethical Hillary'

From First Read:

'...CLINTON: The New York Times’ Healy writes about the various campaign personas Clinton has taken on. “There has been Commander in Chief Hillary Rodham Clinton, the steely leader who, voters were assured, would ‘destroy’ terrorists and be Thatcher-like tough. There has been Strong-and-Experienced Hillary Clinton, but that proved to be so uninspiring that Change-Agent Hillary and Likable-Since-I-Was-a-Kid Hillary were rolled out. And Teary-Eyed Hillary, of course, won the New Hampshire primary last week, after the candidate choked up describing the rigors of the race.”

“But as her advisers said after New Hampshire, Mrs. Clinton cannot cry her way to the Democratic nomination....'

Not that she won't try....
How about 'Race Baiting Hillary' ?
Boy are we in a mess as a nation.  After all these years with conservative politics, how can anyone argue for more of the same?  To claim Cheny, DeLay and Conrad Burns are not "real" conservatives is like asking what the meaning of "is" is.  It's just plain dumb.  Yet the Republicans argue that each one is more conservative than the other.  Come on, folks, we don't need more conservative Republican nonsense.

Real change,Obama.
And I wonder which Hillary personality will show up on day one.
If it weren't so ridiculous, it would almost be laughable how NBC, and First Read through MSNBC, continues to set forth copious amounts of anti-Hillary commentaries while continuously presenting pro-Obama articles.

BTW, I've received several untruthful anti-Obama E-mails recently and scolded the senders for forwarding such garbage to me.

If you can't be both objective and fair, you aught to be quiet, no matter whom you prefer.

Why did the Clinton Administration in the 1990s , not insist on provisions in the WTO Trade agreements they signed America to for over 10 years of Tariff Free Imports by Multi-National Corporation that ended in 2005 , amendments that sure could have been realized by the time Bill Clinton renewed the Agreements in 1999-2000 , that would have insisted that the Importing Corporations would pay fees to SS and Medicare Funds to the Government programs , so that in order to continue to import duty free , the duty of sustaining the loss of revenue to the SS and Medicare systems were being met , to counter the los that Out Sourcing product manufacturing has caused in overall Jobs Incomes Ratios of the way BIG BOX Stores have reduced the way in which the cash flows of supplying goods and services through a larger frame work of interaction of society participating in the delivery of the goods and services helps to spread an equal amount of the wealth throughout the society , which is in turn a larger income and therefore able to provide higher wages and tax revenues throughout the great part of Society ??
This is why I say that if the Clintons have the Experience they claim then why didn't these issues of SS and Medicare be a part of the WTO Trade policies to counter the effect of this consolidating an loss of overall wealth redistribution and revenue reimbursement to the SS and Medicare funding programs , and why now is Hillary more qualified to lead what is essentially her Husbands miss judgment in the first place ???
There is no reason for this to have happened , because the Largest Generation of Wealth from goods and services production , coupled with the greatest advancements in science and technologies has happened over the past 20-25 years , and if there ever was a time in History to have had the resources to battle the loss of funding in any area of economic systems functions , it would have been during these last 20-25 years , so where does the buck stop here is my questions , and who can we trust to lead the country forward to take care of these issues ?????
 Barack Obama , the candidate for Peace and Prosperity can get the job done with Dignity and class , to restore the hope for the future of all .
Thanks for your time and have a Great day in the USA .  Tony in Wickenburg, AZ
"The New York Times’ Healy writes about the various campaign personas Clinton has taken on."
--Wouldn't it be nice if she had enough confidence in herself to actually run as herself?  That would be novel ...



*swoons* over Obama.  The man is a heartthrob, as are his policies and his transparency.
Why did the Clinton Administration in the 1990s , not insist on provisions in the WTO Trade agreements they signed America to for over 10 years of Tariff Free Imports by Multi-National Corporation that ended in 2005 , amendments that sure could have been realized by the time Bill Clinton renewed the Agreements in 1999-2000 , that would have insisted that the Importing Corporations would pay fees to SS and Medicare Funds to the Government programs , so that in order to continue to import duty free , the duty of sustaining the loss of revenue to the SS and Medicare systems were being met , to counter the los that Out Sourcing product manufacturing has caused in overall Jobs Incomes Ratios of the way BIG BOX Stores have reduced the way in which the cash flows of supplying goods and services through a larger frame work of interaction of society participating in the delivery of the goods and services helps to spread an equal amount of the wealth throughout the society , which is in turn a larger income and therefore able to provide higher wages and tax revenues throughout the great part of Society ??
This is why I say that if the Clintons have the Experience they claim then why didn't these issues of SS and Medicare be a part of the WTO Trade policies to counter the effect of this consolidating an loss of overall wealth redistribution and revenue reimbursement to the SS and Medicare funding programs , and why now is Hillary more qualified to lead what is essentially her Husbands miss judgment in the first place ???
There is no reason for this to have happened , because the Largest Generation of Wealth from goods and services production , coupled with the greatest advancements in science and technologies has happened over the past 20-25 years , and if there ever was a time in History to have had the resources to battle the loss of funding in any area of economic systems functions , it would have been during these last 20-25 years , so where does the buck stop here is my questions , and who can we trust to lead the country forward to take care of these issues ?????
 Barack Obama , the candidate for Peace and Prosperity can get the job done with Dignity and class , to restore the hope for the future of all .
Thanks for your time and have a Great day in the USA .  Tony in Wickenburg, AZ
I agree with Jesse, from Burnsville...with approximately half of the voters maintaining they would NEVER vote for HRC, we Democrats need to determine which candidate can best take the White House. I am as much a feminist as the next woman, and I would love to see a woman in the White House, but regardless of her intelligence and capabilities, HRC is not the woman...she has too much baggage. It seems to me that Obama stands the best chance.  Even if Edwards decides to drop out at some point, and his votes go to Obama, that may still leave Obama behind Clinton.  If Hillary gets the nomination, how many Dem  votes will be lost to the Republican candidate? I'm afraid supports of Hillary will, unintentionally, give the White House back to the Republicans.
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf

Obama's plan for America. Know the facts, and spread them.

Obama '08!
Tony Newbill, Wickenburg, AZ
Care to run for president?
It's a crying shame how so many Americans can see the failures of our elected politicians, but the elected are so blindsided by power. The moment we realize a politician has morphed into a power-monger we need to vote them Out of power.
Wake up America.
Make educated votes.
Our future depends on it.
surely we don't need a president that obviously has a multiple personality disorder, hope she gets the psychiatric care she needs
As I watch Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on the campaign trail, I find them increasingly a study in contrasts, their differences evident not only in the things they say but in the fundamental nature of their respective campaigns. Hillary Clinton wants to be America's manager-in-chief, and her campaign shows it. Clinton '08 is a strictly managed affair from the top down, and that is how decisions are made: from the top down. Among Clinton's high profile backers is Martha Stewart, and Clinton '08 has all the earmarks of a Martha Stewart campaign, a campaign with not so much as a throw pillow out of place. In fact I should imagine that if one were to compare one of Clinton's speeches to a Martha Stewart address before a gathering of potential investors, one would find very little difference. Barack Obama, in contrast, wishes to lead by inspiring; and he has already demonstrated the ability to inspire many thousands across the United States and indeed around the world. If Hillary Clinton represents the market-model, managerial mentality of the 1990s, Obama seems to recall the political and social leaders of the 1960s, as many have observed - leaders who believed likewise that leadership was about more than just managing bureaucracy. None of America's greatest presidents are considered great because of their bureaucratic management skills. Abraham Lincoln's authorship of the Emancipation Proclamation was not an act of effective bureaucratic management, nor was JFK's dream to put a human on the moon by the end of his decade. If Barack Obama were not in possession of the basic skills required for the job he seeks, he would not have come as far as he has. Obama possesses far more, however, than the ability merely to be our chief pencil pusher.
We are tired of trusting the same people who have been a great part of the problems we are having in this country to fix those same problems they helped to creat in woshington.

If you helped in starting this war in Iraq through your vote in woshington, you were wrong when it counted the most. That is your expirience. If you have been part of the fights that divided this country and woshington and helped deny the people well intended bills like good health care for everyone, you were wrong when it counted the most. That is your expirience. If you have more favours to give to special interests and lobbyists in woshington because they are fighting for you in this campaign; you are wrong when it counts the most. That is your expirience. If you believe in the bush foreign policy of doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, you are wrong when it counts the most. That is your expirience. If you are scared to say or do the right thing even when it's unpopular, as a leader, you are wrong.

Expirience is like a real view mirror and while it shows us where you have been, it can't and shouldn't be used to tell us where we are going without good judgement; we can't look back to the future if we have to go forward to the future. We need a new leader with the right judgement, and the right expirience; a leader who will inspire us to unite for a common cause; who will do the right things when they count the most rather than do the wrong things and look for a chance to fix everything later. We have seen the cost of a broken system in blood, and poverty and in many other ways that we can't and shouldn't be scared of a new day. A better day. We need to know that Yes. we. can. If we have the courage to change. Obama 08.

In the meantime, if you're tired of politics as usually, come visit www.barackobama.com. He's got new plans listed for the economy and the war in Iraq. Come take a look and see if you'd like to be a part of the people's MOVEMENT for change!
That's right, all you Hatemongering Hillary Bashers, keep it up: all the way to HER Inauguration Day, thank-you very much! Hillary For President!!!
And I wonder which Hillary personality will show up on day one.

Good point Al . . . Let's hope we never have to find out the answer to that one.  As my grandma would have said, "she's a joke!"
DA TX:
"THIS WOMAN SCARCES ME TO DEATH.  I WOULD FEEL BETTER WITH A 10 YEAR OLD BOY SCOUT RUNNING THIS COUNTRY THAN HER.
DA TX (Sent Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:53 AM)"

Don't we have a 10 year old boy scout running the country now?  How's that working out for us?
That's right, all you Hatemongering Hillary Bashers, keep it up: all the way to HER Inauguration Day, thank-you very much! Hillary For President!!!

Cathy, Upstate NY (Sent Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:43 PM)


And if she wins, don't think we are not going away...
Just like in sports....
We'll have a four year guaranteed contract....
IF Hillary were elected that would mean the US would have had only two families in the White House for almost a quarter of a century.  American can do better! Hillary has been part of the Washington machine too long.  The list of special interests the Clinton's are beholden to is probably far longer than anyone can imagine.

It is time for a change.  Barack Obama represents the best that America can offer.  Honesty, integrity, intelligence and character are the qualities I want in a leader. Race and gender aside, Barack Obama, in this election is the best candidate for the job.  Hillary might be a great person with great qualities but as John Edwards said she represents the status quo.  We've been there and done that.  Again, it's time for a change.

Obama has shown me that he has the tools necessary to  put America back on a path toward being the great country we should strive to be.  He certainly inspires me to believe it can be achieved.
Why are all the supportive Hillary comments not be added to this list?  These comments are in no way representative of all the people sending in comments...Is First Read deliberately leaving out the positive comments for Hillary Clinton?  I have repeatedly seen this happen day after day...can't the controllers at MSNBC at least be fair and let each candidate have a fair chance?
Give me a break .  Where you inspired in the last Election who did you vote for?  I was inspired by Bush voted for him twice and apoligize now to every Man and woman that has died in Iraq.  Don't want pretty words or inspiration.  Our Country is going BROKE.  Inspiration is not going to do it. How many Americans are unemployed?  Why, Free trade and big business shipping our jobs to china and india so they can make more profits by employing low wage workers. We are being sold out by big business.  I think its funny when you wonder who will buy all these foreign products when every job in America is gone for the middle class. Michigan is not in a resession they are in a DEPRESSION. I don't want Inspiration.  If Americans stop buying this Country will fail.  The housing market was keeping us afloat.  It is gone. We are in a Ressesion.  No I don't want Inspiration.  Bush and Bernachi are going to give a 100 bil dollar incentive package so the common folk will spend money and keep the ecomony afloat.  I do not want 300 dollars I want the American jobs back. No Inspiration will not do it for me.
Give me a break .  Where you inspired in the last Election who did you vote for?  I was inspired by Bush voted for him twice and apoligize now to every Man and woman that has died in Iraq.  Don't want pretty words or inspiration.  Our Country is going BROKE.  Inspiration is not going to do it. How many Americans are unemployed?  Why, Free trade and big business shipping our jobs to china and india so they can make more profits by employing low wage workers. We are being sold out by big business.  I think its funny when you wonder who will buy all these foreign products when every job in America is gone for the middle class. Michigan is not in a resession they are in a DEPRESSION. I don't want Inspiration.  If Americans stop buying this Country will fail.  The housing market was keeping us afloat.  It is gone. We are in a Ressesion.  No I don't want Inspiration.  Bush and Bernachi are going to give a 100 bil dollar incentive package so the common folk will spend money and keep the ecomony afloat.  I do not want 300 dollars I want the American jobs back. No Inspiration will not do it for me.
MSNBC editirs, pls stop placing only negative comments about Hillary! Can't you just play fair????
That's right, all you Hatemongering Hillary Bashers, keep it up: all the way to HER Inauguration Day, thank-you very much! Hillary For President!!!

Cathy, Upstate NY (Sent Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:43 PM)


And if she wins, don't think we are not going away...
Just like in sports....
We'll have a four year guaranteed contract....

jerry/corpus christi texas



You think Hillary would last that long? Two years, tops, before resigning. She'd be fine, but she would have to do something to get Bill out of the White House after he totally loses control over himself. No intern would be safe.
Hillary's 35 years of experience starts with her in grad school. She is so egotistial that she thinks EVERYTHING she has ever done in her life qualifies her to be president. She never discusses graduating at the bottom of her class at Yale or failing the bar exams. She never discusses that she had no security clearance and no accountable position.

She is a crook and a lier and I am a female, democrat, with a Ph.D. from Yale and I won't vote for her even if she gets the nomination. She is going to drag the women's movement back 20 years when she fails, it will be very hard to elect another female, even one who was a the top of her class and didn't marry her way into politics.

Don't vote for EVITA!  Don't buy the tears
Hillary is very focused, determined and calculating. I don't agree with her, much, about policy but I admire her work ethic and determination. I'm not sure why we have to fault her for having more than one mood. If we wanted someone with only one mood we would have nominated AlGore 8 years ago. Let's stop thinking about Hillary as a woman, and remember she is a candidate for President. She's done an outstanding job representing the State of New York. She's a hard worker. Decide if you want her to be your President based on her politics, not her moods.  


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