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Hillary's change in tone

Posted: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:57 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ’s Athena Jones
SANTA BARBARA, Calif. -- Clinton took the long view Thursday night. She looked past the Nevada caucuses two days away, past the South Carolina primary a week later, past Super Tuesday, the convention and even past Nov. 2008.

In a speech to a room filled with mostly college students, Clinton imagined aloud what America could look like a generation from now and asked the audience to help her make it a reality.

"I want you to imagine what you want our country and our world to look like in, say, 25 years," she said, joking that while it may seem like a long time to the college students in the crowd, it's like the "blink of an eye to some of us.

"In 25 years, I hope that we'll be in a more peaceful and prosperous world where more people feel that they have a stake in their own future. Where their voices are heard and listened to by the leaders of the countries in which they live. That we will have tackled the big global challenges that confront us from global terrorists to global warming to global epidemics."

The speech was in stark contrast to what audiences were hearing just a few weeks ago from a senator who has admitted that she sometimes gets too "wonky." Whereas the focus on the stump in Iowa and New Hampshire often seemed to be on long lists of the problems America faces and were sometimes described as "downers" by the journalists assigned to cover them, Thursday night Clinton laid out an optimistic vision for the future that drew sustained cheers and applause from the young audience.

She spent less time talking about "change", or at least used the word "change" much less frequently than she did on the stump in the final days in Iowa, when Hillary as change-agent was the running theme. Tonight "the future" seemed to have replaced "change" in the stump speech motif and it will be interesting to see how this new theme evolves.

"Starting on January 20th 2009, we've got to jumpstart the future. We've got to move forward with a commitment to solving our problems," the senator said. "If you're willing to make that journey into the future with me we will make history together." 

The senator imagined an America that would no longer have a carbon-based economy, where there would be more locally produced food and greater transparency in government, where teachers would be among the most respected citizens, the immigration controversy would be a thing of the past because comprehensive immigration reform would have been achieved and where universal healthcare would have been in place for at least 20 years so that students at a school like this one studying the year 2008 would look at one another and say "what's an uninsured American?"

Not surprisingly, some of her biggest applause came when she spoke of an America where there would be no financial hurdles to any motivated person who wants an education.

The speech wasn't all positive. Clinton talked about the challenges presented by the war in Iraq, her concerns about the state of the U.S. economy and addressed her critics, but the overall tone was a lot less gloom and doom and a lot more inspirational sounding than in the past. One wonders if she's trying to take a page out of Barack Obama's playbook.

During the question and answer session, Clinton was asked how she felt about Obama and she seized on the chance to draw a distinction between her management style his, reiterating her argument the president has to be both the CEO and the COO of the country. 

"I think he has already made and will continue to make important contributions to America and to our future, but I see the presidency differently than he does. You know, he gave an interview a few days ago in which very honestly said 'look, he doesn't think it's the president's responsibility to manage the government," she said. "I think the president has to run the government and manage the economy and has to be held accountable."

And a week after her chief opponents, particularly John Edwards, set out to paint her as a symbol of the status quo,  (In a shout out with Clinton supporters at one New Hampshire polling place, Edwards and Obama supporters could be heard chanting "Hey, hey, Ho, ho. Status quo has got to go!")  Clinton answered her critics by redirecting the attack toward Republicans.

"There's a lot of talk in this election about the status quo well the status quo is what George Bush and the Bush Republicans have done to our country. The status quo is accepting that we can't be energy independent, accepting that we can't do anything about global warming, accepting that our healthcare system is dysfunctional and we have to live with it, accepting that our education system can continue to be buffeted by No Child Left Behind and all these other government programs that don't do a thing to help anybody. You know, America is never about the status quo. America is always about the future," she said.

When asked by one young person what she would have youth do, Clinton talked about the importance of being part of the effort to fight global warming and having healthy habits.

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Hmmmm, I guess the college students in California are more specialer than the students in Iowa. Yeah, that's it.
good job, Hillary.  I've already voted the primary for you.  GO HILLARY
Yes, yes... Hillary changing her voice to whatever she thinks people want to hear this week.  Saying a lot but actually saying very little.

Just say No to Hillary in '08
As a young voter who only knows the policies of a Bush or a Clinton, I can assure Senator Clinton that I look forward to a future clear of Bill and Hillary's self-centered "leadership" and divisive politics.  

An America without the Bushes and the Clintons will be a beautiful place.
An Obama supporter, I would be very surprised if Nevadans don't go with the status quo and vote for Hillary.

One thing not discussed by the pundits is that like Iowa, Nevada has a 15% threshold which Edwards may NOT meet in many precincts.

Will his labor support join the Obama labor support or will his people not buy into Obama's more abstract argument for a different kind of politics?
WITH A DEMOCRAT AS PRESIDENT THERE WOULD BE NO US IN 25 YEARS  OUR SOLDIERS ARE ALREADY MAKING OTHER PLANS IF A DEM IS ELECTED   CAN YOU BLAME THEM   ALL YOU YELLOW BELLIED DEMS PRAYING FOR THEM TO LOSE THE WAR  AND CAUSING THE DEATH OF MANY WHEN CALLING FOR A WITHDRAW WHICH MAKES THE ENEMY FIGHT HARDER. I HATE YOU COWARDS.
It is possible to do some of the things that Clinton talked about.  It requires, as far as I am aware, a lot of people to move forward and cooperate across party lines.  I don't know if that is going to happen all the time though.  I believe that it requires some businesses to cut their self protection and spread out and give back to the communities across the country and world.  Oil companies have had record profits but have failed to do anything constructive with them.  Oh, I know someone is going to say that they are rewarding their stockholders, but that isn't enough given that we live in an interconnected world.  
FirstRead is buying this junk from the Queen of False Hopes?

So NOW she wants to talk in poetry?  

LAME LAME LAME
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER?  WHEN BILL WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT AND THEY HAD JUST FINISHED SHAKING HANDS WITH HUNDREDS, HILLARY WAS HEARD LAUGHING AND TELLING BILL WE JUST SCREWED ALL THOSE PEOPLE.  VERIFIED BY A LOCAL TV STATION NEWSMAN OVERHEAD IT.  SHE WILL BE SAYING WE JUST SCREWED AMERICA AGAIN
I would really, like to see any of the candidates have a plan to get Americas kids healthy. I would like to go back to the days when we were all proud to get the President's Physical Fitness patch.  Make schools have a manatory 5 days a week phys ed program.  I was shocked to find out that phys ed in some of the schools in NY is not mandatory.  Make carbinated soft drinks outlawed in the school districts.  Obesity, and all of the problems that go with it, has become a huge issue with our population.  Getting people healthy will save us billions in the long run.  I think Hillary mentioning Healthy habits for our youth is a good step, but she should go farther.  
If she said that about being CEO and COO of the country, that one might come back to haunt her, should she win the nomination. I think she meant CEO and COO of the executive branch of government, not the country. Of course, a lot of Republicans will believe she means the country.
WHO CARE ABOUT HILLARY....SHE IS A LIAR AND A FAKE....SHE WOULD SELL HER
SOUL TO THE DEVIL IF IT MEANT SHE WOULD GET ELECTED.....SHE DISTORTS OTHERS
RECORDS BECAUSE SHE CAN'T RUN ON HER OWN...

"Hillary Clinton has sponsored 350 bills since Jan 22, 2001, of which 304
haven't made it out of committee (Very Poor) and 2 were successfully enacted
(Average, relative to peers)."

SHE IS ONE ACCOMPLISH POLITICIAN....AND HER RECORDS SHOWS IT
There's our message of hope. Bravo
NO-bama can't,
YES Hillary CAN!
She is so inspirational, honest, warm and intelligent! Hillary is the future!

HUSSEIN OBAMA IS OLD SCHOOL -

CLINTON IS COOL!
She is so inspirational, honest, warm and intelligent! Hillary is the future!

HUSSEIN OBAMA IS OLD SCHOOL -

CLINTON IS COOL!
This is how she needs to campaign.
She has excellent ideas, but people can go on her website and find out all the details.
She's convinced the electorate that she's a policy wonk, so now it's time to inspire.
And good for her for acknowledging Obama's inspiring contribution to our "family."
I "hope" she keeps this up.  
Oh please....here she goes again selling herself.  Sometimes she seems like nothing but a well paid prostitute.  She is so very transparent...but she actually believes she is pulling the wool over our eyes.  Haven't we already done the Clintons...and for that matter the Busch's?  Isn't is time for America to move on?
Oh please....here she goes again selling herself.  Sometimes she seems like nothing but a well paid prostitute.  She is so very transparent...but she actually believes she is pulling the wool over our eyes.  Haven't we already done the Clintons...and for that matter the Busch's?  Isn't is time for America to move on?
The venue limited to about 1000 at University of California, Santa Barbara, was a bad choice, if not a huge blunder.

Just as many undecided college student voters may have just decided on Obama because they were needlessly shut out of the Hillary event. Most were undecided, based on my many video interviews a couple of hours prior to the doors opening.

The Hillary campaign wanted a smallish venue, but a crowd of 1000 can yell out questions as well as a crowd of 5000, especially when only 5 questions get answered anyway.

I was there. This account by the student newspaper is quite accurate.
http://www.dailynexus.com/article.php?a=15506

Hillary is my third choice so far, but I would comment no matter which candidate campaign decided on the overly small venue.
If she stays in the race, and by some miracle becomes the President, I don't want to imagine our country in 25 years.  It's bad enough it will take half that time to clean up W's mess.  Then add on her mess, and we will never get out of this rut.

Vote for postive improvement.  Vote Obama.
JUST SAW WHERE CHRIS MATTHEWS RATINGS WENT WAY UP THIS LAST MONTH.  JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE HATE THE CLINTONS.  HILLARY IS THE ONLY THING HE HAS BEEN RIGHT ON.  EVEN SOME REPUBS LIKE ME WATCH HIM NOW
Perhaps Hillary will still running for president in 25 years (I can always hope). I can just imagine an 85 year old woman talking about her...quick do the math...60 years of experience.
Too little too late for this voter.
What change of tone?  MSNBC is worst than Fox with the likes of Chris Matthews bobbing head.  Chris has obvious problems with women.  He shows his malice and prejudice everytime he opens his mouth. Do women in office really threaten his manhood that much?  This man needs to get off the air. He makes the sponsors look very bad to consumers.  Sponsores who pay for his prejduce against women.  How about talking about the issues?  
"In 25 years ..."
--It's nice that she leaves enough time for another President to actually get in there, like Barack Obama, and actually change something.  Unless she is starting to buy into the Bush/Clinton dynasties ...
--What's interesting is that she mentioned even less than B.H. Obama does about what she is going to do to effect change.


" ...where universal healthcare would have been in place for at least 20 years ..."
Hmmm, 25 years into the future minus 20 years = 1 year into the next elected President's term after Hillary Clinton, because of her polarizing nature, fails to pass universal healthcare during her potential dynastic term.



Can't find Hillary Clinton's Social Security plan? Her education plan? Her healthcare plan? How about immigration?

Lookie here:

http://www.barackobama.com
http://www.joebiden.com/home
http://johnedwards.com/splash/
CitizenJ (Sent Monday, October 29, 2007 5:35 PM)
Another reference on the bad choice of venue for Hillary in Santa Barbara:
http://independent.com/news/2008/jan/18/hillary-clinton-rallies-ucsb/
The comments may start building there at the local newspaper, Santa Barbara Independent.

(editor can add to my prior comment)
Yes, let's look into the future 25 years by going back 16. Makes a whole lot of sense. Obama and Edwards need to team-up to play two-on-two with Billary. Hillary wins the primary, she's loses the general because she loses the youth vote that is going heavily to Obama, but will likely stay home in the general. Sames goes with independents, wayward Republicans, and me, a progressive.
Hillary '08 - A Lose Lose Situation
[[[In a speech to a room filled with mostly college students, Clinton imagined aloud what America could look like a generation from now and asked the audience to help her make it a reality.]]]

A socialist utopia?

Hillary channels Karl Marx.

If the college students have any brains, they'll vote for someone else.
She is brilliant and inspiring, always has been.  Her message, her vision, has not changed.  I don't think your analysis that she's 'changed her tone' is accurate ,and titling the article with that phrase is less than complimentary. Using the word 'tone' conjures up stereotypical notions about the sound of a woman's voice.  Her TONE is just fine.  Her message inspiring.
GUESS WHAT GOOD NEWS FOR ALL YOU DRUGGIE DEMS, BUSH YOUR HATER IS GIVING EVERYONE 500 TO 800 DOLLARS TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY.  THE REPUBS WILL SPEND THEIRS ON FAMILY AND DEMS ON DRUGS WHICH WILL STIMULATE THE DRUG TADE. I HATE THE YELLOW BELLIED BABY KILLERS, SOLDIER HATERS, WELFARE DRUGGIE DEMS.
The future...... hmmmm.....time for a new campaign slogan for Hilary... Back To The Future....
"The senator imagined an America that would no longer have a carbon-based economy,"
It would be replaced with a carbon based government you could watch leave jet streams in the sky as you walk for your ration of fresh water, and rice.

"Where there would be more locally produced food." Yep work farms because Liberals on the Supreme court took private property away from the people.  Nanny knows best.

"greater transparency in government" .............. kind of like the UN I'm guessing.

"where teachers would be among the most respected citizens." Yeah those re-education camps are going to demand respect.

"immigration controversy would be a thing of the past." Yep everyone would be trying to get out kind like Baltimore and New Jersey now.

"universal healthcare would have been in place for at least 20 years."
Would operate a lot like Cuba. Doctors would make more money driving a cab. Neighbors would rat you out because you spoke out against the party.

"students at a school like this one studying the year 2008 would look at one another and say "what's an uninsured American?"
WRONG it would be more like "What's an American?" We're all now citizens of the world. That national pride crap was wrong. We made other countries "feel bad" because we were proud of our country.
hillary is not only the most experienced candidate and the candidate most prepared to be president on day one, BUT she also has real vision for the future with specific goals.  obama is all style.  hillary is substance with style.  
Hillary IS the queen of change...ing her positions.

She's had fifteen different campaign slogans over the past year.  Nothing sticks.  She changes the slogan to match the mood of the week.  How about we elect a candidate with some principles... a candidate that KNOWS what their slogan will be in 25 years.  If Hillary can change slogans 15 times over the course of a year, God only knows where we'll be in -8- years if she somehow makes it past the Republicans in November... nevermind where we'll be in -25- years!
Universal Healthcare, Universal preK, Universal citizenship, and Universal socialism - you don't even have to be an American aren't Democrats great!
I have a son who is an officer in the Marines. Hope the nutcase who is claiming the "military has plans if a Dem becomes president" understands in his sad little mind that he is very likely NOT privy to what the military has in mind.

The military is sworn to uphold our Constitution. Elections are run per the rule of our Constitution. Their members are honor-bound, and the most honorable of Americans. They will do their job.

Please, Republicans, try to open your eyes and see what the Bush years have done to us. Dishonesty and criminality in the highest offices of the country are rampant. A deaf ear is turned to good ideas. The economy is headed to ruin. Greed is everywhere. Those who oppose these things are reviled as wrong-headed.

There are fine ideas and possibilities in the Republican camp ... and in the Democratic camp, as well. Let's look for the best we can find...but let's remember that experience, strength, level-headedness and a vision for the future matter.

I support Hillary Clinton for these values and reasons. But other good candidates are available. They , too, will rise to the occasion and be far better than what we have received in the last few years. Let's go forward and choose one within the framework of our Constitution. Let's just be Americans together, again.

CL Conway
HILLARY ALL THE WAY !!!!!! YOU GO GIRL !!!!
Everything about this Presidential race makes me so sad for the American people. Unfortunately, we may end up getting what we deserve. I really wanted to believe that Americans wouldn't put up with, or fall for, pandering and "win at all costs" campaigning.
If the general election ends up being Romney vs. Clinton, the U.S. will need some new bumper stickers — "Presidential Election 2008: Lie to us, and we'll reward you for it."
David Anders - shame on you characterizing Democrats as cowards. There are Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines and Coastguardsmen all over the globe who are Democrats and are, even at this moment, defending the Costitution, you and your right to spew hate. Whether you deserve it or not
Just what plans are the military making if dems win?  A military coup perhaps?  And whom do they plan to put in the whitehouse?
There will be no us in 25 years if a dem is elected?  Gee, let's remember what happened under 8 years of Bill Clinton:
Relative peace
worldwide respect
balanced budget
good economy
more jobs each year
family leave act passed
welfare reform passed
bipartisan cooperation in congress.....

Horrors!  just CAN'T IMAGINE going thru all that again!
Reading some of your comments is what relly concerns me!  Ignorant youth and this is our future???  I bet the guy who claims our soldieers are dying didn't even serve in the armed forces!  I did and I'm a woman.  Get a life buddy.....
David Anders, Pharr Tx - DON'T BE HATIN. Oh, I missed the part that you're a hypocite repub. What bible you preaching from today?
pitiful attempt by hilary to make herself sound like a visionary
WoW !!
She didn't mention cocaine ?

This IS a new Hillary !!
Just like the 'New Nixon' (or Sir Richard'

So she had her staff voter test a new line ?
Deep Thinking Hillary .....

RIGHT !
How about crooked, gutter fighting Hillary ?
Or is that Bill doing that job ?

Just say no to female impersonators
Question about Obama - I had read when he was sworn in as Governor, He would not put his hand on the bible
nor does he believe in God?  Doesn't out currency say IN GOD We Trust, and the Pledge of Alegiance states, ONE NATION UNDER GOD......
When men start having children we can say they can multi task more than women, in the meantime we need a woman that can handle the job. Lets give Women a chance to make a difference and Hillary will do it because she has experience, compasion, passion, conviction and perserverance. Probably the best president we will ever have!
If you look at the comments to articles in the Nevada papers - Obama is experiencing just as much vitrol as Hillary.  People do not like him there.  There is quite a backlash from the Judge's ruling to stay out of the dispute rather than decide because it is a Democrat Party decision.  People are really mad about the work-site caucuses and are feeling enormously intimidated by their employers, captains and union to vote a certain way.  If Obama wins, his victory will be suspicious.  But it is looking doubtful.  The comments indicate that the Latinos that the propaganda is aimed at are quite angry.
Will the circle-jerk be unbroken...?
Will the circle-jerk be unbroken...?


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