Another day, another example of how Hillary Clinton has no intellectual integrity.  Barack Obama did not say that Republicans had better ideas, but instead said that Republicans had been less afraid to challenge the CW relative to Democrats over the past decade(something that is really hard to refute, and something two old Clinton hands Paul Begala and James Carvillege said in their book after the 2004 election, which basically argued Democrats have to grow a pair and stop pandering and parroting the CW).  

As usual....Hillary twists Obama's words around.
She really should be ashamed.

Oh, please. Anyone who reads Obama's statement without bias will easily understand that he was speaking about history, not ideology. Can anyone deny that Reagan changed politics in America? We can argue if it was for better or worse (and Obama didn't speak to that at all), but the facts are pretty undeniable. Just as it's pretty undeniable that Bill Clinton--good president though he was--did NOT change America or the way politics works in any noticeable way.

If Hillary by some miraculous lining up of the planets was to become president, it is clear she would not be and has no desire to be a transformational president.

WHO CARE ABOUT HILLARY....SHE IS A LIAR AND A FAKE....SHE WOULD SELL HER
SOUL TO THE DEVIL IF IT MEANT SHE WOULD GET ELECTED.....SHE DISTORTS OTHERS
RECORDS BECAUSE SHE CAN'T RUN ON HER OWN...

"Hillary Clinton has sponsored 350 bills since Jan 22, 2001, of which 304
haven't made it out of committee (Very Poor) and 2 were successfully enacted
(Average, relative to peers)."

SHE IS ONE ACCOMPLISH POLITICIAN....AND HER RECORDS SHOWS IT

Hillary is dumb or a liar. Obama didn't say anything  like this:

"My leading opponent the other day said that he thought the Republicans had better ideas than Democrats the last 10 to 15 years. ....."

What Obama said was the opposite, that republican (stupid) ideas have been tried and haven't worked:

"And, you know, the Republican approach, I think, has played itself out. I think it’s fair to say the Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last ten, fifteen years, in the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom. Now, you’ve heard it all before. You look at the economic policies when they’re being debated among the Presidential candidates and it’s all tax cuts.  Well, you know, we’ve done that, we tried it.”

Hil is only mad because once the economic stim plan works she will have nothing to say on the economy! Her housing idea is a joke. People bought houses they cant afford. thats their own fault. Obama was right Reagan was a change agent. he did a lot of good. The next president will too...too bad for both obama and clinton it wont be them. They have no experience!!!!

Obama is the one that knows Dems alone can not elect a President. Hilary and Edwards represent what is wrong with American politics. To call Obama a traitor because he would dare to say something positive about Reagan proves deadlock will continue if either one (Edwards or Clinton) is elected. Obama (not my choice) at least can curb his rhetoric enough to embrace the fact that Reagan was an outsider when people wanted something different. Also Bill Clinton did not change these horrible polocies HRC is talking about. Give Obama credit for reaching asross the aisle(however little) this is more than the other two are willing to do. This is what it will take to win in November

  A much more insightful piece can be found in The Guardian, Remembering Reagan by Richard Adams. Summary: "In making historical parallels, Barack Obama came not to praise Ronald Reagan but to bury the Clintons." It also contains this, as a matter of interest: "Ronald Reagan of course died in 2004. And when he did, he was praised "for the way he personified the indomitable optimism of the American people", a statement issued by - you guessed it - Bill and Hillary Clinton."
Arg

There goes Hillary Clinton distorting Barack Obama's comments again.  Barack Obama did nowhere claim that Republicans had the best ideas, in fact, he's essentially arguing that Democrats should vote for him, because he's going to bring the Democratic party to prominence with ideas again--his Democratic ideas and CHANGE the direction of the country.

Quit lying (or at the very least stretching the truth) girl.  Both Ronald Reagan and JFK were change agents--and that's bipartisan historical fact, whether partisan liberals agree with their changes or not.


Barack Obama, quit telling the truth!  People don't understand it when politicians don't lie.

We are tired of trusting the same people who have been a great part of the problems we are having in this country to fix those same problems they helped to creat in woshington.

If you helped in starting this war in Iraq through your vote in woshington, you were wrong when it counted the most. That is your expirience. If you have been part of the fights that divided this country and woshington and helped deny the people well intended bills like good health care for everyone, you were wrong when it counted the most. That is your expirience. If you have more favours to give to special interests and lobbyists in woshington because they are fighting for you in this campaign; you are wrong when it counts the most. That is your expirience. If you believe in the bush foreign policy of doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, you are wrong when it counts the most. That is your expirience. If you are scared to say or do the right thing even when it's unpopular, as a leader, you are wrong.

Expirience is like a real view mirror and while it shows us where you have been, it can't and shouldn't be used to tell us where we are going without good judgement; we can't look back to the future if we have to go forward to the future. We need a new leader with the right judgement, and the right expirience; a leader who will inspire us to unite for a common cause; who will do the right things when they count the most rather than do the wrong things and look for a chance to fix everything later. We have seen the cost of a broken system in blood, and poverty and in many other ways that we can't and shouldn't be scared of a new day. A better day. We need to know that Yes. we. can. If we have the courage to change. Obama 08.

In the meantime, if you're tired of politics as usually, come visit www.barackobama.com. He's got new plans listed for the economy and the war in Iraq. Come take a look and see if you'd like to be a part of the people's MOVEMENT for change!

Finally some passion!!! This is what a lot of people have wanted to see from her for a while...

This shows she wants it, and that she's not going to be swept under the rug by Obama or the Media....

There goes Hillary Lieing again! Does it ever stop? Alan Greenspan called Bill Clinton, The Best Republican President in his lifetime.

I guess Barack struck both their nerves when he pulled the Knockout punch last night.

Barack Obama for President!!!

Senator Obama was not in the Senate when the Original Patriot Act was voted on...But you do you who was in the Senate and voted for the Original Patriot Act....Hillary
Now let me continue to further educate you.....Senator Obama voted for the revised version of the Patriot Act...in fact, he was part of a filibuster of the original version...And do you know why this filibuster was done....Answer:  He was trying to get civil liberties placed in the Patriot Act.....(Your Candidate "The Clintons" where okay with the original version because they never bothered to read it) And so once the reversions were place in the Patriot Act and only then is when Senator Obama voted for it.......

Senator Obama voted for funding the war.....Now maybe you look at this as a problem....But I and like many Americans look at this for what it actually is...The soldiers did not make the choice to go to war, it was the likes of Hillary Clintons that made that choice for them......but since our solider are over there fighting an unnecessary war we must keep them safe and protected...Or would you rather that not happen..

And now we find out that she voted for both of the Bankrupcy bills....But she was glad one of the bills didn't pass "“This was a bill she voted for in 2001 and that the credit card companies and the banks had been pushing to make it harder for people to get out of debt and reduce the 30-percent interest on the credit cards and folks had been going bankrupt for it,” he said. “She was asked about it by Tim Russert and she said, ‘Oh I voted for it but I’m glad to see that it didn’t pass"

Edwards and Clinton are learning the hard way Obama can do and say no wrong.They will end up being called racist.

linton Twists, Obama Flips

January 18, 2008 5:33 PM

Here's the full context of what Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, told the editorial board of the Reno Gazette-Journal, in which he had the temerity to assert that Republicans don't necessarily have cloven hooves.

Asked how his being the nominee might help down-ballot candidates, such as Senators and Congressmen, get elected, he said: "If I'm the nominee, one thing I'm convinced about, I will have a better chance of bringing in people of like mind. One of the things I'm very proud of in this campaign is I think we've already changed the political dialogue. I mean, you think about it, you know, when Mitt Romney starts talking like me. Right? Which wasn't the case when he started off. But suddenly everyone's ...'Change.' And you have someone like a Huckabee who is doing very well, basically taking a similar tone of, 'Well, we can disagree without being disagreeable.'

"I think that we're shifting the political paradigm here. And if I'm the nominee, I think I can bring a lot of folks along on my coattails. You know, there's a reason why in 2006, I made the most appearances for members of Congress. I was the most requested surrogate to come in and campaign for people in districts that were swing districts, Republican districts where they wouldn't have any other Democrat.

"That was based on their read of the fact that, you know what, this is somebody who can reach out to independents and Republicans in a way that doesn't offend people…I don't want to present myself as some sort of singular figure. I think part of what's different are the times.

"I do think that, for example, the 1980 election was different. I mean, I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that, you know, Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it. They felt like, you know, with all the excesses of the 60's and the 70's and government had grown and grown but there wasn't much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating and he tapped into what people were already feeling. Which is, people wanted clarity, we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamic and entrepreneurship that had been missing, alright? I think Kennedy, twenty years earlier, moved the country in a fundamentally different direction. So I think a lot of it just has to do with the times.

"I think we're in one of those times right now. Where people feel like things as they are going aren't working. We're bogged down in the same arguments that we've been having, and they're not useful. And, you know, the Republican approach, I think, has played itself out. I think it's fair to say the Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last ten, fifteen years, in the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom. Now, you've heard it all before. You look at the economic policies when they're being debated among the Presidential candidates and it's all tax cuts. Well, you know, we've done that, we tried it. That's not really going to solve our energy problems, for example. So, some of it's the times. And some of it's, I think, there's maybe a generation element to this, partly. In the sense that there's a, I didn't did come of age in the battles of the 60's. I'm not as invested in them.

"And so I think I talk differently about issues. And I think I talk differently about values. And that's why, I think we've been resonating with the American people." Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, has taken one section of this and totally mischaracterized it to say that Obama was saying Republicans had "better" ideas.

"I have to say, you know, my leading opponent the other day said that he thought the Republicans had better ideas than Democrats the last ten to fifteen years," she said. "That's not the way I remember the last ten to fifteen years."

One can argue that Obama, during a heated primary, shouldn't give his opponents such easy opportunities to twist his words. And maybe that's a rookie mistake - as with his attempt to actually answer the question at the Vegas debate when asked his greatest weakness.

But that doesn't mean we should let the twisters of his words off the hook. Because that's being complicit in dishonesty.

Turning from dishonesty to hypocrisy.

jeez - the Clinton campaign is in full panic and attack mode.  

Obama didn't say the repubs had better ideas - he just said that the republicans were the "party of ideas in challenging conventional wisdom".  How you slant this into saying that Obama has embraced republican ideas is amazing.

Obama is the more progressive candidate than Sen. Clinton - you can check her congressional voting record versus his.

If I'm reading Obama's quote correctly, and like to think that I am, he doesn't say what HRC says he is saying.  This kind of spin - injecting what the Clinton camp wants people to believe other people are saying - is fairly typical of Clinton camp's latest  modus operandi.

Context is everything.  Let the candidates speak for themselves.

The Reno Newspaper Conversation was turned into a Video and was one of the most impressive and "open" conversations I have seen Barack participate in......he was sitting around a table of several newspaper reporters and answering questions truthfully......Senator Clinton had her chance with the same newspaper and it was a "controlled" video interview with only one newspaper reporter.  Truth vs. script.....which one do we want for america.

Ok, I used to support the Clintons, but now there is just too much blatant false stories they stir up in reference to Obama.

He NEVER SAID THAT! He just pointed out how JFK, and Regan was accepted because they were not afraid to cross the lines to make things work. Now Regan of course is not a favorite of mine, but he did do things that other politicians that were running against him was not willing to do. And that was have a open mind.

Do Hilary really think her "Bush" tactics will work in the long run? You know the tactics were you openly lie to the masses although they can easily find the truth from a simple Google search.  

If Obama some how does not end up with the nomination I am voting for any third party on the ballet.

Do all Obama supporters belong to some weird cult. That will drink battery acid one day when Obama orders them to.

Hillary sure bellows a lot for someone that doesn't have a clue.

You've got to really respect Obama's honesty.  He's absolutely not afraid to say what he believes, whereas his opponent runs every word through her pollsters to help her figure out what to say.  

It'll be really refreshing if voters will select the 2 most honest candidates (Obama and McCain) or if they're going to go w/ the poll-driven ones who'll say anything to get elected (Clinton and Romney).

A desperate move to twist the words of an intelligent and honest conversation.  Those who watched the interview know that Obama did not praise Reagan or Republican ideas.  He simply said what had happened in the past.  Nowhere in that whole video did I hear praise republicans or Reagan.

Hillary Who?


Obama 08

OMG!!

RONALD REAGAN, give us all a break, what next Barry Goldwater!

Obama's gambit at damage control.

This is nothing more than a "make them think about this" political ploy, to try and diffuse the second political gaff, in almost as many days by Obama.  First saying he is a disorganized hands off Presidential candidate.  Then talking about Ronald Reagan, being a fundamental agent of change agent.... Ronald Reagan did more to undermine working people, and the middle class than than the present GWB could ever dream of... It's unbelievable that Obama would use his as a platform for his message of change.  

Both gaffs **highlight** Obama's real lack of understanding... Then there is his church minister, yeah that's right Obama's Church Minster who married Obama, coming out and embracing Louis Farrakhan, this is not Obama's fault, but is Obama so naive to believe that this is not "nitroglycerin" in the hands of republicans...

All of it....  His self proclaimed disorganized approach to leadership, then Ronald Reagan, and now his place of worship embracing Louis Farrakhan....

*I want my vote to count,* I have been leaning back and fourth between Hillary Clinton and Obama, and I have not excluded Edwards, when push comes to shove...  But I am beginning to see Obama's amateurish self destructiveness really taking center stage....  At this point I do not see him being able to handle the Republicans.  They will take his "Zen" message of change/uniter and serve him for a light appetizer on the Republican attack machines table... Sorry folks he just doesn't have it, he will not survive on "training wheels" against the Republicans.

For sure my vote will go to Clinton or Edwards, in the primary.  At this point, I am beginning to wonder if Obama is going to become a liability even as VP on the ticket.  He gives great speech's so did Ronald Reagan.  

Ronald Reagan took health care away from the Elderly, College tuition was virtually free at the UNIV of CALIFORNIA, he increased tuition in the state dramatically, he also took money away from student loans, and on top of that added additional student loan disbursement fees, in the hundreds of dollars.  

He pointed to mostly single mothers on welfare, as being drunkards and to hear him say it were bankrupting the country.  The welfare budget was 1% of the national budget, just more Republican (BS) of beating up on little people who could not defend themselves.

He busted unions, gave massive tax cuts to top 1% of  richest Americans, and gave every penny he could rake and scrape out of the middle class to defense contractors.  

He wasn't allowed to answerer questions on his own because of his lack of really understanding issues, he sleep in the White House, during meetings.... It's endless, of what a truly disaster of a President he was, with regard to everyday working people.  He was a good speaker, a great salesman, but a terrible President for working people...

I'm insulted that Obama chooses "Reaganism" as a platform to speak to, or try to crystallize his message of change.  Obama's an amateur and the Republicans are licking their chops at the prospect of running against him.  

Someone is giving Obama a very stupid advice, instead of calling those people political JJC,you all are trying to blame Hilary. What exactly did Reagan do for the people of this country, there is a reason the people of PA abandone rupublican till today. I remember grown white men weep badly on TV who worked for steel  industry. Reagen is great for Republicans, Obama is desperate for republican votes, it is sad. If he wants to advance republican's ideas, should he run in democratic party. Lastly, democractic party need to be careful or else they will elect our candidate and there own candidate and in the end guess who they will vote for. Obama has revealed his winning stategy, it is very dangerous for the democratic party.

Me think's i'm about to start shedding a few tear's, it worked in New Hampshire, hell, who knows, maybe people in Nevada are Naive also.

SHE SHOULD WATCH THE ENTIRE VIDEO BEFORE CRITICIZING. What is her plan to win 49 states like Reagan did against her endorsers Mondale/Ferraro in 1984. What has she done to inspire people to serve like JFK. Does she have a 'New Deal' like FDR.

Afternoon with Barack Obama
Video ---http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080115/VIDEO/80115026&oaso=news.rgj.com/breakingnews

http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=3284

Barack Obama Meets Chronicle Editorial Board --Jan 17, 2008
http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1381682549

LOL!
I just love how Obama supporters get so pissed off! LOVE IT!
GO HILLARY!
we are not going to let some teenagers (who can't even vote) to inject so much hatred into this campaign. when the election comes, they'll still be sitting at their home computers, blogging away, cause most of them can't even vote. HA_HA

Well this takes the cake. Senator Obama needs to refresh his history. President Reagon did the Iran-Conta move before President Carter left office...to build his public image. He coined the phrase.."welfare queen". He cut funds for mental health....creating millions of street people who are abused and neglected. He gave tax cuts to the rich...who profited off the crash of the Unions...demoralizing the blue collar worker and lowering wages all over the USA. He despised the black movement and cut funds in all areas of education, health and welfare. President Nixon deserves equal or as much credit for the fall of the USSR as is given to Reagan. His economic policy has been proven false over and over again. He was an elitist who wouldnt allow other to express different opinions. And now we have this Senator ....saying that President Reagan changed the country. He sure did....it was the beginning of the destruction of the middle class. Senator Obama is an egotistical,intellectual, air-head. This interview just proves it to me. He reminds me of a twenty something...or maybe late teens....who think they have all the answers to life. He demonstrates gross immaturity. Good grief....save us from him.

Thank heavens 15 of my work collegues today stated that they are no longer supporting Obama and will now support Clinton!  I expect more to choose the same.

The thing is I don't understand wht it seems as if democrats are hesitant to nominate him. His ideas seem to me all about where he wants to take the democratic party vs. 'look at what we achieved in the past for the party'notion. As a foreigner, I always like the democrats' stand on the war but it seems as if they have no resolve or principle to actually take charge/control of what they belive in, no matter how unpopular it might be today( tommorrow may be different). So hesitant democrats, I ask you why do you hesitate?

Can someone please tell me how she gets this:

"My leading opponent the other day said that he thought the Republicans had better ideas than Democrats the last 10 to 15 years. That's not the way I remember the last 10 to 15 years."

out of this:

"And, you know, the Republican approach, I think, has played itself out. I think it’s fair to say the Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last ten, fifteen years, in the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom."

That is some serious extrapolation.  Giving one's opponent some credit if that credit is due is nothing but, statesman-like and mature.  Still, nowhere in there does he say Republicans had better ideas that Democrats.

As usual, Senator Clinton stays stuck in the wars and ways of the past.  The tires are spinning and we're up to the axle.

This guy Obama is sounding better all the time! Hillary is clearly yesterday's news!

Go, Obama, go!

The woman is shameless. Obama never said any such thing.

This has reached absolutely ridiculous proportions. I've reached the point of thinking Hillary Clinton is so disingenuous she shouldn't be in any public office, no matter how large or small.

Endorsement: Obama embodies party’s vision  1/17
Nevada Democrats should caucus for Barack Obama, the freshman U.S. senator from Illinois, to represent them as the party’s nominee to run for president of the United States. He has the personal characteristics and political instincts expected of the person who leads this nation.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?&Dato=20080117&Kategori=NEWS18&Lopenr=80117041&Ref=AR

Afternoon with Barack Obama
Video ---http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080115/VIDEO/80115026&oaso=news.rgj.com/breakingnews

http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=3284


Barack Obama Meets Chronicle Editorial Board --Jan 17, 2008
http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1381682549

Brillant Sen. Obama! He recognizes that in order for him to win, he will need to build aliances with other voters other than democrates. Hillary could never do that. I'm a democrate who fully supports Sen. Obama. In the event he does not win the nomination, I would never vote for Hillary. She has 35 years of experience being a Gov. and a Presidents' wife. She has done NOTHING ELSE! Her canidacy is just Bills attempt to get another shot at being Presidne and she is his best chance to get it. He needs a legacy other than committing adultry in the oval office(literaly).

Reagan would kick Bill's arse in a hypothetical election matchup.  No doubt.

THIS IS ON HILLARY CLINTON'S WEBSITE

Her list of favorite presidents - Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Truman, George H.W. Bush and Reagan - demonstrates how she thinks. As expected, Bill Clinton was also included on the aforementioned list.

Hillary has no shame...she praises regean as one of her favorite Presidents on her website...

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=4674

Chuck Todd, man, you need to be on Olberrmann and Hardball calling Senator CLINTON out on this one. This is so duplicitous it makes my head spin. Finally we have a candidate that will sit down with multiple reporters and let them have an insight into his thoughts and feelings. Hillary should be ashamed of herself, but somehow I doubt it.

Obama is the one who will do anything to win..he has to have all his empty rhetoric.  Hillary Clinton has substance. As my grandmother used to say, "Actions speak louder than words".  Hillary Clinton can point to actions she has taken. Obama can only mimic great Americans..he is a knock-off..phony

Obama is the one who will do anything to win..he has to have all his empty rhetoric.  Hillary Clinton has substance. As my grandmother used to say, "Actions speak louder than words".  Hillary Clinton can point to actions she has taken. Obama can only mimic great Americans..he is a knock-off..phony

Maybe off subject here, but since Hillary won NH, and after media matters, women groups, and the view made her the victim all over again, Hill has been playing the part all so well. Tyra Banks helped her by asking about that thing, again. Wish Monica could get some of the protests from media matters, women group, and the view. After all she is maybe a few years older than Billary daughter. Bill is a child molester. I sure hope America's women don't fall for this victim stuff again. If they are so gullible Hill will make Bill have a affair for the sympathy vote.

But no president can do it alone. She must break recent tradition, cast cronyism aside and fill her cabinet with the best people, not only the best Democrats, but the best Republicans as well.. We’re confident she will do that. Her list of favorite presidents - Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Truman, George H.W. Bush and Reagan - demonstrates how she thinks. As expected, Bill Clinton was also included on the aforementioned list.

This is a list of Hillary's favorite Presidents from a press release on HER website.  

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=4674

Interesting huh?  Reagan, George H.W. Bush. on the list but no mention of JFK?  

Now I'm really confused about why she is attacking Obama on this.

As usual, obama is a total fraud.

Obama is really getting obnoxious. His sense of history and his own place in it seems to become more distorted by the day. I hope he keeps blasting the hot air.  At some point, perhaps people will start to see him for who he really is---a pol with a very inflated sense of himself and a record totally at odds with the hype.  

Hillary Clinton at this point can't even get out her own way. What a crock. Not that she isn't a capable politican, but just for this time nor set of special needs. Edwards is at best a cabinat member. Great passion but it needs direction. Obama can give it just what it needs. Hillary can and should offer her considerable influence to the good for this nation. She would be better served helping someone who has a vision to actually take us to a better place as a nation. That is clearly and unmistakenly Barack Obama. All the Clintons do is attack Barack Obama. That means they are always looking up at him while trying to be condescending. Dosen't work anymore. Too many people are beginning to recognizing the truth and who is telling it. - Thank you Barack.

Flimsy and clumsy view of Obama is self evident when he admired Ronald Reagan who

1. Fired 12,000 PATCO members and ruined their lives.
2. Became friendly with Ayotollah Koemani of Iran
3. Masterminded the Iran Contra Money Laundering Scandal
4. Supply Sided and ruined the economy.
5. Increased the Debt from 2 trillion to 10 trillion.

The skinny Senator from Illinois can as well switch party and become a Republican.

It is scandalous to praise Reagan, when FDR's is there as Dems' Icon.

Shame on Barack Hussein Obama, son of a Kenyan Muslim.

Watch video he sounds like he's a Republican.
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1582

Anyone who remembers what Ronald Reagan did to working class Americans should be disgusted by Obama's comments.  Reagan is a hero to the Republican Party for good reason.  Wake up, you fools!!!  Reagan was a total disaster for this country, and he was a "hands off" President just as Obama says he'll be a "hands off" President.  I started out liking Obama, but the more he talks, the more he convinces me he's not ready for prime time!!!

Don't be trash talkin' the Messiah!  Hallelujah!  He hath come!

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