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Nevada Mormons turn out for Romney

Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:39 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Mark Murray
Per the Mormon Church, Mormons make up about 7.5% of Nevada's population. But according to the entrance polls so far, a whopping 25% of those who participated in the state's GOP caucuses are Mormons.

And 94% of those people went with Romney.

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But it's been also reported that Evangelicals voted for him.

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Is anyone else out there questioning why NBC purposefully excluded Dennis Kucinich from the Nevada debate? Does anyone realize that the American media is and has always controlled the elections?!??!! Would anyone like to stand out and do something about this??? Say something, write someone.
i wouldn't trust romney to run my hardware store!
lord,what low poll numbers----not many voting in the republican caucus.all mormon?
I wonder how Warren Jeffs would have voted if.......
I have to comment on the message posted below from an address of "another dummycrat": "I wouldn't trust Romney to run my hardware store!" (Sent Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:55 PM).  What kind of comment is this? Having interacted in the private equity markets for years (and as a repeat business owner myself), it is widely accepted that Romney knows business and economics better than any of the other candidates -- the proof is in his results -- he has one of the best long-term track records in the private equity industry and was one of the pioneers of the industry with Bain Capital. Now, I've never tried to run a business as insignificant as a hardware store, but I am sure the same principles of business and economics apply. How can you make such a foolish comment?
To Black Evangelical 4 Huckabee.  
Warren Jeffs is not a Mormon. He does not belong to the same church Mitt Romney does.  Get your facts straight, or quit trying to mislead people
I have to laugh at the assumption that Mormons are voting him into office - as stated, only 7% of NV is Mormon.  And what about the other 75% of the people who voted this morning?  I think that what makes the difference here in the West is that while the majority of us aren't Mormon, we all know someone who is.  And, we know that Romney's being Mormon is a non-issue.  

I can't wait to be able to cast my vote for Romney!!
The 2000 census shows Nevada has only 6% Mormons in the state. If Mitt Romney has 45%+ of the vote then there were a lot more than just the LDS who voted for him.  
Warren Jeffs is not mormon. Go Romney
Watching the primaries reminds of a sportscaster that calls the game on one play.  Its the final score that counts.  Last I looked, Romney had twice as many delegates as the next competitor.  And the news media still says he is in trouble and has to make the next play in the game or he is finished.  Am I missing something here?????
Suppose we eliminate the Mormon votes from the results in Nevada today.  That means we take off 25% from Romney's totals.  He still WINS the State.    
I guess if Mormons took Romney's Mormonism into consideration when voting overwhelmingly for him,  we non-Mormons can also consider his religion in voting against him.
Warren Jeff had nothing to do with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Go ROMNEY!!!!   California has a huge LDS population too.  Romney should do very well in CA too.  Arizona has a huge LDS population too.  It would be so funny if Romney beats McCain in AZ.
Why does everyone focus on Romney's faith?  Could it be possible that non-mormons could vote for him as well?  No other candidate has had his personal faith drug through the streets like Romney.
Almost half of Romney's votes in Nevada came from Mormons.  

Let's see, to date, he's won in the state in which he was born (Michigan), and he's won in a state where almost half of his votes came from Mormons (Nevada).  

Sounds like he has really broad-based appeal.....not.
Black Evangelical 4 Huckabee , I hope your name is not based on any claim you have to be honest, Christian or someone who has experienced discrimination or prejudice. Cause you just told a hate filled lie based on a prejudice stereotype. But now that you have become superior to the rest of us, it's ok when you do it.
This is one amazing man. Mitt makes it happen!!!
Fighting a battle not only against the other candidates, but against this oh so bias media, and against so called "Christians"  verbal terrorist. I did not grow up a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints, and was taught all the lies about the Mormons.
I personally now know differently
Mormons strive daily to be humble Christians the best they know how. And could never imagine criticizing another's faith. People who spread rumors and lies about other people are full of hate. Many of MSNBC Blogs are full it.
Romney is a great man. I pray we do not settle for mediocrity because we were swayed by the negativity of the media and the twisted truths of ignorant bloggers.
Go Romney!!!!Wyoming loves you! Michigan loves you! Navada loves you!! We love you.
Hey Scott, you really don't know what you are talking about.  Romney is 1st or 2nd in all primaries.  Get use to it.  He is going to win the nomination and then beat Mrs. Clinton for the White House.  
Scott, Milwaukee, WI>>> How can half of Mitts vote come from 7% of the population?  Keep in mind a good portion of those Mormons are not of voting age....
How could half of Mitt's votes come from Mormons when the polls clearly show that the Mormons only made up only 25%?  Nice try bud.  
Numbers! voice of the people is not in the headlines, it is in the numbers. Numbers and Headlines are telling two different stories.
Romney's two silvers were a slight fraction behind the golds. Romney's golds were won by leaps and bounds!
Delegates, Votes, numbers.

Go Romney! The more I learn about him the more admiration I have for him.  
I'm Mormon and my parents know Mitt. Doesn't mean I'm voting for him. I sure as heck hope we don't vote in a president based on people's dislike of someone's religion, or the fact that the candidate is the same religion as the voter. We'll be in more trouble than we are now. Vote for who can best run the country, plain and simple. Why does this have to be so difficult?
Romney ran against only Ron Paul, since all of the other Repubs ignored the state as no delegates were awarded. So the only states Romeny has won were states where he essentially had only one other opponent.  Let's see how he does against all of the big boys in SC.  
Mitt Romney is the only man who can save america. Definitely the only one that can defeat the dyke and the blackie to win the White house.
The Mormom faith is NOT the same as the Christian faith. Do Christians believe that Jesus was created? That Jesus & Satan were brothers? The Mormon faith teaches this.
Do your research before making such a false statement. It is a cult by definition:
A cult of Christianity is a group of people, which claiming to be Christian, embraces a particular doctrinal system taught by an individual leader, group of leaders, or organization, which (system) denies (either explicitly or implicitly) one or more of the central doctrines of the Christian faith as taught in the sixty-six books of the Bible.”
What's next? Scientologist will start calling themselves a Christian religion in order to get public acceptance? Give it time.
"I guess if Mormons took Romney's Mormonism into consideration when voting overwhelmingly for him,  we non-Mormons can also consider his religion in voting against him."

They already did, or have you already forgot what happened in IOWA?!

Next question, how many Mormons would have voted for Harry Reid?

How many Evangelicals voted for Huckabee in Michigan, or New Hapshire or Wyoming? See a trend?

The answer to all of this is that Conservatives vote Conservative! They do not and will not vote for Socialists, which is the same thing as a Populist. Period!
Actions speak louder than words.  Romney has an impressive record overcoming obstacles and challenges with positive results.  He has consistantly shown great leadership skills and economic expertise- starting an enormously successful venture capital firm, saving the scandal ridden Olympics and turning them into what many have called the most successful Olympic games, and serving as Gov of the great state of Mass.  The facts are black and white.
Congratulations to Dr. Paul too!  We love you!!!
Sean, NY, NY - go find your own party, the Democrats and Republicans are already full of bigots.
This is a landslide win for Romney, and it's not due to LDS backing.

Followinh the poll assumptions we have seen so far...

Romney has about 55% of the vote.
25% of caucus voters are LDS
Nearly 100% of LDS voters went with Romney

If you take out the 25% from LDS voters, that means non-LDS (75% of the voters) contribute the other 30%. If you do the math (30% / 75%)...

40% of non-LDS voters went with Romney.

Media pundits are way overstating the LDS influence on the Nevada results. It's not his religion that's resonating; it's his message.
Mormons are touchy about Warren Jeffs. Although Mitt Romney comes from polygamy and it is the church of his fathers. Careful, your garments are showing.
Political Realist, Los Angeles , I did not realize that the other candidates failed to run in Michigan. I guess you are not much on realism.
Ron Paul is the only choice if you want real change.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/
Warren Jeffs is not a Mormon?  

Incredible the lengths people will go to delude themselves about their religion.  

Ok, Jeffs isn't mormon because FLDS isn't mormon?

So Catholics aren't Christians?  

Presbyterians?

Lutherans?

People make up new rules as they go along, all the time.  Mormons aren't any different

They all follow the teachings of Joseph Smith some just have a more literal interpretation and other just follow the more politically convenient non-polygamist view.  At least until there is a "revelation" that lets them change the rules to whatever they want again, or whichever way the political winds are blowing.
>Someone in WA
Your right we shouldn't be voting for people based on religion.  However if you are mormon and you vote against Mitt, you will be in the fraction of 1% of mormons of voting age that don't.  You can't argue that for THE MOST PART mormons will be voting in lockstep for Romney because they are told to.  Same with evangelicals for Huckabee.  Religion does not teach people to think independently (I am sure were he here Galileo would confirm this for us).

That is the reality of the situation.  I know everyone reading this (if the christian screener lets it through) is thinking of a well crafted reply but the statistics in the end will show that Mormons overwhelmingly voted for Romney (of the mormons that voted) and evangelicals overwhelmingly voted for Huckabee.  
Is there a web site somewhere that bashes the Evangelical faith the way the Mormon faith is being bashed?  I can't believe the nasty, hatefilled, people who are Mormon bashers.  Are they Christians?  They certainly aren't acting like they are.  I thought we were more educated and open minded than that.  Discrimination seems to be alive and well....and OK....if it is against someone of the Mormon faith. And one more thing....a cult isn't defined as a religion you disagree with.  Get a life.  Count your blessings.  Find something that lifts you up.  Your sad, sad, sad discrimination is ugly, ugly, ugly.
Shawn, Dallas TX:

Interesting definition you found of cult:  "A cult of Christianity is a group of people, which claiming to be Christian, embraces a particular doctrinal system taught by an individual leader, group of leaders, or organization, which (system) denies (either explicitly or implicitly) one or more of the central doctrines of the Christian faith as taught in the sixty-six books of the Bible."

And I guess your next trick will be to show be where the word trinity is mentioned in one of the 66 books of the Bible.
>Jan
> a web site somewhere that bashes the Evangelical faith the way the >Mormon faith is being bashed?  I can't believe the nasty, hatefilled, >people who are Mormon bashers.  Are they Christians?

Of course they are Christians Jan.  They have a long and storied history of hate, bigotry and intolerance.  When did women, African Americans (or any other minority for that matter) get a chance to even cast a vote in this "Christian" country of ours?

When Pizarro landed in the New World he slaughtered the "heathen" natives wholesale because they wouldn't put their hand on the bible and swear fealty to a god they had never heard of.  

It is harder to do that and get away with it these days but the understanding of other cultures and religions hasn't advanced much
Mitt Romney believes in family values. Nevada wants the same. Faith in God and Experience in the Private sector. What an awesome combination. Go Mitt !!
Hey Karl.  Do the math.  Mitt got 51% of the vote.  94% X 25% = 24%.  So, almost half of Mitt's votes came from voters who were Mormon.  
The Trinity is mentioned in the Bible. It is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The word Trinity is not found in the Bible, however the Trinity is mentioned throughout the Bible. A lot of people get confused about the Trinity. I explain it like this. The Trinity is like an egg. There is no difference in the way they work. An egg is made up of egg shell, egg white, and egg yoke. Now matter how you slice them they are egg. The shell is egg, the white is egg, the yoke is egg. You can have just the shell and it is still egg. You can have just the white , and it is still egg. you can have just the yoke and still it is egg. Separate they are egg, together they are egg. The Trinity is the same. God the Father, God the Son And God the Holy Ghost. The father is God, The son is still God and the Holy Spirit is God. They are all God regardless of being together or separate.
I am a Black Christian that is voting for Romney for two basic reasons.  1) He is the most qualified to turn the country around economically, and it demonstrated in his track record and in having the most organized campaign of any candidate.  How can we trust the others to run the country if their campaign organization are lacking.
2) I watched the "Blacks in the Scriptures" DVD by two Black Mormons that gives the real Mormon doctrine regarding Blacks.  Quite impressive and it showed me that Mormons may have had a bad past, but the doctrine is not racist, just misunderstood.

Joe
To Shawn, Dallas, TX
Father, Son, Holy Ghost? Sounds like three individuals to me. But that is not the point. The word "Cult" is defined differently in many dictionaries. The fact is that mormons call themselves christian because that's what they are striving to do. To do what Jesus would do. They may think of the trinity differently from you Shawn, but that doesn't mean they are not christian. If being Christian is all about sharing the same beliefs then everyone else who calls themselves christian. Then they aren't christian in that instance. Mormons do very well at setting a good example that would be pleasing to Jesus if he were here. They strive to keep his commandments and to follow his example. That is the important thing. Being christian is a way of life rather then a way of belief.
To Shawn, Dallas, TX
Father, Son, Holy Ghost? Sounds like three individuals to me. But that is not the point. The word "Cult" is defined differently in many dictionaries. The fact is that mormons call themselves christian because that's what they are striving to do. To do what Jesus would do. They may think of the trinity differently from you Shawn, but that doesn't mean they are not christian. If being Christian is all about sharing the same beliefs then everyone else who calls themselves christian. Then they aren't christian in that instance. Mormons do very well at setting a good example that would be pleasing to Jesus if he were here. They strive to keep his commandments and to follow his example. That is the important thing. Being christian is a way of life rather then a way of belief.


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