Amend and halalula ! hillaryclinton.com

Does Clinton really think Blacks in Harlem are dumb enough to believe that Clinton is attending a Black Church of note in Harlem for any other reason that to get Black votes?  Will she be attending other Black Churchs throughout the South or is this just her token visit for all?

Harlme...Senator Obama is counting on you....
Don't let the Clintons USE YOU....

Nevada democrats have spoken, they don't want Obama. He is too divisive, calculated and will just do ANYTHING to get elected! Hillary is smart and will solve the problems.

Hillary is just brilliant.

Hillary for president!

Harlem was revitalized by the Clintons.  African-Americans owe the Clintons!  We all owe it to the Clintons.  Remember the prosperity, peace, global recognition and respect?  Bring back the Clintons!

US Citisen: Honestly, the Clintons are very supportive of the African American community - to say it is a token visit is just plain wrong.

Hillary's gone to black churches many times before this one so its not just this once

I am so tired of seeing politicians use black be. They are only important to them at election time. The black church should even be tired of being used. They should leave the politician wondering where they stand. It would even make the race more interesting. Stop letting them know your business.

Pandering

NV democratic delegates 13, Clinton 12

Hillary's going to say she played for the Globe Trotters.

Will Barack Hussein Obama do to his Christian faith the same as he did to his Muslim faith? Change it when it is inconvinient...

Hillary has worked hard and long on behalf of minorities of all races...for all of her life.  Do not belittle all she's done for us by turning on her now.  Do not make this a race war!  That is NOT the way we thank people who work so hard on our behalf.  I don't care who you vote for, but do not insinuate that the Clintons are racist in any way.  They have proven time and again that they do not discriminate, just the opposite, in fact!  I can list far more examples that the Clintons have accomplished for minorities than Obama, that's for sure.

YES INDEED! I am an economist and HILLARY CLINTON'S economic agenda is sound! That is what people should listen to and look into! Hillary is spontaneous, sharp, smart, knows what she is talking about. All candidates are all talking about change but only HILLARY TALKS OF GENUINE CHANGE!!! THANK YOU  TO THE NEVADANS, for making the right choice! I have worked for a UN program and I had a comprehensive expericenc with variour countries especially developing ones. Even in those countries where government and politics are less complex, the equivalent electoral stanndards would put to shame the likes of what Obama is doing in his campaign ( Black propaganda and negativism in ad. No doubt, Obama is amateur and still in sophomoric record. I cannot be proud to be an American with Obama as president.  ¡Usted hizo a la opción derecha, Nevadans!  ¡Gracias!  Now I hope South CAROLINA would vote  on the basis of sound Economic Agenda that Hillary is proposing.   She is spontaneous, and has the grip of the problems plaguing our country. We NEED AN EXPERIENCED LEADER! Our problems are so grave that we cannot afford a president who will operate on TRIAL AND ERROR.  HILLARY is the right choice!

The race issues in this election don't seem as important to me as the generational drive that's powering the Obama campaign.

Watching the lengths the boomer's have gone to hang on to power has been fairly saddening and pretty disgusting.  

I wonder if they (especially the Clintons) understand that this isn't a red/blue fight for us, that we won't just fall into party line.

Blacks in Harlem are NOT dumb...they have ALWAYS loved the Clintons! And why is Obama suddenly realizing there are black people in South Carolina??? Gee....could it be to get the black vote? Are people in SC also supposed to be "too dumb to realize" that Obama is using THEM for votes? Obama was raised by his WHITE family, and it is the height of hypocrisy for him to pretend while he's in SC that he struggled growing up,in the same way the black community in SC has. You Obama people who preach about how "perfect and pure" your candidate is sound ridiculous. Hillary For President!!!

Martin and Lucy why beat up on Obama? Obama is divisive? How so? Or is that just a tag line to justified your support for someone who did nothing but split the country into what is now called the red and blue states. Or did you forget that it was Hillary who say that she knew how to handle "bad men" and those in the Republican party. Yeah, Hillary is definitively someone who will bring people in this country together. I'll hold my breathe waiting for her to do so.

we need to elect a president that knows whats the problems America is now facing. We need the clintons back on the heels to move our economy back on the track again....

Blacks Learning
'Goldwater Girl' Hillary Was AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964....Feel Deceived !


A March 12, 2007 article written by acclaimed Washington columnist Robert Novak sheds a very revealing light on the true sentiment of Hillary Clinton during the peak of the Civil Rights Movement. Clinton recently was found to have minimized the great and monumental strides taken by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. by stating that it was Lyndon B. Johnson, then president, who should receive the credit for civil rights progress including the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

In an attempt to attract black support Hillary Clinton regularly shares her 'civil rights experience' during every speech given to blacks audiences. Novak writes of one such speech at Selma's First Baptist Church on the 42nd anniversary of the "bloody Sunday" freedom march there, where Sen. Clinton declared: "As a young woman, I had the great privilege of hearing Dr. King speak in Chicago. The year was 1963. My youth minister from our church took a few of us down on a cold January night to hear [King]. . . . And he called on us, he challenged us that evening to stay awake during the great revolution that the civil rights pioneers were waging on behalf of a more perfect union." But Novak's article states that there's a big problem with her statement.

The fact is, in 1963, the same period of time she speeks of at all black church appearances, not only was Hillary Clinton a republican, but she was also a staunch supporter of republican Senator Barry Goldwater, well known as a segregationist and one of the most vocal senators adamently against the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which is why he lost in his presidential bid to Lyndon B. Johnson. Novak writes "...how then could she be a 'Goldwater Girl' in the next year's presidential election?" He continues, "...she described herself in her memoirs as 'an active Young Republican' and 'a Goldwater girl, right down to my cowgirl outfit.' (Hillary worked on Golwater's presidential campaign)

Novak adds, "As a politically attuned honor student, she must have known that Goldwater was one of only six Republican senators who joined Southern Democratic segregationists opposing the historic voting rights act of 1964 inspired by King. Hillary headed the Young Republicans at Wellesley College. The incompatibility of those two positions of 40 years ago was noted to me (Novak) by Democratic old-timers who were shocked by Sen. Clinton's temerity in pursuing her presidential candidacy." Novak adds, "What Hillary Clinton said at Selma is significant because it betrays her campaign's panicky reaction to the unexpected rise of Sen. Obama as a serious competitor for the Democratic nomination.

Clinton's plans were transformed by the advent of Obama, an African-American threatening the hard allegiance of black voters forged by Bill Clinton. On one hand, the Clinton campaign has attacked Obama and his supporters. On the other hand, she has sought to solidify her civil rights credentials.

While Clinton was re-inventing her past, her road to the White House is not going as planned. Instead of a steady procession to coronation at the Denver convention, she is involved in a real struggle against credible opponents led by Obama. No wonder she and her handlers were tempted to imply the existence long ago of a young lady in Chicago's suburbs who never really existed."

We greatly appreciate Mr. Novak's findings which bring one main thought to mind. Wake up Black America! DON'T BE FOOLED ! The fact is, Hillary was AGAINST the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that Dr. King died for. As a 'Goldwater Girl' she was even against Lyndon B. Johnson, the very person she now gives the credit to for Dr. King getting to the mountaintop. !

Greg 'Peace Song' Jones

Rick,ky (Sent Friday, January 18, 2008 4:44 PM)

Too many young people are not old enough to remember friends going out of state to get an illegal abortion (although I am pro life, I believe it is my CHOICE), women being admitted to ivy league schools, women becoming police officers, firefighters, and professional athletes, AND civil rights in our generation!!  Don't hate Hillary because she is smart and compassionate and driven.  All these things would be admired in any other male candidate.  I too look forward to the economics, the world position, etc. of the previous Clinton administration.  I can only hope that Hillary Clinton intends and will bring us back to that state of prosperity and good times.  

You go girl - NV was a HUGE win for Hillary!

OBAMA DOES NOT OWN THE BLACK VOTE , IT'S A "FREE" COUNTRY LAST I HEARD.

Rick,ky:
  Are you SERIOUSLY going back to 1963 when Hillary was a teenager to try and smear her??? What did Saint Obama do as a TEENAGER...DRUGS!!! It's in his book, for heaven sakes. You can't claim that Obama's past behavior is off limits while trying to play gotcha with a lame quote from 1963 about Hillary! Puhleeze!!!  Hillary 2008

First of all Rev. Calvin butts is already a supporter of Senator Clinton so your reporting of breaking news is an error, there are newspaper stories that are almost a month old that list him as a supporter. Secondly you should report that Nevada's delegate vote was 13 to 12 for Obama. So actually there was no clear winner in Nevada.

I am half black and looking at all of this tension I think this will only backfire and hurt Obama in the end. Blacks need to stop complaining about the Clintons being racists and using blacks because it will only make the rest of the population generalize blacks as confrontational and racist for only supporting Obama because he is black. Trying to make Clintons racists just because of one comment Hillary made about MLK and LBJ is not smart. Trust me, there will be a backlash from whites, Hispanics, and Asians who will start to see this as black vs. everyone else. Why would they want to vote for a black man after seeing the way the black community has acted towards Clinton? People will bring out the stereotypes and generalizations that if they vote for Obama then blacks will use his presidency to further their own agenda without any concern for other racial groups. If you want Clinton to win then continue the complaining and all flock to Obama. It's only going to make the black population look small, racist, and full of double standards.  

Actually, NBC News is reporting that Hillary and Bill are traveling to Harlem tomorrow to recieve the endorsement of the prominent African American minister, Rev. Calvin Butts.

James Tan in West Palm Beach, are you the idiot Clinton supporter who recorded the gross phone message taht kept using Barack Obama's middle name that was left on people's voice mail in Nevavda?

Congratulations to BOTH of the winners this evening:
Popular vote:  Clinton 51%   Obama  45%
Delegates:     Obama 13   Clinton 12

Sen. Clinton once again used her misleading and false mailer and e-mail (signed by local pro-choice leaders) sent out immediately before the caucus. --- One hopes she at least TOLD the local signers the true background this time!  For some fascinating reading:
Washington Post, On The Trail, Jan 18, 2008
"Trying to Heal a Rift in New Hampshire"
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/18/trying_to_heal_a_rift_in_new_h_1.html
-------  When she manages to win with the votes of women *without* using this underhanded techniqe, I'll be much more impressed.  

If Hillary wasn't a women and Barack wasn't black,
who would get the women and black votes? John Edwards
perhaps? Just a thought. Shouldn't it just come down to who will the best choice for this country and not vote for one or the other because of gender or race.
We dems still have along way to go in these catagories. Fight it out on the issues that need addressing, and we can make the right choice.
A Democratic President!!!

If you consider super delegates, in Nevada, Hillary Clinton adds 14 delegates to her winning bank and Barack Obama adds 14 delegates to his bank.The anchors and Axelrod can spin themselves off of their stools but this is the delegate count. And, of course Hillary wins the well deserved Sunday paper headlines.

Rick, KY:

You live in past and live in hatred and talk about changing future?

Talk about a hypocrite and lack of moral in a person. May God bless the cult followers!!

Mr. Obama said that he received more national delegates in Nevada than Mrs. Clinton because of his strong performance across the state, “including rural areas where Democrats have traditionally struggled.”

But some election officials said they were confused about Mr. Obama’s claim that he has more delegates than Mrs. Clinton.

“I don’t know why they’re saying that,” said Jill Derby, president of the Nevada State Democratic Party, referring to the Obama campaign. “We don’t select our national delegates the way they’re saying. We won’t select national delegates for a few more months.”

Jill Derby: Nevada Demo Party chair ---
Rory Reid: de facto head Nev Dem Party/Clinton camp mgr
Harry Reid: father of Rory Reid: sen maj leader/sen from lv
Bill Clinton: the master puppeteer

"the republicans were so mean to me"
William Clinton: January 18, 2008

It's about winning and spinning -- and it seems the public is too distracted to realize it will never be the 1990's again (unless anew internet happens to rev the economy)

We're doomed

Hillary or Obama hmmm I will cast my vote on the one who would be the most experienced to clean up the mess in this country today. She has the experience He has not. The comment about Hillary going to a black church well the last time I looked at my right to religion it did not say I had to go to a white or black church . God would be so disapointed to learn our churches are segregated as to color and a white person could not go in your black church in harlem.
Hillary you go girl, you have my vote
Snobunny in Minnesota

Hillary or Obama hmmm I will cast my vote on the one who would be the most experienced to clean up the mess in this country today. She has the experience He has not. The comment about Hillary going to a black church well the last time I looked at my right to religion it did not say I had to go to a white or black church . God would be so disapointed to learn our churches are segregated as to color and a white person could not go in your black church in harlem.
Hillary you go girl, you have my vote
Snobunny in Minnesota

Tim Russert just repeated the "people are saying" misattribution that Joe Scarborough started this morning.

President Clinton wasn't inferring anything as Msrrs. Russert and Scarborough infer.

Senator Obama ACTUALLY SAID in his interview that the Republican party has been the party of ideas for the last 18 years.

Msrrs. Russert and Scarborough need to begin their opinions with fact or go get jobs on Fox Noise.

I think Hillary has shown what a true and honest person she is and this is not her first black church and certainly she and her family are not racists.
If you will remember, Obama's ally and money person is a certain talk show host that has made the statement that this is the first time she has gotten involved in politics and endorsed a politician.  So what does that say to people? I think the support the Clinton's have, shows what this country really means to them & she truly cares about what happens to "ALL AMERICANS!"  So I say go HILLARY!

I am an African American who has felt supportive of the Clintons in the past. Sure, you can say they did lightyears more for people of color than the republicans. But what about when it comes time to fully live up to the equality our country espouses? What happens when power sharing seems possible? What happens then is dirty politics.

The clinton Campaign and some of its supporters have waged a disgusting attack on Barack Obama and in the process have insulted African Americans and Latinos. maybe the problem with racism in America is it's so deep, they don't even know they are in it.

The MLK, LBJ comment was insensitive. Clinton's personal ambition road over the tremendous sacrifice of King and all those who struggled before him with those comments. Without the struggle of the Oppressed, NO BILLS EXPANDING RIGHTS are ever passed. This is historically true of diverse ethnic groups, women, and laborers.

The lengths Clinton's campaign has gone to access the black vote via media is shame due to insincerity and cultural ignorance.

Hillary gets an idiot like Johnson from BET who brings Ghetto gesturing about Barack's past into the campaign. She was so interested in finding the supposed pulse of black media attention that she stepped in '%#-it'. No African American should ever respect Johnson again for those comments.

Hillary got on the Tyra Banks show to discuss her love for Bill during the trial of his affair. I have no basis for doubting her personal business, but that was a timely and strategic move to get in front of black women and manipulate the sense of hurt they often feel from men (particularly black men). This sense of hurt has roots that trace back centuries of fracturing of African families by those who used them to build this nation.

The Clintons have propped up Civil Rights Leaders to vi for them as well. What has become evident is that there is ageneration gap between those who valiantly fought for civil rights and those who need to take that mission into the future. The Civil Rights that African Americans (and others) fought for are in danger of eroding. The edge of that movement that was blunted by assasinations hs to be picked up again. The big difference is that the movement out of neccessity has to be global. Civil rights in every corner of the globe are in danger because a new global rendition of the economic monster created by capitalism is hungry for resources. People and the environment are in it's way and both are being destroyed or dispersed. America needs to seize this critical time in history to live up to it's ideals and set an example of fairness throughout the world. All one needs to do is look at how Hillary and Barack's campaigns are run to see who will actually advocate for what may save the world from a lot more problems. It's no the candidate who has a death grip on entitlement, but one of unifiyng and sharing that is the best choice. All the candidates know this deep down. All of then have emulated Barack's 'Change' message. None of them are saying the world is changing so fast, we may lose it before we settle the petty debates. People who are starving could care less about when we truly get around to becoming change agents. Some of those people will unneccessarily become our enemies. the environment could care less when we get around to truly solving problems.

But the pettiness continued with efforts to 'change'the decision to be inclusive of Nevada's Culinary/Hotel workers Union witha law suit. Latino voters must be so deathly afraid of having a raging republican who continues immigration raids that they can't see that their very right to participate at all was being threatened. Their votes didn't matter and were in fact not wanted when it seemed they might vote for Obama. Is this democracy?

Hillary use Chips and gaucomole as metaphor for solving the housing crisis in a largely latino state? Parades around with the star of 'Ugly Betty' Once again, cultural disconnection and insensitvity, and condesension representative of the entitlement of the status quo.

She goes on to announce 'This must be the way the West was won' in Nevada. Wasn't the West won by usurping Native Americans and Mexicans? wasn't it won through dirty politics? The answer is yes.

I'll be watching the delegate numbers. Obama still has more of those. I hope more people see that the future demands more than the Clinton's have done in the past, and certainly more than they are underhandedly doing in the present.

Stephen,

Hillary still leads with the Delegate count -- including Super-delegates -- 237 to Obama's 122 (and Edwards' 50), so I'm not sure where you're getting your number.

And Harlem loves the Clintons.  Bill choosing to base his office there, become part of the community and help to strengthen what was already a growing revitalization has endeared him and Hillary to the black community.  Anyone calling the Clintons racist are just desperately reaching for racist straws themselves.

Entrenched power and the status quo are SO hot!  New ideas are like, totally lame.

GO HILLARY!  

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mY2jmgwwmFk

"Dr. King's dream began to be realized when LBJ signed the civil rights act of 1964" - Hillary Clinton. We have to ask ourselves, why would she make such a comment?

Obama's speech refuting Clinton's assertion that Obama was giving people false hope. Obama went on to say in America there is no such thing as "false" hope. He went on to give examples of the American Revolution, going to the moon, and yes MLK's I have a dream.

His speech was hopeful, looking forward as one people not divided by race. Clinton had to squash that as quickly as possible.

Think about it? How could a candidate with "35 years" experience and a husband who was the "first black" president, make a statement like that? They are seasoned politicians. They knew exactly what the reaction would be. The statement that they were only trying to show the difference between a "dreamer" MLK and a "doer" LBJ - is disingenuous. They knew exactly how it would be percieved and used the cunning rovian tactic of placing the race blame on the Obama campaign and african americans everywhere when they spoke out agains the comment.

I listened to Air America right before the Iowa caucuses. Many african americans were leery to support Obama because they thought for sure race would play a part, and he couldn't win.
After Iowa, and Obama's overwhelming victory, it wasn't just african americans, but the whole country who were amazed and proud that we could actually move beyond race. African americans saw that Obama did have that chance, as well as many Americans who want to leave that bloody period of our history behind us.

The Clinton campaign has renewed that wedge. And divided our country once again. That glimmer of hope is fading with each dirty trick. It will be interesting to see how she will try to woo African Americans back to the fold. We now see that not only is Obama the "dreamer" but he could actually be the president who "gets it done" as well.

Wow. As a black person in Canada I'm amazed that, with all the serious economic problems facing the U.S. especially from India and China, that anybody would be voting based on race, gender, petty spats between politicans, or who makes you feel proud.

2008, more than ever, is the time to make a cold, hard choice from the head. The U.S. is in very serious trouble. The U.S. dollar has sunk to its lowest level ever around the world, jobs are fleeing the country, millions of people don't have healthcare, and the Middle East oil billionaires are busy bailing out your biggest banks over the last few weeks so they don't collapse from the sub-prime crisis. What if the Japanese, Chinese and Asians come calling for the trillions of dollars they've loaned the U.S. (that thing called the "deficit"). You can't pay it. Your country doesn't have the money to pay its debts. Those countries are looking on and openly laughing all the way to the bank at the way Americans are choosing their leaders in this time of crisis. Hey, why not. They're profitting from the chaos.

Many in the U.S. black population will be among the first to suffer - REALLY SUFFER - from the fast approaching economic fallout in your country.  

I hope people would pick their leader based on what that leader can do to bring back economic prosperity to the country.  Economic prosperity means you can feed, educate, and provide healthcare for your kids. Whatever their ethnicity or gender.

A politician's role is not to heal, restore faith, and of those things. That's not written in the constitution of the U.S.  I personally go to church, God, family and good friends for that.

I want my politician, as we say here in Canada, to "deliver peace, prosperity and good governance." THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL. The people will do the rest for ourselves.  I don't need a priest in charge, I need a strong leader who knows how to manage the economy.

Last I checked economic power gives you real power to bring about change. Hey, it works for other black folks in other countries.  Why not the U.S.?  Just a thought.

I wish you all a happy election. Good luck in your choices. Now I'll go back to minding my own business as I'm sure you all will tell me (smile).

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