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Another thought...

Posted: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:31 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
Hillary Clinton did appear angry, tough, maybe overly harsh but she also came off as a formidable opponent, and one had to wonder that if she could go after her Democratic colleagues like that imagine what she would do to a Republican. The core goal of Democrats voting in this election is electability, they want change but they want to win more. Clinton showed that she could take someone down, if not at least attempt to.

That's not to say that Obama is not tough or couldn't be harsh on a potential Republican in the race, it's just that Clinton came off as so tough.  It's interesting if you put Obama's performance and Clinton's attacks in light of Jim Clyburn's interview with Nightline. Clyburn said that if Obama can't handle the attacks in the primaries and come out as a victor, he wouldn't make it in a general -- basically saying that Hillary Clinton was doing Obama a favor by  going after him.

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Hillary IS tough enough to take down ANY republican as she proved without a doubt tonight! Obama's lame excuses and whiney complaints about Bill Clinton picking on him were so silly. It was more than enough to prove that he CANNOT handle the tough scrutiny the Republicans are just salivating to put him through! WE NEED HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Cathy, Upstate NY

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Hate mongers like this person need to take a hike. Democrats are trying to clean up America, not rip it down.
The debate was a debate  - but not about our country!!...HRC needs to decide if she or "Black Bill" is running  .. if so then we know how to vote  - a new president . . . anyone other than HRC and her Bill who is a thinly disguised "retreaded third term president in waiting".  It seems that HRC and Obama are "cancelling"  each other out  AND THEN there is John Edwards  - the real "white Hope".
Hillary sure have guts. I am very proud of her. Bring on the Republican party. I can tell Obama cannot stand the heat. He should stay away from the kitchen if he cannot stand the heat. I know Obama supporters were boooing Hillary last night regardless if she is right or wrong, but I am sure glad that she stood her ground.
Clinton seemingly has given up on trying to make herself likable for the moment, and in Clinton style, has decided instead to make her opponent as unlikable as she is. I think the lies are part of that strategy. They drive people who are paying attention crazy, which leads to counterattacks. Then the media plays it as a feud or spat, rather than digging into the substance of the dispute.

It kind of fits a pattern, in that quite a few things or people the Clintons come in contact with end up diminished.
Obama beat Clinton more decisively last night than in any debate thus far.  It was a KNOCK OUT.  Obama showed he knew how to fight back, and he won; the audience was about 60% pro-Obama and 40% pro-Clinton at the start of their exchange, but at the end, 90% of the audience was booing Clinton.  That is DEVASTATING, and it also looks devastating on television.  
To king of SMEAR: "SHE WANTS TO BE A MAN SO BAD A GOOD CASE OF A PERSON BORN IN THE WRONG BODY."

I would think that remark is a little small for a "king". What makes you think she is not a man, as ever bit of a woman? Funny thing how an election can bring out the worst in people. Then we wonder why the economy is in a crunch. Look at the thoughts? Sheech. These kinds of thoughts create "identity crisis" in America. Kind of sad... sigh..

I have not made my mind up per se for President at this moment but I will say this: I do not want a person in office who thinks they will be a savior type and has to protray to the people they will take care of them. Obama comes across that way and manipulates people through false hope. Now tell me how manly that is? Hmmmm I would call the "false mothering".

What do we need to pull the country together is not "false unity". Perhaps we need to more believe in our selves when electing a president and not on the merit of what they say but what you know they can do.

A


Hillary and Bill Clinton have been lying about Senator Obama for a month, so don't give me the "he hit her first" line, okay? That's just a bunch of bull. The only thing the Clinton's understand is what they got - a punch in the mouth! :)

(And well deserved I might add.)
I just want to address the comments that some Dems will vote Republican if Hillary is nominated. I feel diehard Dems will vote for whatever candidate is nominated. But I'm a registered Green and was looking for signs the Dems were ready to once again get back to progressive politics. Hillary is the only Dem candidate that I feel I could not vote for. It was the Clinton Administration that turned me away from the Dem party. Sure Hillary has experience, they all have experience, but it is clear to me that Hillary expects to play politics as usual if elected. I want someone that, like Obama or Edwards, is going to at least try to transform the way the party operates by calling on the electorate to get involved to make congress work for them. This country needs to get people excited and active in politics. It is really the best way to make change. If the Dems want to be the party of new ideas then why are they trying to give us a recycled Clinton as a candidate. Come on Dems, give me a reason to vote for you this time, give me a reason to want to switch my party affiliation and give me a reason to want to get involved in your party.

As skeptical as I am of the Dems, I am willing to give a fresh face a chance. But if Hillary is the nominee then I will most certainly vote for a 3rd party candidate. BTW, Ralph Nader will decide if he's going to run in the next month. I think it would take the wind right out of his sails if either Obama or Edwards were the nominee. However, if it looks like Hillary is going to be the nominee, I think you will see many of the young and new voters that Obama is attracting, flock to Nader.

I DON'T, SEE WHY WE MUST TREAT OBAMA AS A HOT HOUSE PLANT. I'M A BLACK WOMAN AND IF I HAVE IT MY WAY , HILLARY WILL BE THE FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT.
Yes, I can imagine how she would handle her Republican opponent and in my view it adds up to divisiveness. Exactly what our country does not need more of. If she wins the nomination I will absolutely not vote for her and Bill.

Go Obama


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