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Edwards from 'grown-up wing'?

Posted: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:22 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC/NJ’s Tricia Miller
CONWAY, S.C. -- Edwards was focused on two things today: his performance at last night’s debate and the economy.

“You know, between all the allegations of Hillary serving on the Wal-Mart board and Sen. Obama working for a slumlord, I was proud to represent the grown-up wing of the Democratic party last night,” he told a crowd of people seated in a peanut warehouse here.

On the economy in the short-term, Edwards suggested transitioning toward a green economy, modernizing unemployment insurance laws, creating a national home rescue fund, allowing the courts to restructure home loans and establishing a national predatory lending law. Over the long term, he said the twin goals of strengthening the middle class and lifting people out of poverty would build up the economy from its foundation. His economic stimulation plan would cost $100 billion, he said. A related issue that he said he brought up in the debate was trade.

“I don’t think you can give George Bush a new trade deal," Edwards said. "That guy’s no more going to enforce anybody else’s trade obligations than the man in the moon. He does these trade deals for one reason: because he knows his big corporate friends are gonna make more money. It’s just that simple."

Edwards also pointed out his parents in the crowd to his left, and a couple minutes later, he reminded the audience that the fight to strengthen the middle class is personal for him.

“When the fight gets tough it matters whether it’s inside you because if it’s inside you you will never stop," he said. "You will keep fighting. I mean, this is very, very personal for me because I’m like all of you. I watched my dad get up and go to that mill every day for 36 years. I watched him work and sacrifice.”

In a conference call with reporters following the town hall, Edwards accepted the endorsement of the South Carolina council of the Communication Workers of America, which has 2,200 active and 1,700 retired members. The union’s executive board chose not to endorse a candidate in November, instead releasing locals to make their own endorsements.

The Conway town hall was Edwards' only public appearance today because he's flying to New York for an interview that will air tonight on The Late Show with David Letterman. He'll start again in South Carolina tomorrow in Bennettsville.

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I guess John Edwards forgot to mention his ties with the Hedge Fund that screwed the victims of Hurricane Katrina.
["I was proud to represent the grown-up wing of the Democratic party last night," he [Edwards] told a crowd ...]
--I must confess that I think less of a candidate for flaunting an 'I'm better than you' or 'I remained above the fray' status, especially when that candidate did so in large part because he was left out.  I don't know, it strikes me as a petty, easy argument.  I'd rather a candidate with a voice--Clinton or Obama--in this case.
--And, here, I thought Edwards was an angry fighter?
Edwards disappointed me last night, when he harped on about the present votes.  Numerous new agencies have written articles about the accepted use of a present vote as a strategy in Illinois politics and that Obama's use was in step with the Democratic strategy there.  He is trying to score cheap political points.

I do believe that Edwards heart is in the right place, but that doesn't mean that Obama's isn't.  And when it comes down to the facts, Edwards made many bad votes in his 4 years as Senator, that he has had to apologize for.  
Edwards needs to drop out soon and his followers will split the Clinton and Obama voters. He will be great in a Clinton administration position. Thats why he was sucking up to Hillary last night. He knows whos going to win. I'd love to see a Clinton/obama ticket. That would be unbeatable and dems could then be in office for 16 yrs. The dream team.If only the Obama folks would get their heads out of their butts and just vote democratic, this might happen. Clinton for 8 yrs and Obama for 8 yrs. INCREDIBLE!!!
edwards won another debate....he gave the media just what they didn't want and that was very clearly evident in the way he was treated by anderson cooper on the air after the debate....did anyone see it the way i saw it:   edwards got some props that he so rightfully deserved in the first hour following the debate-  but the entire second hour of discussion was a pre-planned hour of racial issues in politics-an entire hour devoted to the two cry babies-clinton and obama...it was like edwards doesn't exist but he gets lucky winning debates....well maybe its not luck at all and maybe edwards can finally get some momentum with a south carolina win,...lets hope!!
John Edwards is a winnie. How did his $300.00 haircut look ?
John Edwards: No it wasn't pretty. But I think it sends a wrong message to Bill Clinton that he can say whatever he wants to say and not be challenged.

The debate was the perfect format for Barack Obama to defend himself.

It's a debate, not a pre-Super Bowl party.
who's Edwards trying to kid? We have the Media on the run, just look at Chris Mathews, We have Obama confused, frustrated, off message. Get on the Hillary train now fella, pretty soon you will be saying Madame President.
Edwards won the debate pure and simple. While Obama and Clinton were fighting, he was proposing realistic solutions to America's problems. Keep it up, Edwards!
GO JOHN EDWARDS!!!
I am using my neighbors computer, I don't have one.  Thank you for the opportunity to express my views.  Cherie
This is a speech no different than the one he gave in Iowa.He's not Flip Flopping. He's solid.Focused.
Has anyone heard the speech that John Edwards gave in Iowa, the people that went to it heard, but sadly not enough.It was Heart Felt, concerned for this nation, wanting desperately to fix this mess that our Government has gotten us in the last 20 years.The Bush-Clinton-Chaney's of politics needs to be far removed if we have a chance to get back on track. Big Money has taken over our land folks, big brother is setting it's ugly  teeth in, & It's not going to let go, unless someone like Mr. Edwards gets his rightful place, the White House. I have not heard such a speech such as the one Mr. Edwards gave in Iowa since J.F.K. Because he will not stoop to big money, he is being put on the back burner, we as Americans, need to bring him out front.
Hillary offered a home owner bail out plan last month. I wish democrats would stop offering to trade house payments for votes at my expense. Both of these senetors have had years to stop preditory loan practices, and have made no effort. Let the establishments that practiced these loans go under, and people who are in over their heads change to a life style within their means. A bail out is nothing more than an attempt to buy voters with their own money.

It is nice to see that one democratic candidate is talking about the economy and how to rectify the mess we are in.  Of course the other two are having their cat fight and will only divide the party.
Who is Tony Rezko and why is he indicted?  How does he know Obama and why did he give Obama all that campaign money and help him buy a house and stuff?

What a sleazy ploy by Edwards -- to re-quote the attacks his opponents made against one another and then pretend he's above the fray.  Edwards must also think that none of us has a memory, because in many of the previous debates, he was the attack dog and the kneecapper. Edwards is the phoniest Dem of them all, bar none.  
Edwards plays the grown-up when it's convenient. I'm not buying it. Where was the "grown-up Edwards in Iowa?

I suppose Senator Obama should just "ignore it" huh? Or maybe the Clintos could stop smearing Senator Obama? Not gonna hold my breath for that one.
Look at the praise and encouragement Martin Luther King III (Dr. MLK Jr.'s son) gave to John Edwards in a letter he sent to Edwards on Jan. 20th:

http://galley-cat.newsvine.com/_news/2008/01/22/1245912-dr-martin-luther-king-jrs-son-personally-encourages-john-edwards-to-continue-the-fight-for-economic-justice
Edwards has this attack-dog mentality that I fear would create an antagonistic attitude in government towards the corporations.  This sounds good but all that will happen is that corporations will move more jobs overseas and intentionally try to hurt the little people.  This will get the little people to fight against Edwards if we were the president.  Just my humble opinion but I feel we have to work out solutions with corporate America.  They understand money.  Give tax credits to entice the behavior you want from them.
Hillary sat on the walmart board when the old man was alive-They sold american made products.When he died they turned it into a buy chinese company.Check your history.
Edwards has "whinned" more than any other democrat on the campaign trail (with the possible exception of Hillary's "tear filled" response to her thought she might lose in NH). I hardly think he is any position to take the "high road" as the adult in the compaign. He was simply opportunistic in his posturing last night because "Billary" tried, unsuccessfully, to drag Obama into the gutter with her.  

Edwards was the most serious candidate last night, he sticked to his message and was the one with the real agenda while Hillary and Obama continue the bickering and the celebrity contest. I was considering to vote either for Edwards or Obama until last night, Obama looked real bad last night. I will vote for Edwards.
Edwards is the most presidential of the three and he talks about the issues that matter to me, mainly taking on corporate interests, health care and energy policy.  Obama and Hillary are an embarassment!!!!!!
John Edwards is the one candidate who speaks from the heart and the one candidate who most cares what is happening in American. And John Edwards is the one candidate who seems to realize things will not get better for mainstream America until Corporate America is prevented from buying politicians souls. We can nolonger afford to allow the export of good paying jobs or near slave labor countries to under mine the competitiveness of American manufacturers. We can no longer tolerate an $800 billion dollar trade deficit the is rotting the heart out of the American economy, and we must reverse the trend of America regressing to a mid-evil times culture of lords, barons and peasents, reverse the trend that places most of the power and wealth in the hands of a few that are inspired by greed. John Edwards knows this, and Edwards has the will and drive to fix it..EDWARDS/08
I have been leaning towards John Edwards in this democratic campaign, and last night's debate confirmed my choice.  I am so sick of hearing aboutBarack Obama and Hilary Clinton, with John Edwards always being left out of the picture. On both CNN, MSNBC and even Fox News, hardly a mention about John Edwards.  Well, he is a viable candidate, it's not over yet, many states are left to vote, and I wouldn't be surprised, after viewing last night's debate, many undecideds are going to vote for John Edwards who seems to concentrate on his message, and not slamming everyone else.  It reminds me of a bunch of high school kids debating, John is the only grown-up among them.  Please start to cover John Edwards and his message the same way you cover the supposedly "front-runners".  He is definitely still in the picture and he definitely has my vote and the vote of my family.  
Clinton working on the board of Wal-Mart is pretty hard to refute. She was there. On the board. Plain and simple.

Obama working for a slumlord is not fact. Mrs. Bill Clinton intentionally misrepresented an article from the Chicago Sun-Times. Here it is. Learn the truth for yourself: http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/124171,CST-NWS-obama05.article

Obama '08!!
I have been leaning towards John Edwards in this democratic campaign, and last night's debate confirmed my choice.  I am so sick of hearing aboutBarack Obama and Hilary Clinton, with John Edwards always being left out of the picture. On both CNN, MSNBC and even Fox News, hardly a mention about John Edwards.  Well, he is a viable candidate, it's not over yet, many states are left to vote, and I wouldn't be surprised, after viewing last night's debate, many undecideds are going to vote for John Edwards who seems to concentrate on his message, and not slamming everyone else.  It reminds me of a bunch of high school kids debating, John is the only grown-up among them.  Please start to cover John Edwards and his message the same way you cover the supposedly "front-runners".  He is definitely still in the picture and he definitely has my vote and the vote of my family.  
Go John!!!!!  The tidal wave of change that you have been speaking about in your passionate speeches throught out South Carolina and the country. Is about to take over America first South Carolina then rest of country!!! I will be doing my part working the phones for you everynight this week calling voters in South Carolina!! I encourage everyone to sign up on the web site and to pick the phone in a effort to change America so your voice will be heard....
John Edwards, in a way, did a good thing last night...

Even though he has no chance to win, letting Obama and Hillary tear into each other reminds people that there are other choices....
BILLary Rodham Clinton for president! We want both of them in the White House to help make this country and the world a better place to live in. We have already voted. Go Hill!
john edwards is my joice all the way I call myself middle class as a
retired cabinatmaker the problem I have i'm independent so i can not
vote for him in the primery stupet law that independet voters never get
to say anything exept sign up for a party

I am tired of everyone praising John Edwards for staying on message. It is EASY to stay on message when no one is attacking you because they don't believe you have a chance of winning. Of course he can stay above the fray; no one is lying on him or distorting his record. I am disheartened that Hillary Clinton will win the nomination but lose the general election. Obama is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. If he doesn't answer the falsehoods he allows the Clintons lies to go unchecked, if he does he is in the mud with them. NONE of the candidates are perfect so let the issues decide who will be the president. Trust me the Democrats will blow a golden opportunity because in their affinity for Bill Clinton they have equated him with Hillary Clinton and she is not electable. John Edwards can stay above the fray- If the bully is not picking on you it is easy not to get dirty.
I had been vacillating between the three candidates  and last night's debate helped me decide.  My vote will go to John Edwards.  I was disgusted with the back and forth arguments between Obama  and Clinton. Edwards was the only one who kept his dignity and really seemed sincere and dedicated to helping this country get out of the mess we are in.
John Edwards needs to think twice before criticizing Obama's 'present' votes.  As a senator, he missed close to 40% of votes...and the votes he made were a disaster.  He keeps apologizing for his errors.  I liked him in '04 because he brought vitality to the Kerry-Edwards ticket.  But, now he's getting no traction and he needs to go.
John Edwards was the only one with any sense last night.  Great to watch the others go at it (and it was better than watching any Prime Time Drama Series)but very sad for them in the end.  This South Carolina voter (and husband) will be in the polls Saturday with "Edwards Bells On!!!"
Right now the candidates are battling for democratic votes, but when it comes time to battling against the Republicans Obama and Clinton will not win!  Sorry if you really believe that the country has come to equality, but the sorry truth is that there is a ton of hidden racism and sexism.  They can not win, and it would be foolish to waste this wonderful opportunity that Bush and Cheney have given us. I am voting Edwards because he is the best candidate, and the most likely to win in Blue and Red states. Go Edwards the best chance for America!
Regarding last nights debate, the question posed to Obama: was Clinton the 1st black president, his response I would first have to see him dance was disgusting.  Had Clinton or Edwards made that comment the media and most Americans would have had a field day calling them racists and rightfully so.  His response should have been I would first have to find out what experiences he suffered being a black person in America. Making a comment that is from the 1950s is not the mind set of a progressive candidate.  Who is the real racist here?
Was the issue most important to you really debated?

I did not watch the debate because Dennis Kucinich was excluded. Without him the debate becomes a he said she said bickering contest between Clinton and Obama and the public ends up hearing nothing at all on their so-called universal health plans, Iraq/Iran war stances, GAY marriage stances, the NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO nightmare, repeal of the USA Patriot act and IMPEACHMENT.

Don't let the media stop YOUR questions from being answered! You are being duped into watching an expensive infomercial for the media's choices for President. Demand that Kucinich remain in the debates or end up hearing more of the same bickering created by the press to sell headlines.
Please undecideds, don't fall for this Media pushed narrative.  Despite the attacks that Obama had to defend himself against, he devoted as much time to explaining his policies.  And he and Edwards have virtually the same agenda for the American people.  The difference is that Obama want s to get it done by bringing people together to demand change.  Edwards thinks he can demand it just like he did in trials.  His rhetoric is to anti-corporation.  Hillary is too pro-corporation.  Obama's is just right.

Don't get me wrong, Edwards is a good guy.  But Obama has spent a lot more time in public service than Edwards, and he has a better proven track record of accomplishing change.

HMT-MI  - One of the reasons WalMart was able to start buting Chinese instead of American, is because of the Clinton presidency.  They opened the door to Chinese trade, do you think that is just cooincidence?
Obama's wife was ALSO on the board at Walmart, people!!! Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, remember??? HILLARY 2008!!!
"Numerous new agencies have written articles about the accepted use of a present vote as a strategy in Illinois politics and that Obama's use was in step with the Democratic strategy there."

Agreed and that's all well and good if you are running as a politics as normal candidate that tows the party line and methods.  When you are running as a change candidate that will break deadlock and political games as usual that is a much less helpful defense as it say's otherwise.

Likewise obama's bickering with clinton doesn't do much to convince people he can unify people around his agenda.  Edwards on the other hand succesfully had both clinton and obama on his side at different times.  In his role moderating between them he looked like both the unifier and clarifier.  He understood both of their positions and succesfully counterpointed himself to them.

When you are running as the change and unifier candidate getting in a knock down drag out slugfest inside your own party is not in your interest.
Edwards realized his 'attack lap dog' modus operandi was getting him nowhere - so he changed his tactics.
To imply he could best win the South was to imply that as a 'White Boy' he could beat Obama.

What a snake oil salesman. It's lawyers like him who are, in part, responsible for such high medical and insurance costs.
Go Barack! Go John! The Dem's WINNING TICKET: OMABA /EDWARDS '08. Remember, in order to get the WH (BACK) you NEED to get 270. With any other ticket, you will lose the WH (for 8 YEARS, not 4, don't kid yourself), the senate (55-45, AGAIN!) and of course the Supreme Court (a Conservative court, nonetheless 7-2 yup, KIDDOS, it's gonna be 7-2! ) MARK MY WORDS. But the saddest part is gonna be that: YOU,as a voter, YOU could've CHANGE the (WASHINGTON'S) RULES once and for all but you decided that you were better than that. What a shame, what a shame...INDEED.
Okay who threw the first punchObama and it was on his first question. Obama came out fighting and Hillary stood her ground. GO HILLARY….
Monica.  Type in Tony Renzko Obama and you will read all about it on the Net.  Renzko is indited and will face trial in March right after super Tuesday.  
"Edwards made many bad votes in his 4 years as Senator, that he has had to apologize for.  
Kelly (from Pittsburgh) (Sent Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:42 PM)"

First of all, senate terms last six years, not four, and Edwards served a full term.  Secondly, Edwards HAS apologized for the few votes he got wrong, and no doubt Iraq was a big one to get wrong.  But Clinton had it exactly right last night: Barack Obama will never take responsibility for anything he's ever done in his life, beyond his totally forgivable high school drug use.
"Demand that Kucinich remain in the debates or end up hearing more of the same bickering created by the press to sell headlines."

You're welcome to that perspective and in a way, I can agree with the sentiment, but Kucinich is just embarrassing himself at this point.  If he had Ron Paul's numbers or even something in that ballpark, I'd say include him for sure, but has he gotten more than 1-2% in ANY state?
Earth to JFl.  What Clinton administration are you thinking of?  Quite a bold statement with nary an elected northern Democrat in 48 years, and this one has a ceiling of 52% popular vote.  Maybe you're comfortable with the idea of losing?
i think it is absolutely awesome that another part of john Edwards' platform-this time its his economic stimulus package- has been grasped by his colleagues in both parties and they are now stumping different variations of what he's been saying for 14 months now....keith olberman actually gave him about 12 seconds of positive air time tonite and ms maddow did a fine job of giving edwards the props he deserves for this one....my friends the tide is turning!!! little by little we are beginning to whittle away at the clinton/obama lead...he's on letterman tonite then its back to south carolina; come on south carolina do yourselves a favor and vote with your brain and not with your media driven images of what they want you to think the next president should be or look like- edwards is the only candidate out there who is really talking the talk and also walking the walk-  go edwards...this campaign is like the little train that could...i think i can, i think i can !!
I think John Edwards exemplifies the kind of person we need to lead us. I refuse to vote for Hilary Clinton purely because she is a woman; just because she is married to a former president does NOT qualify her for the job. Besides bjoth Clinton and Obama behaved with a bit of immaturity. Barak Obama is indeed eloquent but that is not enough to lead this country.
Edwards so far is the only candidate to address povery in this country. He is out of the mainstream because he is a white male- more focus should be placed on the individual NOT the gender or the race.
hillary keeps talking about being ready on day 1,  well, i'll tell you what, edwards would come out on day 1 like a junkyard dog going after a day old pork chop and he wouldn't stop until he got some senceable answers and dialogue while moving forward on his first issue


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